[gmx-users] on g_rms analysis

2012-04-10 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear All,
 
Suppose I have done a 5-ns production MD, I want to analysis the rmsd from 1 to 
3 ns, will you please tell me the corresponding g_rms command?
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: [gmx-users] on g_rms analysis

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2012 4:59 PM, Acoot Brett wrote:

Dear All,
Suppose I have done a 5-ns production MD, I want to analysis the rmsd 
from 1 to 3 ns, will you please tell me the corresponding g_rms command?


g_rms has options that allow you to select the start and finish time for 
the analysis. Look them up for yourself in g_rms -h. This existence of 
this mailing list is not an excuse for avoiding attempting to find your 
own solutions. You want people to be still willing to help you when you 
run into a problem that is not just a simple exercise in reading the 
available documentation :-)


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread pithevenet


Here is what I have done:

First, I created the .gro file with the command line: 

pdb2gmx  -f test.pdb  -o test.gro  -p test.top -ignh -missing


Then, I added at the end of my test.top file the following lines (I double 
checked the atom numbers):

[ distance_restraints ]
; ai aj type index type' low up1 up2 fac
  37 140 1   0 1 0.19 0.21 0.22 1

then, I done: 

editconf -f test.gro -o test-box.gro -d 2.0 -c -bt cubic

grompp -c test-box.gro -p test.top -o test-min.tpr -f test-em.mdp

mdrun -s test-min.tpr -c test-min.gro -deffnm test-min -v -nice 0


and finally get my new pdb file with:

editconf -f test-min.gro -o test-min.pdb

But it didn't seemed it had make the two sufur atom closer than if I didn't add 
the distance_restrain in the top file.

Did I do something wrong?

Thank You.


Pierre THEVENET



Pierre THEVENET wrote:
 Thank you for your help, I tried to do as indicated in the link to send 
 to me, but it seems that it didn't change anything. Could you show me an 
 example, to better understand what I am doing wrong?
 

It would be better for you to show us what you tried, along with whatever 
evidence suggests the restraints didn't work.  There are several examples 
provided in the manual, so the only things I would post as examples are already 
available.

-Justin

 Thank you
 
 Pierre THEVENET
 
 
 Le 06/04/2012 17:19, Justin A. Lemkul a écrit :


 pitheve...@free.fr wrote:
 Dear gmx users,

 I try to use gmx to make some minimization. Unfortunatly, I have some SS
 bonds which are not formed in my PDB because the S-S atoms are too 
 far away
 to connect to each other. I saw at that page :
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Making_Disulfide_Bonds 
 that it
 is possible to force GROMACS to make bonds with sulfur atoms by adding a
 distant constrains between the atoms.


 Note that constraints and restraints are different.

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Constraints_and_Restraints 


 But I didn't understand in which file it should be inserted and at which
 step. Can you help me?


 If you want to restrain S-S distances to force a more amenable 
 geometry for disulfide formation, what you need are distance 
 restraints in the .top:

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Distance_Restraints

 Refer to the manual section and figures cited on that page for more 
 information.

 -Justin

 

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[gmx-users] Problem with g_dipoles and SPCE water

2012-04-10 Thread Tom Kirchner

Hi all,

I want to test the g_dipoles tool and made a 20 ns simulation with SPC/E 
water. Sadly the result for the dielectric constant (e_sim=109.713) 
looks very different from experimental (e_exp=78) and reported values 
for SPCE (e_paper=70). I put the command line and the output below.


Gromacs 4.5.3, SPC/E water, 20ns, NPT, 300K, 1bar

g_dipoles -corr total -c dipoles -f md_20ns.xtc -s md_20ns.tpr -b 0 -e 2

#==

Using 5 as mu_max and -1 as the dipole moment.
WARNING: EpsilonRF = 0.0, this really means EpsilonRF = infinity
Selected 0: 'System'
There are 1024 molecules in the selection
Using Volume from topology: 30.2049 nm3
Average volume over run is 30.2103
t0 0, t 2, teller 10001

Dipole moment (Debye)
-
Average  =   2.4883  Std. Dev. =   0.1342  Error =   0.

The following averages for the complete trajectory have been calculated:

  Total  M_x  = 1.45986 Debye
  Total  M_y  = 5.71202 Debye
  Total  M_z  = 3.39196 Debye

  Total  M_x2= 10964.8 Debye2
  Total  M_y2= 10794.4 Debye2
  Total  M_z2= 10762.4 Debye2

  Total  |M|^2  = 32521.6 Debye2
  Total |  M|^2 = 46.2638 Debye2

  |M|^2  - |  M|^2 = 32475.4 Debye2

Finite system Kirkwood g factor G_k = 5.12208
Infinite system Kirkwood g factor g_k = 3.43028

Epsilon = 109.713

#==

I would be really grateful if anybody could point me to my error. I
attached my .mdp file in case the error lies there.

Best regards
Tom


;== run control ===
integrator  = md
tinit   = 0 
dt  = 0.002 ; time step [ps]
nsteps  = 1000  ; number of steps
comm_mode   = Linear; Remove center of mass translation
nstcomm = 10; reset c.o.m. motion

;== Output control ===
nstxout = 1000  ; write coords
nstvout = 1000  ; write velocities
nstfout = 0 ; do NOT write forces 

nstlog  = 1000  ; print to logfile
nstenergy   = 1000

nstxtcout   = 1000  ; write coords to xtc-trajectory file
xtc-precision   = 1000

;== Neighborsearching and short-range nonbonded interactions
nstlist = 10; update pairlist
ns_type = grid  ; pairlist method
pbc = xyz   ; periodic boundary conditions
rlist   = 1.3   ; cut-off for neighborsearching - rlist 
= rvdw+ (0.1 till 0.3)

;== Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 1.3   ; cut-off for coulomb - rcoulomb = rlist
fourierspacing  = 0.112 ; nm
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-05
optimize_fft= no
epsilon_surface = 0

;== dispersion correction
dispcorr= EnerPres

;== Van der Waals
vdw-type= shift ; switch
rvdw_switch = 0.9
rvdw= 1.0   ; cut-off for vdw

;== OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS ===
Tcoupl  =  v-rescale; temperature coupling 
(v-rescale)
tc-grps =  System 
ref_t   =  298.15 
tau_t   =  1.0
Pcoupl  =  berendsen; pressure bath (berendsen)
Pcoupltype  =  isotropic; pressure geometry
tau_p   =  1.0  ; p-coupoling time
compressibility =  4.5e-5   
ref_p   =  1.01325 

;== GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
gen_vel =  yes  ; generate initial velocities
gen_temp=  298.15   ; initial temperature
gen_seed=  -1   ; random seed
continuation=  no   ; since we came from nvt simulation

;== OPTIONS FOR BONDS ===   
constraints = h-bonds
constraint_algorithm= lincs
shake_tol   = 0.1
lincs_order = 4
lincs_warnangle = 30
morse   = no
lincs_iter  = 2
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with g_dipoles and SPCE water

2012-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-04-10 09:43, Tom Kirchner wrote:

Hi all,

I want to test the g_dipoles tool and made a 20 ns simulation with SPC/E
water. Sadly the result for the dielectric constant (e_sim=109.713)
looks very different from experimental (e_exp=78) and reported values
for SPCE (e_paper=70). I put the command line and the output below.


Did you run the simulation with PME or at the very least RF?



Gromacs 4.5.3, SPC/E water, 20ns, NPT, 300K, 1bar

g_dipoles -corr total -c dipoles -f md_20ns.xtc -s md_20ns.tpr -b 0 -e 2

You don't need the corr flag for computing the dielectric constant.



#==

Using 5 as mu_max and -1 as the dipole moment.
WARNING: EpsilonRF = 0.0, this really means EpsilonRF = infinity
Selected 0: 'System'
There are 1024 molecules in the selection
Using Volume from topology: 30.2049 nm3
Average volume over run is 30.2103
t0 0, t 2, teller 10001

Dipole moment (Debye)
-
Average  =   2.4883  Std. Dev. =   0.1342  Error =   0.

The following averages for the complete trajectory have been calculated:

   Total  M_x  = 1.45986 Debye
   Total  M_y  = 5.71202 Debye
   Total  M_z  = 3.39196 Debye

   Total  M_x2= 10964.8 Debye2
   Total  M_y2= 10794.4 Debye2
   Total  M_z2= 10762.4 Debye2

   Total  |M|^2  = 32521.6 Debye2
   Total |  M|^2 = 46.2638 Debye2

  |M|^2  - |  M|^2 = 32475.4 Debye2

Finite system Kirkwood g factor G_k = 5.12208
Infinite system Kirkwood g factor g_k = 3.43028

Epsilon = 109.713

#==

I would be really grateful if anybody could point me to my error. I
attached my .mdp file in case the error lies there.

Best regards
Tom







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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with g_dipoles and SPCE water

2012-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-04-10 09:57, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2012-04-10 09:43, Tom Kirchner wrote:

Hi all,

I want to test the g_dipoles tool and made a 20 ns simulation with SPC/E
water. Sadly the result for the dielectric constant (e_sim=109.713)
looks very different from experimental (e_exp=78) and reported values
for SPCE (e_paper=70). I put the command line and the output below.


Did you run the simulation with PME or at the very least RF?



Gromacs 4.5.3, SPC/E water, 20ns, NPT, 300K, 1bar

g_dipoles -corr total -c dipoles -f md_20ns.xtc -s md_20ns.tpr -b 0 -e
2

You don't need the corr flag for computing the dielectric constant.



#==

Using 5 as mu_max and -1 as the dipole moment.
WARNING: EpsilonRF = 0.0, this really means EpsilonRF = infinity
Selected 0: 'System'
There are 1024 molecules in the selection
Using Volume from topology: 30.2049 nm3
Average volume over run is 30.2103
t0 0, t 2, teller 10001

Dipole moment (Debye)
-
Average = 2.4883 Std. Dev. = 0.1342 Error = 0.


Another point: the literature value of the dielectric constant for SPC/E 
is for the rigid model. Looks like your using a flexible model here.





