[gmx-users] FW: trjconv -dump problem

2012-02-14 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Dear Gromacs users,

 

I minimized a protein structure 1IARcompleted_WT.pdb, getting, among
others, the files 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr and
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_potential_energy.xvg . Looking at the latter
file showed the last frame to be at 217 ps:

 

.

.

@title Gromacs Energies

@xaxis  label Time (ps)

@yaxis  label (kJ/mol) 

.

.

@ s0 legend Potential

0.00  -31997.519531

0.00  -33810.406250

  200.00  -69850.609375

  217.00  -69898.031250

 

I wanted to extract only this last frame from the .trr file, so used

 

trjconv  -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -o
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_217.trr -dump 217

 

However, this seems to have produced a file with the t = 200 ps
conformation, though the dump parameter was recorded, as trjconv output
was:

 

.

.

Option   Type   Value   Description

--

.

.

-dumptime   217 Dump frame nearest specified time (ps)

.

.

Will write trr: Trajectory in portable xdr format

trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)

Reading frame   2 time  200.000   

Dumping frame at t= 200 ps

Reading frame   3 time  217.000   

.

.

 

Also, using -dump 200 gave an identical file to the above.

 

Any idea why the expected timeframe isn't reproduced?

I'm using gromacs 4.5.3.

 

Thanks,

Ehud Schreiber.

 

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Re: [gmx-users] FW: trjconv -dump problem

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/02/2012 7:59 PM, Ehud Schreiber wrote:


Dear Gromacs users,

I minimized a protein structure 1IARcompleted_WT.pdb, getting, among 
others, the files 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr and 
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_potential_energy.xvg . Looking at the 
latter file showed the last frame to be at 217 ps:


.

.

@title Gromacs Energies

@xaxis  label Time (ps)

@yaxis  label (kJ/mol)

.

.

@ s0 legend Potential

0.00  -31997.519531

0.00  -33810.406250

  200.00  -69850.609375

  217.00  -69898.031250

I wanted to extract only this last frame from the .trr file, so used

trjconv  -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -o 
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_217.trr -dump 217


However, this seems to have produced a file with the t = 200 ps 
conformation, though the dump parameter was recorded, as trjconv 
output was:


.

.

Option   Type   Value   Description

--

.

.

-dumptime   217 Dump frame nearest specified time (ps)

.

.

Will write trr: Trajectory in portable xdr format

trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)

Reading frame   2 time  200.000

Dumping frame at t= 200 ps

Reading frame   3 time  217.000

.

.

Also, using -dump 200 gave an identical file to the above.

Any idea why the expected timeframe isn't reproduced?

I'm using gromacs 4.5.3.



Your nstxout parameter means not every frame is written. Prior to the 
implementation of checkpointing, the final frame was written to the .trr 
regardless of nstxout, but that no longer occurs. The final frame is in 
your checkpoint file, and you can use that anywhere you might use a 
coordinate file - including trjconv to get a simple coordinate file from it.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Npt equilibration of the membrane-mimicking CCl4 layer

2012-02-14 Thread James Starlight
This also was solved by the some extra minimisation steps.


I've forced with another problem :D

During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my desired
volume and density were perturbed.

I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me

ref_p= 1 1
compressibility = 4.5e-5

 i'm using this compressibility value   because I'm modelling the
lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure.  Could you
remind me the dependence of pressure from density and volume for liquids ?
:)

James



2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

 It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for Cl during
 defining of my box

 Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
  than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

 by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

 Fatal error:
 Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
 If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning threshold
 in your mdp file

 I've never seen this before

 I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
 my LINKS parameters are

 ; Bond parameters
 continuation= no; first dynamics run
 constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
 constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
 constrained
 lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
 lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy

 How I could solve it?


 James


 2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

 Mark,

 I've checked only density value

 with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely less that I need
 ( in accordance to the literature ). Also I've checked my box visually and
 found that the box is not properly tightly packed so I dont know why genbox
 didnt add some extra mollecules :(

 In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to add some extra
 molecules to the pre defined box to make my system more tighly packed  ( to
 short distance between existing molecules and place new ones in the new
 space ) ?

 James


 2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au

 On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:

 Justin,

 Firstly I've created the box of desired size with only 500 molecules (
 I need 1000)

 Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by means of Genbox

 genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro

 but no molecules have been added
 Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4


 ... then there are no gaps large enough to insert your molecules. Either
 make gaps, or check out genbox -h for advice on defining the radii.



 also I've tried

 genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro


 Two -cp options is not what you want, and -nmol probably only works with
 -ci.



 but system were crashed with message

 Reading solute configuration
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues
 Initialising van der waals distances...

 WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
 based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
 from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

 Reading solvent configuration
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in 1 residues


 Is there any ways to add extra mollecules to the pre defined box ?


 Yes - but there has to be room for them.

 Mark

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[gmx-users] RE: trjconv -dump problem

2012-02-14 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Dear Mark (or anybody else interested),

The .trr file does include the final (t = 217) frame - first, trjconv
said:
Reading frame   3 time  217.000
and second this is verified by converting the whole trajectory to .gro:
trjconv -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -s
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.tpr -o 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_path.gro 

It therefore seems the behavior is a bug, as the last frame is there,
and is needed, especially in minimizations. An output in a .gro format
is not sufficient for a further minimization because of its limited
accuracy format of coordinates.

Also, my mdrun did not produce a checkpoint file (I'm not sure whether
because I didn't ask to or because the run was shorter than 15 minutes).

Thanks,
Ehud Schreiber.

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 On 14/02/2012 7:59 PM, Ehud Schreiber wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

 I minimized a protein structure 1IARcompleted_WT.pdb, getting, among 
 others, the files 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr and 
 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_potential_energy.xvg . Looking at the 
 latter file showed the last frame to be at 217 ps:

 .
 .

 @title Gromacs Energies
 @xaxis  label Time (ps)
 @yaxis  label (kJ/mol)
 .
 .
 @ s0 legend Potential
 0.00  -31997.519531
 0.00  -33810.406250
   200.00  -69850.609375
   217.00  -69898.031250
 I wanted to extract only this last frame from the .trr file, so used

 trjconv  -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -o 
 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_217.trr -dump 217

 However, this seems to have produced a file with the t = 200 ps 
 conformation, though the dump parameter was recorded, as trjconv 
 output was:

 .
 .
 Option   Type   Value   Description
 --
 .
 .
 -dumptime   217 Dump frame nearest specified time (ps)
 .
 .
 Will write trr: Trajectory in portable xdr format
 trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
 Reading frame   2 time  200.000
 Dumping frame at t= 200 ps
 Reading frame   3 time  217.000
 .
 .

 Also, using -dump 200 gave an identical file to the above.

 Any idea why the expected timeframe isn't reproduced?
 I'm using gromacs 4.5.3.

 
 Your nstxout parameter means not every frame is written.
 Prior to the implementation of checkpointing, the final frame was
written to the .trr regardless of nstxout, but that no longer occurs.
 The final frame is in your checkpoint file, and you can use that
anywhere you might use a coordinate file - including trjconv to get a
simple coordinate file from it.
 
 Mark

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[gmx-users] GROMOS96 53a6 and PRODRG topologies

2012-02-14 Thread xiaojiong
Dear:
My receptor is membrane proteins,the I get protein-ligand complex.I want to 
do MD simulations in DPPC.Can I use the GROMOS96 53a6 force field modified in 
order to include Berger’s parameters for lipids?The topology for the ligand was 
created employing the server PRODRG 2.5 Beta.How to change the charges?
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Re: [gmx-users] GROMOS96 53a6 and PRODRG topologies

2012-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xiaojiong wrote:

Dear:
My receptor is membrane proteins,the I get protein-ligand complex.I 
want to do MD simulations in DPPC.Can I use the GROMOS96 53a6 force 
field modified in order to 
include Berger’s parameters for lipids?


