Re: [gmx-users] g_sas query

2011-05-07 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey Anirban,

I would consider the ions part of the solvent. But the procedure is right.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On May 7, 2011 7:35 AM, Anirban Ghosh reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi ALL,

I want to calculate the SASA of a protein embedded in a bilayer along with
water and ions. So while using g_sas I understand that I need to supply all
non-solvent atoms as calculation group and Protein as the output group. So I
need to make a group with Protein+Lipid+Ions as the calculation group.
Right?
Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Anirban

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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas query

2011-05-07 Thread Anirban Ghosh
Hello Tsjerk,

Thanks for the reply.
But if I consider the ions also in the calculation group, then it is not
wrong. Right?

Thanks,

Anirban

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Anirban,

 I would consider the ions part of the solvent. But the procedure is right.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On May 7, 2011 7:35 AM, Anirban Ghosh reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi ALL,

 I want to calculate the SASA of a protein embedded in a bilayer along with
 water and ions. So while using g_sas I understand that I need to supply all
 non-solvent atoms as calculation group and Protein as the output group. So I
 need to make a group with Protein+Lipid+Ions as the calculation group.
 Right?
 Thanks a lot in advance.

 Regards,

 Anirban

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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas query

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/05/2011 4:36 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Hello Tsjerk,

Thanks for the reply.
But if I consider the ions also in the calculation group, then it is 
not wrong. Right?


Only you know where your ions are, and whether their contribution to 
surface area means anything. Make the hybrid groups accordingly.


Mark


Thanks,

Anirban

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mailto:tsje...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey Anirban,

I would consider the ions part of the solvent. But the procedure
is right.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On May 7, 2011 7:35 AM, Anirban Ghosh
reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com
mailto:reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi ALL,

I want to calculate the SASA of a protein embedded in a bilayer
along with water and ions. So while using g_sas I understand that
I need to supply all non-solvent atoms as calculation group and
Protein as the output group. So I need to make a group with
Protein+Lipid+Ions as the calculation group. Right?
Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Anirban

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[gmx-users] liquid/liquid

2011-05-07 Thread Maria Hamilton
Hi all

I want to simulate a liquid/liquid interface. After construction one of them
in one side of the box and the other in the another side, I want to all some
other molecules randomly in one of them. What should I do?

Would you please help me?

Thanks alot

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[gmx-users] Fwd: liquid/liquid

2011-05-07 Thread Maria Hamilton
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Hi all

I want to simulate a liquid/liquid interface. After construction one of them
in one side of the box and the other in the another side, I want to all some
other molecules randomly in one of them. What should I do?

You may gauss the third molecule should be distribute randomly in second
liquid.

Would you please help me?

Thanks alot

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[gmx-users] On posre.itp

2011-05-07 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Hi everyone!
 
I was able to generate a pdb file in which the hydrogens for the molecule are 
already included (that way I avoided using the hdb file for the pdb2gmx). 
However, when I checked the posre.itp, the some of the restraints were applied 
to the hydrogens. Is this correct because I am not sure since I what I know is 
that the restraints should be applied to heavy atoms.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas query

2011-05-07 Thread Anirban Ghosh
Hello Tsjerk  Mark,

Thanks for the reply.
Actually more important than the ions is the lipid bilayer of my system.
Actually my protein is a GPCR embedded in a lipid bilayer. So when I want to
calculate the SASA of my protein, so should I use a group
(Protein+Lipid+Ions) as the calculation group and Protein as the output
group?

Thanks again,

Anirban

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 7/05/2011 4:36 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:

 Hello Tsjerk,

  Thanks for the reply.
 But if I consider the ions also in the calculation group, then it is not
 wrong. Right?


 Only you know where your ions are, and whether their contribution to
 surface area means anything. Make the hybrid groups accordingly.

 Mark


  Thanks,

  Anirban

 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Anirban,

 I would consider the ions part of the solvent. But the procedure is right.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

  On May 7, 2011 7:35 AM, Anirban Ghosh reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi ALL,

  I want to calculate the SASA of a protein embedded in a bilayer along
 with water and ions. So while using g_sas I understand that I need to supply
 all non-solvent atoms as calculation group and Protein as the output group.
 So I need to make a group with Protein+Lipid+Ions as the calculation group.
 Right?
 Thanks a lot in advance.

  Regards,

  Anirban

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Re: [gmx-users] liquid/liquid

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/05/2011 6:03 PM, Maria Hamilton wrote:

Hi all

I want to simulate a liquid/liquid interface. After construction one 
of them in one side of the box and the other in the another side, I 
want to all some other molecules randomly in one of them. What should 
I do?


There's a tutorial about such biphasic systems, which I hope you 
searched for first, before emailing :-) Probably you can adapt that by 
doing your insertion at a suitable point.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas query

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/05/2011 7:04 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Hello Tsjerk  Mark,

Thanks for the reply.
Actually more important than the ions is the lipid bilayer of my 
system. Actually my protein is a GPCR embedded in a lipid bilayer. So 
when I want to calculate the SASA of my protein, so should I use a 
group (Protein+Lipid+Ions) as the calculation group and Protein as the 
output group?