The following averages for the complete trajectory have been calculated:

Total M_x = 1.45986 Debye
Total M_y = 5.71202 Debye
Total M_z = 3.39196 Debye

Total M_x2  = 10964.8 Debye2
Total M_y2  = 10794.4 Debye2
Total M_z2  = 10762.4 Debye2

Total |M|^2 = 32521.6 Debye2
Total | M|^2 = 46.2638 Debye2

 |M|^2 - | M|^2 = 32475.4 Debye2

Finite system Kirkwood g factor G_k = 5.12208
Infinite system Kirkwood g factor g_k = 3.43028

Epsilon = 109.713

#==

I would be really grateful if anybody could point me to my error. I
attached my .mdp file in case the error lies there.

Best regards
Tom










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[gmx-users] martini coarse-grained

2012-04-10 Thread dina dusti
Dear GROMACS Specialists,

I have doubt about definition of tiofen ring in MARTINI CG force field. May I 
ask you to help me, Please?
I defined if as: SC4 and SC5, that SC5 is as S-C-C and SC4 is as C-C. Is it 
right?
Or should I change SC5 to C-S-C for .gro file?
And my definition of tiofen in .itp file it is as followed , Please say me that 
is it right?


;;  TIOFEN

[moleculetype]
; molname   nrexcl
  TIO         1

[atoms]
; id    type    resnr   residu  atom    cgnr    charge
  1     SC4     1 TIO     SI1     1     0 
  2     SC5     1 TIO     SI2    2     0 

[constraints]
; i j   funct   length
  1 2     1     0.27

Because I for benzene see a triangle in ngmx program, but for this see a line. 
Please help me to correction of mistakes.
Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Simulation in the high temperature conditions

2012-04-10 Thread James Starlight
Justin,

Could you tell me for what purposes the definition of the several ref_t
values could be usefull? Does this just for measurements of the temperature
during simulation for each group separately or is there something else?


By the way as I've found in literature another important question about
such simulation in high temperature conditions is the selection of the
integrator algorithm wich also could enhanse sampling under this
conditions.  E.g I've found that the BD integrator could be more usefull
than leap-frog MD. What timestep and other importnat options defined in mdp
should be tken into account within simulation with BD ? I've never perform
simulations with this integrator and could not realise how it could enhanse
simulation rate in comparison to the MD and what artifacts should expect
from that :)


James

9 апреля 2012 г. 22:31 пользователь Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.eduнаписал:



 James Starlight wrote:

 Mark,





Assuming you're raising your temperature during equilibration and
then running at high temperature, then you don't want water moving
into the receptor interior during equilibration for the same reason
you didn't want water moving into the CCl4. And you're going to run
further equilibration after taking off all the restraints anyway,
right? And if water moves into the receptor interior, then it
probably does that under high-temperature equilibrium conditions...


 It is that I want to prevent movement of water into Ccl4 layer (that is
 drive by the increased temperature and have not been present in the natural
 conditions) but allow it to move into the receptor interiour ( that is
 normally observed experimentally). So the posres application may prevent
 water to move both into the receptor and Ccl4 so this aproach could not be
 useful in my case, couldn't it ?




 No, it wouldn't.  I don't understand why you believe some water absolutely
 can't leak into the CCl4 layer, at least transiently.  If you're getting
 massive mixing, then that's a problem for which I don't know a clear
 solution in this case.  Occasional leakage is not unexpected, as it even
 occurs in lipid bilayers.  True, water and CCl4 are not particularly
 miscible, but to say that they should remain 100% isolated in reality is
 not correct.




On point, the reference temperature has little to do with whether
phases diffuse into (or out of) each other, and lots to do with what
ensemble you might be sampling. The actual temperature controls the
rate of such diffusion, of course, but if the non-bonded
interactions allow for intermixing, then you'll get some degree of
that regardless of any other setting. You'd be well advised to check
that your CCl4-water boundary behaves acceptably before you invest
in the protein simulation...


 Specifically I've desided to rise temperature of my system to increase
 conformation sampling of the protein surrounded of the interiour. For this
 I've devided my system on several parts to couple to separate thermostates.
 One part is the protein and CCl4 layer wich mimick the membrane and another
 part is the sorrounded water ( SOL), internal water ( wich may present in
 the protein interiour transitory but never in the Ccl4 layer) and IONS (
 wich are always in the SOL layer). In order that increase the rate of
 conformation sampling I've gradually increased ref_t of each t_group. In
 part this result in evaporation of water and some of that water has moved
 in Ccl4 layer. So its intresting for me might  I set ref_t for water_ions
 group as the specified value ( ref_t= 310 k) and gradually increase only
 ref_t for the protein_ccl4 group in the annealing manner. As the
 consequence I want to prevent evaporation of the water but maintain of the
 overal temperature high of my system tp increase sampling of the protein
 conformation ?

 I inderstand that such aproach is very unphysical but aplication of the
 posres and other tricks are from this theme but works good in some cases :)



 This sounds really fishy to me.  Coupling different parts of a system to
 thermostats at different temperatures just begs for artifacts.  The use of
 thermostats for separate parts of the system, even at the same temperature,
 is questionable since you violate energy conservation.  Of course, for many
 cases, they're a necessity and we just go ahead with it ;)  If you've got
 two parts of a system in thermal disequilibrium, then you've got a very odd
 system with thermostats exchanging different amounts of energy with
 different portions of the system.  I don't know how to predict the effects
 of such a setup, but I don't recall having seen anything like this done
 before.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with g_dipoles and SPCE water

2012-04-10 Thread Tom Kirchner

On 04/10/2012 11:10 AM, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

On 2012-04-10 09:57, David van der Spoel wrote:

  On 2012-04-10 09:43, Tom Kirchner wrote:

  Hi all,

  I want to test the g_dipoles tool and made a 20 ns simulation with SPC/E
  water. Sadly the result for the dielectric constant (e_sim=109.713)
  looks very different from experimental (e_exp=78) and reported values
  for SPCE (e_paper=70). I put the command line and the output below.


  Did you run the simulation with PME or at the very least RF?



  Gromacs 4.5.3, SPC/E water, 20ns, NPT, 300K, 1bar

  g_dipoles -corr total -c dipoles -f md_20ns.xtc -s md_20ns.tpr -b 0 -e
  2

  You don't need the corr flag for computing the dielectric constant.



  #==

  Using 5 as mu_max and -1 as the dipole moment.
  WARNING: EpsilonRF = 0.0, this really means EpsilonRF = infinity
  Selected 0: 'System'
  There are 1024 molecules in the selection
  Using Volume from topology: 30.2049 nm3
  Average volume over run is 30.2103
  t0 0, t 2, teller 10001

  Dipole moment (Debye)
  -
  Average = 2.4883 Std. Dev. = 0.1342 Error = 0.

Another point: the literature value of the dielectric constant for SPC/E
is for the rigid model. Looks like your using a flexible model here.




  The following averages for the complete trajectory have been calculated:

  Total  M_x  = 1.45986 Debye
  Total  M_y  = 5.71202 Debye
  Total  M_z  = 3.39196 Debye

  Total  M_x2  = 10964.8 Debye2
  Total  M_y2  = 10794.4 Debye2
  Total  M_z2  = 10762.4 Debye2

  Total  |M|^2  = 32521.6 Debye2
  Total |  M|^2 = 46.2638 Debye2

|M|^2  - |  M|^2 = 32475.4 Debye2

  Finite system Kirkwood g factor G_k = 5.12208
  Infinite system Kirkwood g factor g_k = 3.43028

  Epsilon = 109.713

  #==

  I would be really grateful if anybody could point me to my error. I
  attached my .mdp file in case the error lies there.

  Best regards
  Tom








-- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology

Thank you for your reply,

I used the rigid model. I also used PME, I think this is the error, for 
g_dipoles seems to be constructed for reaction field. Is this correct?

I'll redo the simulation with reaction field now.

Best
Tom Kirchner
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with g_dipoles and SPCE water

2012-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-04-10 11:16, Tom Kirchner wrote:

On 04/10/2012 11:10 AM, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

On 2012-04-10 09:57, David van der Spoel wrote:

  On 2012-04-10 09:43, Tom Kirchner wrote:

  Hi all,

  I want to test the g_dipoles tool and made a 20 ns simulation with SPC/E
  water. Sadly the result for the dielectric constant (e_sim=109.713)
  looks very different from experimental (e_exp=78) and reported values
  for SPCE (e_paper=70). I put the command line and the output below.


  Did you run the simulation with PME or at the very least RF?



  Gromacs 4.5.3, SPC/E water, 20ns, NPT, 300K, 1bar

  g_dipoles -corr total -c dipoles -f md_20ns.xtc -s md_20ns.tpr -b 0 -e
  2

  You don't need the corr flag for computing the dielectric constant.



  #==

  Using 5 as mu_max and -1 as the dipole moment.
  WARNING: EpsilonRF = 0.0, this really means EpsilonRF = infinity
  Selected 0: 'System'
  There are 1024 molecules in the selection
  Using Volume from topology: 30.2049 nm3
  Average volume over run is 30.2103
  t0 0, t 2, teller 10001

  Dipole moment (Debye)
  -
  Average = 2.4883 Std. Dev. = 0.1342 Error = 0.

Another point: the literature value of the dielectric constant for SPC/E
is for the rigid model. Looks like your using a flexible model here.




  The following averages for the complete trajectory have been calculated:

  Total  M_x  = 1.45986 Debye
  Total  M_y  = 5.71202 Debye
  Total  M_z  = 3.39196 Debye

  Total  M_x2  = 10964.8 Debye2
  Total  M_y2  = 10794.4 Debye2
  Total  M_z2  = 10762.4 Debye2

  Total  |M|^2  = 32521.6 Debye2
  Total |  M|^2 = 46.2638 Debye2

|M|^2  - |  M|^2 = 32475.4 Debye2

  Finite system Kirkwood g factor G_k = 5.12208
  Infinite system Kirkwood g factor g_k = 3.43028

  Epsilon = 109.713

  #==

  I would be really grateful if anybody could point me to my error. I
  attached my .mdp file in case the error lies there.

  Best regards
  Tom








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Thank you for your reply,

I used the rigid model. I also used PME, I think this is the error, for
g_dipoles seems to be constructed for reaction field. Is this correct?
I'll redo the simulation with reaction field now.

Best
Tom Kirchner


No! g_dipoles does not care. You may have a remnant command in your mdp 
file (-DFLEXIBLE), please remove it. For  rigid model there should not 
be any fluctations in the dipole.