Sure, but there are other choices, as well.


The topology for the ligand was created employing the server PRODRG 2.5 Beta.
How to change the charges?



http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci100335w

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Npt equilibration of the membrane-mimicking CCl4 layer

2012-02-14 Thread Thomas Schlesier

I assume that you energy minimisd the system, but still have atomic clashes?

One thing which helped me in a similar case, was a short simulation at 
low temperature with a really small timestep (about 3-5 magnitudes 
smaller than the normal timestep). With this the atoms which clashes 
move away from each other, but due to the very small timestep, they are 
not fast as rockets and shouldn't lead to an exploding system.
Then when most clashes are resolved you can continue with a normal 
equilibration.


Greetings
Thomas



It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for Cl during
defining of my box

Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
 than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

Fatal error:
Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning threshold
in your mdp file

I've never seen this before

I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
my LINKS parameters are

; Bond parameters
continuation= no; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
constrained
lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy

How I could solve it?


James

2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

  Mark,
 
  I've checked only density value
 
  with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely less that I 
need (
  in accordance to the literature ). Also I've checked my box 
visually and
  found that the box is not properly tightly packed so I dont know 
why genbox

  didnt add some extra mollecules :(
 
  In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to add some extra
  molecules to the pre defined box to make my system more tighly 
packed  ( to

  short distance between existing molecules and place new ones in the new
  space ) ?
 
  James
 
 
  2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 
  On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:
 
  Justin,
 
  Firstly I've created the box of desired size with only 500 
molecules ( I

  need 1000)
 
  Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by means of Genbox
 
  genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro
 
  but no molecules have been added
  Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4
 
 
  ... then there are no gaps large enough to insert your molecules. 
Either

  make gaps, or check out genbox -h for advice on defining the radii.
 
 
 
  also I've tried
 
  genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro
 
 
  Two -cp options is not what you want, and -nmol probably only 
works with

  -ci.
 
 
 
  but system were crashed with message
 
  Reading solute configuration
  God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues
  Initialising van der waals distances...
 
  WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
  based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
  from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.
 
  Reading solvent configuration
  God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in 1 residues
 
 
  Is there any ways to add extra mollecules to the pre defined box ?
 
 
  Yes - but there has to be room for them.
 
  Mark
 
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[gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP

2012-02-14 Thread Alexey Zeifman
Dear all,

I'm trying to run FEP calculation of the ligand in the protein in water. 
Performing NVT-dynamics for Lennard-Johnes perturbation using soft core results 
in the following error:

There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes...

I've checked out the log-file and found this:

Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
    two-body bonded interactions: 1.474 nm, Bond, atoms 4371 4391
  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.522 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 3747 3756
Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.621 nm
Guess for relative PME load: 0.29
Will use 20 particle-particle and 12 PME only nodes
This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file
Using 12 separate PME nodes
Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
Optimizing the DD grid for 20 cells with a minimum initial size of 2.026 nm
The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 3 Y 3 Z 3

---
Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.1
Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6428

Fatal error:
There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes that is compatible with the 
given box and a minimum cell size of 2.02621 nm
Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd or -dds
Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

I understand that distance of 1.474 nm is rather big for bond! BUT I can't find 
such a distance between atoms 4371 4391. The fragment of gro-file for such 
index interval looks like this:

  640LIG C4 4371   2.897   3.416   3.072
  640LIG N3 4372   3.296   3.109   3.434
  640LIG N6 4373   3.416   2.999   3.595
  640LIG C6 4374   2.696   2.762   3.601
  640LIG C7 4375   3.025   3.232   3.150
  640LIG C8 4376   3.208   3.142   3.338
  640LIG C9 4377   2.758   2.644   3.649
  640LIG    C10 4378   2.767   2.884   3.595
  640LIG N4 4379   3.319   2.826   3.731
  640LIG    C11 4380   2.968   2.768   3.677
  640LIG    C12 4381   2.894   2.648   3.686
  640LIG    C13 4382   2.901   2.887   3.638
  640LIG N5 4383   3.100   2.766   3.707
  640LIG    C14 4384   3.420   2.908   3.693
  640LIG O1 4385   3.018   3.627   3.068
  640LIG    C15 4386   3.028   3.095   3.182
  640LIG    C16 4387   3.123   3.049   3.275
  640LIG O2 4388   2.566   2.759   3.559
  640LIG O3 4389   2.699   2.993   3.545
  640LIG O4 4390   2.680   2.530   3.655
  640LIG    C17 4391   2.791   3.426   3.184
  640LIG    C18 4392   2.834   3.453   2.937

and the actual distance is 1.55 A - quite OK for single C-C bond. 

And another interesting fact is that it doesn't occur during FEP calculation of 
the same system without soft-core and aimed at only charge perturbation.

I will appreciate any help regarding this.

Alexey Zeifman

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Re: [gmx-users] Number of windows in umbrella sampling

2012-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



shahid nayeem wrote:
Thanks Justin. I will try again. But please refer to some protocol if 
you know and one last question that before doing umbrella sampling 
simulation how can one be sure that the pulling is good and one should 
go ahead with selecting window and doing umbrella sampling. In the end 
when you see histo.xvg and profile.xvg , it cost a lot computationally 
and if you  don't get it right these computational resources are wasted. 


There are certainly simulations that have been published using umbrella sampling 
on a variety of systems.  I'm sure some relatively quick literature searching 
will lead you to some suitable ideas.  Spending a few hours doing some reading 
will save you months of wasted CPU time.


-Justin


Shahid nayeem

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




shahid nayeem wrote:

Thanks for quick reply. I have created mutant of a complex by
changing interface residue in VMD. These mutant are
experimentally known to show less binding affinity. I want to
reproduce these results with umbrella sampling. Now I am sending
profile and histo file for wt and mutant. Please suggest where i
am wrong.


The PMF curves look poorly converged.  Your reaction coordinates are
not the same for both the WT and mutant (you appear to have a far
shorter reaction coordinate for the mutant).  The energy minimum is
also ill-defined for the mutant.

As for the reason behind these phenomena, I cannot say, nor do I
have time to sort through your data and try to work it out for you.
 Refer to the literature, find similar protocols, and proceed from
there.

-Justin

Shahid Nayeem


On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



   shahid nayeem wrote:

   Dear Justin
   I am doing umbrella pulling simulation of a protein
complex wt
   and mutant. I expect mutant to give lower deltG value. I am
   attaching a tif file of energy vs time curve of wt and mutant
   protein on pulling simulation. These energies are obtained by
   g_energy and selecting 11 option which is COM pulling
energy. In
   this curve the first peak decreases and again rises at longer
   time. How many windows should be selected. As expected
the peak
   of COM pulling energy is lower in mutants. Please explain why
   the energy again rises at higher time. Should I use the
windows
   upto 160ps only because thereafter in both curve there is
rise
   in energy value. the pull code used is as follows.


   What you have obtained is a path-dependent energy that may or may
   not signify anything useful - it almost certainly does not.  I
   cannot offer an explanation of the sharp increase towards the
end of
   the simulation other than to speculate that your box is of
   insufficient size and you're encountering PBC issues.

   As for how many windows are necessary, it's also impossible
to tell.
You need enough windows to adequately sample the reaction
   coordinate.  Thus, it is decided based on how far you need to
   separate the two species, how strong the force constant is during
   the US simulations, the nature of the interactions in the
system and
   how fast they converge, etc.

   -Justin


   pull_geometry   = distance pull_dim= Y N  Y
   pull_vec1   = 0.75 0  1
   pull_start  = yes  pull_ngroups= 1
   pull_group0 = Chain_B pull_group1 = Chain_A
pull_rate1 = 0.01  pull_k1 = 1000


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Re: [gmx-users] Number of windows in umbrella sampling

2012-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



shahid nayeem wrote:
Thanks Justin. I will try again. But please refer to some protocol if 
you know and one last question that before doing umbrella sampling 
simulation how can one be sure that the pulling is good and one should 
go ahead with selecting window and doing umbrella sampling. In the end 
when you see histo.xvg and profile.xvg , it cost a lot computationally 
and if you  don't get it right these computational resources are wasted. 