We've answered the first part of this already.

You should read g_sas -h for clues about the groups. Only you know 
whether Protein-only output is sensible for your purpose.


Mark


Thanks again,

Anirban

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 7/05/2011 4:36 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Hello Tsjerk,

Thanks for the reply.
But if I consider the ions also in the calculation group, then it
is not wrong. Right?


Only you know where your ions are, and whether their contribution
to surface area means anything. Make the hybrid groups accordingly.

Mark



Thanks,

Anirban

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar
tsje...@gmail.com mailto:tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Anirban,

I would consider the ions part of the solvent. But the
procedure is right.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On May 7, 2011 7:35 AM, Anirban Ghosh
reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com
mailto:reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi ALL,

I want to calculate the SASA of a protein embedded in a
bilayer along with water and ions. So while using g_sas I
understand that I need to supply all non-solvent atoms as
calculation group and Protein as the output group. So I need
to make a group with Protein+Lipid+Ions as the calculation
group. Right?
Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Anirban

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Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/05/2011 7:01 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Hi everyone!
I was able to generate a pdb file in which the hydrogens for the 
molecule are already included (that way I avoided using the hdb file 
for the pdb2gmx). However, when I checked the posre.itp, the some of 
the restraints were applied to the hydrogens. Is this correct because 
I am not sure since I what I know is that the restraints should be 
applied to heavy atoms.




Maybe your atom names are confusing pdb2gmx. Maybe you're comparing 
apples and oranges with the indices in the coordinate file and the 
indices in the posres.itp (which are relative to the [atoms], IIRC).
Are the positional restraints needed only for the equalibration step 
but not for the production runs in normal MD simulations. Thanks.




Up to you. Do you want to sample under unphysical restraints or not?

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp

2011-05-07 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Thanks for the response. I will be doing a simple MD without the positional 
restraints. How do I go about reviewing the code for posres? What I did was to 
add new ff parameters for a new residue I introduced. May I please know what 
file in the program determines the posres so that I can revew them. Thanks.
 
 

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From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 5:10 PM


On 7/05/2011 7:01 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote: 





Hi everyone!
 
I was able to generate a pdb file in which the hydrogens for the molecule are 
already included (that way I avoided using the hdb file for the pdb2gmx). 
However, when I checked the posre.itp, the some of the restraints were applied 
to the hydrogens. Is this correct because I am not sure since I what I know is 
that the restraints should be applied to heavy atoms.
Maybe your atom names are confusing pdb2gmx. Maybe you're comparing apples and 
oranges with the indices in the coordinate file and the indices in the 
posres.itp (which are relative to the [atoms], IIRC).
  





Are the positional restraints needed only for the equalibration step but not 
for the production runs in normal MD simulations. Thanks. 
Up to you. Do you want to sample under unphysical restraints or not?

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp

2011-05-07 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
I think I've got the answer. It is on the input pdb file. The heavy atoms need 
to be labeled properly. thanks

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Mr Bernard Ramos bgrquan...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Mr Bernard Ramos bgrquan...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 5:16 PM







Thanks for the response. I will be doing a simple MD without the positional 
restraints. How do I go about reviewing the code for posres? What I did was to 
add new ff parameters for a new residue I introduced. May I please know what 
file in the program determines the posres so that I can revew them. Thanks.
 
 

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 5:10 PM


On 7/05/2011 7:01 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote: 





Hi everyone!
 
I was able to generate a pdb file in which the hydrogens for the molecule are 
already included (that way I avoided using the hdb file for the pdb2gmx). 
However, when I checked the posre.itp, the some of the restraints were applied 
to the hydrogens. Is this correct because I am not sure since I what I know is 
that the restraints should be applied to heavy atoms.
Maybe your atom names are confusing pdb2gmx. Maybe you're comparing apples and 
oranges with the indices in the coordinate file and the indices in the 
posres.itp (which are relative to the [atoms], IIRC).
  





Are the positional restraints needed only for the equalibration step but not 
for the production runs in normal MD simulations. Thanks. 
Up to you. Do you want to sample under unphysical restraints or not?

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/05/2011 7:16 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
Thanks for the response. I will be doing a simple MD 
without the positional restraints. How do I go about reviewing the 
code for posres? What I did was to add new ff parameters for a new 
residue I introduced. May I please know what file in the 
program determines the posres so that I can revew them. Thanks.




Please give full descriptions the first time. I posted a noob question 
on the AMBER mailing list a few months back, and would never have gotten 
the problem solved except that I included some details that I thought 
were irrelevant, and someone spotted my problem. We've all got better 
things to do than play question-and-answer. You might have invented some 
atom names that pdb2gmx doesn't know how to cope with - but you haven't 
said whether your apparently erronously generated position restraints 
are specific to your new residue or not. Unfortunately you haven't 
shared your atom names after I suggested the atom names were probably 
the problem, and I'm not going to make guesses. There's various 
databases in $GMXLIB/share/top for various force fields, but I don't 
know your GROMACS version either...


