Re: [gmx-users] node decomposition' problem

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 4:25 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



On 7/9/12 4:23 PM, Thales Kronenberger wrote:

I'm trying to run a kinase (what means that I had ATP - large charged
group) energy minimization and then MD.

But when I put my protein together with its ligands I gotcha the
follow error message:

"There is no domain decomposition for 6 nodes that is compatible with
the given box and a minimum cell size of 6.47943 nm
Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd
Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition"

I read about in gromacs forums and I can force the thing's running
with the option nt 1 (one node...).

My problem is that I still want to run in parallel. Is it still that
possible for my system or I'm doomed to the 1 core simulation



The minimum charge group size depends on a whole host of factors:



*Edit* "minimum domain decomposition cell" - I don't know where "charge group" 
came from...



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#There_is_no_domain_decomposition_for_n_nodes_that_is_compatible_with_the_given_box_and_a_minimum_cell_size_of_x_nm


The large size you have obtained indicates there are likely problems with the
.mdp file, topology, or both.

-Justin



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Re: [gmx-users] node decomposition' problem

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 4:23 PM, Thales Kronenberger wrote:

I'm trying to run a kinase (what means that I had ATP - large charged
group) energy minimization and then MD.

But when I put my protein together with its ligands I gotcha the
follow error message:

"There is no domain decomposition for 6 nodes that is compatible with
the given box and a minimum cell size of 6.47943 nm
Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd
Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition"

I read about in gromacs forums and I can force the thing's running
with the option nt 1 (one node...).

My problem is that I still want to run in parallel. Is it still that
possible for my system or I'm doomed to the 1 core simulation



The minimum charge group size depends on a whole host of factors:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#There_is_no_domain_decomposition_for_n_nodes_that_is_compatible_with_the_given_box_and_a_minimum_cell_size_of_x_nm

The large size you have obtained indicates there are likely problems with the 
.mdp file, topology, or both.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] node decomposition' problem

2012-07-09 Thread Thales Kronenberger
I'm trying to run a kinase (what means that I had ATP - large charged
group) energy minimization and then MD.

But when I put my protein together with its ligands I gotcha the
follow error message:

"There is no domain decomposition for 6 nodes that is compatible with
the given box and a minimum cell size of 6.47943 nm
Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd
Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition"

I read about in gromacs forums and I can force the thing's running
with the option nt 1 (one node...).

My problem is that I still want to run in parallel. Is it still that
possible for my system or I'm doomed to the 1 core simulation
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: DNA simulations

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 4:07 PM, SatyaK wrote:

  Hello,

  I followed below steps using VMD and GROMACS but something went wrong in
using GROMACS which I am not able to figure out. Appreciate your help.

  1. editconf -f initialfile.pdb -o initialfile.gro -d 0.2
  2. VMD: within 5 of nucleic
  $sel writepdb initialfile_updated.pdb
  $sel delete

   (initialfile_updated.pdb has only those molecules that are at a
distance of 5A)

  3. I used GROMACS to convert back to .gro:editconf -f
initialfile_updated.pdb -o initialfile_updated.gro -d 0.2

  The coordinates in ininitialfile.gro and initialfile_updared.gro are
different. I quite don't understand the reason for the same.


You are resetting the box by invoking the -d option with editconf.  If 
initialfile.gro had all the original atoms and initialfile_updated.gro has 
significantly fewer (due to the selection made in VMD), then the size associated 
with the system is much smaller.  Using -d re-centers the system within the 
defined box, thus shifting the coordinates.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: DNA simulations

2012-07-09 Thread SatyaK
 Hello,

 I followed below steps using VMD and GROMACS but something went wrong in
using GROMACS which I am not able to figure out. Appreciate your help.

 1. editconf -f initialfile.pdb -o initialfile.gro -d 0.2
 2. VMD: within 5 of nucleic
 $sel writepdb initialfile_updated.pdb
 $sel delete
 
  (initialfile_updated.pdb has only those molecules that are at a
distance of 5A)

 3. I used GROMACS to convert back to .gro:editconf -f
initialfile_updated.pdb -o initialfile_updated.gro -d 0.2

 The coordinates in ininitialfile.gro and initialfile_updared.gro are
different. I quite don't understand the reason for the same.
Thanks,
Satya.

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Re: [gmx-users] water model

2012-07-09 Thread Peter C. Lai
For CHARMM the typical water model is TIP3P, although I tend to use TIPS3P
since it's been reported on the mailing list to give better interactions with 
bilayers. (Also easier to pass by picky reviewers at the expense of ns/day,
obviously).

The following thread may be helpful too:
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-September/053960.html

On 2012-07-09 10:49:57AM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote:
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>  Dear gmx friends,
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> Is there the best water model for each force fields? Which options are 
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> I need to tell you that I apply C36 in my simulations.
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> Thanks in advance.
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> Sincerely,
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[gmx-users] water model

2012-07-09 Thread Shima Arasteh


 Dear gmx friends,

Is there the best water model for each force fields? Which options are supposed 
to be noticed in applying the best water model.
I need to tell you that I apply C36 in my simulations.

