[gmx-users] Re: Error in Membrane simulations with POPC bilayer

2012-07-13 Thread J Peterson
Hi Justin,

I have another doubt on the strong posres that was included in the topology
file. When do we need to remove that position restraint? Does it really
affect at point of time the system?

Thanks

Peterson J

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[gmx-users] Re: Water molecules cannot be settled, why?

2012-07-13 Thread John Ladasky

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:32:35 +0200
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Water molecules cannot be settled, why?
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> Hi John, Check where the unsettling water molecule is placed.
> If it's in the protein. that may be the cause of the problem.
> Otherwise, it's some of the other stuff you're doing, but rule
> out the simple things first.
> Cheers, Tsjerk

Thank you Tsjerk, I am proceeding with your recommendation.  I looked at 
two different simulations which crashed.  The unsettled water molecules 
appear to be far from the protein in all cases.


As the details of the protocol in the last message that I posted showed, 
I'm using five CPU cores for my simulations.  So the domain 
decomposition in mdrun is 5 x 1 x 1.  When the simulations crash, the 
error handling routine outputs only the domain which contains the 
unsettled water molecule.  In the first simulation that I examined, the 
domain was all solvent.  No protein atoms were present.


The crash occurred on step 81,240 of my final molecular dynamics run, 
and the atom that was identified as a problem was number 45191.  So I 
looked at the two PDB files that were dumped, and searched for atom 
45191.  I think that the first file describes the system immediately 
before the crash, and the second file shows the results of the bad 
calculations, am I correct?  Here is a selected portion of each file, 
showing atom 45191 and its neighbors:


step81240b_n4.pdb

ATOM  41009  OW  SOL 1  74.590  46.654  65.507
ATOM  41010  HW1 SOL 1  74.580  47.272  66.294
ATOM  41011  HW2 SOL 1  73.700  46.205  65.425
ATOM  43679  OW  SOL 1  71.579  49.011  70.894
ATOM  43680  HW1 SOL 1  71.730  49.197  69.924
ATOM  43681  HW2 SOL 1  71.013  49.735  71.288
ATOM  45191  OW  SOL 1  72.656  46.524  71.131
ATOM  45192  HW1 SOL 1  72.614  45.938  70.322
ATOM  45193  HW2 SOL 1  72.389  47.455  70.883
ATOM   6926  OW  SOL 1  75.926  46.701  73.317
ATOM   6927  HW1 SOL 1  75.024  46.674  72.886
ATOM   6928  HW2 SOL 1  76.564  47.194  72.724
ATOM  16016  OW  SOL 1  73.244  51.473  72.961
ATOM  16017  HW1 SOL 1  73.712  51.310  72.092
ATOM  16018  HW2 SOL 1  73.472  52.387  73.296

step81240c_n4.pdb

ATOM  41009  OW  SOL 1  74.582  46.669  65.502
ATOM  41010  HW1 SOL 1  74.582  47.320  66.260
ATOM  41011  HW2 SOL 1  73.689  46.221  65.445
ATOM  43679  OW  SOL 1-66321836.00084864872.00046148104.000
ATOM  43680  HW1 SOL 1  71.706  49.216  69.937
ATOM  43681  HW2 SOL 1 1085546624.000-1490344960.000-271069120.000
ATOM  45191  OW  SOL 1-176865.797532401.250-1222093.250
ATOM  45192  HW1 SOL 119264928.000-53927836.000125858544.000
ATOM  45193  HW2 SOL 1  72.351  47.488  70.877
ATOM   6926  OW  SOL 1  75.925  46.703  73.302
ATOM   6927  HW1 SOL 1  75.021  46.680  72.875
ATOM   6928  HW2 SOL 1  76.562  47.196  72.710
ATOM  16016  OW  SOL 1  73.240  51.478  72.957
ATOM  16017  HW1 SOL 1  73.728  51.296  72.103
ATOM  16018  HW2 SOL 1  73.442  52.407  73.266

WOW.  Something went seriously wrong with four atoms in that step. Are 
those even coordinates?  For some reason, atom 45191 was selected as the 
one to trigger the crash report.  I looked through the whole PDB file 
for other problems, and I found one more oxygen atom in another water 
molecule which had similarly wild coordinates.  It was half-way across 
the domain, not even a neighbor of atom 45191.


