Re: [gmx-users] regarding nacl simulation in water using tabulated potentials

2011-05-09 Thread sreelakshmi ramesh
i had followed the instructions in themnaual for ninbonded interactions adn
had created two tables one for nacl adn other table for water ion
interations...i wanted some information on how to use these tables for
starting thee simulation

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 9/05/2011 3:46 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:

 dear gmx users,
i have to simulate nacl in water...the system is
 acubic box with just one na adn one cl ion in tip3p water.i wanted to use a
  buckingham potential  for na adn cl interaction and lennard jones for water
 -ion intercation.i really dont have any idea on how to do this.any help will
 be of great use  for me...


 Can't be done simply. You'd have to use non-bonded interaction tables for
 the Na-Cl interaction with properly constructed energy groups. Search the
 manual and webpage for details.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding nacl simulation in water using tabulated potentials

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 9/05/2011 4:01 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:
i had followed the instructions in themnaual for ninbonded 
interactions adn had created two tables one for nacl adn other table 
for water ion interations...


That's not I really don't  have any idea on how to do this. Please ask 
the question you want answered, or you're wasting everyone's time.


i wanted some information on how to use these tables for starting thee 
simulation


Sorry, that's too general. You might want help with a command line, or 
setting up the .mdp, or something else. Please read 6.7 of the manual, 
try things, and ask a focused question.


Mark

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 9/05/2011 3:46 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:

dear gmx users,
   i have to simulate nacl in water...the
system is acubic box with just one na adn one cl ion in tip3p
water.i wanted to use a  buckingham potential  for na adn cl
interaction and lennard jones for water -ion intercation.i
really dont have any idea on how to do this.any help will be
of great use  for me...


Can't be done simply. You'd have to use non-bonded interaction
tables for the Na-Cl interaction with properly constructed energy
groups. Search the manual and webpage for details.

Mark
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[gmx-users] freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms

2011-05-09 Thread toby10222224
Hi:

I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O). Meanwhile the 
carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to say an oxygen atom is 
attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a carbonyl group. All the carbon 
atoms are supposed to be fixed, while carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are 
supposed to have bond interactions. I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the 
CNT, but how to deal with the carbonly atoms?

Any suggestions are appreciated!
Thank you in advance!

2011-05-09 



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Re: [gmx-users] sphere around a protein

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



shivangi nangia wrote:

Hi Justin,

I used 15 nm cubic box and 6 nm shell.
I again tried to insert only 1 histidine molecule in the sphere. I get 
the same error


Fatal error:
One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off length 
or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off.





Please provide the exact command that gives the error.  I cannot reproduce this 
using a shell value less than half a box vector.  You may also want to try 
starting from a clean directory - get rid of old files and intermediates so 
you're sure you're using the right files.


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Re: [gmx-users] problem while running grompp command

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rashi parihar wrote:

Hi all.
I am doing dynamics studies of protein-ligand dynamics.When I am running 
grompp command error is coming atomtype SDMSO NOT FOUND . I checked in 
drg.itp file

[ atoms ]
; nr type resnr resid atom cgnr charge mass
1 OM 1 LIG OXT 1 -0.758 15.9994
2 C 1 LIG C 1 0.362 12.0110
3 OM 1 LIG O 1 -0.758 15.9994
4 CH1 1 LIG CA 1 0.154 13.0190
5 NL 1 LIG N 2 0.590 14.0067
6 H 1 LIG H3 2 0.001 1.0080
7 H 1 LIG H4 2 0.002 1.0080
8 H 1 LIG H1 2 0.002 1.0080
9 CH2 1 LIG CB 2 0.109 14.0270
10 CH2 1 LIG CG 2 0.109 14.0270
11 SDMSO 1 LIG SD 2 0.974 32.0600
now in 11th row SDMSO IS PRESENT.How can I solve this problem?plz help me!!!



The problem is that your topology file is calling SDMSO, which does not exist. 
 All Gromos force fields use SDmso - capitalization matters.  Check the .atp 
file for your chosen force field to be sure of the requirements of the force field.


It looks to me like this is a PRODRG output.  Please see the paper linked from 
http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/PRODRG#Tips as to why you 
should likely not use this topology in its current state for anything.