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
Shima
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Re: [gmx-users] force field parametrs for Mn2+

2012-07-09 Thread tarak karmakar
sorry it's my mistake .
thanks a lot for the reply.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:
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>
> On 7/9/12 1:21 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:
>>
>> Oh !! nice work
>> Thanks a lot for the quick reply. But I'm very sorry to inform you
>> that whichever table [supplementary table S4] you are specifying in
>> the supporting info, I couldn't find anywhere. So, may be I'm finding
>> my way in wrong track. Can you please provide me the link and / the
>> table containing the parameters for the Manganese ?
>
>
> It's on p. 11 of the supplement.
>
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/anie.201202032/asset/supinfo/anie_201202032_sm_miscellaneous_information.pdf?v=1&s=cff1986017d1843da85eb75dbd174c8e11727dc8
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Re: [gmx-users] force field parametrs for Mn2+

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 1:21 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:

Oh !! nice work
Thanks a lot for the quick reply. But I'm very sorry to inform you
that whichever table [supplementary table S4] you are specifying in
the supporting info, I couldn't find anywhere. So, may be I'm finding
my way in wrong track. Can you please provide me the link and / the
table containing the parameters for the Manganese ?


It's on p. 11 of the supplement.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/anie.201202032/asset/supinfo/anie_201202032_sm_miscellaneous_information.pdf?v=1&s=cff1986017d1843da85eb75dbd174c8e11727dc8

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] force field parametrs for Mn2+

2012-07-09 Thread tarak karmakar
Oh !! nice work
Thanks a lot for the quick reply. But I'm very sorry to inform you
that whichever table [supplementary table S4] you are specifying in
the supporting info, I couldn't find anywhere. So, may be I'm finding
my way in wrong track. Can you please provide me the link and / the
table containing the parameters for the Manganese ?
Thanks in advance.

Tarak

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, andrea spitaleri
 wrote:
> Hi,
> we published recently a paper where we determined the oplsaa parameters for
> Mn2+;
> have look to (supp mat):
>
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201202032/abstract
>
>
> hope it helps
>
>
>
> On 07/09/2012 12:21 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>> Please suggest me any paper/article that contains force field
>> parameters for Mn 2+ .
>>
>> Thanks
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[gmx-users] About lipid simulation...

2012-07-09 Thread rama david
Hi Gromacs friends,

I am very novice to the lipid simulation study..
My problem may be very simple, But very imp to me to know it.

I am trying to  reproduced the result of article  ¨Antimicrobial
peptide in Action¨
Published in JACS, 2006,128, 12156-12161, doi no = 10.1021/ja062927q



As per article they used two conditions,

1. Stress free ( Lateral  Tension = 0)
2. Stress condition ( Lateral  tension = 20 mNm/m)

parameter for simulation as follow,

Weakly coupled temp 323 k ( Coupling time = 0.1)
Weakly coupled press ( Coupling time = 0.5 Compressibility 5 e-5 bar -1)

Keep the P|| ( lateral press ) and  Pz( Perpendicular press ) same
P||  = Pz = 1 ,
Result will be stress free bilayer ( Lateral  Tension = 0).

For other condition of P||  =   -30  Pz = 1 , result in a lateral tension of
20 mNm/m

for stress free condition I made following npt.mdp
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= Berendsen; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps= Protein DPPCSOL_CL; three coupling groups -
more accurate
tau_t= 0.10.10.1; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 323 323323; reference temperature,
one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl=  Berendsen; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype= semiisotropic; uniform scaling of x-y box
vectors, independent z
tau_p= 0.5; time constant, in ps
ref_p= 1.01.0; reference pressure, x-y, z (in bar)
compressibility = 5.0e-55.0e-5; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1


And for stress condition I made the following npt.mdp

; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= Berendsen; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps= Protein DPPCSOL_CL; three coupling groups -
more accurate
tau_t= 0.10.10.1; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 323 323323; reference temperature,
one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl=  Berendsen; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype= semiisotropic; uniform scaling of x-y box
vectors, independent z
tau_p= 0.5; time constant, in ps
ref_p=  -30.01.0; reference pressure, x-y,
z (in bar)
compressibility = 5.0e-55.0e-5; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1


Please help to make right npt.mdp from above  mention parameter.


I read the Gromacs manual for 4.5.4, Section 3.4 page no 33,
Surface tension coupling work with only Berendsen Press coupling.

Please , would you tell me how to calculate lateral surface tension from
P|| ( lateral press ) and  Pz( Perpendicular press )  ???
( Why to say  P||  =   -30  Pz = 1 , will give the teral tension of
20 mNm/m  ???)


Please give me the valuable suggestion in these regard

Thank you in advance.

Have a nice Day.
With best wishes and regards,


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[gmx-users] Problems with solvation in SW (water shell model)

2012-07-09 Thread Eudes Fileti
Hello, I'm trying to solvate an OPLSAA methanol molecule in
polarizable water shell.
Initially I generated a box of pure water using the TIP5P box
available in gromacs 4.5.
I simulated pure water and I got all the bulk properties in agreement
with published results for SW water.
In sequence, I used genbox to add the SW water in a 3x3x3 box with a
molecule of methanol.
By using grompp I received the following error message when I tried
minimization

Fatal error:
Syntax error - File sw.itp, line 36
Last line read:
'LJ Geometric'
Found a second defaults directive.

