[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 17

2012-09-07 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dears Justin and Christopher

Thanks a lot,

I'll do the same.

Sincerely
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[gmx-users] a box of water

2012-09-07 Thread Turgay Cakmak
Hi all,

I want to do Molecular dynamics simulation of a box of water (SPC
type). I get the spc216.pdb file from the gromacs/share/tutor.
Firstly, I did geometry optimization for nsteps= 5.
Now, can I continue with production run or do I need to do
equilibration runs to arrive correct temperature and pressure?

Thank you in advance,
Turgay
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Re: [gmx-users] a box of water

2012-09-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/7/12 7:34 AM, Turgay Cakmak wrote:

Hi all,

I want to do Molecular dynamics simulation of a box of water (SPC
type). I get the spc216.pdb file from the gromacs/share/tutor.
Firstly, I did geometry optimization for nsteps= 5.
Now, can I continue with production run or do I need to do
equilibration runs to arrive correct temperature and pressure?



Equilibration is always advisable, though for a system of water you don't do any 
sort of position-restrained steps as you would if there were a solute.  In any 
case, if you do not run explicit NVT and/or NPT phases, you'll have to throw out 
some of the beginning of the production trajectory anyway, since generation of 
velocities does not guarantee that you maintain any sort of equilibrated state, 
so the beginning of the run is equilibration.  For stability reasons, NVT and 
NPT are advisable.  Water is pretty robust, but why take a chance when 
equilibration steps are fast to do?


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] a box of water

2012-09-07 Thread Turgay Cakmak
Thanks a lot for your quick reply Justin. I got it.
Turgay

2012/9/7 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:


 On 9/7/12 7:34 AM, Turgay Cakmak wrote:

 Hi all,

 I want to do Molecular dynamics simulation of a box of water (SPC
 type). I get the spc216.pdb file from the gromacs/share/tutor.
 Firstly, I did geometry optimization for nsteps= 5.
 Now, can I continue with production run or do I need to do
 equilibration runs to arrive correct temperature and pressure?


 Equilibration is always advisable, though for a system of water you don't do
 any sort of position-restrained steps as you would if there were a solute.
 In any case, if you do not run explicit NVT and/or NPT phases, you'll have
 to throw out some of the beginning of the production trajectory anyway,
 since generation of velocities does not guarantee that you maintain any sort
 of equilibrated state, so the beginning of the run is equilibration.  For
 stability reasons, NVT and NPT are advisable.  Water is pretty robust, but
 why take a chance when equilibration steps are fast to do?

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] .gro file format details

2012-09-07 Thread Julio Dominguez
Good day,
I was looking for the documentation for the .gro format but I couldn't find it 
on the site or manual. I am missing something?I am trying to parametrize some 
lipid ligands using ATB (http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb) and I have been 
creating the .gro files by trial and error. I would like to automate this 
process so having a look at the description of the format would be a great help.
Thank you.
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Re: [gmx-users] .gro file format details

2012-09-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/7/12 11:42 AM, Julio Dominguez wrote:

Good day,
I was looking for the documentation for the .gro format but I couldn't find it 
on the site or manual. I am missing something?I am trying to parametrize some 
lipid ligands using ATB (http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb) and I have been 
creating the .gro files by trial and error. I would like to automate this 
process so having a look at the description of the format would be a great help.


The online manual describes all file formats (http://manual.gromacs.org) but 
unfortunately all Gromacs sites appear to be down at the moment.  In any case, 
you can access the same information from the HTML files in your Gromacs 
installation, in the share/gromacs/html/online subdirectory.  Open up gro.html 
in a web browser.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] from GMX to NAMD/Amber

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear All,

I want to use ACEMD software on GPUs which I have an access to. It
could take while before I would prepare system of interest in NAMD or
Amber Tool as I always used Gromacs.
Do you know whether there is an easy way to translate gro/pdb files
(equilibrated) and topology prepared in Gromacs to psf files or
anything and run under ACEMD?

Thank you,

Steven
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[gmx-users] Energies in simulation and rerun using different core counts

2012-09-07 Thread Richard Broadbent

Dear All,

I've been having some issues with energies with gromacs running on 
various core counts for a 7469 polymer in solvent system, constraining 
all bonds and running with a 2fs time step. I used PME-shift (1.05nm, 
1.10nm), and a shift with the same parameters for the VdW, I am using 
the OPLS-AA force field with fourierspacing  = 0.10. and the md-vv 
integrator.


I am running gromacs 4.5.5 compiled from the tarball on gromacs.org

To try and track it down I ran a 100ps  NVE simulation outputting 
coordinates and velocities every 1ps. I then used the trr trajectory 
file and ran:


$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 8_cores -reprod 
-nt 8
$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 4_cores -reprod 
-nt 4
$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 1_cores -reprod 
-nt 1


then:

$  g_energy_d -f 8_cores.edr -o 8_cores.xvg  EOF
10
11
12
13
14
15
EOF

etc.
Where nve_short.tpr is the input file used for the original simulation 
and reference.trr is the trajectory it produced (I did not output forces 
into this which was an oversight).


These were run on my machine a quad core hyper-threaded intel xeon. I 
also used performed the rerun on our local cluster on 12, 24, and 36 
cores (dual 6 core intel xeon nodes with infiniband interconnects)


The resulting energy files are significantly different energies for these
snapshots summarised in this table:

number of cores,  Potential Energy,Standard Deviation

reference 7912.74479607 180.525445863
1_cores9635.92644669 180.525445891
4_cores1061.8467459 244.14154375
8_cores  776.470114871 208.368028756
12_cores374.243502525 204.012539953
24_cores667.44876102 502.041766722
36_cores616.93105205 476.190500738

(reference is the energy extracted from the original simulation run on a 
12 core node)


The large variation in standard deviation means that these energies are 
not simply shifted but behaving differently which is apparent from a 
plot of the potential energies.


has anyone else noticed any sort of inconsistency? Does anyone have any 
advice about what might cause this? Am I doing anything stupid?


Thanks,

Richard




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Re: [gmx-users] MD problem with nwall=2

2012-09-07 Thread Peter C. Lai
On 2012-09-06 02:46:21PM +0200, Bogdan Costescu wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:
  Could be a result of not setting x/y compressibility = 0 as the manual
  suggests you should do...
 
 As one who has also tried to use walls recently, I've also found this
 statement in the manual, but no further explanation. Anyone cares to
 expand on it ?
 
 For testing, I've recently performed a run with compressibility=0 for
 z and non-zero for x/y (so, exactly opposite to what the manual
 suggests :)). The box deformed as expected in x/y and the pressure
 seemed to be maintained correctly. Is there some reason for which this
 would be a random (i.e. not easily reproducible) result ? Or are there
 some less obvious problems with it ?

I am trying to use walls with lipid bilayers. I once also applied a non-zero
compressibility to x/y , and my bilayer physically collapsed in less than 1ns,
although the simulation appeared to be otherwise nominal.

Another thing I noticed was that the value of wall_density is important, 
since a small leakage past the wall may not be noticeable until you exceed 
1-10ns and that will quickly drop volume to 0 and make it look like x/y has 
collapsed (and cause a system crash due to exceeding pme/dd tolerances).

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[gmx-users] Re: .gro file format details

2012-09-07 Thread Julio Dominguez
Thank you, Justin. I havenĀ“t thought of that.
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