There are certainly simulations that have been published using umbrella 
sampling on a variety of systems.  I'm sure some relatively quick 
literature searching will lead you to some suitable ideas.  Spending a 
few hours doing some reading will save you months of wasted CPU time.




I should, of course, mention that what you have done is not necessarily wasted, 
it's simply insufficient.  Simulations can always be extended and new umbrella 
sampling windows added after the fact and incorporated into the analysis.  A 
better experimental plan will save these headaches in the future.


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Re: [gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP

2012-02-14 Thread lloyd riggs
Dear Alexey Zeifman,

From my experience it is just the nodes have to break down into some sort of 
even multiple by dividing the domain decomposition size or vise versi.  I 
think somone elses answere was just to try it with a couple sizes for the 
decomposition, as multiples of the number of nodes.

also your PME reserved nodes are probably too much or your wasting space, but I 
am not sure if this effects the domain decomposition or if all 20 nodes are 
thrown into that?

Stephan Watkins

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:01:24 +0400
 Von: Alexey Zeifman az...@mail.ru
 An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Betreff: [gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP

 Dear all,
 
 I'm trying to run FEP calculation of the ligand in the protein in water.
 Performing NVT-dynamics for Lennard-Johnes perturbation using soft core
 results in the following error:
 
 There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes...
 
 I've checked out the log-file and found this:
 
 Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
     two-body bonded interactions: 1.474 nm, Bond, atoms 4371 4391
   multi-body bonded interactions: 0.522 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 3747
 3756
 Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.621 nm
 Guess for relative PME load: 0.29
 Will use 20 particle-particle and 12 PME only nodes
 This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file
 Using 12 separate PME nodes
 Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
 Optimizing the DD grid for 20 cells with a minimum initial size of 2.026
 nm
 The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 3 Y 3 Z 3
 
 ---
 Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.1
 Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6428
 
 Fatal error:
 There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes that is compatible with the
 given box and a minimum cell size of 2.02621 nm
 Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd or -dds
 Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
 GROMACS
 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 ---
 
 I understand that distance of 1.474 nm is rather big for bond! BUT I can't
 find such a distance between atoms 4371 4391. The fragment of gro-file for
 such index interval looks like this:
 
   640LIG C4 4371   2.897   3.416   3.072
   640LIG N3 4372   3.296   3.109   3.434
   640LIG N6 4373   3.416   2.999   3.595
   640LIG C6 4374   2.696   2.762   3.601
   640LIG C7 4375   3.025   3.232   3.150
   640LIG C8 4376   3.208   3.142   3.338
   640LIG C9 4377   2.758   2.644   3.649
   640LIG    C10 4378   2.767   2.884   3.595
   640LIG N4 4379   3.319   2.826   3.731
   640LIG    C11 4380   2.968   2.768   3.677
   640LIG    C12 4381   2.894   2.648   3.686
   640LIG    C13 4382   2.901   2.887   3.638
   640LIG N5 4383   3.100   2.766   3.707
   640LIG    C14 4384   3.420   2.908   3.693
   640LIG O1 4385   3.018   3.627   3.068
   640LIG    C15 4386   3.028   3.095   3.182
   640LIG    C16 4387   3.123   3.049   3.275
   640LIG O2 4388   2.566   2.759   3.559
   640LIG O3 4389   2.699   2.993   3.545
   640LIG O4 4390   2.680   2.530   3.655
   640LIG    C17 4391   2.791   3.426   3.184
   640LIG    C18 4392   2.834   3.453   2.937
 
 and the actual distance is 1.55 A - quite OK for single C-C bond. 
 
 And another interesting fact is that it doesn't occur during FEP
 calculation of the same system without soft-core and aimed at only charge
 perturbation.
 
 I will appreciate any help regarding this.
 
 Alexey Zeifman
 

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Re: [gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP

2012-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Alexey Zeifman wrote:

Dear all,

I'm trying to run FEP calculation of the ligand in the protein in water. 
Performing NVT-dynamics for Lennard-Johnes perturbation using soft core 
results in the following error:


There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes...

I've checked out the log-file and found this:

 Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
 two-body bonded interactions: 1.474 nm, Bond, atoms 4371 4391
  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.522 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 3747 3756
 Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.621 nm
 Guess for relative PME load: 0.29
 Will use 20 particle-particle and 12 PME only nodes
 This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file
 Using 12 separate PME nodes
 Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
 Optimizing the DD grid for 20 cells with a minimum initial size of 
2.026 nm

 The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 3 Y 3 Z 3
 
---
 Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.1
 Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6428

 Fatal error:
 There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes that is compatible with 
the given box and a minimum cell size of 2.02621 nm

 Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd or -dds
 Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the 
GROMACS

 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

I understand that distance of 1.474 nm is rather big for bond! BUT I 
can't find such a distance between atoms 4371 4391. The fragment of 
gro-file for such index interval looks like this:


  640LIG C4 4371   2.897   3.416   3.072
  640LIG N3 4372   3.296   3.109   3.434
  640LIG N6 4373   3.416   2.999   3.595
  640LIG C6 4374   2.696   2.762   3.601
  640LIG C7 4375   3.025   3.232   3.150
  640LIG C8 4376   3.208   3.142   3.338
  640LIG C9 4377   2.758   2.644   3.649
  640LIGC10 4378   2.767   2.884   3.595
  640LIG N4 4379   3.319   2.826   3.731
  640LIGC11 4380   2.968   2.768   3.677
  640LIGC12 4381   2.894   2.648   3.686
  640LIGC13 4382   2.901   2.887   3.638
  640LIG N5 4383   3.100   2.766   3.707
  640LIGC14 4384   3.420   2.908   3.693
  640LIG O1 4385   3.018   3.627   3.068
  640LIGC15 4386   3.028   3.095   3.182
  640LIGC16 4387   3.123   3.049   3.275
  640LIG O2 4388   2.566   2.759   3.559
  640LIG O3 4389   2.699   2.993   3.545
  640LIG O4 4390   2.680   2.530   3.655
  640LIGC17 4391   2.791   3.426   3.184
  640LIGC18 4392   2.834   3.453   2.937

and the actual distance is 1.55 A - quite OK for single C-C bond.

And another interesting fact is that it doesn't occur during FEP 
calculation of the same system without soft-core and aimed at only 
charge perturbation.


I will appreciate any help regarding this.



The general information about this error can be found at:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#There_is_no_domain_decomposition_for_n_nodes_that_is_compatible_with_the_given_box_and_a_minimum_cell_size_of_x_nm

The DD setup is based on a host of factors.  Seeing a complete .mdp file would 
help.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 1:44 AM, lloyd riggs wrote:

Dear Alexey Zeifman,

 From my experience it is just the nodes have to break down into some sort of 
even multiple by dividing the domain decomposition size or vise versi.  I think 
somone elses answere was just to try it with a couple sizes for the decomposition, 
as multiples of the number of nodes.

also your PME reserved nodes are probably too much or your wasting space, but I 
am not sure if this effects the domain decomposition or if all 20 nodes are 
thrown into that?


This is not really the issue. You can read in the OP's output that there 
are 20 PP and 12 PME nodes, which is a normal enough ratio, and fine for 
a 0.29 PME load...


If the OP is confident that his initial configuration really doesn't 
have such a long bond (no input checkpoint file messing things up?) he 
should try again with GROMACS 4.5.5.