Following a suggestion I found on the gmx-forum I commented the
following lines of the sw.itp file.

[ defaults ]
LJ  Geometric

Done it, I got pre-process the files, but mdrun gave me the segmentation fault:

Steepest Descents:
   Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.0e+00
   Number of steps= 5000
Segmentation fault: 11-02 nm, Epot=  nan Fmax= 1.61425e+04, atom= 2380

Besides I can not minimize the solution, I also noticed that after
I have commented the lines of the file sw.itp, I did not get back to
simulate the pure water again.

Anyone have any tips on how I could solve this problem?
Bests
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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
I already decrease it to 0.002 as you said and then there comes this error
I wrote to you.
Now It try it with 0.001. It is still running.

Thank you for your answer.
Eva

>
>
> On 7/9/12 9:46 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
>> With the mentioned below options I get the following error:
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> 1 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times the
>> cut-off
>> out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension
>> x.
>> This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
>>
>>
>> But it does not occur immediatly but only at step
>>
>> Step 695, time 1.39 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
>> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
>> rms 2.011725, max 78.611298 (between atoms 3778 and 3781)
>> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>>   atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>> 3782   3785   92.21.3061   0.2785  0.1090
>> 3782   3784   93.00.1055   0.2552  0.1090
>> 3782   3783   91.00.1062   0.3086  0.1090
>> 3204   3206   89.60.1449   1.0256  0.1449
>> 3204   3205   89.70.1010   0.9949  0.1010
>>
>>
>> Is there something wrong with my temperature coupling?
>>
>
> I doubt it.  Decrease your timestep (as I've said twice now) and try again
> with
> something sensible for dt.
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Re: [gmx-users] Reg dimers

2012-07-09 Thread Ramya LN
Thanks a lot Justin

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 7/9/12 9:48 AM, Ramya LN wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> I have done protein-ligand dynamics.I got the final gro file.When
>> converted to PDB, i observed that my active site has ligand but two
>> chains of teh protein got separated. What might be the reason for
>> this?should i consider this as an error in my simulation???kindly help
>> me in this regard.
>>
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions
>
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Re: [gmx-users] Reg dimers

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 9:48 AM, Ramya LN wrote:

Dear all,
I have done protein-ligand dynamics.I got the final gro file.When
converted to PDB, i observed that my active site has ligand but two
chains of teh protein got separated. What might be the reason for
this?should i consider this as an error in my simulation???kindly help
me in this regard.



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 9:46 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:

With the mentioned below options I get the following error:

Fatal error:
1 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off
out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.


But it does not occur immediatly but only at step

Step 695, time 1.39 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 2.011725, max 78.611298 (between atoms 3778 and 3781)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
3782   3785   92.21.3061   0.2785  0.1090
3782   3784   93.00.1055   0.2552  0.1090
3782   3783   91.00.1062   0.3086  0.1090
3204   3206   89.60.1449   1.0256  0.1449
3204   3205   89.70.1010   0.9949  0.1010


Is there something wrong with my temperature coupling?



I doubt it.  Decrease your timestep (as I've said twice now) and try again with 
something sensible for dt.


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[gmx-users] Reg dimers

2012-07-09 Thread Ramya LN
Dear all,
I have done protein-ligand dynamics.I got the final gro file.When
converted to PDB, i observed that my active site has ligand but two
chains of teh protein got separated. What might be the reason for
this?should i consider this as an error in my simulation???kindly help
me in this regard.

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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
With the mentioned below options I get the following error:

Fatal error:
1 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off
out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.


But it does not occur immediatly but only at step

Step 695, time 1.39 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 2.011725, max 78.611298 (between atoms 3778 and 3781)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
   3782   3785   92.21.3061   0.2785  0.1090
   3782   3784   93.00.1055   0.2552  0.1090
   3782   3783   91.00.1062   0.3086  0.1090
   3204   3206   89.60.1449   1.0256  0.1449
   3204   3205   89.70.1010   0.9949  0.1010


Is there something wrong with my temperature coupling?