I had a look at atom 45191 in PyMol, and there was nothing obviously 
wrong with its position right before the crash. Stereo image here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/15579975@N00/7553843726/

In the second crashed simulation, only a single abnormal atom was found 
in the PDB file.  The domain containing that water molecule did contain 
a part of the protein, but the water molecule was nowhere near the 
protein.  Here's an image of that domain (unsettled water molecule 
marked with an amber sphere):


http://www.flickr.com/photos/15579975@N00/7554770182/

I hope that helps to narrow down the problem.  Thanks again.

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[gmx-users] Some interactions seem to be assigned multiple times

2012-07-13 Thread Shima Arasteh

Dear gmx users,


My system is composed of a protein and water. I am working with CHARMM36 and 
the current version of Gromacs, 4.5.5.
For NVT equilibration , I get this error:

"Software inconsistency error:
 Some interactions seem to be assigned multiple times"


Through the mailing list, I just found that some bugs might be the reason of 
the error, and the Gromacs version should be current. But as I said I use the 
current version of Gromacs. I really don't have any idea for solving this 
problem.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sincerely,
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Final state not reached in pulling simulation

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 2:32 AM, Neeru Sharma wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thanks for the suggestion regarding the pull force.
1)I will try by reducing the pull force to 1000 and 100 KJmol/nm2 now.
Regarding the force being applied in z-direction, after visualizing my
trajectory i thought it would work by providing force in z-direction.
2)Regarding the protein rotation, it does not rotate over the time. There
are just some localized changes in it.
3)Regarding the distance measurement, I am measuring the distance between
the specific atoms of the residue and the atoms of the GTP. Till now, these
distances as well as the overall protein geometry is maintained well in the
range too.
4)If this kind of pulling does not work out in my case, I will again try it
with using "position" geometry too with pull_vec1.

Can you suggest why have I not reached the final distance at the end of the
simulation? Is it because of the geometry that I have used, because the
force constant is already too high in this case?



I don't know why this is happening.  That's why you need to try more things to 
see if you can root out the issue.  There are a whole host of factors that can 
act against the pulling force.  You're not using any sort of position 
restraints, are you?


The other thing to keep in mind is that if your initial distance is 0.7 nm, and 
you pull for 10 ns at 0.05 nm/ns, you should in theory end up with a distance of 
0.2 nm, not 0.3 nm.  That is, assuming that the pulled group is free to move and 
thus smoothly goes along with the spring.  Other forces within the structure may 
act in opposition.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error in Membrane simulations with POPC bilayer

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 1:44 AM, J Peterson wrote:

Thanks for the comment. By the way how to make a bigger box at this time of
the tutorial without affecting any part of the system. Can I use editconf
with slightly bigger number for z-axis (something like 6.7 which was 5.7
before)?



The box should be sufficiently large so as to avoid spurious interactions across 
periodic boundaries.  The size is thus motivated by the length of the cutoffs 
used.  Increasing the box by 1.0 nm might be just enough, but you should 
calculate this very carefully.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error in Membrane simulations with POPC bilayer

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 4:14 AM, J Peterson wrote:

Hi Justin,

I have another doubt on the strong posres that was included in the topology
file. When do we need to remove that position restraint? Does it really
affect at point of time the system?



The strong restraints are only needed for InflateGRO.  During equilibration, 
position restraints with a normal magnitude are appropriate.


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Re: [gmx-users] Melting simulations - regd

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 2:27 AM, sukumar rapolu wrote:

Hello gmx users,

I am doing melting simulations of a polymer in gromacs, for this am
giving output from a  production run of  particular temperature as the
input for equilibration at  next temperature and generating velocities
in equilibration at each temperature by using gen_vel = yes.
  Here my doubt is, as I am using output from production  as input for
equilibration so do I have to use   continuation= yes in my
equilibration mdp file or as I am generating velocities at each
temperature during equilibration do I have to use   continuation=
no ?



If you're using the structure from a previous run that used constraints, the 
difference between these two settings should be minimal.  But since you're 
basically starting totally new simulations, you can't go wrong with 
"continuation = no."


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[gmx-users] Re: Error in Membrane simulations with POPC bilayer

2012-07-13 Thread J Peterson
Thanks Justin,

The explanations are very very useful during my course of simulating a
protein with POPC.

I also would like to get explanation on how to simulate a protein which has
only its N-terminal region embedded in the membrane but the rest in solvent.

What is the easy and accurate way to do it?

Thanks

Peterson J



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error in Membrane simulations with POPC bilayer

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 6:44 AM, J Peterson wrote:

Thanks Justin,

The explanations are very very useful during my course of simulating a
protein with POPC.