-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



toby1024 wrote:

Hi:
 
I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O). 
Meanwhile the carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to say 
an oxygen atom is attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a 
carbonyl group. All the carbon atoms are supposed to be fixed, while 
carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are supposed to have bond interactions. 
I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the CNT, but how to deal with the 
carbonly atoms?
 


By fixed, do you mean their positions should be invariant (i.e. freeze groups) 
or that their bond lengths should be constrained?  If the former, then you 
should be able to make use of index groups to define an appropriate freezegrp in 
the .mdp file.  If the latter, use constraints = none in the .mdp file, and 
write a [constraints] directive for the bonds you do wish to be constrained.


-Justin


Any suggestions are appreciated!
Thank you in advance!
 
2011-05-09


toby1024



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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 85, Issue 65

2011-05-09 Thread Maria Hamilton
Hi Prof. Mark Abraham

I recived a tutorial from you that in the tutorial 3th molecule was one and
there is not some of the 3th molecules that distributed randomly.

I will be very thankful if you introduce to me a tutorial about my work.

Thanks alot

Maria

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 On 9/05/2011 3:40 PM, Maria Hamilton wrote:
  Hi Dallas

 Please do not respond to whole digests - it confuses the archive. Cut
 out the relevant part and reply to it. Also, please choose a meaningful
 subject line.

  You said that
  Easiest way is probably set up the appropriate sized box for molecule
  2, randomly distributed molecule 3 in appropriate number through it
  (genbox), then solvate that box with molecule 2, then combine that box
  with solvated box containing molecule 1.
 
  How can I combine the two different box?Do you know any tutorial for
 this?

 Yes, the one on biphasic systems that I suggested two days ago that
 you search for :-)

 Mark


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 dear gmx users,
i have to simulate nacl in water...the system is
 acubic box with just one na adn one cl ion in tip3p water.i wanted to use a
 buckingham potential  for na adn cl interaction and lennard jones for water
 -ion intercation.i really dont have any idea on how to do this.any help
 will
 be of great use  for me...

 thanks and regards,
 shree
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 On 9/05/2011 9:10 AM, Ryan S Davis (rsdavis1) wrote:
  I am not sure if I replied to this thread correctly, but anyway.

 Please use a relevant subject line.

  I tried the things you guys suggested, but I still cant get it to work.
  You were right $HOME does have a slash in front but I am not actually
 using that variable, just used it in the mailing list for convience, sorry.

 Copy and paste of actual terminal sessions is always preferable.
 Computers are literal, and troubleshooting things filtered through
 people's heads usually wastes time.

  I reinstalled the libraries, just to make

Re: [gmx-users] liquid/liquid

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Maria Hamilton wrote:

Hi Prof. Mark Abraham

I recived a tutorial from you that in the tutorial 3th molecule was one 
and there is not some of the 3th molecules that distributed randomly.


I will be very thankful if you introduce to me a tutorial about my work.


Tutorials are not written to tailor to every possible nuance of a user's 
desires.  They exist to provide you with a basic principle that can be applied 
to other systems.  The workflow is the same - create your heterogeneous layer 
using the information provided here:


http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-May/061164.html

and here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Mixed_Solvents

Then use the basic steps in the biphasic system tutorial to combine whatever 
layers you like in whatever manner you choose.


-Justin



Thanks alot

Maria


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Re: [gmx-users] ambar to opls force field

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

Hello Justin,

In the J. Chem. Phys. paper author have run the simulation 6.5 ns. So

I run the simulation 6.5 ns for collecting data and I have total 256 water
molecules.


I also asked how you calculated the dielectric constant.

When trying to replicate others' work, it is often most beneficial and less 
time-consuming to simply contact the corresponding author of the paper.  They 
can talk with you directly about methodological details.


-Justin


NIlesh

On Sun, May 8, 2011 11:58 pm, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Nilesh Dhumal wrote:


Hello Justin,


Here I have done some analysis.  The original value reported in J.Chem.
 Phys. 124, 024503 2006, paper are
Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2
Kangle = 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2.