Mark



Stephan Watkins

 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:01:24 +0400
Von: Alexey Zeifmanaz...@mail.ru
An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Betreff: [gmx-users] Domain decomposition in FEP
Dear all,

I'm trying to run FEP calculation of the ligand in the protein in water.
Performing NVT-dynamics for Lennard-Johnes perturbation using soft core
results in the following error:

There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes...

I've checked out the log-file and found this:


Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
 two-body bonded interactions: 1.474 nm, Bond, atoms 4371 4391

multi-body bonded interactions: 0.522 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 3747
3756

Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.621 nm
Guess for relative PME load: 0.29
Will use 20 particle-particle and 12 PME only nodes
This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file
Using 12 separate PME nodes
Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
Optimizing the DD grid for 20 cells with a minimum initial size of 2.026

nm

The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 3 Y 3 Z 3


---

Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.1
Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6428
Fatal error:
There is no domain decomposition for 20 nodes that is compatible with the

given box and a minimum cell size of 2.02621 nm

Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd or -dds
Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the

GROMACS

website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors

---

I understand that distance of 1.474 nm is rather big for bond! BUT I can't
find such a distance between atoms 4371 4391. The fragment of gro-file for
such index interval looks like this:

   640LIG C4 4371   2.897   3.416   3.072
   640LIG N3 4372   3.296   3.109   3.434
   640LIG N6 4373   3.416   2.999   3.595
   640LIG C6 4374   2.696   2.762   3.601
   640LIG C7 4375   3.025   3.232   3.150
   640LIG C8 4376   3.208   3.142   3.338
   640LIG C9 4377   2.758   2.644   3.649
   640LIGC10 4378   2.767   2.884   3.595
   640LIG N4 4379   3.319   2.826   3.731
   640LIGC11 4380   2.968   2.768   3.677
   640LIGC12 4381   2.894   2.648   3.686
   640LIGC13 4382   2.901   2.887   3.638
   640LIG N5 4383   3.100   2.766   3.707
   640LIGC14 4384   3.420   2.908   3.693
   640LIG O1 4385   3.018   3.627   3.068
   640LIGC15 4386   3.028   3.095   3.182
   640LIGC16 4387   3.123   3.049   3.275
   640LIG O2 4388   2.566   2.759   3.559
   640LIG O3 4389   2.699   2.993   3.545
   640LIG O4 4390   2.680   2.530   3.655
   640LIGC17 4391   2.791   3.426   3.184
   640LIGC18 4392   2.834   3.453   2.937

and the actual distance is 1.55 A - quite OK for single C-C bond.

And another interesting fact is that it doesn't occur during FEP
calculation of the same system without soft-core and aimed at only charge
perturbation.

I will appreciate any help regarding this.

Alexey Zeifman



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[gmx-users] rotational autocorrelation function

2012-02-14 Thread Vijayaraj
Hello,

I have done COM pulling simulation to pull a small molecule
(5-Fluorouracil) through a path. I want to see the rotational freedom for
the pulled over molecule during the SMD simulation. Is it meaningful to
calculate the rotational autocorrelation for a molecule which observes
external force?

Regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] RE: trjconv -dump problem

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/02/2012 11:39 PM, Ehud Schreiber wrote:

Dear Mark (or anybody else interested),

The .trr file does include the final (t = 217) frame - first, trjconv
said:
Reading frame   3 time  217.000
and second this is verified by converting the whole trajectory to .gro:
trjconv -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -s
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.tpr -o 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_path.gro

It therefore seems the behavior is a bug, as the last frame is there,
and is needed, especially in minimizations. An output in a .gro format
is not sufficient for a further minimization because of its limited
accuracy format of coordinates.


I looked at the code. This is an artefact of trjconv having to try to 
work out the spacing of the frames in your .trr to then work out which 
frame is probably going to be the closest. It assumes the frame will be 
equally spaced, and accepts the first frame that is closer than half the 
spacing it computes from the first two frames. Since your frames are 
presumably 100, 200 and 217, the spacing is 100 and it accepts 200 
because it's the first one it finds within 100/2 of 217.


You can work around this in lots of ways (trjconv -b 217; using 
nstxout=0 in the first EM; using nstxout=1 in the first EM; using 
nstxout extremely large in the first EM; taking the EM output .trr and 
giving it to the next grompp -t without doing anything).




Also, my mdrun did not produce a checkpoint file (I'm not sure whether
because I didn't ask to or because the run was shorter than 15 minutes).


OK, maybe EM has a different behaviour (no checkpoint, thus write last 
configuration always).


Mark



Thanks,
Ehud Schreiber.


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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:58:10 +1100
From: Mark Abrahammark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] FW: trjconv -dump problem
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On 14/02/2012 7:59 PM, Ehud Schreiber wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

I minimized a protein structure 1IARcompleted_WT.pdb, getting, among
others, the files 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr and
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_potential_energy.xvg . Looking at the
latter file showed the last frame to be at 217 ps:

.
.

@title Gromacs Energies
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label (kJ/mol)
.
.
@ s0 legend Potential
 0.00  -31997.519531
 0.00  -33810.406250
   200.00  -69850.609375
   217.00  -69898.031250
I wanted to extract only this last frame from the .trr file, so used

trjconv  -f 1IARcompleted_WT_minimized.trr -o
1IARcompleted_WT_minimized_217.trr -dump 217

However, this seems to have produced a file with the t = 200 ps
conformation, though the dump parameter was recorded, as trjconv
output was:

.
.
Option   Type   Value   Description
--
.
.
-dumptime   217 Dump frame nearest specified time (ps)
.
.
Will write trr: Trajectory in portable xdr format
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   2 time  200.000
Dumping frame at t= 200 ps
Reading frame   3 time  217.000
.
.

Also, using -dump 200 gave an identical file to the above.

Any idea why the expected timeframe isn't reproduced?
I'm using gromacs 4.5.3.


Your nstxout parameter means not every frame is written.
Prior to the implementation of checkpointing, the final frame was

written to the .trr regardless of nstxout, but that no longer occurs.

The final frame is in your checkpoint file, and you can use that

anywhere you might use a coordinate file - including trjconv to get a
simple coordinate file from it.

Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] Npt equilibration of the membrane-mimicking CCl4 layer

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:

This also was solved by the some extra minimisation steps.


I've forced with another problem :D

During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my 
desired volume and density were perturbed.


I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me

ref_p= 1 1
compressibility = 4.5e-5

 i'm using this compressibility value   because I'm modelling the 
lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure.  
Could you remind me the dependence of pressure from density and volume 
for liquids ? :)


Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings will 
determine the equilibrium density. Whether you need to do anything 
depends on whether you've made a statistically significant 
post-equilibration measurement of your average density. Haphazardly 
increasing the reference pressure for the coupling will reduce the 
volume, but now you are simulating at that pressure. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure for background 
info.


Mark



James



2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com 
mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com


It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for Cl
during defining of my box

Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
 than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

Fatal error:
Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning
threshold in your mdp file

I've never seen this before

I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
my LINKS parameters are

; Bond parameters
continuation= no; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H
bonds) constrained
lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy

How I could solve it?


James


2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com

Mark,

I've checked only density value

with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely less
that I need ( in accordance to the literature ). Also I've
checked my box visually and found that the box is not properly
tightly packed so I dont know why genbox didnt add some extra
mollecules :(

In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to add
some extra molecules to the pre defined box to make my system
more tighly packed  ( to short distance between existing
molecules and place new ones in the new space ) ?

James


2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au

On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Justin,

Firstly I've created the box of desired size with only
500 molecules ( I need 1000)

Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by means of
Genbox

genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o
new_solv.gro

but no molecules have been added
Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4


... then there are no gaps large enough to insert your
molecules. Either make gaps, or check out genbox -h for
advice on defining the radii.



also I've tried

genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o
new_solv.gro


Two -cp options is not what you want, and -nmol probably
only works with -ci.



but system were crashed with message

Reading solute configuration
God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues
Initialising van der waals distances...

WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will
be determined
based on residue and atom names. These numbers
can deviate
from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

Reading solvent configuration
God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in 1 residues


Is there any ways to add extra mollecules to the pre
defined box ?


Yes - but there has to be room for them.

Mark

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[gmx-users] what does the Coulomb (SR) mean under PME?

2012-02-14 Thread Qiao Baofu
Hi all,

Anybody can help me out! Thanks in advance?

In my test simulation, there are one Na^+ and one Cl^- (the distance of
1nm) in vacuum in a very big simulation box (10*10*10 nm^3). I calculated
the energies under two different conditions, coulombtype=PME vs
coulombtype=cut-off.
1. coulombtype=PME
Coul. recip.   -139.191 --  0  0
(kJ/mol)
Coul-SR:NA-CL*-0.0322805* --  0  0
(kJ/mol)
LJ-SR:NA-CL  -0.00100285 --  0  0
(kJ/mol)
2. coulombtype=cut-off
Coul-SR:NA-CL * -138.935* --  0  0
(kJ/mol)
LJ-SR:NA-CL  -0.00100285 --  0  0
(kJ/mol)

I did some calculations. Under coulombtype=cut-off, E(Coul-SR) =
f*e_i*e_j/r with f=138.935, which is what I expect.
However under coulombtype=PME, how does Gromacs get the value of
-0.0322805kJ/mol for *SR* term? If I understand it correctly, SR means
short-range, which is within the cut-off distance. Since the cut-off
distance (1.2nm here) is much smaller than the simulation box length
(10nm), there is not short-range interaction with the image box.

Some details:
Gromacs 4.5.5
PBC is used.
distance of Na^+ and Cl^-: 1nm
Na^+ and Cl^- are frozen in XYZ dimensions.
Only 1 step is run.

best regards,
Baofu
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[gmx-users] Umbrella sampling and WHAM along a curved pathway?

2012-02-14 Thread HAO JIANG
Dear all,

I would like to calculate the PMF along a curved reaction pathway
using umbrella sampling. I just wonder if it is appropriate to use
g_wham to extract the PMF along the curved pathway? Any help would be
appreciated.

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[gmx-users] Question regarding freeze groups and their use

2012-02-14 Thread J. Nathan Scott
Hi all,

I know there has been a *lot* of discussion on the mailing list on
using freezegrps and potential pitfalls, but after having read much of
this discussion the past couple of days and the manual I still find
myself with questions and problems I'm hoping someone can help with.

What I want to do, specifically, is have my protein frozen (*not* just
constrained with some large force, I need actual freezing of every
protein atom) but have the solvent still react to the frozen protein.
The purpose behind this is to compare the water behavior near a
particular part of a protein when it is dynamic and when it is not and
thereby learn something about the communication between protein and
solvent in this case. However, it seems that I'm not finding a
rational set of mdp options to allow this, at least not a set for
which dynamics will run with any speed. I have tried many of the
things people have discussed on the mailing list, including turning
off constraints, turning off pressure coupling, reducing the Protein
heat bath temperature to 0 K, and using energygrp_excl. Here are the
parameters I just tried:


integrator  = md
nsteps  = 100
dt  = 0.001
nstxout = 1
nstvout = 1
nstxtcout   = 1
nstenergy   = 1
nstlog  = 1
continuation= yes
constraints = none
ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist   = 1.0
rcoulomb= 1.0
rvdw= 1.0
coulombtype = PME
pme_order   = 4
fourierspacing  = 0.16
tcoupl  = V-rescale
tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein
tau_t   = 0.1   0.1
ref_t   = 0   300
pcoupl  = no
pbc = xyz
DispCorr= EnerPres
gen_vel = no
freezegrps  = Protein
freezedim   = Y Y Y
;;;

This ran, but *incredibly* slowly (I'm using a single 32 processor
node, and only got 255 steps in 10 wallclock minutes). From the
discussions I've read on the mailing list it seems that PME is
somewhat less than ideal for simulations involving frozen atoms, but I
used PME for electrostatics in my non-frozen simulations and would
like to keep that consistent if possible (I do get a grompp warning of
course). I am also getting warnings in the log file like: DD  step
254  vol min/aver 0.183! load imb.: force 2395.3%  pme mesh/force
1.243 which I believe must be due to the frozen protein causing
difficulties with domain decomposition.

Can anyone offer any advice regarding these issues? I know this has
been discussed often, but nothing I'm finding in the archives is
particularly relevant.


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[gmx-users] water channel

2012-02-14 Thread Yao Yao
Hi Gmxers,

Happy Valentine's Day! 

Sorry, I am still simulating a protein that has water channel.
I was just wondering if there is a way to calculate the water density in the 
channel throughout my trajectory.
I was lucky enough to run a NPT simulation. So I guess I can use g_energy to 
directly get density.
But since the number of the channel water is quite dynamic, I do not think I 
can separate energy group for them in my mdp.
Could someone help me with this?

Thanks,

Yao
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Re: [gmx-users] water channel

2012-02-14 Thread Jianguo Li
You can look at gromacs tool g_flux and g_count at: 

https://github.com/orbeckst/g_count

Jianguo



 From: Yao Yao ya...@ymail.com
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 10:38
Subject: [gmx-users] water channel
 

Hi Gmxers,

Happy Valentine's Day! 

Sorry, I am still simulating a protein that has water channel.
I was just wondering if there is a way to calculate the water density in the 
channel throughout my trajectory.
I was lucky enough to run a NPT simulation. So I guess I can use g_energy to 
directly get density.
But since the number of the channel water is quite dynamic, I do not think I 
can separate energy group for them in my mdp.
Could someone help me with this?

Thanks,

Yao

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[gmx-users] charmm27 in gromacs

2012-02-14 Thread Tom
Dear Gmx Developer or Users,

Can anyone explain which section is for  the parameters of improper
dihedral angle
on the file of ffbonded.itp ?

On the file of ffbonded.itp, there is not any comment to differentiate the
proper and improper
dihedral angle.

E.g. on thie file of ffbonded.itp in the directory of charmm27.ff
There are two sections about dihedral angle:

[ dihedraltypes ]
; i j   k   l   funcphi0cp  mult
C   CT1 NH1 C  * 9*   180.00  0.8368  1
..

[ dihedraltypes ]
; i j   k   l   funcq0  cq
CPB CPA NPH CPA* 2*   0.  174.0544
..
There is also no explaination the explaination about the function type 2.

It seems difficult for users to edit the parameters.
Thanks for the explainations!
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Re: [gmx-users] charmm27 in gromacs

2012-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Tom wrote:

Dear Gmx Developer or Users,
 
Can anyone explain which section is for  the parameters of improper 
dihedral angle

on the file of ffbonded.itp ?
 
On the file of ffbonded.itp, there is not any comment to differentiate 
the proper and improper
dihedral angle.  
 
E.g. on thie file of ffbonded.itp in the directory of charmm27.ff

There are two sections about dihedral angle:

[ dihedraltypes ]
; i j   k   l   funcphi0cp  mult
C   CT1 NH1 C  * 9*   180.00  0.8368  1
..
 
[ dihedraltypes ]

; i j   k   l   funcq0  cq
CPB CPA NPH CPA* 2*   0.  174.0544
..
There is also no explaination the explaination about the function type 2.
 


Table 5.5 of the manual lists all function types, what they are, and what the 
required parameters are.  Functional forms are discussed in section 4.2.



It seems difficult for users to edit the parameters.


Comprehensive explanations of all nuts and bolts are beyond what can be included 
in the manual or force field files.  A deep knowledge of the underlying force 
field (which may span several published papers, other manuals, etc) is required 
to understand any of the force fields implemented in Gromacs (or any other 
software, for that matter).


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Water Shell Density

2012-02-14 Thread Yao Yao
Hi Gmxers,

Is there a way to calculate the density of water in a protein hydration layer, 
like from 5 A to 10 A (radius) from the protein surface?