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[gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

It is 1st time I came across such problem. While preparing my NPT
simulation before umbrella samping:

grompp -f npt_umbrella.mdp -c conf0.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o
npt0.tpr

An input file contains a line longer than 4095 characters, while the buffer
passed to fgets2 has size 4095. The line starts with: '20s'

Its not about the files in bad format as I have never had this problem  - I
am using Gromacs 4.5.4 installed on the cluster, I am using PuTTy shell. I
always use dos2gmx ibefore processing.

Can you advise?

Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi Steven,

you might have to remove files with weird names (such as ._name) in the 
directory where you run
grompp or in your forcefield directory. 

Carsten


On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,
  
 It is 1st time I came across such problem. While preparing my NPT simulation 
 before umbrella samping:
  
 grompp -f npt_umbrella.mdp -c conf0.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o npt0.tpr
  
 An input file contains a line longer than 4095 characters, while the buffer 
 passed to fgets2 has size 4095. The line starts with: '20s'
  
 Its not about the files in bad format as I have never had this problem  - I 
 am using Gromacs 4.5.4 installed on the cluster, I am using PuTTy shell. I 
 always use dos2gmx ibefore processing.
  
 Can you advise?
  
 Steven
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you for the reply. I do not have such files in my directory or in my
force field.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:

 Hi Steven,

 you might have to remove files with weird names (such as ._name) in the
 directory where you run
 grompp or in your forcefield directory.

 Carsten


 On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,
 
  It is 1st time I came across such problem. While preparing my NPT
 simulation before umbrella samping:
 
  grompp -f npt_umbrella.mdp -c conf0.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o
 npt0.tpr
 
  An input file contains a line longer than 4095 characters, while the
 buffer passed to fgets2 has size 4095. The line starts with: '20s'
 
  Its not about the files in bad format as I have never had this problem
  - I am using Gromacs 4.5.4 installed on the cluster, I am using PuTTy
 shell. I always use dos2gmx ibefore processing.
 
  Can you advise?
 
  Steven
 
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[gmx-users] Gromacs on HPC workstations ?

2012-04-10 Thread Jonathan KHAO
Hi, 

I'm currently looking for hardware solutions to run MDs and would like to
benefit from your experience concerning the hardware. It would mainly be
simulations in the range of several thousands of CPU hours, and occasionally
for hundreds of K hours (paralleled on 64 to 256 nodes max). 

There's a link of Erik Lindahl's Building Clusters on gromacs website, but
it's now 5 years old and the balance between pros and cons of having a rack
vs a workstations might have considerately changed (thinking about 16-core
interlagos chips allowing to have 64-cores on a single workstation). Also,
with the increasing availability of HPC cloud computing resources,
choosing between an inhouse cluster and the cloud solution can be difficult. 

So any advice concerning the use of HPC workstations (stability,
performance, cost compared to clusters) or commercial cloud solutions would
be greatly appreciated ! 

Thanks in advance, 

Jonathan.

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Re: [gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-04-10 12:02, Steven Neumann wrote:

Thank you for the reply. I do not have such files in my directory or in
my force field.

did you mean dos2unix?

try:
wc grompp.mdp
to count the number of lines. There should be may.
In fact grompp probably tells you which input file is erroneous, doesn't 
it?


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de
mailto:ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:

Hi Steven,

you might have to remove files with weird names (such as ._name) in
the directory where you run
grompp or in your forcefield directory.

Carsten


On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,
 
  It is 1st time I came across such problem. While preparing my NPT
simulation before umbrella samping:
 
  grompp -f npt_umbrella.mdp -c conf0.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx
-o npt0.tpr
 
  An input file contains a line longer than 4095 characters, while
the buffer passed to fgets2 has size 4095. The line starts with: '20s'
 
  Its not about the files in bad format as I have never had this
problem  - I am using Gromacs 4.5.4 installed on the cluster, I am
using PuTTy shell. I always use dos2gmx ibefore processing.
 
  Can you advise?
 
  Steven
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Neumann
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:28 AM, David van der Spoel
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote:

 On 2012-04-10 12:02, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you for the reply. I do not have such files in my directory or in
 my force field.

 did you mean dos2unix?

 try:
 wc grompp.mdp
 to count the number of lines. There should be may.
 In fact grompp probably tells you which input file is erroneous, doesn't
 it?


It does not provide the information which file is this. I checked every
file with wc -L and it does not exceed 100.
However I read that creating gurgle.dat - empty file may solve it. When I
did it and process grmpp:

Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'
Generated 67161 of the 67161 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 49536 of the 67161 1-4 parameter combinations
WARNING: File is empty
*** glibc detected *** grompp: double free or corruption (!prev):
0x01cf0480 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x30fc675296]
/lib64/libc.so.6(fclose+0x14d)[0x30fc665a1d]
grompp[0x5a5952]
grompp[0x59ba29]
grompp[0x5a67bd]
grompp[0x5a661f]
grompp[0x5cb798]
grompp[0x5a7184]
grompp[0x41fd8c]
grompp[0x41fa38]
grompp[0x408a8d]
grompp[0x405422]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd)[0x30fc61ecdd]
grompp[0x404eaa]
=== Memory map: 
0040-00756000 r-xp  00:1f 107224920
/apps/gromacs/4.5.4/bin/grompp
00855000-00865000 rwxp 00355000 00:1f 107224920
/apps/gromacs/4.5.4/bin/grompp
00865000-00894000 rwxp  00:00 0
01cde000-020a3000 rwxp  00:00 0
[heap]
30fbe0-30fbe2 r-xp  08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so
30fc01f000-30fc02 r-xp 0001f000 08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so
30fc02-30fc021000 rwxp 0002 08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so
30fc021000-30fc022000 rwxp  00:00 0
30fc20-30fc202000 r-xp  08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so
30fc202000-30fc402000 ---p 2000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so
30fc402000-30fc403000 r-xp 2000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so
30fc403000-30fc404000 rwxp 3000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so
30fc60-30fc786000 r-xp  08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so
30fc786000-30fc986000 ---p 00186000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so
30fc986000-30fc98a000 r-xp 00186000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so
30fc98a000-30fc98b000 rwxp 0018a000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so
30fc98b000-30fc99 rwxp  00:00 0
30fca0-30fca17000 r-xp  08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so
30fca17000-30fcc16000 ---p 00017000 08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so
30fcc16000-30fcc17000 r-xp 00016000 08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so
30fcc17000-30fcc18000 rwxp 00017000 08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so
30fcc18000-30fcc1c000 rwxp  00:00 0
30fce0-30fce83000 r-xp  08:01 558867
/lib64/libm-2.12.so
30fce83000-30fd082000 ---p 00083000 08:01 558867
/lib64/libm-2.12.so
30fd082000-30fd083000 r-xp 00082000 08:01 558867
/lib64/libm-2.12.so
30fd083000-30fd084000 rwxp 00083000 08:01 558867
/lib64/libm-2.12.so
30fd20-30fd215000 r-xp  08:01 558866
/lib64/libz.so.1.2.3
30fd215000-30fd414000 ---p 00015000 08:01 558866
/lib64/libz.so.1.2.3
30fd414000-30fd415000 r-xp 00014000 08:01 558866
/lib64/libz.so.1.2.3
30fd415000-30fd416000 rwxp 00015000 08:01 558866
/lib64/libz.so.1.2.3
30fd60-30fd607000 r-xp  08:01 558859
/lib64/librt-2.12.so
30fd607000-30fd806000 ---p 7000 08:01 558859
/lib64/librt-2.12.so
30fd806000-30fd807000 r-xp 6000 08:01 558859
/lib64/librt-2.12.so
30fd807000-30fd808000 rwxp 7000 08:01 558859
/lib64/librt-2.12.so
30fe60-30fe616000 r-xp  08:01 558868
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30fe616000-30fe815000 ---p 00016000 08:01 558868
/lib64/libgcc_s-4.4.6-20110824.so.1
30fe815000-30fe816000 rwxp 00015000 08:01 558868
/lib64/libgcc_s-4.4.6-20110824.so.1
310620-3106347000 r-xp  08:01 738508
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2.7.6
3106347000-3106546000 ---p 00147000 08:01 738508
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2.7.6
3106546000-310655 rwxp 00146000 08:01 738508
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2.7.6
310655-3106551000 rwxp  00:00 0
310d60-310d616000 r-xp  08:01 558894
/lib64/libnsl-2.12.so
310d616000-310d815000 ---p 00016000 08:01 558894
/lib64/libnsl-2.12.so
310d815000-310d816000 r-xp 00015000 08:01 558894
/lib64/libnsl-2.12.so
310d816000-310d817000 rwxp 00016000 08:01 558894
/lib64/libnsl-2.12.so
310d817000-310d819000 rwxp  00:00 0
2b3cd1d8b000-2b3cd1d9e000 rwxp  00:00 0
2b3cd1dad000-2b3cd1dae000 rwxp  00:00 0
2b3cd1dae000-2b3cd202 r-xp  00:1f 91899538
/apps/intel/fc/9.1.045/lib/libimf.so
2b3cd202-2b3cd211f000 ---p 00272000 00:1f 91899538
/apps/intel/fc/9.1.045/lib/libimf.so
2b3cd211f000-2b3cd2124000 rwxp 00271000 00:1f 91899538
/apps/intel/fc/9.1.045/lib/libimf.so
2b3cd2124000-2b3cd2125000 rwxp  00:00 0
2b3cd2125000-2b3cd230a000 r-xp  00:1f 92286570
/apps/intel/ict/mpi/3.1.038/lib64/libmpi.so.3.2
2b3cd230a000-2b3cd240a000 ---p 001e5000 00:1f 

Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



pitheve...@free.fr wrote:


Here is what I have done:

First, I created the .gro file with the command line: 


pdb2gmx  -f test.pdb  -o test.gro  -p test.top -ignh -missing


Then, I added at the end of my test.top file the following lines (I double 
checked the atom numbers):

[ distance_restraints ]
; ai aj type index type' low up1 up2 fac
  37 140 1   0 1 0.19 0.21 0.22 1

then, I done: 


editconf -f test.gro -o test-box.gro -d 2.0 -c -bt cubic

grompp -c test-box.gro -p test.top -o test-min.tpr -f test-em.mdp

mdrun -s test-min.tpr -c test-min.gro -deffnm test-min -v -nice 0


and finally get my new pdb file with:

editconf -f test-min.gro -o test-min.pdb

But it didn't seemed it had make the two sufur atom closer than if I didn't add 
the distance_restrain in the top file.