Below are the results for the dielectric constant of water.I made the
.itp
file  pasted below the table. Bond length is nm.

bond length  Kbond angleKangledielectric constant 0.1012
443153.3808113.24  317.5656   ~1.9 : orginal value


0.1012   221576.6904113.24  317.5656   ~80   : 1/2 (Kbond)


0.1012   443153.3808113.24  158.7828   ~1.58 : 1/2 (kangle)


0.1012  221576.6904113.24  317.5656   ~1.9   : 1/2
(Kbond)(Kangle)



How were these dielectric constants calculated?  Did you collect
sufficient data?  It seems to me that there is no definitive dependence on
any of these parameters, and you have one outlying point that is
coincidentally close to what you want.  A consistently wrong dielectric
would suggest that either you're not calculating it right or you don't
have sufficiently converged data.

Based on a quick look through the paper, it seems to me that your
original premise of converting between force fields is not related to the
task at hand. Water models are relatively force field-agnostic, especially
when trivial functional forms, such as harmonic potentials, are applied.
There is nothing
fancy here.

Given the following:



[ bondtypes ]
; ij  func   b0  kb
OWHW  10.1012   443153.3808   ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503
[ angletypes ]
;  ijk  func   th0   cth
HW OW HW  1   113.24  158.7828 ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503



You are indeed applying simple harmonic potentials (see the manual to
confirm the form), which again indicates to me that you should not be
playing with the force constants in the model described in the paper.  Use
Ka and Kb as listed.
Halving these quantities will result in a harmonic potential, e.g. for
bonds of (1/4)Kb(b-b0)^2 rather then the proper coefficient of 1/2.


-Justin


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[gmx-users] git server maintenance downtime

2011-05-09 Thread Rossen Apostolov

Hi,

The git server may be temporarily offline today for maintenance.

Cheers,
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Re: [gmx-users] freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 9/05/2011 5:23 PM, toby1024 wrote:

Hi:
I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O). 
Meanwhile the carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to 
say an oxygen atom is attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a 
carbonyl group. All the carbon atoms are supposed to be fixed, while 
carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are supposed to have bond 
interactions. I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the CNT, but how 
to deal with the carbonly atoms?


Well if you're prepared to model the CNT frozen, why not freeze the 
oxygen bound to it? Anything else sounds like a recipe for more trouble.


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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 85, Issue 67

2011-05-09 Thread toby10222224
I mean all the positions of the carbon atoms are invariant during mdrun. In the 
.gro file, carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are defined as group 'Carbonyl' and 
the rest every single carbon atom is defined as 'CNT'. For the use of 'freeze 
groups', the group 'CNT' should be freezed. But for group 'Carbonyl', as oxygen 
atom is allowed to move, it is not appropriate to freeze group 'Carbonyl'. 
I wonder whether the same atom can be included in two or more groups. If it can 
be, I can ignore the group name defined in the .gro file and redefine groups by 
using command 'make_ndx'. Then I am able to make use of index groups to define 
an appropriate freezegrp in the .mdp file. All the carbon atoms of the CNT 
(inclduing carbonyl carbon atoms) are supposed to be defined as 'CNT', and 
carbonyl carbon atoms and oxygen oxygens are 'Carbonyl'. Group 'CNT' is the 
freeze group. Is it feasible for this idea?
Thank you!

2011-05-09 



toby1024 



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toby1024 wrote:
 Hi:
  
 I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O). 
 Meanwhile the carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to say 
 an oxygen atom is attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a 
 carbonyl group. All the carbon atoms are supposed to be fixed, while 
 carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are supposed to have bond interactions. 
 I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the CNT, but how to deal with the 
 carbonly atoms?
  
By fixed, do you mean their positions should be invariant (i.e. freeze 
groups) 
or that their bond lengths should be constrained?  If the former, then you 
should be able to make use of index groups to define an appropriate freezegrp 
in 
the .mdp file.  If the latter, use constraints = none in the .mdp file, and 
write a [constraints] directive for the bonds you do wish to be constrained.
-Justin
 Any suggestions are appreciated!
 Thank you in advance!
  
 2011-05-09
 
 toby1024
 
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[gmx-users] Re: freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms

2011-05-09 Thread toby10222224
I intend to apply an electric filed on the whole system and the possitive 
oxygen will be certainly affected.