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[gmx-users] about the umbrella sampling potential

2012-02-14 Thread Hao Jiang

Dear all,

I got confused about the usage of pull-geometry and pull-dim (pull-vector)
settings in the umbrella sampling simulations (not the pull / SMD
simulations).

In an umbrella sampling potential, U(r)=0.5*(r-r0)*(r-r0), are r and r0
referring to (A) the distance between the pulled group and the reference
group, or (B) the distance between the pulled group and the reference group
*projected* to a vector pre-defined by pull-dim or pull-vector?

Note these two distances are not equal unless the pulled group stay strictly
on the predefined vector, which I believe is not always the case.

If A is true, in principle group1 should be able to move freely within a
spherical shell centered at group0, right? What is the point to specify
pull-geometry and pull-dim in this case?

If B is true, group1 should in principle be able to move freely in  plane
perpendicular to the pre-defined vector. So if pull-dim= N N Y, the pulled
group should be able to move freely in the X-Y plane, right?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hao Jiang


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Re: [gmx-users] Npt equilibration of the membrane-mimicking CCl4 layer

2012-02-14 Thread James Starlight
Mark,


due to hight density the volume of my system have been slightly increased
and during NPT phase I've obtained error

Fatal error:
One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off length or
box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off.

I'm using 0.9 for electrostatic and 1.4 for vdw cutofs and the dimensions
of my box was 6.5 3 3 on the initial step and 6.6 3 3.3 before crush :)

I want prevent such expansion of my system by increasing of pressure and/
or compressibility but I have not found exact sollution yet.


James


2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au

  On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:

 This also was solved by the some extra minimisation steps.


 I've forced with another problem :D

 During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my desired
 volume and density were perturbed.

 I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me

 ref_p= 1 1
 compressibility = 4.5e-5

  i'm using this compressibility value   because I'm modelling the
 lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure.  Could you
 remind me the dependence of pressure from density and volume for liquids ?
 :)


 Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings will determine
 the equilibrium density. Whether you need to do anything depends on whether
 you've made a statistically significant post-equilibration measurement of
 your average density. Haphazardly increasing the reference pressure for the
 coupling will reduce the volume, but now you are simulating at that
 pressure. See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressurefor 
 background info.

 Mark



 James



 2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

 It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for Cl during
 defining of my box

 Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
  than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

 by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

 Fatal error:
 Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
 If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning threshold
 in your mdp file

 I've never seen this before

 I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
 my LINKS parameters are

 ; Bond parameters
 continuation= no; first dynamics run
 constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
 constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
 constrained
 lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
 lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy

 How I could solve it?


 James


 2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

 Mark,

 I've checked only density value

 with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely less that I need
 ( in accordance to the literature ). Also I've checked my box visually and
 found that the box is not properly tightly packed so I dont know why genbox
 didnt add some extra mollecules :(

 In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to add some extra
 molecules to the pre defined box to make my system more tighly packed  ( to
 short distance between existing molecules and place new ones in the new
 space ) ?

 James


 2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au

 On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:

 Justin,

 Firstly I've created the box of desired size with only 500 molecules (
 I need 1000)

 Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by means of Genbox

 genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro

 but no molecules have been added
 Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4


  ... then there are no gaps large enough to insert your molecules.
 Either make gaps, or check out genbox -h for advice on defining the radii.



 also I've tried

 genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro


  Two -cp options is not what you want, and -nmol probably only works
 with -ci.



 but system were crashed with message

 Reading solute configuration
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues
 Initialising van der waals distances...

 WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
 based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
 from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

 Reading solvent configuration
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in 1 residues


 Is there any ways to add extra mollecules to the pre defined box ?


  Yes - but there has to be room for them.

 Mark

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[gmx-users] Adding new residues and pdb2gmx

2012-02-14 Thread Jernej Zidar
Hi.
  I've downloaded the charmm36 (gromacs-charmm36.ff_4.5.4.tgz) and
added some residues to it by editing the lipids.rtp file. I also plan
to use pdb2gmx to convert CHARMM-generated PDB files to GRO format.
The Gromacs manual suggests one should create a residuetypes.dat file
in the parent directory containing all the residues present in the RTP
files.

  After doing so I used CHARMM (using CHARMM36 lipid forcefield) to
generate the PDB of the lipid LPPC and run: pdb2gmx -f lppc.pdb -water
none -noter -ff charmm36 -v.

  pdb2gmx appears to hang (100 % usage of one computer core) at the
last line of the following messages:

Option Filename  Type Description

  -f   lppc.pdb  InputStructure file: gro g96 pdb tpr etc.
  -o   conf.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
  -p  topol.top  Output   Topology file
  -i  posre.itp  Output   Include file for topology
  -n  clean.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
  -q  clean.pdb  Output, Opt. Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
-niceint0   Set the nicelevel
-chainsepenum   id_or_ter  Condition in PDB files when a new chain and
molecule_type should be started: id_or_ter,
id_and_ter, ter, id or interactive
-ff  string charmm36  Force field, interactive by default. Use -h for
information.
-water   enum   noneWater model to use: select, none, spc, spce,
tip3p, tip4p or tip5p
-[no]inter   bool   no  Set the next 8 options to interactive
-[no]ss  bool   no  Interactive SS bridge selection
-[no]ter bool   no  Interactive termini selection, iso charged
-[no]lys bool   no  Interactive lysine selection, iso charged
-[no]arg bool   no  Interactive arginine selection, iso charged
-[no]asp bool   no  Interactive aspartic Acid selection, iso charged
-[no]glu bool   no  Interactive glutamic Acid selection, iso charged
-[no]gln bool   no  Interactive glutamine selection, iso neutral
-[no]his bool   no  Interactive histidine selection, iso checking
H-bonds
-angle   real   135 Minimum hydrogen-donor-acceptor angle for a
H-bond (degrees)
-distreal   0.3 Maximum donor-acceptor distance for a H-bond (nm)
-[no]una bool   no  Select aromatic rings with united CH atoms on
phenylalanine, tryptophane and tyrosine
-[no]ignhbool   no  Ignore hydrogen atoms that are in the coordinate
file
-[no]missing bool   no  Continue when atoms are missing, dangerous
-[no]v   bool   yes Be slightly more verbose in messages
-posrefc real   1000Force constant for position restraints
-vsite   enum   noneConvert atoms to virtual sites: none, hydrogens
or aromatics
-[no]heavyh  bool   no  Make hydrogen atoms heavy
-[no]deuterate bool no  Change the mass of hydrogens to 2 amu
-[no]chargegrp bool yes Use charge groups in the .rtp file
-[no]cmapbool   yes Use cmap torsions (if enabled in the .rtp file)
-[no]renum   bool   no  Renumber the residues consecutively in the output
-[no]rtpres  bool   no  Use .rtp entry names as residue names


Using the Charmm36 force field in directory ./charmm36.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/rna.r2b
Reading lppc.pdb...
Read 70 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 70 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 ' ' 1 70

All occupancies are one
Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1 (after that I abort the command with CTRL+C)

- - -
  The LPPC residue is present in both the ./residuetypes.dat and
./charmm36/lipids.rtp files. What's wrong? I would really like to
increase the verbosity of the pdb2gmx command but it seems the -v
switch has no/little effect.

Thanks in advance,
Jernej Zidar
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[gmx-users] How to use Buckingham potentials ?