Thank you,
Eva

> Hi Justin,
>  okey then I will try it with this timestep.
> No it is not my goal to do a NVE. I already had temperature coupling
> options in my .mdp file but on the blowing up side was written "you are
> using inappropriate temperature coupling" so I thought that that might be
> the reason and deleted it from my .mdp file.
>
> I had the following temperature coupling options:
>
> tcoupl  = V-rescale
> tc-grps = Protein  Non-Protein
> tau_t   = 0.1  0.1
> ref_t   = 298  298
> pcoupl  = no
>
>
>
> Thank you for your answer.
> Eva
>
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/12 9:25 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>> I want to do a md for a protein with a membrane around it.
>>> I already minimised the energy of the protein.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Output of the minimization:
>>>
>>> ^MStep=  812, Dmax= 1.4e-06 nm, Epot= -7.59283e+05 Fmax= 3.59781e+02,
>>> atom= 1653
>>> Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
>>> Converged to machine precision,
>>> but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10
>>>
>>> Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
>>> You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
>>> off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)
>>>
>>> writing lowest energy coordinates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 813 steps,
>>> but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
>>> Potential Energy  = -7.5928356e+05
>>> Maximum force =  3.6197971e+02 on atom 1653
>>> Norm of force =  2.6517429e+00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my eyes this output was okey so I went on with the md.
>>> And here I get the error:
>>>
>>> Fatal error:
>>> A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition steps
>>> This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I already read the error page for this error and also the blowing up
>>> page
>>> but I still do not know what to do now.
>>>
>>> My .mdp file for the md runs looks like this:
>>>
>>> define  = -DPOSRES
>>> integrator  = md
>>> dt  = 0.005
>>
>> This timestep is huge.  Even with constraints, you probably can't exceed
>> 2
>> fs
>> stably (0.002 ps).
>>
>>> nsteps  = 2000
>>> nstxout = 0
>>> nstvout = 0
>>> nstfout = 0
>>> nstlog  = 1000
>>> nstxtcout   = 0
>>> nstenergy   = 5
>>> energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
>>> nstcalcenergy   = 5
>>> nstlist = 10
>>> ns-type = Grid
>>> pbc = xyz
>>> rlist   = 0.9
>>> coulombtype = PME
>>> rcoulomb= 0.9
>>> rvdw= 0.9
>>> fourierspacing  = 0.12
>>> pme_order   = 4
>>> ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
>>> gen_vel = yes
>>> gen_temp= 200.0
>>> gen_seed= 
>>> constraints = all-bonds
>>>
>>>
>>> Are here any optinos which can cause the error?
>>>
>>
>> In the absence of temperature and/or pressure coupling, the ensemble
>> you're
>> trying to simulate is NVE, which is very tricky to get stabilized.
>>
>> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/NVE
>>
>> If you're not going for an NVE ensemble, you need several adjustments in
>> the
>> .mdp file.  See any basic tutorial for examples of how to simulate other
>> ensembles, if this is your goal.
>>
>> -Justin
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 9:40 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:

Hi Justin,
  okey then I will try it with this timestep.
No it is not my goal to do a NVE. I already had temperature coupling
options in my .mdp file but on the blowing up side was written "you are
using inappropriate temperature coupling" so I thought that that might be
the reason and deleted it from my .mdp file.



Temperature coupling in itself is not the source of the problem, but what is 
stated on the wiki is that inappropriate use of it can lead to instability.  The 
settings below look fine.  I think your biggest problem is the large timestep.


-Justin


I had the following temperature coupling options:

tcoupl  = V-rescale
tc-grps = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t   = 0.1  0.1
ref_t   = 298  298
pcoupl  = no



Thank you for your answer.
Eva




On 7/9/12 9:25 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:

Hi everybody,
I want to do a md for a protein with a membrane around it.
I already minimised the energy of the protein.



Output of the minimization:

^MStep=  812, Dmax= 1.4e-06 nm, Epot= -7.59283e+05 Fmax= 3.59781e+02,
atom= 1653
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.


Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 813 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
Potential Energy  = -7.5928356e+05
Maximum force =  3.6197971e+02 on atom 1653
Norm of force =  2.6517429e+00





In my eyes this output was okey so I went on with the md.
And here I get the error:

Fatal error:
A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition steps
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated




I already read the error page for this error and also the blowing up
page
but I still do not know what to do now.

My .mdp file for the md runs looks like this:

define  = -DPOSRES
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.005


This timestep is huge.  Even with constraints, you probably can't exceed 2
fs
stably (0.002 ps).


nsteps  = 2000
nstxout = 0
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstlog  = 1000
nstxtcout   = 0
nstenergy   = 5
energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
nstcalcenergy   = 5
nstlist = 10
ns-type = Grid
pbc = xyz
rlist   = 0.9
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 0.9
rvdw= 0.9
fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp= 200.0
gen_seed= 
constraints = all-bonds


Are here any optinos which can cause the error?



In the absence of temperature and/or pressure coupling, the ensemble
you're
trying to simulate is NVE, which is very tricky to get stabilized.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/NVE

If you're not going for an NVE ensemble, you need several adjustments in
the
.mdp file.  See any basic tutorial for examples of how to simulate other
ensembles, if this is your goal.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
Hi Justin,
 okey then I will try it with this timestep.
No it is not my goal to do a NVE. I already had temperature coupling
options in my .mdp file but on the blowing up side was written "you are
using inappropriate temperature coupling" so I thought that that might be
the reason and deleted it from my .mdp file.