2011-05-09 



toby1024 



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Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 22:38:48 +1000
From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms
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On 9/05/2011 5:23 PM, toby1024 wrote:
 Hi:
 I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O). 
 Meanwhile the carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to 
 say an oxygen atom is attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a 
 carbonyl group. All the carbon atoms are supposed to be fixed, while 
 carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are supposed to have bond 
 interactions. I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the CNT, but how 
 to deal with the carbonly atoms?
Well if you're prepared to model the CNT frozen, why not freeze the 
oxygen bound to it? Anything else sounds like a recipe for more trouble.
Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] frozen CNT with carbonyls

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham
On 9/05/2011 10:43 PM, toby1024 wrote:

Please use a useful subject line when replying to a digest.

 I mean all the positions of the carbon atoms are invariant during
 mdrun. In the .gro file, carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are defined
 as group 'Carbonyl' and the rest every single carbon atom is defined
 as 'CNT'.

A .gro file doesn't have groups.

 For the use of 'freeze groups', the group 'CNT' should be freezed. But
 for group 'Carbonyl', as oxygen atom is allowed to move, it is not
 appropriate to freeze group 'Carbonyl'.

Sure, I think you want a freeze group of all the nanotube carbons, and
all the carbonyl oxygens. make_ndx will allow you make such a union.

 I wonder whether the same atom can be included in two or more groups.
 If it can be, I can ignore the group name defined in the .gro file and
 redefine groups by using command 'make_ndx'. Then I am able to make
 use of index

Groups aren't defined in the coordinate file. If you use a GROMACS
utility that can accept an index file as input, and do not provide one,
then GROMACS generates some standard ones from the coordinate file. In
the case of make_ndx, these are then written out when you quit.

 groups to define an appropriate freezegrp in the .mdp file. All the
 carbon atoms of the CNT (inclduing carbonyl carbon atoms) are supposed
 to be defined as 'CNT', and carbonyl carbon atoms and oxygen oxygens
 are 'Carbonyl'. Group 'CNT' is the freeze group. Is it feasible for
 this idea?

You're in charge... I don't know what external entity is dictating what
you are supposed to do :-)

Mark

 Thank you!
 2011-05-09
 
 toby1024
 
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 Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 06:58:04 -0400
 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] freeze the carbonyl carbon atoms
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 toby1024 wrote:
  Hi:
 
  I have a carbon nanotube (CNT) and several carbonly groups (C=O).
  Meanwhile the carbonly carbon atoms are part of the CNT. That is to say
  an oxygen atom is attached to one carbon atom of the CNT to form a
  carbonyl group. All the carbon atoms are supposed to be fixed, while
  carbonyl carbon and oxygen atoms are supposed to have bond
 interactions.
  I can freeze the rest carbon atoms of the CNT, but how to deal with the
  carbonly atoms?
 
 By fixed, do you mean their positions should be invariant (i.e.
 freeze groups)
 or that their bond lengths should be constrained? If the former, then you
 should be able to make use of index groups to define an appropriate
 freezegrp in
 the .mdp file. If the latter, use constraints = none in the .mdp
 file, and
 write a [constraints] directive for the bonds you do wish to be
 constrained.
 -Justin
  Any suggestions are appreciated!
  Thank you in advance!
 
  2011-05-09
  
  toby1024
 
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Re: [gmx-users] simulation of a non complete structure

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Sajad Ahrari wrote:

dear users
is it rational to do a simulation on a structure witch is not complete? 
i mean pdb structure doesn't cover whole of the protein but it's active 
core domain.
may be i should be asking this question somewhere else, but i thought 
some of you may have concerned with such case and in fact i didn't 
really know where to ask it!


It depends on your aims.  If you can answer the question of interest while still 
neglecting, i.e. missing termini, and you can prove that the missing residues do 
not play any functional role in the dynamics of the active domain, then maybe 
you can simulate it.  But that is a lot of assumptions.  It's certainly been 
done, but it may require lots of justification and prior proof that no ill 
effects will exist.


Note that this only applies to missing termini.  Anything missing within the 
sequence will cause pdb2gmx to fail, and even if you force it without building a 
suitable model, mdrun will fail due to a physically unrealistic simulation.


-Justin


thanks in advance!
sajad



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[gmx-users] total force acting on group

2011-05-09 Thread rasool . fakhimi

Hi dear user's
I want to calculate total force acting on one certain atom or group.
gromacs dose not have tools for force analysis, and FDA only give pair
forces between one group of atoms
how can i do this?