Did I do something wrong?



Simple energy minimization is unlikely to give rise to the structural changes 
you need to bring these atoms close together.  Running a short MD simulation may 
work, though if the atoms are very far apart and you force them together 
quickly, you may have stability issues.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Error: 4095 characters, fgets2 has size 4095

2012-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-04-10 12:38, Steven Neumann wrote:



On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:28 AM, David van der Spoel
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

On 2012-04-10 12:02, Steven Neumann wrote:

Thank you for the reply. I do not have such files in my
directory or in
my force field.

did you mean dos2unix?

try:
wc grompp.mdp
to count the number of lines. There should be may.
In fact grompp probably tells you which input file is erroneous,
doesn't it?

It does not provide the information which file is this. I checked every
file with wc -L and it does not exceed 100.
However I read that creating gurgle.dat - empty file may solve it. When
I did it and process grmpp:


weird. On what kind of machine are you running?
Did you do
source PATHTOGROMACS/bin/GMXRC
?


Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'
Generated 67161 of the 67161 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 49536 of the 67161 1-4 parameter combinations
WARNING: File is empty
*** glibc detected *** grompp: double free or corruption (!prev):
0x01cf0480 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x30fc675296]
/lib64/libc.so.6(fclose+0x14d)[0x30fc665a1d]
grompp[0x5a5952]
grompp[0x59ba29]
grompp[0x5a67bd]
grompp[0x5a661f]
grompp[0x5cb798]
grompp[0x5a7184]
grompp[0x41fd8c]
grompp[0x41fa38]
grompp[0x408a8d]
grompp[0x405422]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd)[0x30fc61ecdd]
grompp[0x404eaa]
=== Memory map: 
0040-00756000 r-xp  00:1f 107224920
/apps/gromacs/4.5.4/bin/grompp
00855000-00865000 rwxp 00355000 00:1f 107224920
/apps/gromacs/4.5.4/bin/grompp
00865000-00894000 rwxp  00:00 0
01cde000-020a3000 rwxp  00:00 0
[heap]
30fbe0-30fbe2 r-xp  08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so http://ld-2.12.so
30fc01f000-30fc02 r-xp 0001f000 08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so http://ld-2.12.so
30fc02-30fc021000 rwxp 0002 08:01 558856
/lib64/ld-2.12.so http://ld-2.12.so
30fc021000-30fc022000 rwxp  00:00 0
30fc20-30fc202000 r-xp  08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so http://libdl-2.12.so
30fc202000-30fc402000 ---p 2000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so http://libdl-2.12.so
30fc402000-30fc403000 r-xp 2000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so http://libdl-2.12.so
30fc403000-30fc404000 rwxp 3000 08:01 554053
/lib64/libdl-2.12.so http://libdl-2.12.so
30fc60-30fc786000 r-xp  08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so http://libc-2.12.so
30fc786000-30fc986000 ---p 00186000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so http://libc-2.12.so
30fc986000-30fc98a000 r-xp 00186000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so http://libc-2.12.so
30fc98a000-30fc98b000 rwxp 0018a000 08:01 558857
/lib64/libc-2.12.so http://libc-2.12.so
30fc98b000-30fc99 rwxp  00:00 0
30fca0-30fca17000 r-xp  08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so http://libpthread-2.12.so
30fca17000-30fcc16000 ---p 00017000 08:01 558858
/lib64/libpthread-2.12.so http://libpthread-2.12.so
30fcc16000-30fcc17000 r-xp 00016000 08:01 558858
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Re: [gmx-users] How to extract the first three PC's cosine content from the coscont.xvg file?

2012-04-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Catherine,

A converged system will yield low cosine content. But that can't be
turned around! I can think of a lot of lines that don't match well
with a cosine, but that are inconsistent with convergence.

That said, the index in the .xvg file is the principal component
index. So the projection on the first pc has a cosine content of 0.6.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:28 AM, a a pat...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Sir/Madam,

 I used the following steps to get the cosine content for my trajectories,
 could you please kindly tell me how to interpret the results?

 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/g_covar_d -s ../test.pdb -f test.binpos -o -v

 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/g_anaeig_d -s ../test.pdb -f test.binpos -v
 eigenvec.trr -proj

 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/g_analyze_d -f proj.xvg -cc -n 8

 In the final coscont.xvg, I found the followings:

 
 # This file was created Tue Apr 10 10:59:12 2012
 # by the following command:
 # /usr/local/gromacs/bin/g_analyze_d -f proj.xvg -cc -n 8
 #
 # g_analyze_d is p art of G R O M A C S:
 #
 # Giant Rising Ordinary Mutants for A Clerical Setup
 #
 @    title Cosine content
 @    xaxis  label set / half periods
 @    yaxis  label cosine content
 @TYPE xy
  1 0.602921
  2 0.011185
  3 0.0659901
  4 0.425943
  5 0.204306
  6 0.439315
  7 0.0288551
  8 0.0830944
 

 I read some literature quoted the first three PCs's cosine content, if
 the cosine content close to zero, the trajectory is converged.

 How can I extract the first three PCs's cosine content from the above
 conscont.xvg file?  Please kindly help.

 Best regards,

 Catherine


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Simulation in the high temperature conditions

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



James Starlight wrote:

Justin,

Could you tell me for what purposes the definition of the several ref_t 
values could be usefull? Does this just for measurements of the 
temperature during simulation for each group separately or is there 
something else?




Each ref_t value is the target temperature for however many groups you have 
assigned to separate thermostats.




By the way as I've found in literature another important question about 
such simulation in high temperature conditions is the selection of the 
integrator algorithm wich also could enhanse sampling under this 
conditions.  E.g I've found that the BD integrator could be more usefull 
than leap-frog MD. What timestep and other importnat options defined in 
mdp should be tken into account within simulation with BD ? I've never 
perform simulations with this integrator and could not realise how it 
could enhanse simulation rate in comparison to the MD and what artifacts 
should expect from that :)





I have never used the bd integrator so I cannot offer any help here.  I don't 
see any magical reason why you should expect it to enhance sampling though.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained

2012-04-10 Thread XAvier Periole


Where did you find the topology?

On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:44 AM, dina dusti wrote:


Dear GROMACS Specialists,

I have doubt about definition of tiofen ring in MARTINI CG force  
field. May I ask you to help me, Please?
I defined if as: SC4 and SC5, that SC5 is as S-C-C and SC4 is as C- 
C. Is it right?

Or should I change SC5 to C-S-C for .gro file?
And my definition of tiofen in .itp file it is as followed , Please  
say me that is it right?


;;  TIOFEN

[moleculetype]
; molname   nrexcl
  TIO 1

[atoms]
; idtyperesnr   residu  atomcgnrcharge
  1 SC4 1 TIO SI1 1 0
  2 SC5 1 TIO SI22 0

[constraints]
; i j   funct   length
  1 2 1 0.27

Because I for benzene see a triangle in ngmx program, but for this  
see a line. Please help me to correction of mistakes.

Thank you very much in advance.

Best Regards
Dina



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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Pierre THEVENET
How long the MD simulation should be? The problem is that I run multiple
simulation (a hundred at a time) and the MD are really time consuming. I
should probably can't do it, if the time you propose is too long, I
probably forget it.

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2012/4/10 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu



 pitheve...@free.fr wrote:


 Here is what I have done:

 First, I created the .gro file with the command line:
 pdb2gmx  -f test.pdb  -o test.gro  -p test.top -ignh -missing


 Then, I added at the end of my test.top file the following lines (I
 double checked the atom numbers):

 [ distance_restraints ]
 ; ai aj type index type' low up1 up2 fac
  37 140 1   0 1 0.19 0.21 0.22 1

 then, I done:
 editconf -f test.gro -o test-box.gro -d 2.0 -c -bt cubic

 grompp -c test-box.gro -p test.top -o test-min.tpr -f test-em.mdp

 mdrun -s test-min.tpr -c test-min.gro -deffnm test-min -v -nice 0


 and finally get my new pdb file with:

 editconf -f test-min.gro -o test-min.pdb

 But it didn't seemed it had make the two sufur atom closer than if I
 didn't add the distance_restrain in the top file.

 Did I do something wrong?


 Simple energy minimization is unlikely to give rise to the structural
 changes you need to bring these atoms close together.  Running a short MD
 simulation may work, though if the atoms are very far apart and you force
 them together quickly, you may have stability issues.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Pierre THEVENET wrote:
How long the MD simulation should be? The problem is that I run multiple 
simulation (a hundred at a time) and the MD are really time consuming. I 
should probably can't do it, if the time you propose is too long, I 
probably forget it.




I can't predict how much time it would take.  How far apart are the S atoms from 
one another?  If it's just a small distance beyond the normal cutoff, it should 
be quick, a few hundred ps or less (assuming everything else is otherwise 
stable).  If the distance is very long and would require large structural 
transitions to accommodate, then you're probably in trouble.


-Justin


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pitheve...@free.fr mailto:pitheve...@free.fr wrote:


Here is what I have done:

First, I created the .gro file with the command line:
pdb2gmx  -f test.pdb  -o test.gro  -p test.top -ignh -missing


Then, I added at the end of my test.top file the following lines
(I double checked the atom numbers):

[ distance_restraints ]
; ai aj type index type' low up1 up2 fac
 37 140 1   0 1 0.19 0.21 0.22 1

then, I done:
editconf -f test.gro -o test-box.gro -d 2.0 -c -bt cubic

grompp -c test-box.gro -p test.top -o test-min.tpr -f test-em.mdp

mdrun -s test-min.tpr -c test-min.gro -deffnm test-min -v -nice 0


and finally get my new pdb file with:

editconf -f test-min.gro -o test-min.pdb

But it didn't seemed it had make the two sufur atom closer than
if I didn't add the distance_restrain in the top file.

Did I do something wrong?


Simple energy minimization is unlikely to give rise to the
structural changes you need to bring these atoms close together.
 Running a short MD simulation may work, though if the atoms are
very far apart and you force them together quickly, you may have
stability issues.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Simulation in the high temperature conditions

2012-04-10 Thread James Starlight
Justin,


10 апреля 2012 г. 16:21 пользователь Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.eduнаписал:


 I have never used the bd integrator so I cannot offer any help here.  I
 don't see any magical reason why you should expect it to enhance sampling
 though.