I had the following temperature coupling options:

tcoupl  = V-rescale
tc-grps = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t   = 0.1  0.1
ref_t   = 298  298
pcoupl  = no



Thank you for your answer.
Eva

>
>
> On 7/9/12 9:25 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> I want to do a md for a protein with a membrane around it.
>> I already minimised the energy of the protein.
>>
>>
>>
>> Output of the minimization:
>>
>> ^MStep=  812, Dmax= 1.4e-06 nm, Epot= -7.59283e+05 Fmax= 3.59781e+02,
>> atom= 1653
>> Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
>> Converged to machine precision,
>> but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10
>>
>> Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
>> You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
>> off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)
>>
>> writing lowest energy coordinates.
>>
>>
>> Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 813 steps,
>> but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
>> Potential Energy  = -7.5928356e+05
>> Maximum force =  3.6197971e+02 on atom 1653
>> Norm of force =  2.6517429e+00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In my eyes this output was okey so I went on with the md.
>> And here I get the error:
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition steps
>> This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I already read the error page for this error and also the blowing up
>> page
>> but I still do not know what to do now.
>>
>> My .mdp file for the md runs looks like this:
>>
>> define  = -DPOSRES
>> integrator  = md
>> dt  = 0.005
>
> This timestep is huge.  Even with constraints, you probably can't exceed 2
> fs
> stably (0.002 ps).
>
>> nsteps  = 2000
>> nstxout = 0
>> nstvout = 0
>> nstfout = 0
>> nstlog  = 1000
>> nstxtcout   = 0
>> nstenergy   = 5
>> energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
>> nstcalcenergy   = 5
>> nstlist = 10
>> ns-type = Grid
>> pbc = xyz
>> rlist   = 0.9
>> coulombtype = PME
>> rcoulomb= 0.9
>> rvdw= 0.9
>> fourierspacing  = 0.12
>> pme_order   = 4
>> ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
>> gen_vel = yes
>> gen_temp= 200.0
>> gen_seed= 
>> constraints = all-bonds
>>
>>
>> Are here any optinos which can cause the error?
>>
>
> In the absence of temperature and/or pressure coupling, the ensemble
> you're
> trying to simulate is NVE, which is very tricky to get stabilized.
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/NVE
>
> If you're not going for an NVE ensemble, you need several adjustments in
> the
> .mdp file.  See any basic tutorial for examples of how to simulate other
> ensembles, if this is your goal.
>
> -Justin
>
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>
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> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 9:25 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:

Hi everybody,
I want to do a md for a protein with a membrane around it.
I already minimised the energy of the protein.



Output of the minimization:

^MStep=  812, Dmax= 1.4e-06 nm, Epot= -7.59283e+05 Fmax= 3.59781e+02,
atom= 1653
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.


Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 813 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
Potential Energy  = -7.5928356e+05
Maximum force =  3.6197971e+02 on atom 1653
Norm of force =  2.6517429e+00





In my eyes this output was okey so I went on with the md.
And here I get the error:

Fatal error:
A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition steps
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated




I already read the error page for this error and also the blowing up page
but I still do not know what to do now.

My .mdp file for the md runs looks like this:

define  = -DPOSRES
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.005


This timestep is huge.  Even with constraints, you probably can't exceed 2 fs 
stably (0.002 ps).



nsteps  = 2000
nstxout = 0
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstlog  = 1000
nstxtcout   = 0
nstenergy   = 5
energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
nstcalcenergy   = 5
nstlist = 10
ns-type = Grid
pbc = xyz
rlist   = 0.9
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 0.9
rvdw= 0.9
fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp= 200.0
gen_seed= 
constraints = all-bonds


Are here any optinos which can cause the error?



In the absence of temperature and/or pressure coupling, the ensemble you're 
trying to simulate is NVE, which is very tricky to get stabilized.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/NVE

If you're not going for an NVE ensemble, you need several adjustments in the 
.mdp file.  See any basic tutorial for examples of how to simulate other 
ensembles, if this is your goal.


-Justin

--


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[gmx-users] error in mdrun (2)

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
When I run the md run again I get still the already mentioned error and
additionally this one:

Fatal error:
66 particles communicated to PME node 2 are more than 2/3 times the
cut-off out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in
dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.


I really don't know how to equilibrate it better.

Thank you,
Eva

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[gmx-users] error in mdrun

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
Hi everybody,
I want to do a md for a protein with a membrane around it.
I already minimised the energy of the protein.



Output of the minimization:

^MStep=  812, Dmax= 1.4e-06 nm, Epot= -7.59283e+05 Fmax= 3.59781e+02,
atom= 1653
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.


Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 813 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
Potential Energy  = -7.5928356e+05
Maximum force =  3.6197971e+02 on atom 1653
Norm of force =  2.6517429e+00





In my eyes this output was okey so I went on with the md.
And here I get the error:

Fatal error:
A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition steps
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated




I already read the error page for this error and also the blowing up page
but I still do not know what to do now.

My .mdp file for the md runs looks like this:

define  = -DPOSRES
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.005
nsteps  = 2000
nstxout = 0
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstlog  = 1000
nstxtcout   = 0
nstenergy   = 5
energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
nstcalcenergy   = 5
nstlist = 10
ns-type = Grid
pbc = xyz
rlist   = 0.9
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 0.9
rvdw= 0.9
fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp= 200.0
gen_seed= 
constraints = all-bonds


Are here any optinos which can cause the error?