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Re: [gmx-users] ambar to opls force field

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

I used g_dipoles to calculate dielectric constant.


g_dipoles -f water.trr -s water.tpr -eps

Group 0 (  System) has   768 elements
Group 1 ( Protein) has   768 elements
Group 2 (   Protein-H) has   256 elements
Group 3 ( C-alpha) has 0 elements
Group 4 (Backbone) has 0 elements
Group 5 (   MainChain) has 0 elements
Group 6 (MainChain+Cb) has 0 elements
Group 7 ( MainChain+H) has 0 elements
Group 8 (   SideChain) has   768 elements
Group 9 ( SideChain-H) has   256 elements
Select a group: 0

I selected 0.



The manual and the archive are not clear on the proper way to calculate a 
dielectric constant, but it seems your use of g_dipoles neglects several terms 
that may affect your outcome.  I would suggest backing up and applying your 
methodology to a well-defined system like rigid SPC to see if you can recover 
the proper dielectric constant for that system (65, I believe).  That will tell 
you if your method for calculating the dielectric is correct.  If it is, and you 
still can't reproduce the results for the flexible model, my advice is still to 
contact the authors of the cited paper for advice.


-Justin



Nilesh

On Mon, May 9, 2011 8:28 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Nilesh Dhumal wrote:


Hello Justin,


In the J. Chem. Phys. paper author have run the simulation 6.5 ns. So


I run the simulation 6.5 ns for collecting data and I have total 256
water molecules.

I also asked how you calculated the dielectric constant.


When trying to replicate others' work, it is often most beneficial and
less time-consuming to simply contact the corresponding author of the
paper.  They can talk with you directly about methodological details.

-Justin



NIlesh


On Sun, May 8, 2011 11:58 pm, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



Nilesh Dhumal wrote:



Hello Justin,



Here I have done some analysis.  The original value reported in
J.Chem.
Phys. 124, 024503 2006, paper are
Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2
Kangle = 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2.




Below are the results for the dielectric constant of water.I made
the .itp
file  pasted below the table. Bond length is nm.

bond length  Kbond angleKangledielectric constant
0.1012
443153.3808113.24  317.5656   ~1.9 : orginal value



0.1012   221576.6904113.24  317.5656   ~80   : 1/2
(Kbond)



0.1012   443153.3808113.24  158.7828   ~1.58 : 1/2
(kangle)



0.1012  221576.6904113.24  317.5656   ~1.9   : 1/2
(Kbond)(Kangle)




How were these dielectric constants calculated?  Did you collect
sufficient data?  It seems to me that there is no definitive
dependence on any of these parameters, and you have one outlying point
that is coincidentally close to what you want.  A consistently wrong
dielectric would suggest that either you're not calculating it right
or you don't have sufficiently converged data.

Based on a quick look through the paper, it seems to me that your
original premise of converting between force fields is not related to
the task at hand. Water models are relatively force field-agnostic,
especially when trivial functional forms, such as harmonic potentials,
are applied. There is nothing
fancy here.

Given the following:




[ bondtypes ]
; ij  func   b0  kb
OWHW  10.1012   443153.3808   ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503
[ angletypes ]
;  ijk  func   th0   cth
HW OW HW  1   113.24  158.7828 ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503




You are indeed applying simple harmonic potentials (see the manual to
 confirm the form), which again indicates to me that you should not
be playing with the force constants in the model described in the
paper.  Use Ka and Kb as listed.
Halving these quantities will result in a harmonic potential, e.g. for
 bonds of (1/4)Kb(b-b0)^2 rather then the proper coefficient of 1/2.


-Justin



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[gmx-users] git server maintenance finished

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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Compiling issue : Compiling gromacs 4.5.4 with intel compiler suite 12.0

2011-05-09 Thread Kalavera
Hi,

I recompiled gromacs 4.5.4 and fftw3.2.2 with the newest version off the
intel compiler suit 12.0.2, still leading to segmentation faults. As
suggested, I tried lots of combinations of different forcefields, water
types and *.pdb's. Non of them was successful, so my segmentation fault
is reproducible. Even the delivered tutorial/test cases stopped with a
segmentation fault.
As a last step, I will try to compile gromacs with CMake. If there are
any alternatives you would suggest me to conduct, don't hesitated to let
me know.