 I've found in the literature that this integrator could rise the
integration-time-step from common 1-2fs used with the MD-integrator.



By the way I've tried to test my system equilibrated in the hight
temperature in different conditions. As the consequence when I've removed
all posres ( on the last stage of equilibration it's value was 200 for
backbone atoms only) from my protein the alpha helixes have been
destabilised already after 3ns of such unconstrained simulation ( ref_t=
700k).

So I suppose that the presence of the some constrained factor is needed to
prevent destabilisation but allow conformation sampling.  I see three
alternative ways of my production MD run with enhanced sampling.

1- First of all as the most trivial way I'm thinking of using soft posres
applied on backbone atoms only with the constained value ( 50-100 kj*nm2)
corresponded to the energy of the thermal motion.

2- Also I've thought about application of the harmonic distance_restraince
(instead of posres) on the all backbone atoms exept of flexible loops where
this disres must be in the longer range ( e.g up to 15-20A) but I could not
realise about usefullness of such aproach because I cant define value for
such disres for the atoms in helixes. It's known that conformation
transitions wich I want to ssample accompanied by the large scale motions
in the helical segments ( up to 10-15 A). At the same time such big
fluctuations on the other atoms may destabiise regions wich are more rigid.
Should I define several sets of restrains for my protein to allow one
regions move with bigger amplitudes in comparison with rigid fragments ?

3- Finally alternative aproach is the ussage of common temperature (
ref_t=310k) in the production run but using starting velocities obtained
from the nvt equilibrration obtained with the hight ( 700k) temperature.
Can I enhance sampling using that starting conditions ?


What from this three strategies is the most suitable? IS there any
alternative ways for such high-temperature simulation ?


Thanks for help again,


James
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[gmx-users] on 2 different mini.mdp file

2012-04-10 Thread Acoot Brett

Dear All,
 
The first mini.mdp is as following:

 
; minim.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate em.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent 
minimization)
emtol   = 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  
1000.0 kJ/mol/nm
emstep  = 0.01  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to 
perform ; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how 
to calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and 
long range forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, 
grid)
rlist   = 1.0   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range 
forces)
coulombtype = PME   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic 
interactions
rcoulomb= 1.0   ; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.0   ; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no) 
 
The second mini.mdp is as folowing:
; ions.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate ions.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent minimization)
emtol   = 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  1000.0 
kJ/mol/nm
emstep  = 0.01  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to perform ; 
Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to 
calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and long range 
forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, grid)
rlist   = 1.4   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range forces)
coulombtype = PME   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb= 1.4   ; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.4   ; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions 
 
The difference is the cut-off. One is 1.4,the other is 1.0. Can anyone explain 
their difference on the influence of the MD result?
Suppose I use AMBER 99SB force field, will you lease tell me how can decide the 
value of the above cut-offs?
 
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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Pierre THEVENET
In most cases (it is form predicted structures) if the bonds is not formes,
the S atoms are at the opposite side of the backbone. And I work on
peptides, so the length of the structure isn't that big (50 residues max)

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2012/4/10 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu



 Pierre THEVENET wrote:

 How long the MD simulation should be? The problem is that I run multiple
 simulation (a hundred at a time) and the MD are really time consuming. I
 should probably can't do it, if the time you propose is too long, I
 probably forget it.


 I can't predict how much time it would take.  How far apart are the S
 atoms from one another?  If it's just a small distance beyond the normal
 cutoff, it should be quick, a few hundred ps or less (assuming everything
 else is otherwise stable).  If the distance is very long and would require
 large structural transitions to accommodate, then you're probably in
 trouble.

 -Justin

  Thank you

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 INSERM - MTi
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 2012/4/10 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu




pitheve...@free.fr mailto:pitheve...@free.fr wrote:


Here is what I have done:

First, I created the .gro file with the command line:
pdb2gmx  -f test.pdb  -o test.gro  -p test.top -ignh -missing


Then, I added at the end of my test.top file the following lines
(I double checked the atom numbers):

[ distance_restraints ]
; ai aj type index type' low up1 up2 fac
 37 140 1   0 1 0.19 0.21 0.22 1

then, I done:
editconf -f test.gro -o test-box.gro -d 2.0 -c -bt cubic

grompp -c test-box.gro -p test.top -o test-min.tpr -f test-em.mdp

mdrun -s test-min.tpr -c test-min.gro -deffnm test-min -v -nice 0


and finally get my new pdb file with:

editconf -f test-min.gro -o test-min.pdb

But it didn't seemed it had make the two sufur atom closer than
if I didn't add the distance_restrain in the top file.

Did I do something wrong?


Simple energy minimization is unlikely to give rise to the
structural changes you need to bring these atoms close together.
 Running a short MD simulation may work, though if the atoms are
very far apart and you force them together quickly, you may have
stability issues.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] lipid.itp for AMBER-GAFF

2012-04-10 Thread Henry Hocking

Hello,

I am following the 'KALP15 in DPPC tutorial' but using GAFF with DOPC  
(from http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/32.html) and my  
membrane protein.


Is there an equivalent file to lipid.itp for AMBER-GAFF?

Kind regards,

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[gmx-users] Can gromacs handle reflective boundary condition ?

2012-04-10 Thread stjohn55
Dear,

  Can gromacs handle reflective boundary condition, in order to remove the 
periodicity of Z-axis ? 
  Do I need to take advantage of walls and Ewald ?
  Thanks so much!

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Re: [gmx-users] lipid.itp for AMBER-GAFF

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Henry Hocking wrote:

Hello,

I am following the 'KALP15 in DPPC tutorial' but using GAFF with DOPC 
(from http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/32.html) and my 
membrane protein. 


Is there an equivalent file to lipid.itp for AMBER-GAFF?



There is a lipid force field that has been contributed (last item in the list):

http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/User_contributions/Force_fields

I've never used it, but there is a reference that should indicate if it is 
worthwhile for you.


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[gmx-users] Structures and topologies of cholesterol-containing membranes

2012-04-10 Thread Jochen Hub

Hi,

we have recently put a website online with structures and topologies of 
a large set of 28 different cholesterol-containing membranes:


http://cmb.bio.uni-goettingen.de/cholmembranes.html

Structures of membranes containing

- DMPC
- DPPC
- POPC
- DOPC
- POPE
- POPE and POPC

plus different amounts of cholesterol are available. Please feel free to 
use them if they are relevant for your research (we only ask to cite our 
papers).


Happy simulating,
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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Pierre THEVENET wrote:
In most cases (it is form predicted structures) if the bonds is not 
formes, the S atoms are at the opposite side of the backbone. And I work 
on peptides, so the length of the structure isn't that big (50 residues max)




Well, if you try the distance restraint approach, I'd do it in the absence of 
any solvent since there likely will be rather large structural changes (and thus 
very fast protein-solvent clashes as the restraints are satisfied), unless the 
peptide is pretty compact.  Really short MD should tell you if this will even be 
feasible.


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Re: [gmx-users] on 2 different mini.mdp file

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Acoot Brett wrote:


Dear All,
 
The first mini.mdp is as following:


 


; minim.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate em.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent 
minimization)
emtol   = 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  
1000.0 kJ/mol/nm
emstep  = 0.01  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to 
perform

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to 
calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and 
long range forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, 
grid)
rlist   = 1.0   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range 
forces)
coulombtype = PME   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic 
interactions
rcoulomb= 1.0   ; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.0   ; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)

 


The second mini.mdp is as folowing:

; ions.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate ions.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent minimization)
emtol   = 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  1000.0 
kJ/mol/nm
emstep  = 0.01  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to perform

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to 
calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and long range 
forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, grid)
rlist   = 1.4   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range forces)
coulombtype = PME   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb= 1.4   ; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.4   ; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions

 


The difference is the cut-off. One is 1.4,the other is 1.0. Can anyone explain 
their difference on the influence of the MD result?



You should be able to see this yourself from the resulting structure and 
energetic terms.  I'd suspect for simple energy minimization (which, by 
definition, is not MD) the differences will be rather small.  An actual MD 
simulation, however, may be influenced significantly.



Suppose I use AMBER 99SB force field, will you lease tell me how can decide the 
value of the above cut-offs?

 


By reading the primary reference for the force field to understand the 
conditions for which it was parameterized, then any subsequent tests of the 
force field that may have discovered improvements.  Researching a force field 
and its proper implementation can often be the most time-consuming part of 
preparing your simulations, but it's better to spend a few days reading and 
searching than a few weeks or months generating junk data because your setup is 
wrong ;)


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Simulation in the high temperature conditions

2012-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



James Starlight wrote:

Justin,


10 апреля 2012 г. 16:21 пользователь Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu написал:



I have never used the bd integrator so I cannot offer any help here.
 I don't see any magical reason why you should expect it to enhance
sampling though.


 I've found in the literature that this integrator could rise the 
integration-time-step from common 1-2fs used with the MD-integrator.




The timestep is not directly tied to the integrator.  The timestep is decided 
based on the fastest motions in the system.  Using constraints for bonds allows 
an increase in timestep.  There is information about these factors in the 
Gromacs manual, and likely any textbook regarding MD simulation.  A 2-fs 
timestep with the 'md' (leap-frog) integrator when using constraints is quite 
common.





By the way I've tried to test my system equilibrated in the hight 
temperature in different conditions. As the consequence when I've 
removed all posres ( on the last stage of equilibration it's value was 
200 for backbone atoms only) from my protein the alpha helixes have been 
destabilised already after 3ns of such unconstrained simulation ( ref_t= 
700k).




That's not surprising.  Most force fields were not designed to reproduce the 
structure of proteins at ambient temperature when exposed to conditions that 
exceed boiling.  Denaturation at this temperature should be expected.


So I suppose that the presence of the some constrained factor is needed 
to prevent destabilisation but allow conformation sampling.  I see three 
alternative ways of my production MD run with enhanced sampling.


1- First of all as the most trivial way I'm thinking of using soft 
posres applied on backbone atoms only with the constained value ( 50-100 
kj*nm2) corresponded to the energy of the thermal motion.