2012-02-14 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Gromacs users,

   I am planing  to use buckingham potential
for the non-bonded interactions  of my system. I know that by changing the
nbfunc to 2 in [ defaults ] directive of topology will allow to use the
Buckingham potential , But I don't know how to specify the  A, B,C values
in the ffnonbonded.itp file.
 what values should I specify in the  [ atomtypes ]  directive . As i know
only A,B,C values for the pairs of atoms  so i have tried by  specifying
A,B,C values both in  [ atomtypes ] and  [ pairtypes ] as

[ atomtypes ]
;name   at.num mass  chargeptype
A  B  C
CC32A  6   12.011000.1030A   132277.5784
33.057851240.002710395
HCA2   1   1.00800 0.0355  A   29962.4608
41.580041580.000212547
OC30A  8   15.999400  -0.3480   A   243922.5976
40.2414486921  0.000803746
[ pairtypes ]
; i   j   func   A
BC
OC30A   OC30A   2   243922.597640.2414486921  0.000803746
OC30A   CC32A   2   179625.814436.297640653   0.001476115
OC30A   HCA22   85489.9984 40.899795501   0.000413379
CC32A   CC32A   2   132277.578433.057851240.002710395
CC32A   HCA22   62955.3928 36.832412523   0.000759396
HCA2HCA22   29962.4608 41.580041580.000212547
;### I have given the A(in KJ/mol), B(in nm^-1), C(in Kj/mol*nm^6)
;D = A, B = 1/P, C = E


Doing so , grompp is showing the following errors

   ERROR 5 [file ffnonbondedpeo.itp, line 13]:
  Too many parameters or not enough parameters for topology B


ERROR 6 [file ffnonbondedpeo.itp, line 14]:
  Too many parameters or not enough parameters for topology B

Generated 6 of the 6 non-bonded parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'polymer'

ERROR 7 [file topol.top, line 1652]:
  ERROR: The cut-off length is longer than half the shortest box vector or
  longer than the smallest box diagonal element. Increase the box size or
  decrease rlist.
--
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 1372

Fatal error:
There were 7 errors in input file
---


Any help will be highly appreciated.


Regards,
Ramesh Cheerla
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Re: [gmx-users] Npt equilibration of the membrane-mimicking CCl4 layer

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 4:45 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Mark,


due to hight density the volume of my system have been slightly 
increased and during NPT phase I've obtained error


Fatal error:
One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off 
length or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off.


I'm using 0.9 for electrostatic and 1.4 for vdw cutofs and the 
dimensions of my box was 6.5 3 3 on the initial step and 6.6 3 3.3 
before crush :)


I want prevent such expansion of my system by increasing of pressure 
and/ or compressibility but I have not found exact sollution yet.


Your system is dangerously small for those cut-offs if your initial 
density is not correct for your model physics. Your y and z dimensions 
only just contain a full cut-off sphere. You should also make sure you 
are following the advice about choice of P-coupling algorithm in manual 
3.4.9, and consider using a very small integration time step. I remain 
unconvinced by this thread that you have generated a starting 
configuration that does not have atomic clashes.


Mark




James


2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au


On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:

This also was solved by the some extra minimisation steps.


I've forced with another problem :D

During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my
desired volume and density were perturbed.

I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me

ref_p= 1 1
compressibility = 4.5e-5

 i'm using this compressibility value   because I'm modelling the
lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure. 
Could you remind me the dependence of pressure from density and

volume for liquids ? :)


Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings will
determine the equilibrium density. Whether you need to do anything
depends on whether you've made a statistically significant
post-equilibration measurement of your average density.
Haphazardly increasing the reference pressure for the coupling
will reduce the volume, but now you are simulating at that
pressure. See
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure for
background info.

Mark




James



2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com

It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for
Cl during defining of my box

Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
 than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

Fatal error:
Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs
warning threshold in your mdp file

I've never seen this before

I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
my LINKS parameters are

; Bond parameters
continuation= no; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H
bonds) constrained
lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy

How I could solve it?


James


2012/2/14 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com

Mark,

I've checked only density value

with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely
less that I need ( in accordance to the literature ).
Also I've checked my box visually and found that the box
is not properly tightly packed so I dont know why genbox
didnt add some extra mollecules :(

In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to
add some extra molecules to the pre defined box to make
my system more tighly packed  ( to short distance between
existing molecules and place new ones in the new space ) ?

James


2012/2/14 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au

On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Justin,

Firstly I've created the box of desired size with
only 500 molecules ( I need 1000)

Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by
means of Genbox

genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200
-o new_solv.gro

but no molecules have been added
Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4


... then there are no gaps large enough to insert
your molecules. Either make gaps, or check out genbox
-h for 

Re: [gmx-users] How to use Buckingham potentials ?

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 5:42 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

   I am planing  to use buckingham 
potential for the non-bonded interactions  of my system. I know that 
by changing the nbfunc to 2 in [ defaults ] directive of topology will 
allow to use the Buckingham potential , But I don't know how to 
specify the  A, B,C values in the ffnonbonded.itp file.


With [ nonbond_params], not [atomtypes] or [pairtypes]. See table 5.4 of 
section 5.7.1 of manual.


Mark

 what values should I specify in the  [ atomtypes ]  directive . As i 
know  only A,B,C values for the pairs of atoms  so i have tried by  
specifying  A,B,C values both in  [ atomtypes ] and  [ pairtypes ] as


[ atomtypes ]
;name   at.num mass  chargeptype
A  B  C
CC32A  6   12.011000.1030A   132277.5784
33.057851240.002710395
HCA2   1   1.00800 0.0355  A   29962.4608 
41.580041580.000212547
OC30A  8   15.999400  -0.3480   A   243922.5976
40.2414486921  0.000803746

[ pairtypes ]
; i   j   func   A 
BC

OC30A   OC30A   2   243922.597640.2414486921  0.000803746
OC30A   CC32A   2   179625.814436.297640653   0.001476115
OC30A   HCA22   85489.9984 40.899795501   0.000413379
CC32A   CC32A   2   132277.578433.057851240.002710395
CC32A   HCA22   62955.3928 36.832412523   0.000759396
HCA2HCA22   29962.4608 41.580041580.000212547
;### I have given the A(in KJ/mol), B(in nm^-1), C(in Kj/mol*nm^6)
;D = A, B = 1/P, C = E


Doing so , grompp is showing the following errors

   ERROR 5 [file ffnonbondedpeo.itp, line 13]:
  Too many parameters or not enough parameters for topology B


ERROR 6 [file ffnonbondedpeo.itp, line 14]:
  Too many parameters or not enough parameters for topology B

Generated 6 of the 6 non-bonded parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'polymer'

ERROR 7 [file topol.top, line 1652]:
  ERROR: The cut-off length is longer than half the shortest box vector or
  longer than the smallest box diagonal element. Increase the box size or
  decrease rlist.
--
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 1372

Fatal error:
There were 7 errors in input file
---


Any help will be highly appreciated.


Regards,
Ramesh Cheerla




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Re: [gmx-users] Adding new residues and pdb2gmx

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 5:00 PM, Jernej Zidar wrote:

Hi.
   I've downloaded the charmm36 (gromacs-charmm36.ff_4.5.4.tgz) and
added some residues to it by editing the lipids.rtp file. I also plan
to use pdb2gmx to convert CHARMM-generated PDB files to GRO format.
The Gromacs manual suggests one should create a residuetypes.dat file
in the parent directory containing all the residues present in the RTP
files.