Cheers,
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[gmx-users] Fatal error: Atomtype CB not found

2011-05-09 Thread ITHAYARAJA
Dear Sir

Greetings!

I am following every gromacs applications based on your manuals. I now get
stuck in grompp -energy minimization step during generation of .tpr file for
my ligand and protein. the error which i found is the following,


Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'
Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.5#

WARNING 1 [file em.mdp, line unknown]:
  Unknown or double left-hand 'coulomtype' in parameter file


checking input for internal consistency...
processing topology...
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
ffG43a1.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1nb.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1bon.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ff_dum.itp
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/kernel/toppush.c, line: 947

Fatal error:
Atomtype CB not found
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Sir, I couldn't understand what did it refers to? So I kindly request you
spare your little time from your busy schedule to solve this problem.

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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Atomtype CB not found

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ITHAYARAJA wrote:

Dear Sir

Greetings!

I am following every gromacs applications based on your manuals. I now 
get stuck in grompp -energy minimization step during generation of .tpr 
file for my ligand and protein. the error which i found is the following,



Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'
Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.5#

WARNING 1 [file em.mdp, line unknown]:
  Unknown or double left-hand 'coulomtype' in parameter file


checking input for internal consistency...
processing topology...
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
ffG43a1.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1nb.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1bon.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ff_dum.itp
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/kernel/toppush.c, line: 947

Fatal error:
Atomtype CB not found
---

Sir, I couldn't understand what did it refers to? So I kindly request 
you spare your little time from your busy schedule to solve this problem.




You're mixing and matching force fields.  Atom type CB does not exist in 
Gromos96 43A1, it comes from the deprecated ffgmx force field.


-Justin


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[gmx-users] tip4p.itp

2011-05-09 Thread Vitaly Chaban
Does anybody know the reference for TIP4P water, which is supplied
in tip4p.itp in the /share folder, please?

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Re: [gmx-users] tip4p.itp

2011-05-09 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-05-09 20.19, Vitaly Chaban wrote:

Does anybody know the reference for TIP4P water, which is supplied
in tip4p.itp in the /share folder, please?

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Do you think it is not the regular one?
@Article{ Jorgensen83,
  author =   W. L. Jorgensen and J. Chandrasekhar and
  J. D. Madura and R. W. Impey and M. L. Klein,
  title =Comparison of simple potential functions for
  simulating liquid water,
  journal =  J. Chem. Phys.,
  year = 1983,
  volume =   79,
  pages =926--935
}


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Re: [gmx-users] tip4p.itp

2011-05-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Vitaly Chaban wrote:
Does anybody know the reference for TIP4P water, which is supplied 
in tip4p.itp in the /share folder, please?


Reference 96 in the manual.

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[gmx-users] Re: git server maintenance finished

2011-05-09 Thread Rossen Apostolov
The DNS seems to be finished updating now. Let me know if something 
doesn't work as expected with the new server.


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[gmx-users] Re: Re: tip4p.itp

2011-05-09 Thread Vitaly Chaban
 On 2011-05-09 20.19, Vitaly Chaban wrote:
  Does anybody know the reference for TIP4P water, which is supplied
  in tip4p.itp in the /share folder, please?
 
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 Do you think it is not the regular one?
 @Article{ Jorgensen83,
   author =       W. L. Jorgensen and J. Chandrasekhar and
                   J. D. Madura and R. W. Impey and M. L. Klein,
   title =        Comparison of simple potential functions for
                   simulating liquid water,
   journal =      J. Chem. Phys.,
   year =         1983,
   volume =       79,
   pages =        926--935
 }


Thanks, everyone. I was just recently said about the novel revisions
of the TIP4P model, so I am anxious to provide a correct reference in
the article.