2- Also I've thought about application of the harmonic 
distance_restraince (instead of posres) on the all backbone atoms exept 
of flexible loops where this disres must be in the longer range ( e.g up 
to 15-20A) but I could not realise about usefullness of such aproach 
because I cant define value for such disres for the atoms in helixes. 


Sure you can.  Use genrestr with a suitable index group.  The use of lots of 
distance restraints precludes the use of DD, so you're limited to using mdrun 
-pd, which is a lot slower and may counteract any perceived benefit in terms of 
simulation time.


It's known that conformation transitions wich I want to ssample 
accompanied by the large scale motions in the helical segments ( up to 
10-15 A). At the same time such big fluctuations on the other atoms may 
destabiise regions wich are more rigid. Should I define several sets of 
restrains for my protein to allow one regions move with bigger 
amplitudes in comparison with rigid fragments ?




All of this sounds like a large bias on your results and deconvoluting what is 
real versus what you've caused to happen will be a huge headache.


3- Finally alternative aproach is the ussage of common temperature ( 
ref_t=310k) in the production run but using starting velocities obtained 
from the nvt equilibrration obtained with the hight ( 700k) temperature. 
Can I enhance sampling using that starting conditions ?




I don't think so.  We've discussed this already.  I suspect your thermostat will 
have a hard time converging and all you've ended up doing is creating a weird, 
undefined ensemble to start your simulations.




What from this three strategies is the most suitable? IS there any 
alternative ways for such high-temperature simulation ?




High-temperature MD is not a new concept.  There's lots of literature about it. 
 But if you find yourself having to engineer fancy ways of simply keeping your 
protein stable, it starts getting too fishy to be plausible, IMHO.


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Re: [gmx-users] SS bond forcing

2012-04-10 Thread Pierre THEVENET
Ok. Thank you for your help. I will try to do it and see if it not too time
consuming.

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2012/4/10 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu



 Pierre THEVENET wrote:

 In most cases (it is form predicted structures) if the bonds is not
 formes, the S atoms are at the opposite side of the backbone. And I work on
 peptides, so the length of the structure isn't that big (50 residues max)


 Well, if you try the distance restraint approach, I'd do it in the absence
 of any solvent since there likely will be rather large structural changes
 (and thus very fast protein-solvent clashes as the restraints are
 satisfied), unless the peptide is pretty compact.  Really short MD should
 tell you if this will even be feasible.

 -Justin


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[gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

2012-04-10 Thread Shi, Huilin
Hi All,

I have a question about periodic boundary conditions (pbc) when running a 
simulation to unfold a protein from its native structure.

I set up pbc with the starting structure which is compact.
When defining the box we use editconf and set up the -d 1.0 as the distance 
from the protein to the box edge.
It is said that a protein should never see its periodic image.
If during the simulation the protein starts unfolding, the minimum distance 
from the protein to the box edge will no longer be 1.0 nm.
And it is possible that the length of the protein is even longer than the box 
dimension and the protein may see its periodic image in the neighbored box.
Is this going to be a problem?
I am also confused that it is also said that (parts of) the molecule(s) 
diffuse out of the box is not a problem.
Is this conflicted with a protein should never see its periodic image?

Thank you.


Best,

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Re: [gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 11/04/2012 1:24 AM, Shi, Huilin wrote:

Hi All,

I have a question about periodic boundary conditions (pbc) when 
running a simulation to unfold a protein from its native structure.


I set up pbc with the starting structure which is compact.
When defining the box we use editconf and set up the -d 1.0 as the 
distance from the protein to the box edge.

It is said that a protein should never see its periodic image.
If during the simulation the protein starts unfolding, the minimum 
distance from the protein to the box edge will no longer be 1.0 nm.
And it is possible that the length of the protein is even longer than 
the box dimension and the protein may see its periodic image in the 
neighbored box.

Is this going to be a problem?


Yes, if you don't allow for it from the start. Some test simulations 
with implicit solvent are probably priceless here.


I am also confused that it is also said that (parts of) the 
molecule(s) diffuse out of the box is not a problem.

Is this conflicted with a protein should never see its periodic image?


Sometimes - can depend on orientation of molecule wrt box.

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[gmx-users] multiple dihedral function types - regd

2012-04-10 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear gromacs users,

   For one of my residues i have two types of
dihedral functions,  i.e  C-C dihedrals  are in periodic type and C-O
dihedrals are in the Ryckaert-bellemans type, now i want to generate the
topology file for this  residue is it possible to use the two dihedral
function types for this residue. I  have tried by using two different
dihedraltypes  directives one is for the periodic type and another one is
for Ryckaert-Bellemans function, but how can i incorporate the two
functional types in the dihedrals section of the  bondedtypes directive in
aminoacids.rtp.

or is there any methods in gromacs to convert one dihedral functional form
to the other.



Thank you,

Regards,
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RE: [gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

2012-04-10 Thread Shi, Huilin
So if I wanna run a simulation to unfold the protein, I need make a big box 
that is large enough so that the unfolded protein is still smaller than the box 
in any dimension. Is this correct?

Thanks.

Huilin

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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

On 11/04/2012 1:24 AM, Shi, Huilin wrote:
Hi All,

I have a question about periodic boundary conditions (pbc) when running a 
simulation to unfold a protein from its native structure.

I set up pbc with the starting structure which is compact.
When defining the box we use editconf and set up the -d 1.0 as the distance 
from the protein to the box edge.
It is said that a protein should never see its periodic image.
If during the simulation the protein starts unfolding, the minimum distance 
from the protein to the box edge will no longer be 1.0 nm.
And it is possible that the length of the protein is even longer than the box 
dimension and the protein may see its periodic image in the neighbored box.
Is this going to be a problem?

Yes, if you don't allow for it from the start. Some test simulations with 
implicit solvent are probably priceless here.

I am also confused that it is also said that (parts of) the molecule(s) 
diffuse out of the box is not a problem.
Is this conflicted with a protein should never see its periodic image?

Sometimes - can depend on orientation of molecule wrt box.

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Re: [gmx-users] Box generation for monoclinic crystal - regd

2012-04-10 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Mark,

 Thank you for reply, sorry for not being very clear, Here  my
doubt is can i use  triclinic box for the simulations of the crystal whose
unit cell is monoclinic. As i said earlier  i have tried editconf as
editconf -f input.gro -o out_box1.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
 -angles 90  125.4 90
it gave the following warning

WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.

for clarity here i am sending a part of the output file generated by the
editconf
God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 6528
1PEGAC11  -0.025   0.408  -0.045
1PEGAC22  -0.015   0.326   0.084
 ;
 3.22000   2.60800   6.35148   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
-4.51376  -0.0
if i change the angles while using the editconf i observed the following
changes

editconf -f input.gro -o out_box2.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
 -angles 90  90 125.4
in this case editconf haven't given any warning and the output as follows

 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 6528
1PEGAC11   1.477   0.167   0.675
1PEGAC22   1.487   0.085   0.804
 ;
   3.22000   2.12585   7.79200   0.0   0.0  -1.51077   0.0
-0.0  -0.0

Can you please help me in this regard.

thank you in advance.








On Mon, Ap;r 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 9/04/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

   I am planing to simulate a polymeric crystal in
 gromacs, which is of monoclinic unit cell with cell parameters a = 0.805 nm
 b = 1.304 nm and c = 1.948 nm and beta = 125.4 deg. my crystal is of 424
 type  i.e 4 unit cells along 'a' direction  '2' unit cells along 'b'
 direction and 4 unit cells along 'c' direction.
 So my box vector lengths are a = 3.22 nm, b = 2.608 nm, c = 7.792 nm.
 I  am using editconf to generate box for this crystal as:

 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box.gro  -bt tric -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  125.4 90

 Here i have some doubts:

 1) Am i using the editconf in correct manner for generation of box for
 the monoclinic crystal, though the crystal is of monoclinic  i am using box
 type as triclinic
 i haven't found any specific method for the generation of box for the
 monoclinic crystal.
 2) Is there any specific method to generate the box for the monoclinic
 crystals.
 3) The notations for the lattice parameters of the crystal i.e 'a' , 'b'
 , 'c' and angles alpha, beta , gamma used by crystallography and the
 gromacs editconf are the same or different, why because if i use editconf
 as above i am getting the following warning:

 WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.


 This means equation 3.3 of the manual is not true. Maybe beta should be
 acute? I've no idea of necessity or convention here.

 Inspecting the whole output of editconf is probably instructive, but
 you've kept all that information to yourself instead of re-thinking how
 your repeat post might be constructed so as to make it easier / more likely
 for people help you. Likewise the final line of out_box.gro. Make sure you
 have read and understood what documentation is available with editconf -h
 and in manual section 3.2.

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Re: [gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

2012-04-10 Thread Matthew Zwier
Correct.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shi, Huilin huil...@imail.iu.edu wrote:
 So if I wanna run a simulation to unfold the protein, I need make a big box
 that is large enough so that the unfolded protein is still smaller than the
 box in any dimension. Is this correct?

 Thanks.

 Huilin
 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on
 behalf of Mark Abraham [mark.abra...@anu.edu.au]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:54 AM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] protein folding / pbc

 On 11/04/2012 1:24 AM, Shi, Huilin wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have a question about periodic boundary conditions (pbc) when running a
 simulation to unfold a protein from its native structure.

 I set up pbc with the starting structure which is compact.
 When defining the box we use editconf and set up the -d 1.0 as the distance
 from the protein to the box edge.
 It is said that a protein should never see its periodic image.
 If during the simulation the protein starts unfolding, the minimum distance
 from the protein to the box edge will no longer be 1.0 nm.
 And it is possible that the length of the protein is even longer than the
 box dimension and the protein may see its periodic image in the neighbored
 box.
 Is this going to be a problem?


 Yes, if you don't allow for it from the start. Some test simulations with
 implicit solvent are probably priceless here.

 I am also confused that it is also said that (parts of) the molecule(s)
 diffuse out of the box is not a problem.
 Is this conflicted with a protein should never see its periodic image?


 Sometimes - can depend on orientation of molecule wrt box.

 Mark

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[gmx-users] martini coarse-grained

2012-04-10 Thread dina dusti



- Forwarded Message -
From: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com
To: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: martini coarse-grained
 

Thank you very much from your response. 

I found the coordinate file of tiofen from PRODRG and I wrote .itp file for 
that according to definition of molecules in martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp file.
What is your idea about this, Please?

