[gmx-users] tau_t and tc_grps for v-rescale (2)

2012-09-28 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD

Hi again,

I posted yesterday the query below, but have not received any feedback 
up to now. I would like to put my question in another way: in Justin's 
CAP-15 in DPPC tutorial he uses during NVT equilibration Bussi's 
thermostat (V-rescale) together with three separate coupling groups:


; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein DPPC SOL_CL   ; three coupling groups - more 
accurate

tau_t   = 0.1   0.1 0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 323   323 323 ; reference temperature, 
one for each group, in K),


Is this separate coupling needed at all taking into account that this 
temperature coupling method produces the correct coupling? Is it 
probably better to use a single coupling constant (system) and so avoid 
problems using this artificial correction to deal with the hot solvent 
/ cold solute artifact?


Could somebody kindly tell me how large could the coupling constant, 
tau_t, be? Is it OK to switch, e.g., from 0.1 to 0.3 ps after T 
equilibration is reached, i.e., during the production phase?


Many thanks again in advance and kind regards,

Felipe


On 09/27/2012 03:49 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD wrote:

Hi,

I'd greatly appreciate any general advice on the possibility to use 
several (2 or more) tc_grps with v-rescale and how large could be 
tau_t with this coupling method (is 0.3 ps still OK?).


Many thanks in advance and best regards,

Felipe


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[gmx-users] doubt in minimization part

2012-09-28 Thread Shine A
Sir,

   I am studying the dynamics of membrane proteins using KALP-15 in DPPC.
Now I am confusing with the following ( shown at botom) part of the
tutorial.Here minimization means to minimize system_inflated.gro, is it
right? Then without .epr and .top files of system_inflated.gro how can I do
this?


perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 DPPC 14 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat

Note how many lipids were deleted and update the [ molecules ] directive of
your topology accordingly. Run energy minimization. Then, scale down the
lipids by a factor of 0.95 (assuming you have used default names, the
result of the minimization is called confout.gro):

perl inflategro.pl confout.gro 0.95 DPPC 0 system_shrink1.gro 5 area_shrink1.dat
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[gmx-users] Exclusions in TIP4P

2012-09-28 Thread Ignacio Fernández Galván
Hi all,

In the OPLS-AA tip4p.itp file I see:

  [ moleculetype ]
  ; molname   nrexcl
  SOL 2

and

  [ exclusions ]
  1   2   3   4
  2   1   3   4
  3   1   2   4
  4   1   2   3

If bonded interactions are included (FLEXIBLE defined), interactions between 
atoms 1, 2, 3 are already excluded, right?

And is it needed to have both the n-m and m-n exclusions listed? Wouldn't it be 
the same with this?:

  [ exclusions ]
  1   2   3   4
  2   3   4
  3   4

Thanks,
Ignacio
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Re: [gmx-users] g_tcaf segmentation fault

2012-09-28 Thread Stelios Karozis
I check my .mdp setting and you were right. I haven't been saving the 
velocities in my .trr file. I change my setting and everything worked fine.


Thanks for your help

Stelios

On 09/27/2012 03:37 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Re: [gmx-users] g_tcaf segmentation fault

The .trr file can contain coordinates, velocities, and forces over
time, depending on your .mdp settings (nstxout, nstvout, nstfout). For
g_tcaf, you need to have velocities. It does say so in the manpage.
Run gmxcheck to see what's in your .trr file.

A segmentation fault with the analysis tools is usually an indication
that there is a mismatch in data, e.g. between trajectory and
reference structure, or that some data is missing, like velocities in
a trajectory. Of course the developers could try and catch all those
things, but they rather spend their time thinking of new things :p

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Stelios Karozis
skaro...@ipta.demokritos.gr wrote:
 Sorry, but i was wrong, the .trr file contains trajectories and the .gro
 output file contains velocities as it should.

 Stelios


 On 09/27/2012 03:03 PM, Stelios Karozis wrote:

 Hi Tsjerk,
 I checked my .trr file and it contains the velocities, as it should.

 Stelios
 On 09/27/2012 09:12 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

 Hi Stelios,

 Does your .trr file contain velocities?

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Sep 26, 2012 8:24 PM, Stelios Karozis 
skaro...@ipta.demokritos.gr

 wrote:

 Thanks for the response. First i tried the .trr from the 
simulation and

 the
 result was segmentation fault.
 I use g_covar for entropy estimation combined with g_anaeig 
command. So

 the
 use of g_covar .trr file as an input, was easy alternative .trr 
file to

 see
 if i will get pass the segmantation fault error. I didn t give it too
 much
 thought.

 Stelios

 Ο χρήστης Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu έγραψε:

 On 9/26/12 12:55 PM, Stelios Karozis wrote:  Thanks for the 
suggestion.

 
 I just tried and the p...