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Re: [gmx-users] writing trajectory with water molecules within a distance from protein

2011-05-09 Thread Roland Schulz
Hi,

there is no tool to do that. Trajectories assume to have the same number of
atoms per frame. What you can do is use g_order (it gives you the water
sorted by distance and the number of water within .5nm) or g_select (it can
give you an index file with the atoms within .5nm for each frame)

Roland

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:50 AM, maria goranovic
mariagorano...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear experts

 I have a protein simulation in a water box. I now want to write a
 trajectory containing only the protein, and water molecules within 5
 Angstroms of the protein, with the water list being updated each time step.
 How can one do this? Appreciate the help

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Res: [gmx-users] different number of waters (grompp)

2011-05-09 Thread Ricardo O. S. Soares

Ricardo O. S. Soares wrote:
 Hello dear users,
 
 I'm having a problem trying to simulate one trimer. I'm using tip4p water and 
right after I fill the box with water and try to pre-process (grompp) the 
resulting .gro and .top, I get the following error:
 
 
 ---
 Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.1
 Source code file: grompp.c, line: 377
 
 Fatal error:
 number of coordinates in coordinate file (../box/box_water.gro, 274045)
  does not match topology (../top_water.top, 273029)
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 ---
 
 Here's the ending of the .top file:
 
 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 Protein_chain_A 1
 Protein_chain_H 1
 Protein_chain_L 1
 SOL59
 SOL97
 SOL98
 SOL 66032
 
 And the beginning of the .gro file shows the number 274045
 


The .top specifies fewer atoms than the .gro, so it's possible that there was 
some problem when genbox wrote the topology.  The screen output of genbox 
should 
have indicated how many waters were added - does this number match what you 
see in the .top?  Presumably the first three SOL entries are crystal waters?  
I 
don't know  that pre-existing waters should cause any problem, but it's 
possible.  The difference in the number of atoms is 1016, or 254 TIP4P 
molecules. 


Before updating to 4.5.4, I removed the crystal waters from the pdb file and 
now 
the grompp went fine. The problem was probably the different water notations 
after the genbox step. Here follows an exemple:

Crystal water before (original pdb):
...
HETATM 3999  O   HOH A 410  24.263  -7.517 -15.541  1.00 27.99   O  
HETATM 4000  O   HOH A 411   5.6827.359   2.277  1.00 35.66   O 
 

HETATM 4001  O   HOH A 412  20.924   0.175 -18.311  1.00 30.25   O  
HETATM 4002  O   HOH A 413   7.366   3.959  -6.173  1.00 36.77   O  
HETATM 4003  O   HOH A 414   0.563  16.043  -5.418  1.00 29.62   O  
 

...
and the added tip4p waters:
...
  121SOL OW 1760   0.519   0.692   0.680
  121SOLHW1 1761   0.504   0.612   0.731
  121SOLHW2 1762   0.601   0.727   0.714
  121SOL MW 1763   0.527   0.684   0.692
  122SOL OW 1764   0.856   1.378   1.365
...

I just wonder if the romoval of these crystal water may introduce artifacts to 
the simulation.

Thanks for your insights!


Coincidentally, 59 + 97  + 98 = 254.  It looks like genbox wrote the wrong 
number  of molecules it added.  If this is the case, please file an issue on 
redmine.gromacs.org with the exact steps  taken to reproduce the problem so 
it 
can be fixed.

-Justin

 Thanks for your time.
 
 Ricardo.
 

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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Compiling issue : Compiling gromacs 4.5.4 with intel compiler suite 12.0

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/05/2011 1:38 AM, kalav...@gmx.net wrote:

Hi,

I recompiled gromacs 4.5.4 and fftw3.2.2 with the newest version off the
intel compiler suit 12.0.2, still leading to segmentation faults. As
suggested, I tried lots of combinations of different forcefields, water
types and *.pdb's. Non of them was successful, so my segmentation fault
is reproducible. Even the delivered tutorial/test cases stopped with a
segmentation fault.
As a last step, I will try to compile gromacs with CMake. If there are
any alternatives you would suggest me to conduct, don't hesitated to let
me know.


I would --disable-shared everything and see how things went.

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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Atomtype CB not found

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/05/2011 3:10 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



ITHAYARAJA wrote:

Dear Sir

Greetings!

I am following every gromacs applications based on your manuals. I 
now get stuck in grompp -energy minimization step during generation 
of .tpr file for my ligand and protein. the error which i found is 
the following,



Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'
Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.5#

WARNING 1 [file em.mdp, line unknown]:
  Unknown or double left-hand 'coulomtype' in parameter file


Spelling is particularly important when dealing with literal-minded 
computers. You have to get it right.