Best Regards
Dina




 From: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
To: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained
 


Where did you find the topology?


On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:44 AM, dina dusti wrote:

Dear GROMACS Specialists,


I have doubt about definition of tiofen ring in MARTINI CG force field. May I 
ask you to help me, Please?
I defined if as: SC4 and SC5, that SC5 is as S-C-C and SC4 is as C-C. Is it 
right?
Or should I change SC5 to C-S-C for .gro file?
And my definition of tiofen in .itp file it is as followed , Please say me 
that is it right?



;;  TIOFEN

[moleculetype]
; molname   nrexcl
  TIO
         1

[atoms]
; id    type    resnr   residu  atom    cgnr    charge
  1     SC4     1 TIO     SI1     1     0 
  2     SC5     1 TIO     SI2    2     0 

[constraints]
; i j   funct   length
  1 2     1     0.27


Because I for benzene see a triangle in ngmx program, but for this see a line. 
Please help me to correction of mistakes.
Thank you very much in advance.


Best Regards
Dina






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Re: [gmx-users] Box generation for monoclinic crystal - regd

2012-04-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Ramesh,

Maybe it is easier, and less error-prone, to work in PDB format,
specifying the box as a CRYST1 record. You can use the PDB format
anywhere in your workflow where GRO format is used.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, ramesh cheerla rameshgrom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Mark,

  Thank you for reply, sorry for not being very clear, Here  my
 doubt is can i use  triclinic box for the simulations of the crystal whose
 unit cell is monoclinic. As i said earlier  i have tried editconf as
 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box1.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  125.4 90
 it gave the following warning

 WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.

 for clarity here i am sending a part of the output file generated by the
 editconf
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  6528
     1PEGA    C1    1  -0.025   0.408  -0.045
     1PEGA    C2    2  -0.015   0.326   0.084
  ;
  3.22000   2.60800   6.35148   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 -4.51376  -0.0
 if i change the angles while using the editconf i observed the following
 changes

 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box2.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  90 125.4
 in this case editconf haven't given any warning and the output as follows

  God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  6528
     1PEGA    C1    1   1.477   0.167   0.675
     1PEGA    C2    2   1.487   0.085   0.804
  ;
    3.22000   2.12585   7.79200   0.0   0.0  -1.51077   0.0
 -0.0  -0.0

 Can you please help me in this regard.

 thank you in advance.








 On Mon, Ap;r 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 wrote:

 On 9/04/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

                           I am planing to simulate a polymeric crystal in
 gromacs, which is of monoclinic unit cell with cell parameters a = 0.805 nm
 b = 1.304 nm and c = 1.948 nm and beta = 125.4 deg. my crystal is of 424
 type  i.e 4 unit cells along 'a' direction  '2' unit cells along 'b'
 direction and 4 unit cells along 'c' direction.
 So my box vector lengths are a = 3.22 nm, b = 2.608 nm, c = 7.792 nm.
 I  am using editconf to generate box for this crystal as:

 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box.gro  -bt tric -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  125.4 90

 Here i have some doubts:

 1) Am i using the editconf in correct manner for generation of box for
 the monoclinic crystal, though the crystal is of monoclinic  i am using box
 type as triclinic
 i haven't found any specific method for the generation of box for the
 monoclinic crystal.
 2) Is there any specific method to generate the box for the monoclinic
 crystals.
 3) The notations for the lattice parameters of the crystal i.e 'a' , 'b'
 , 'c' and angles alpha, beta , gamma used by crystallography and the gromacs
 editconf are the same or different, why because if i use editconf as above i
 am getting the following warning:

 WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.


 This means equation 3.3 of the manual is not true. Maybe beta should be
 acute? I've no idea of necessity or convention here.

 Inspecting the whole output of editconf is probably instructive, but
 you've kept all that information to yourself instead of re-thinking how your
 repeat post might be constructed so as to make it easier / more likely for
 people help you. Likewise the final line of out_box.gro. Make sure you have
 read and understood what documentation is available with editconf -h and in
 manual section 3.2.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained

2012-04-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Dina,

Thiophen is a five-membered ring, like the histidine side-chain, which
is modeled with three beads. And then you ought to choose the bead
types such that they give good agreement with atomistic PMFs and/or
partitioning of the same compound. It's very unlikely that just
fiddling around a bit yields a suitable model.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 - Forwarded Message -
 From: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com
 To: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:44 PM
 Subject: martini coarse-grained

 Thank you very much from your response.
 I found the coordinate file of tiofen from PRODRG and I wrote .itp file for
 that according to definition of molecules in martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp
 file.
 What is your idea about this, Please?

 Best Regards
 Dina

 
 From: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 To: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users
 gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained


 Where did you find the topology?

 On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:44 AM, dina dusti wrote:

 Dear GROMACS Specialists,

 I have doubt about definition of tiofen ring in MARTINI CG force field. May
 I ask you to help me, Please?
 I defined if as: SC4 and SC5, that SC5 is as S-C-C and SC4 is as C-C. Is it
 right?
 Or should I change SC5 to C-S-C for .gro file?
 And my definition of tiofen in .itp file it is as followed , Please say me
 that is it right?

 ;;  TIOFEN

 [moleculetype]
 ; molname   nrexcl
   TIO         1

 [atoms]
 ; id    type    resnr   residu  atom    cgnr    charge
   1     SC4     1 TIO     SI1     1     0
   2     SC5     1 TIO     SI2    2     0

 [constraints]
 ; i j   funct   length
   1 2     1     0.27

 Because I for benzene see a triangle in ngmx program, but for this see a
 line. Please help me to correction of mistakes.
 Thank you very much in advance.

 Best Regards
 Dina



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Re: [gmx-users] Box generation for monoclinic crystal - regd

2012-04-10 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Tsjerk,

Thank you for your reply, I will try to work with PDB format and get back
to you.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Ramesh,

 Maybe it is easier, and less error-prone, to work in PDB format,
 specifying the box as a CRYST1 record. You can use the PDB format
 anywhere in your workflow where GRO format is used.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk


 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, ramesh cheerla rameshgrom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear Mark,
 
   Thank you for reply, sorry for not being very clear, Here
 my
  doubt is can i use  triclinic box for the simulations of the crystal
 whose
  unit cell is monoclinic. As i said earlier  i have tried editconf as
  editconf -f input.gro -o out_box1.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608
 7.792
   -angles 90  125.4 90
  it gave the following warning
 
  WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.
 
  for clarity here i am sending a part of the output file generated by the
  editconf
  God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
   6528
  1PEGAC11  -0.025   0.408  -0.045
  1PEGAC22  -0.015   0.326   0.084
   ;
   3.22000   2.60800   6.35148   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  -4.51376  -0.0
  if i change the angles while using the editconf i observed the following
  changes
 
  editconf -f input.gro -o out_box2.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608
 7.792
   -angles 90  90 125.4
  in this case editconf haven't given any warning and the output as follows
 
   God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
   6528
  1PEGAC11   1.477   0.167   0.675
  1PEGAC22   1.487   0.085   0.804
   ;
 3.22000   2.12585   7.79200   0.0   0.0  -1.51077   0.0
  -0.0  -0.0
 
  Can you please help me in this regard.
 
  thank you in advance.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Ap;r 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
  wrote:
 
  On 9/04/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:
 
  Dear Gromacs users,
 
I am planing to simulate a polymeric crystal
 in
  gromacs, which is of monoclinic unit cell with cell parameters a =
 0.805 nm
  b = 1.304 nm and c = 1.948 nm and beta = 125.4 deg. my crystal is of
 424
  type  i.e 4 unit cells along 'a' direction  '2' unit cells along 'b'
  direction and 4 unit cells along 'c' direction.
  So my box vector lengths are a = 3.22 nm, b = 2.608 nm, c = 7.792 nm.
  I  am using editconf to generate box for this crystal as:
 
  editconf -f input.gro -o out_box.gro  -bt tric -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
   -angles 90  125.4 90
 
  Here i have some doubts:
 
  1) Am i using the editconf in correct manner for generation of box for
  the monoclinic crystal, though the crystal is of monoclinic  i am
 using box
  type as triclinic
  i haven't found any specific method for the generation of box for the
  monoclinic crystal.
  2) Is there any specific method to generate the box for the monoclinic
  crystals.
  3) The notations for the lattice parameters of the crystal i.e 'a' ,
 'b'
  , 'c' and angles alpha, beta , gamma used by crystallography and the
 gromacs
  editconf are the same or different, why because if i use editconf as
 above i
  am getting the following warning:
 
  WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.
 
 
  This means equation 3.3 of the manual is not true. Maybe beta should be
  acute? I've no idea of necessity or convention here.
 
  Inspecting the whole output of editconf is probably instructive, but
  you've kept all that information to yourself instead of re-thinking how
 your
  repeat post might be constructed so as to make it easier / more likely
 for
  people help you. Likewise the final line of out_box.gro. Make sure you
 have
  read and understood what documentation is available with editconf -h
 and in
  manual section 3.2.
 
  Mark
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[gmx-users] Particle Insertion with Buckingham Potential

2012-04-10 Thread Tina Wang
I switched the potential calculation from Lennard-Jones to Buckingham.
After the switch, the simulations that I submit encounter the following
error:

Fatal error:
Not enough memory. Failed to realloc 2812110160 byes for *bin,
*bin=0x83fd1008 (called from file tpi.c, line 109).

I find this puzzling since the simulations worked fine with the
Lennard-Jones parameters. I see no reason why switching to Buckingham would
cause a memory error. The same error occurred for three different
simulation systems. Any ideas?
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Re: [gmx-users] Box generation for monoclinic crystal - regd

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 11/04/2012 4:13 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Mark,

 Thank you for reply, sorry for not being very clear, 
Here  my doubt is can i use  triclinic box for the simulations of the 
crystal whose unit cell is monoclinic. As i said earlier  i have tried 
editconf as
editconf -f input.gro -o out_box1.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 
7.792  -angles 90  125.4 90

it gave the following warning

WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.

for clarity here i am sending a part of the output file generated by 
the editconf

God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 6528
1PEGAC11  -0.025   0.408  -0.045
1PEGAC22  -0.015   0.326   0.084
 ;
 3.22000   2.60800   6.35148   0.0   0.0   0.0   
0.0  -4.51376  -0.0
if i change the angles while using the editconf i observed the 
following changes


editconf -f input.gro -o out_box2.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 
7.792  -angles 90  90 125.4


Isn't that a totally different box? See editconf -h about -angles.