Bests,
Eva

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Re: [gmx-users] define a new residue

2012-07-09 Thread Shima Arasteh
Hi :)
I got the parameters of the first 3 residues of the peptide and when I got 
0.008e for total charge of the first 2 residues ( formyl and valine). It is 
expected to be zero. 

Is the 0.008e acceptable? Or I look for an other way to get the correct 
parameters and charges?


Thaankks! :)
 

Sincerely,
Shima



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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] define a new residue



On 7/8/12 12:43 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> OK.
> What about generating an output file through CGenFF by the first 3 residues 
> of the protein, rather thn the first 2 (formyl+valine)?
> 
> 

Maybe.  Try it and see, rather than waiting a few hours for someone to get 
around to replying :)

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Re: [gmx-users] force field parametrs for Mn2+

2012-07-09 Thread andrea spitaleri

Hi,
we published recently a paper where we determined the oplsaa parameters for 
Mn2+;
have look to (supp mat):

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201202032/abstract


hope it helps


On 07/09/2012 12:21 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:

Dear All,


Please suggest me any paper/article that contains force field
parameters for Mn 2+ .

Thanks



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Re: [gmx-users] large radius problem

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 7:09 AM, siddhant jain wrote:

I was performing simulations on urea unfolding of protein. I performed
one set of simulation for 50 ns with a velocity (set by gen_seed) and
it went fine.
Now when I am doing simulation using a different gen_seed from 10 to
20 ns many long bonds are formed. I could visualize them in vmd.
Subsequently rmsd and radius of gyration plots also show the large
change. But,  energy is almost constant during the whole time period.
Also after 20 ns this problem goes by itself and all bonds become
normal. Why it could be so and how could I correct it. These bonds are
so long that radius of gyration changes from 1.2 nm to 3.5 nm.



That sounds like a PBC issue to me.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

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[gmx-users] large radius problem

2012-07-09 Thread siddhant jain
I was performing simulations on urea unfolding of protein. I performed
one set of simulation for 50 ns with a velocity (set by gen_seed) and
it went fine.
Now when I am doing simulation using a different gen_seed from 10 to
20 ns many long bonds are formed. I could visualize them in vmd.
Subsequently rmsd and radius of gyration plots also show the large
change. But,  energy is almost constant during the whole time period.
Also after 20 ns this problem goes by itself and all bonds become
normal. Why it could be so and how could I correct it. These bonds are
so long that radius of gyration changes from 1.2 nm to 3.5 nm.

Thanking all in advance
Siddhant
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Re: [gmx-users] Peptide folding simulation

2012-07-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/9/12 12:02 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

Hi,


I have been trying to study folding of a peptide 24 residues long. I
did  a  simulation of 50 ns with explicit solvent, CHARMM FF, but I
was not able to find even a single folding event. Then I decided use
explicit solvent for simulation and I again simulated the peptide for
100 ns . This time again I ended with no folding events.


  I know that in case of explicit solvent , a 50ns simulation time is
not enough to observe anything. But I did it to see the initial
behavior of the peptide in water. In take many random like
conformation but doesnot fold into a desired beta-hairpin. For the
explicit solvent simulation, I followed the lysozyme tutorial
parameters.



You shouldn't.  The .mdp settings are appropriate for OPLS-AA, not CHARMM.


For implicit solvent simulation, I used the following parameters for
Energy minimization  :

  define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
  constraints =  none
  integrator  =  steep
  dt  =  0.001; ps
  nsteps  =  3
  vdwtype =  cut-off
  coulombtype =  cut-off
  pbc =  no
  nstlist =  0
  ns_type =  simple
  rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off),
which   gets expensive for bigger systems
  rcoulomb=  0
  rvdw=  0
  comm-mode   =  angular
  comm-grps   =  Protein
  optimize_fft=  yes
  ;
  ;   Energy minimizing stuff
  ;
  emtol   =  5.0
  emstep  =  0.01
  ;
  ; Implicit solvent
  ;
  implicit_solvent=  GBSA
  gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
  nstgbradii  =  1
  rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born  radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
  gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit  solvent
   ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent  models, currently not used
  sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
  sa_surface_tension  = -1



For MD I used the following : -


define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
  constraints =  none
  integrator  =  md
  dt  =  0.001   ; ps
  nsteps  =  10 ; 10 ps = 100 ns
  nstcomm =  10
  nstcalcenergy   =  10
  nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
  trajectory
  nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
  trajectory; the last velocities are always written
  nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
  trajectory
  nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
  file
  nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

  vdwtype =  cut-off
  coulombtype =  cut-off

  pbc =  no

  nstlist =  0
  ns_type =  simple
  rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
  gets expensive for bigger systems
  rcoulomb=  0
  rvdw=  0

  comm-mode   =  angular
  comm-grps   =  system

  optimize_fft=  yes

  ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
  Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
  tau_t   =  0.1
  tc_grps =  system
  ref_t   =  300
  ; Pressure coupling is off
  Pcoupl  =  no
  ; Generate velocites is on
  gen_vel =  yes
  gen_temp=  300
  gen_seed=  -1

  ;
  ; Implicit solvent
  ;
  implicit_solvent=  GBSA
  gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
  nstgbradii  =  1
  rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
  gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit   solvent
  ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
  sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
  sa_surface_tension  = -1

So, finally I want to know where have I gone in my simulation
experiments, both implicit and explicit ?? ... Please reply .