I also would like to get explanation on how to simulate a protein which has
only its N-terminal region embedded in the membrane but the rest in solvent.

What is the easy and accurate way to do it?



Position the protein with editconf -center and follow all the other steps in the 
same way.  The dimensions of the box become quite important in such a case. 
There are some general tips on such placement in another of my tutorials:


http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/biphasic/03_tricks.html

-Justin

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[gmx-users] NVT with shape fluctuations

2012-07-13 Thread J Benet
Hi, I would like to know if it's possible to perform an NVT simulation but
letting the box shape to fluctuate. 
Thank you

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[gmx-users] Any ways to read/convert .g96 file format and keep the precision?

2012-07-13 Thread Markus Kaukonen
Reading trajectories in .g96 format is broken. Please use a different
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[gmx-users] Re: Any ways to read/convert .g96 file format and keep the precision?

2012-07-13 Thread Markus Kaukonen
Sorry about double posting, I have some problems with my laptop...

Question:
Are there any ways to read/convert positions in .g96 file format and
keep the precision (%15.9f)
for a structure to be read by mdrun -rerun myfile.g96  ?

I get an annoying error message:
>Reading trajectories in .g96 format is broken. Please use a different file 
>format.
with mdrun and trjconv

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[gmx-users] Re: Final state not reached in pulling simulation

2012-07-13 Thread Neeru Sharma
Thanks Justin for all your comments and suggestion.

I am not using any position restraints as of now.
But I will try out more parameters and more options. Thanks again.

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Re: [gmx-users] mdrun graceful exit

2012-07-13 Thread Elton Carvalho
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mark Abraham  wrote:
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> Possibly not. This might be another instance of the GROMACS team having not
> put much effort into the EM code on the theory that it doesn't run for long
> enough, so have enough time for developer effort to pay off in significantly
> better user experience, given most people's workflows.
>

Thanks, Mark.

Probably I'll add a feature request in redmine then, since I have no
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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it. But
unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem exists.
Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.

Thank you
With Regards
Kavya


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> Dear Sir,
>
> Thank you It worked :). a very usefull suggestion.
> But it did not promt to choose any option. I used
> index file.
>
> Thank you
> Kavya
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/12 8:31 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok may be i need to specify an index file. I will try that.
>>> And regarding the WARNING: this .tpx file is not fully functional.
>>> I hope it will work fine enough to finish g_saltbr calculation?
>>>
>>
>> In principle, you should be prompted to choose a default group, but you can
>> also use a custom index group as needed.
>>
>> The warning message is intended to note that the .tpr file you produce will
>> not likely work for running an actual simulation.  It should be fine for
>> analysis.
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 11:50 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it. But
unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem exists.
Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.



How long is the trajectory?  How many frames?  What is the size of the file on 
disk?  It sounds to me like you're simply exhausting available memory, so the 
only advice is in the link I posted before - use fewer frames or use a machine 
that has more memory to do the analysis.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to take
huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser memory
even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its not
so.

Thank you
kavya

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:
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> On 7/13/12 11:50 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
>>
>> Dear users,
>>
>> Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
>> the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
>> protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it.
>> But
>> unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
>> using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem
>> exists.
>> Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.
>>
>
> How long is the trajectory?  How many frames?  What is the size of the file
> on disk?  It sounds to me like you're simply exhausting available memory, so
> the only advice is in the link I posted before - use fewer frames or use a
> machine that has more memory to do the analysis.
>
>
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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 12:05 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to take
huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser memory
even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its not
so.



I can't see a reason why the file itself would present a problem.  I have run 
g_saltbr on similarly sized systems.  Sorry, I can't offer an explanation as to 
why it's stopping prematurely.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Ok... I will try other options.

Thanks
Kavya

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 7/13/12 12:05 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:
>>
>> Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
>> that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to
>> take
>> huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser
>> memory
>> even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its
>> not
>> so.
>>
>
> I can't see a reason why the file itself would present a problem.  I have
> run g_saltbr on similarly sized systems.  Sorry, I can't offer an
> explanation as to why it's stopping prematurely.
>
>
> -Justin
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[gmx-users] Re: Melting simulations - regd

2012-07-13 Thread rapolu sukumar
Dear Justin,

   Thank you for your reply,  here I have one more doubt, I am
using 'pcoupltype= anisotropic' in my simulationa as the polymers are
aniostropic, I have searched for compressibility values of system but i
couldn't find is there any generalized way to set up compressibility values.


Thank you,

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