Mark


in this case editconf haven't given any warning and the output as follows

 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
 6528
1PEGAC11   1.477   0.167   0.675
1PEGAC22   1.487   0.085   0.804
 ;
   3.22000   2.12585   7.79200   0.0   0.0  -1.51077   
0.0  -0.0  -0.0


Can you please help me in this regard.

thank you in advance.








On Mon, Ap;r 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham 
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 9/04/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

  I am planing to simulate a polymeric
crystal in gromacs, which is of monoclinic unit cell with cell
parameters a = 0.805 nm b = 1.304 nm and c = 1.948 nm and beta
= 125.4 deg. my crystal is of 424 type  i.e 4 unit cells along
'a' direction  '2' unit cells along 'b' direction and 4 unit
cells along 'c' direction.
So my box vector lengths are a = 3.22 nm, b = 2.608 nm, c =
7.792 nm.
I  am using editconf to generate box for this crystal as:

editconf -f input.gro -o out_box.gro  -bt tric -box 3.22 2.608
7.792  -angles 90  125.4 90

Here i have some doubts:

1) Am i using the editconf in correct manner for generation of
box for the monoclinic crystal, though the crystal is of
monoclinic  i am using box type as triclinic
i haven't found any specific method for the generation of box
for the monoclinic crystal.
2) Is there any specific method to generate the box for the
monoclinic crystals.
3) The notations for the lattice parameters of the crystal i.e
'a' , 'b' , 'c' and angles alpha, beta , gamma used by
crystallography and the gromacs editconf are the same or
different, why because if i use editconf as above i am getting
the following warning:

WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.


This means equation 3.3 of the manual is not true. Maybe beta
should be acute? I've no idea of necessity or convention here.

Inspecting the whole output of editconf is probably instructive,
but you've kept all that information to yourself instead of
re-thinking how your repeat post might be constructed so as to
make it easier / more likely for people help you. Likewise the
final line of out_box.gro. Make sure you have read and understood
what documentation is available with editconf -h and in manual
section 3.2.

Mark
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[gmx-users] martini coarse-grained

2012-04-10 Thread dina dusti
Hi Tsjerk,

Thank you very much from your response.
OK, it means that I should select SC4, SC4 and SC5 for tiophen (SC4s = C-C and 
SC5 = S)?
On the other hand, I have 2 other structure, aniline and pyrrole. If I select 
three beads for both of them consist of SC4, SC4 and SP1, consequently, they 
become similar together!!!

Please help me.

Thank you very much again.
Best Regards
Dina



 From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
To: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained
 
Hi Dina,

Thiophen is a five-membered ring, like the histidine side-chain, which
is modeled with three beads. And then you ought to choose the bead
types such that they give good agreement with atomistic PMFs and/or
partitioning of the same compound. It's very unlikely that just
fiddling around a bit yields a suitable model.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 - Forwarded Message -
 From: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com
 To: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:44 PM
 Subject: martini coarse-grained

 Thank you very much from your response.
 I found the coordinate file of tiofen from PRODRG and I wrote .itp file for
 that according to definition of molecules in martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp
 file.
 What is your idea about this, Please?

 Best Regards
 Dina

 
 From: XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 To: dina dusti dinadu...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users
 gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] martini coarse-grained


 Where did you find the topology?

 On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:44 AM, dina dusti wrote:

 Dear GROMACS Specialists,

 I have doubt about definition of tiofen ring in MARTINI CG force field. May
 I ask you to help me, Please?
 I defined if as: SC4 and SC5, that SC5 is as S-C-C and SC4 is as C-C. Is it
 right?
 Or should I change SC5 to C-S-C for .gro file?
 And my definition of tiofen in .itp file it is as followed , Please say me
 that is it right?

 ;;  TIOFEN

 [moleculetype]
 ; molname   nrexcl
   TIO         1

 [atoms]
 ; id    type    resnr   residu  atom    cgnr    charge
   1     SC4     1 TIO     SI1     1     0
   2     SC5     1 TIO     SI2    2     0

 [constraints]
 ; i j   funct   length
   1 2     1     0.27

 Because I for benzene see a triangle in ngmx program, but for this see a
 line. Please help me to correction of mistakes.
 Thank you very much in advance.

 Best Regards
 Dina



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Re: [gmx-users] multiple dihedral function types - regd

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 11/04/2012 3:33 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

   For one of my residues i have two types 
of dihedral functions,  i.e  C-C dihedrals  are in periodic type and 
C-O  dihedrals are in the Ryckaert-bellemans type, now i want to 
generate the topology file for this  residue is it possible to use the 
two dihedral function types for this residue. I  have tried by using 
two different dihedraltypes  directives one is for the periodic type 
and another one is for Ryckaert-Bellemans function, but how can i 
incorporate the two functional types in the dihedrals section of the  
bondedtypes directive in aminoacids.rtp.


You can't. That is a limitation of pdb2gmx.



or is there any methods in gromacs to convert one dihedral functional 
form to the other.


Basic trig will let you express a periodic dihedral of sufficiently 
small periodicity in R-B form. However that's only a reasonable solution 
with pdb2gmx if the force field uses only R-B dihedrals.


It may be more effective to use pdb2gmx and to replace the inappropriate 
dihedral form in the .top file by hand afterwards.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Can gromacs handle reflective boundary condition ?

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2012 11:50 PM, stjohn55 wrote:

Dear,
  Can gromacs handle reflective boundary condition, in order to 
remove the periodicity of Z-axis ?


No.

Mark


  Do I need to take advantage of walls and Ewald ?
  Thanks so much!
  
Yours,  John Yu
  
   2012.04.10





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Re: [gmx-users] multiple dihedral function types - regd

2012-04-10 Thread ramesh cheerla
Thank you mark.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 11/04/2012 3:33 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear gromacs users,

   For one of my residues i have two types of
 dihedral functions,  i.e  C-C dihedrals  are in periodic type and C-O
  dihedrals are in the Ryckaert-bellemans type, now i want to generate the
 topology file for this  residue is it possible to use the two dihedral
 function types for this residue. I  have tried by using two different
 dihedraltypes  directives one is for the periodic type and another one is
 for Ryckaert-Bellemans function, but how can i incorporate the two
 functional types in the dihedrals section of the  bondedtypes directive in
 aminoacids.rtp.


 You can't. That is a limitation of pdb2gmx.



 or is there any methods in gromacs to convert one dihedral functional
 form to the other.


 Basic trig will let you express a periodic dihedral of sufficiently small
 periodicity in R-B form. However that's only a reasonable solution with
 pdb2gmx if the force field uses only R-B dihedrals.

 It may be more effective to use pdb2gmx and to replace the inappropriate
 dihedral form in the .top file by hand afterwards.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Box generation for monoclinic crystal - regd

2012-04-10 Thread ramesh cheerla
Thank you mark.


On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 11/04/2012 4:13 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Mark,

  Thank you for reply, sorry for not being very clear, Here  my
 doubt is can i use  triclinic box for the simulations of the crystal whose
 unit cell is monoclinic. As i said earlier  i have tried editconf as
 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box1.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  125.4 90
 it gave the following warning

 WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.

 for clarity here i am sending a part of the output file generated by the
 editconf
 God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  6528
 1PEGAC11  -0.025   0.408  -0.045
 1PEGAC22  -0.015   0.326   0.084
  ;
  3.22000   2.60800   6.35148   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 -4.51376  -0.0
 if i change the angles while using the editconf i observed the following
 changes

 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box2.gro  -bt triclinic -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  90 125.4


 Isn't that a totally different box? See editconf -h about -angles.

 Mark


  in this case editconf haven't given any warning and the output as follows

  God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
  6528
 1PEGAC11   1.477   0.167   0.675
 1PEGAC22   1.487   0.085   0.804
  ;
3.22000   2.12585   7.79200   0.0   0.0  -1.51077   0.0
 -0.0  -0.0

 Can you please help me in this regard.

 thank you in advance.








 On Mon, Ap;r 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 9/04/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

   I am planing to simulate a polymeric crystal
 in gromacs, which is of monoclinic unit cell with cell parameters a = 0.805
 nm b = 1.304 nm and c = 1.948 nm and beta = 125.4 deg. my crystal is of 424
 type  i.e 4 unit cells along 'a' direction  '2' unit cells along 'b'
 direction and 4 unit cells along 'c' direction.
 So my box vector lengths are a = 3.22 nm, b = 2.608 nm, c = 7.792 nm.
 I  am using editconf to generate box for this crystal as:

 editconf -f input.gro -o out_box.gro  -bt tric -box 3.22 2.608 7.792
  -angles 90  125.4 90

 Here i have some doubts:

 1) Am i using the editconf in correct manner for generation of box for
 the monoclinic crystal, though the crystal is of monoclinic  i am using box
 type as triclinic
 i haven't found any specific method for the generation of box for the
 monoclinic crystal.
 2) Is there any specific method to generate the box for the monoclinic
 crystals.
 3) The notations for the lattice parameters of the crystal i.e 'a' , 'b'
 , 'c' and angles alpha, beta , gamma used by crystallography and the
 gromacs editconf are the same or different, why because if i use editconf
 as above i am getting the following warning:

 WARNING: Triclinic box is too skewed.


  This means equation 3.3 of the manual is not true. Maybe beta should be
 acute? I've no idea of necessity or convention here.

 Inspecting the whole output of editconf is probably instructive, but
 you've kept all that information to yourself instead of re-thinking how
 your repeat post might be constructed so as to make it easier / more likely
 for people help you. Likewise the final line of out_box.gro. Make sure you
 have read and understood what documentation is available with editconf -h
 and in manual section 3.2.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] regarding micelle and its analysis

2012-04-10 Thread priya thiyagarajan
hello sir,

i am studying about micelle formation of surfactants. i performed my run
for 10ns.. when i visualize my final md pdb file i got around 2 to 3
micelles.

my doubt is while performing analysis , g_gyrate giving a value of around
3nm..

this value corresponds to which micelle..

how its calculating this value..

please help me with your answer..

i am so confused with my analysis..

thanking you,
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