   After doing so I used CHARMM (using CHARMM36 lipid forcefield) to
generate the PDB of the lipid LPPC and run: pdb2gmx -f lppc.pdb -water
none -noter -ff charmm36 -v.

   pdb2gmx appears to hang (100 % usage of one computer core) at the
last line of the following messages:

Option Filename  Type Description

   -f   lppc.pdb  InputStructure file: gro g96 pdb tpr etc.
   -o   conf.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
   -p  topol.top  Output   Topology file
   -i  posre.itp  Output   Include file for topology
   -n  clean.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
   -q  clean.pdb  Output, Opt. Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
-niceint0   Set the nicelevel
-chainsepenum   id_or_ter  Condition in PDB files when a new chain and
 molecule_type should be started: id_or_ter,
 id_and_ter, ter, id or interactive
-ff  string charmm36  Force field, interactive by default. Use -h for
 information.
-water   enum   noneWater model to use: select, none, spc, spce,
 tip3p, tip4p or tip5p
-[no]inter   bool   no  Set the next 8 options to interactive
-[no]ss  bool   no  Interactive SS bridge selection
-[no]ter bool   no  Interactive termini selection, iso charged
-[no]lys bool   no  Interactive lysine selection, iso charged
-[no]arg bool   no  Interactive arginine selection, iso charged
-[no]asp bool   no  Interactive aspartic Acid selection, iso charged
-[no]glu bool   no  Interactive glutamic Acid selection, iso charged
-[no]gln bool   no  Interactive glutamine selection, iso neutral
-[no]his bool   no  Interactive histidine selection, iso checking
 H-bonds
-angle   real   135 Minimum hydrogen-donor-acceptor angle for a
 H-bond (degrees)
-distreal   0.3 Maximum donor-acceptor distance for a H-bond (nm)
-[no]una bool   no  Select aromatic rings with united CH atoms on
 phenylalanine, tryptophane and tyrosine
-[no]ignhbool   no  Ignore hydrogen atoms that are in the coordinate
 file
-[no]missing bool   no  Continue when atoms are missing, dangerous
-[no]v   bool   yes Be slightly more verbose in messages
-posrefc real   1000Force constant for position restraints
-vsite   enum   noneConvert atoms to virtual sites: none, hydrogens
 or aromatics
-[no]heavyh  bool   no  Make hydrogen atoms heavy
-[no]deuterate bool no  Change the mass of hydrogens to 2 amu
-[no]chargegrp bool yes Use charge groups in the .rtp file
-[no]cmapbool   yes Use cmap torsions (if enabled in the .rtp file)
-[no]renum   bool   no  Renumber the residues consecutively in the output
-[no]rtpres  bool   no  Use .rtp entry names as residue names


Using the Charmm36 force field in directory ./charmm36.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/rna.r2b
Reading lppc.pdb...
Read 70 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 70 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' ' 1 70

All occupancies are one
Opening force field file ./charmm36.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1 (after that I abort the command with CTRL+C)

- - -
   The LPPC residue is present in both the ./residuetypes.dat and
./charmm36/lipids.rtp files. What's wrong? I would really like to
increase the verbosity of the pdb2gmx command but it seems the -v
switch has no/little effect.



The most likely explanation is that you've not followed a file format 
somehow. A blank line at the end of a file you've modified might be 
required. If you've edited using some broken editor, dos2unix might be 
your friend.


Check the original charmm36 forcefield works on some simple protein 
case. Then check that case works with your modified forcefield.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Question regarding freeze groups and their use

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 5:09 AM, J. Nathan Scott wrote:

Hi all,

I know there has been a *lot* of discussion on the mailing list on
using freezegrps and potential pitfalls, but after having read much of
this discussion the past couple of days and the manual I still find
myself with questions and problems I'm hoping someone can help with.

What I want to do, specifically, is have my protein frozen (*not* just
constrained with some large force, I need actual freezing of every
protein atom) but have the solvent still react to the frozen protein.
The purpose behind this is to compare the water behavior near a
particular part of a protein when it is dynamic and when it is not and
thereby learn something about the communication between protein and
solvent in this case. However, it seems that I'm not finding a
rational set of mdp options to allow this, at least not a set for
which dynamics will run with any speed. I have tried many of the
things people have discussed on the mailing list, including turning
off constraints, turning off pressure coupling, reducing the Protein
heat bath temperature to 0 K, and using energygrp_excl. Here are the
parameters I just tried:


integrator  = md
nsteps  = 100
dt  = 0.001
nstxout = 1
nstvout = 1
nstxtcout   = 1
nstenergy   = 1
nstlog  = 1
continuation= yes
constraints = none


dt = 0.0005 is normally used when there are no constraints.


ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist   = 1.0
rcoulomb= 1.0
rvdw= 1.0
coulombtype = PME
pme_order   = 4
fourierspacing  = 0.16
tcoupl  = V-rescale
tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein
tau_t   = 0.1   0.1
ref_t   = 0   300
pcoupl  = no
pbc = xyz
DispCorr= EnerPres
gen_vel = no
freezegrps  = Protein
freezedim   = Y Y Y
;;;

This ran, but *incredibly* slowly (I'm using a single 32 processor
node, and only got 255 steps in 10 wallclock minutes). From the
discussions I've read on the mailing list it seems that PME is
somewhat less than ideal for simulations involving frozen atoms, but I
used PME for electrostatics in my non-frozen simulations and would
like to keep that consistent if possible (I do get a grompp warning of
course). I am also getting warnings in the log file like: DD  step
254  vol min/aver 0.183! load imb.: force 2395.3%  pme mesh/force
1.243 which I believe must be due to the frozen protein causing
difficulties with domain decomposition.

Can anyone offer any advice regarding these issues? I know this has
been discussed often, but nothing I'm finding in the archives is
particularly relevant.


Allowing a run to complete and inspecting the timing breakdown at the 
end of the .log file might be instructive. Manual 7.3.24 suggests the 
use of energy group exclusions.


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[gmx-users] pdo making

2012-02-14 Thread parto haghighi
Dear all
I am caculating delta G by umbrella sampling with position pull in
gromacs 4.5.after doing all of the steps when I want to use g_wham:
g_wham -it tpr_files.dat -if pullf_files.dat -o -hist
I have this error:
found pull geometry position and more than 1 pull dimension(3)
and it wants pdo files to do this analysis but I can not find any
option -pd in this version of gromacs in mdrun command.
What can I do to make pdo file in this version of gromacs?
Thank  you in progress
Parto Haghighi
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Re: [gmx-users] what does the Coulomb (SR) mean under PME?

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/02/2012 2:46 AM, Qiao Baofu wrote:

Hi all,

Anybody can help me out! Thanks in advance?

In my test simulation, there are one Na^+ and one Cl^- (the distance 
of 1nm) in vacuum in a very big simulation box (10*10*10 nm^3). I 
calculated the energies under two different conditions, 
coulombtype=PME vs coulombtype=cut-off.

1. coulombtype=PME
Coul. recip.   -139.191 --  0  0  
(kJ/mol)

Coul-SR:NA-CL *-0.0322805* --  0  0  (kJ/mol)
LJ-SR:NA-CL  -0.00100285 --  0  0  
(kJ/mol)

2. coulombtype=cut-off
Coul-SR:NA-CL *-138.935* --  0  0  (kJ/mol)
LJ-SR:NA-CL  -0.00100285 --  0  0  
(kJ/mol)


I did some calculations. Under coulombtype=cut-off, E(Coul-SR) = 
f*e_i*e_j/r with f=138.935, which is what I expect.
However under coulombtype=PME, how does Gromacs get the value of 
-0.0322805kJ/mol for *SR* term? If I understand it correctly, SR 
means short-range, which is within the cut-off distance. Since the 
cut-off distance (1.2nm here) is much smaller than the simulation box 
length (10nm), there is not short-range interaction with the image box.


Your two atoms are within the cut-off distance, so their interaction 
contributes to Coul-SR:NA-CL. The total energy for that interaction is 
distributed over the Coul-SR and Coul. recip terms (which is how PME 
works...), which you will note is approximately equal to Coul-SR for 
coulombtype cut-off.


By construction, your periodic images are too far away to contribute to 
this term in either case (and you'd have been prevented by grompp from 
getting this far, if that were not true).




Some details:
Gromacs 4.5.5
PBC is used.
distance of Na^+ and Cl^-: 1nm
Na^+ and Cl^- are frozen in XYZ dimensions.
Only 1 step is run.


Using mdrun -rerun is often the best way to calculate single-point 
energies/forces.


Mark
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