Mark



checking input for internal consistency...
processing topology...
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
ffG43a1.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1nb.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1bon.itp
Opening library file /usr/share/gromacs/top/ff_dum.itp
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/kernel/toppush.c, line: 947

Fatal error:
Atomtype CB not found
---

Sir, I couldn't understand what did it refers to? So I kindly request 
you spare your little time from your busy schedule to solve this 
problem.




You're mixing and matching force fields.  Atom type CB does not exist 
in Gromos96 43A1, it comes from the deprecated ffgmx force field.


-Justin


Thank you, Sir


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Re: [gmx-users] writing trajectory with water molecules within a distance from protein

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/05/2011 12:50 AM, maria goranovic wrote:

Dear experts

I have a protein simulation in a water box. I now want to write a 
trajectory containing only the protein, and water molecules within 5 
Angstroms of the protein, with the water list being updated each time 
step. How can one do this? Appreciate the help


g_select is useful for dynamic selections of this type. g_select 
-select help can give examples and such.


I'd hope it's been designed so that then using trjconv to extract such 
selections works, but I can't think how, having not ever tried.


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Re: [gmx-users] total force acting on group

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/05/2011 12:43 AM, rasool.fakh...@ut.ac.ir wrote:

Hi dear user's
I want to calculate total force acting on one certain atom or group.
gromacs dose not have tools for force analysis, and FDA only give pair
forces between one group of atoms
how can i do this?


nstfout = xx in your .mdp file writes the MD forces to the .trr file. 
g_traj will then dump them to a text file.


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Re: [gmx-users] regarding nacl simulation in water using tabulated potentials

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/05/2011 2:20 AM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:
i had three tables one for solvent na and solvent cl ions (obeying lj 
potential) and na ,cl obeying my own potential.i have the following 
mdp file


em.mdp
title = nacl
cpp = /usr/bin/cpp ; the c preprocessor
define= -DEFLEXIBLE
integrator = md
dt = 0.001 ; ps !
nsteps = 6
nstlist = -1
ns_type = grid
rlist = 1.4
coulombtype = user
rcoulomb = 1.0
energygrps = Na Cl Sol
energygrp_table = Na Cl Na Sol Cl Sol


If your mdrun -table file will be for LJ, then the only tables you need 
to specify here are for Na-Cl interactions.



rvdw = 1.0
vdwtype= user
fourierspacing = 0.12
fourier_nx = 0
fourier_ny = 0
fourier_nz = 0
pme_order = 4
pbc=xyz;
; Energy minimizing stuff
emtol = 1000.0
emstep = 0.01


*and topology file is as follows*
[ defaults ]
; nbfunc comb-rule gen-pairs fudgeLJ  fudgeQQ
   11 yes  0.5  0.8333


[ atomtypes ]
; name bond type mass charge ptype C A
  NaNa   22.99  1   A   1.0e-03
  ClCl   35.453-1   A   9.0e-06



[ nonbond params ]
;i j  func   A   B   C
Na Cl 1   2.01E-09   3.154  11.2E-12   (buckingham)

I dont have idea how to include water topology and include  A B 
paramaters for water-ion interaction (lennard jones)


Set up a normal aqueous Na Cl simulation and adapt that. Consult 
tutorial material for examples for including water.


See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Tabulated_Potentials, 
like I suggested you search for earlier...


Mark




any help appreciated,
sree lakshmi

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 9/05/2011 4:01 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:

i had followed the instructions in themnaual for ninbonded
interactions adn had created two tables one for nacl adn other
table for water ion interations...


That's not I really don't  have any idea on how to do this.
Please ask the question you want answered, or you're wasting
everyone's time.



i wanted some information on how to use these tables for starting
thee simulation


Sorry, that's too general. You might want help with a command
line, or setting up the .mdp, or something else. Please read 6.7
of the manual, try things, and ask a focused question.

Mark



On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Abraham
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 9/05/2011 3:46 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:

dear gmx users,
   i have to simulate nacl in
water...the system is acubic box with just one na adn one
cl ion in tip3p water.i wanted to use a  buckingham
potential  for na adn cl interaction and lennard jones
for water -ion intercation.i really dont have any idea on
how to do this.any help will be of great use  for me...


Can't be done simply. You'd have to use non-bonded
interaction tables for the Na-Cl interaction with properly
constructed energy groups. Search the manual and webpage for
details.

Mark
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