What evidence do you have that you should expect to see a folding event in such 
a short time?  Most people will use more extensive sampling methods like REMD to 
observe peptide folding.


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[gmx-users] force field parametrs for Mn2+

2012-07-09 Thread tarak karmakar
Dear All,


Please suggest me any paper/article that contains force field
parameters for Mn 2+ .

Thanks

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[gmx-users] Peptide folding simulation

2012-07-09 Thread intra\sa175950
Hi 

To see folding events in your (very) long peptide in explicit solvent,
without doing long MD (> 100 ns), you will need to use more complex MD
approach such as REMD or metadynamics. REMD is implemented in gromacs, but
for the latter one, you can use plumed with GROMACS.

See for example http://www.plumed-code.org/

HTH 

Stephane

 

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I have been trying to study folding of a peptide 24 residues long. I
did  a  simulation of 50 ns with explicit solvent, CHARMM FF, but I
was not able to find even a single folding event. Then I decided use
explicit solvent for simulation and I again simulated the peptide for
100 ns . This time again I ended with no folding events.


 I know that in case of explicit solvent , a 50ns simulation time is
not enough to observe anything. But I did it to see the initial
behavior of the peptide in water. In take many random like
conformation but doesnot fold into a desired beta-hairpin. For the
explicit solvent simulation, I followed the lysozyme tutorial
parameters.

For implicit solvent simulation, I used the following parameters for
Energy minimization  :

 define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
 constraints =  none
 integrator  =  steep
 dt  =  0.001; ps
 nsteps  =  3
 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off
 pbc =  no
 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off),
which   gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0
 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  Protein
 optimize_fft=  yes
 ;
 ;   Energy minimizing stuff
 ;
 emtol   =  5.0
 emstep  =  0.01
 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born  radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit
solvent
  ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent  models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = -1



For MD I used the following : -


define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
 constraints =  none
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.001   ; ps
 nsteps  =  10 ; 10 ps = 100 ns
 nstcomm =  10
 nstcalcenergy   =  10
 nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
 trajectory
 nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
 nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
 trajectory
 nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
 file
 nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off

 pbc =  no

 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
 gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0

 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  system

 optimize_fft=  yes

 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
 tau_t   =  0.1
 tc_grps =  system
 ref_t   =  300
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 Pcoupl  =  no
 ; Generate velocites is on
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300
 gen_seed=  -1

 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit
solvent
 ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = -1

So, finally I want to know where have I gone in my simulation
experiments, both implicit and explicit ?? ... Please reply .





BHARAT



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[gmx-users] About lipid simulation npt.mdp

2012-07-09 Thread rama david
Hi Gromacs friends,

I am trying to  reproduced the result of article  ¨Antimicrobial
peptide in Action¨
Published in JACS, 2006,128, 12156-12161, doi no = 10.1021/ja062927q

As per article they used two conditions,

1. Stress free ( Lateral  Tension = 0)
2. Stress condition ( Lateral  tension = 20 mNm/m)

parameter for simulation as follow,

Weakly coupled temp 323 k ( Coupling time = 0.1)
Weakly coupled press ( Coupling time = 0.5 Compressibility 5 e-5 bar -1)

Keep the P|| ( lateral press ) and  Pz( Perpendicular press ) same
P||  = Pz = 1 ,
Result will be stress free bilayer ( Lateral  Tension = 0).

For other condition of P||  =   -30  Pz = 1 , result in a lateral tension of
20 mNm/m

for stress free condition I made following npt.mdp
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= Berendsen; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps= Protein DPPCSOL_CL; three coupling groups -
more accurate
tau_t= 0.10.10.1; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 323 323323; reference temperature,
one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl=  Berendsen; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype= semiisotropic; uniform scaling of x-y box
vectors, independent z
tau_p= 0.5; time constant, in ps
ref_p= 1.01.0; reference pressure, x-y, z (in bar)
compressibility = 5.0e-55.0e-5; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1


And for stress condition I made the following npt.mdp

; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= Berendsen; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps= Protein DPPCSOL_CL; three coupling groups -
more accurate
tau_t= 0.10.10.1; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 323 323323; reference temperature,
one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl=  Berendsen; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype= semiisotropic; uniform scaling of x-y box
vectors, independent z
tau_p= 0.5; time constant, in ps
ref_p=  -30.01.0; reference pressure, x-y,
z (in bar)
compressibility = 5.0e-55.0e-5; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1


Please help to make right npt.mdp from above  mention parameter.


I read the Gromacs manual for 4.5.4, Section 3.4 page no 33,
Surface tension coupling work with only Berendsen Press coupling.

Please , would you tell me how to calculate lateral surface tension from
P|| ( lateral press ) and  Pz( Perpendicular press )  ???
( Why to say  P||  =   -30  Pz = 1 , will give the teral tension of
20 mNm/m  ???)


Please give me the valuable suggestion in these regard

Thank you in advance.