I don't think looking at the code will lead to a solution.

Mark


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From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] On posre.itp
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 5:10 PM

On 7/05/2011 7:01 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Hi everyone!
I was able to generate a pdb file in which the hydrogens for the
molecule are already included (that way I avoided using the hdb
file for the pdb2gmx). However, when I checked the posre.itp, the
some of the restraints were applied to the hydrogens. Is this
correct because I am not sure since I what I know is that the
restraints should be applied to heavy atoms.



Maybe your atom names are confusing pdb2gmx. Maybe you're
comparing apples and oranges with the indices in the coordinate
file and the indices in the posres.itp (which are relative to the
[atoms], IIRC).

Are the positional restraints needed only for the equalibration
step but not for the production runs in normal MD simulations.
Thanks.



Up to you. Do you want to sample under unphysical restraints or not?

Mark

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[gmx-users] How to recenter solvent around solute

2011-05-07 Thread Dimitar Pachov
Hello,

I have performed simulations of protein+ligands (solute) in truncated
octahedral unit cell of waters (solvent). I would like to retain the shape
of unit cell and have the solute centered in such a way as to be completely
surrounded by solvent.  At this point, I cannot achieve this although I have
exhausted my knowledge about using the trjconv options. My question is:

1. How can one recenter solvent around solute and at the same time keep the
original unit shape?

I used the following command to get this picture:

trjconv -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -n index-all.ndx -o traj/run-test.xtc -pbc mol
-center -ur compact

where for centering the solute was used and the whole system was saved to
the output trajectory.

Thanks,
Dimitar
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Re: [gmx-users] How to recenter solvent around solute

2011-05-07 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Dimitar Pachov wrote:

Hello,

I have performed simulations of protein+ligands (solute) in truncated 
octahedral unit cell of waters (solvent). I would like to retain the 
shape of unit cell and have the solute centered in such a way as to be 
completely surrounded by solvent.  At this point, I cannot achieve this 
although I have exhausted my knowledge about using the trjconv options. 
My question is:


1. How can one recenter solvent around solute and at the same time keep 
the original unit shape?
 
I used the following command to get this picture:


trjconv -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -n index-all.ndx -o traj/run-test.xtc -pbc 
mol -center -ur compact




Use -ur tric instead of -ur compact.

-Justin

where for centering the solute was used and the whole system was saved 
to the output trajectory. 


Thanks,
Dimitar





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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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Re: [gmx-users] How to recenter solvent around solute

2011-05-07 Thread Dimitar Pachov
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Dimitar Pachov wrote:

 Hello,

 I have performed simulations of protein+ligands (solute) in truncated
 octahedral unit cell of waters (solvent). I would like to retain the shape
 of unit cell and have the solute centered in such a way as to be completely
 surrounded by solvent.  At this point, I cannot achieve this although I have
 exhausted my knowledge about using the trjconv options. My question is:

 1. How can one recenter solvent around solute and at the same time keep
 the original unit shape?
  I used the following command to get this picture:

 trjconv -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -n index-all.ndx -o traj/run-test.xtc -pbc
 mol -center -ur compact


 Use -ur tric instead of -ur compact.



This does not work. Neither is the solute always surrounded by solvent for
every frame (it goes out of the box) nor is the original unit cell
(truncated octahedron) preserved.

I don't understand how one can achieve this, and if there is a way to do it,
why it has not been clearly explained elsewhere.

Thanks,
Dimitar





 -Justin


  where for centering the solute was used and the whole system was saved to
 the output trajectory.
 Thanks,
 Dimitar




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Re: [gmx-users] How to recenter solvent around solute

2011-05-07 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Dimitar Pachov wrote:



On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Dimitar Pachov wrote:

Hello,

I have performed simulations of protein+ligands (solute) in
truncated octahedral unit cell of waters (solvent). I would like
to retain the shape of unit cell and have the solute centered in
such a way as to be completely surrounded by solvent.  At this
point, I cannot achieve this although I have exhausted my
knowledge about using the trjconv options. My question is:

1. How can one recenter solvent around solute and at the same
time keep the original unit shape?
 I used the following command to get this picture:

trjconv -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -n index-all.ndx -o
traj/run-test.xtc -pbc mol -center -ur compact


Use -ur tric instead of -ur compact.



This does not work. Neither is the solute always surrounded by solvent 
for every frame (it goes out of the box) nor is the original unit cell 
(truncated octahedron) preserved. 



Please clarify - do you wish to maintain the original triclinic representation 
(as -ur tric does) or do you wish to see the octahedral representation (as -pbc 
mol -ur compact gives)?  My answer was based on your request to keep the 
original unit shape.


I don't understand how one can achieve this, and if there is a way to do 
it, why it has not been clearly explained elsewhere.




For complicated systems (or sometimes even for simple ones), it is quite common 
that multiple iterations of trjconv are necessary.  A suggested workflow is 
indeed documented:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions#Suggested_trjconv_workflow

The documentation must remain somewhat generic, as there are a number of 
specialty systems that can be considered.


-Justin

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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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