Have a nice Day.
With best wishes and regards,


Rama David
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[gmx-users] specifying the direction of Pull in US

2012-07-09 Thread Thomas Schlesier
If you want to pull along a vector which connects to groups, the easiest 
way is to run 'g_dist' over your starting *.gro file.
this measures the distance and the vector connecting both groups. From 
GROMACS-4.0.x you don't need to normalise the vector. So you can 
directly use this vector.

greetings
thomas


Thanks for ur suggestion Justin,

I'm facing trouble in setting that vector, actually I cant figure out how
can i set up a vector. Is there any easier way with which i can set up a
vector. Thanks


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Re: [gmx-users] Fast Question on g_msd

2012-07-09 Thread Javier Cerezo

Both behaviours are possible. Check the -mol option.

Javier

El 08/07/12 18:30, Ivan Gladich escribió:


Dear all
I am running a simulation of water slab, i.e. a water system with two 
air/vacuum interface, using a 5 site water model.
I am doing a simple test calculating the water diffusivity by mean 
square displacement in different regions of my water slab.
In order to do, I created an index that contains all the atoms of the 
water molecules that belong to a certain region using g_select


g_select -select " all and same residue as (y>2.5 and y<12.5)" -on 
select_index.ndx


At the end, my select_index.ndx contains all the atoms of all the 
water molecules that are between 2.5 and 12.5 nm

[all]
1 2 3 4 5 11 12 13 14 15 .

After that, I calculate the diffusivity of all the waters that belong 
to this region.

g_msd -n select_index.ndx -s topol.tpr

I have a silly question.
1) Does g_msd calculate the means square displacement of all the atom 
that are select_index.ndx (and then it takes the average of all of them)?


OR

2)does g_msd read the topol.tpr, recognize that the atoms in 
select_index.ndx belong to specific water molecules and so, it 
calculate the msd based on the displacement of
the center of mass of each water molecule (and then it takes the 
average)?


Sorry, I tried to find something in the archive but I was able (or 
lucky) to find something.

Thanks for any possible help
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Re: [gmx-users] error in grompp

2012-07-09 Thread reisingere
Hi Justin,
thank you very much for your help!!

>
>
> On 7/8/12 6:02 AM, reising...@rostlab.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>> thank you for your answer.
>>
>> Now I tried it with two different restraint .itp files. One for the
>> protein and one for the dummy atoms.
>> But still it doesn't work. Now the error is:
>>
>> [ file posre_memb.itp, line 5 ]:
>> Atom index (4942) in position_restraints out of bounds (1-1).
>> This probably means that you have inserted topology section
>> "position_restraints"
>> in a part belonging to a different molecule than you intended to.
>> In that case move the "position_restraints" section to the right
>> molecule.
>>
>>
>> But I think I included it the right way:
>>
>>
>> ; Include Position restraint file
>> #ifdef POSRES
>> #include "posre.itp"
>> #endif
>>
>> ; Include water topology
>> #include "amber03.ff/tip3p.itp"
>>
>> #ifdef POSRES_WATER
>> ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
>> [ position_restraints ]
>> ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
>> 11   1000   1000   1000
>> #endif
>>
>> ; Include topology for ions
>> #include "amber03.ff/ions.itp"
>>
>> #include "amber03.ff/dum.itp"
>> #ifdef POSRES
>> #include "posre_memb.itp"
>> #endif
>>
>>
>>
>> In my coordiate file the difference between them look like this:
>>
>> 313LEU   HD23 4938   3.813   4.505   3.308
>>313LEU  C 4939   3.435   4.335   3.190
>>313LEUOC1 4940   3.429   4.330   3.090
>>313LEUOC2 4941   3.337   4.305   3.259
>>314DUMDUM 4942   1.996   2.371   6.171
>>314DUMDUM 4943   1.996   2.371   6.271
>>314DUMDUM 4944   1.996   2.471   6.171
>>314DUMDUM 4945   1.996   2.471   6.271
>>
>>
>> my restraint file for the protein looks like this:
>>
>>
>> ; position restraints for Protein-H of GROup of MAchos and Cynical
>> Suckers
>>
>> [ position_restraints ]
>> ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
>> 11   1000   1000   1000
>> 41   1000   1000   1000
>> 71   1000   1000   1000
>>101   1000   1000   1000
>>131   1000   1000   1000
>>
>>
>> and my restraint file for the dummy atoms look like this:
>>
>> ; position restraints for Protein-H of GROup of MAchos and Cynical
>> Suckers
>>
>> [ position_restraints ]
>> ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
>> 49421   1000   1000   1000
>> 49431   1000   1000   1000
>> 49441   1000   1000   1000
>> 49451   1000   1000   1000
>>
>>
>> What is wrong?
>>
>
> Atom numbering is done per [moleculetype] and has nothing to do with the
> atom
> numbers in the coordinate file.  If you have a one-atom dummy
> [moleculetype],
> then the only valid content of posre_memb.itp is:
>
> [ position_restraints ]
> ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
> 11   1000   1000   1000
>
> -Justin
>
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> 
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
>
> 
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