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 don't
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Re: [gmx-users] doubt in minimization part

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 4:25 AM, Shine A wrote:

Sir,

I am studying the dynamics of membrane proteins using KALP-15 in DPPC.
Now I am confusing with the following ( shown at botom) part of the
tutorial.Here minimization means to minimize system_inflated.gro, is it
right? Then without .epr and .top files of system_inflated.gro how can I do
this?



You should have a topology of the system, and .mdp files are provided so you can 
assemble a .tpr file and run minimization.  Individual commands are not provided 
at this point in the tutorial, because (as stated at the beginning of the 
tutorial) it is expected that the user is familiar with a basic Gromacs 
workflow, how to execute grompp and mdrun, etc.


Subsequent minimization steps are performed on system_shrink*.gro files in the 
same manner.


-Justin



perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 DPPC 14 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat

Note how many lipids were deleted and update the [ molecules ] directive of
your topology accordingly. Run energy minimization. Then, scale down the
lipids by a factor of 0.95 (assuming you have used default names, the
result of the minimization is called confout.gro):

perl inflategro.pl confout.gro 0.95 DPPC 0 system_shrink1.gro 5 area_shrink1.dat



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Re: [gmx-users] tau_t and tc_grps for v-rescale (2)

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 3:18 AM, Felipe Pineda, PhD wrote:

Hi again,

I posted yesterday the query below, but have not received any feedback up to
now. I would like to put my question in another way: in Justin's CAP-15 in
DPPC tutorial he uses during NVT equilibration Bussi's thermostat (V-rescale)
together with three separate coupling groups:

; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein DPPC SOL_CL   ; three coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t   = 0.1   0.1 0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 323   323 323 ; reference temperature, one for
each group, in K),

Is this separate coupling needed at all taking into account that this
temperature coupling method produces the correct coupling? Is it probably better
to use a single coupling constant (system) and so avoid problems using this
artificial correction to deal with the hot solvent / cold solute artifact?



Technically the correct way to do it is to use one global thermostat rather than 
individual ones, but multiple thermostats are used for the reason described.  I 
think it is actually more to do with electrostatics approximations than the 
thermostat itself (i.e. plain cutoffs leading to poor energy conservation and 
thus heating of the solvent, which diffuses rapidly) than anything else, so 
using PME is more robust.  Someone please correct me if I'm remembering wrong. 
I don't recall having seen a test of an inhomogeneous system with a single 
thermostat, so multiple thermostats remain common practice.  There are numerous, 
extensive discussions in the list archive about these topics so I would 
encourage you to search around a bit.



Could somebody kindly tell me how large could the coupling constant, tau_t, be?
Is it OK to switch, e.g., from 0.1 to 0.3 ps after T equilibration is reached,
i.e., during the production phase?



This issue is discussed in the reference for the V-rescale thermostat (Bussi et 
al).

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/27/12 7:07 PM, pauladelgado wrote:

*file alfadrest.itp*
[ distance_restraints ]
;   i j  ? label  funct loup1up2 weight
  8002  10641 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8040  10616 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8067  10582 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8104  10554 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8283  10698 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8259  10723 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8222  10764 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
  8189  10794 1 0  10.40.50.6  1
*file topol.top*

; Include Distance restraint file
#ifdef DISRES
#include alfadrest.itp
#endif

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include gromos43a1.ff/spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include gromos43a1.ff/ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Protein

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_chain_A 1


All of this appears normal.  What about the question I posed before regarding an 
energy contribution from the restraints?  Do you see it in the .log or .edr 
files?  What is its magnitude?



*file .mdp*
; LINES STARTING WITH ';' ARE COMMENTS
title   = Minimization  ; Title of run
define  = -DDISRES
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent 
minimization)
emtol   = 10.0  ; Stop minimization when the maximum force  
1.0 kJ/mol
emstep  = 0.01  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 50; Maximum number of (minimization) 
steps to perform
energygrps  = Protein   ; Which energy group(s) to write to disk

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to
calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and 
long range
forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, 
grid)
rlist   = 1.0   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range 
forces)
coulombtype = PME   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic 
interactions
rcoulomb= 1.0   ; long range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.0   ; long range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)

;Parametros distance restraint
disre   = simple; simple (per-molecule) distance restraints
disre_fc= 1000  ; Force constant for distance restraints

*Questions*
1.When I am doing the minimization it comes out this message:

/Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 349 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.
/
What this implies, can i continue besides this message?Or it is better to do
something about it?



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Stepsize_too_small.2c_or_no_change_in_energy._Converged_to_machine_precision.2c_but_not_to_the_requested_precision


2.Can you recomend considerable literature on vacuum simulation?



A simple Google search turns up lots.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] something wrong with BlueGene/P

2012-09-28 Thread Matthew Zwier
Hi Kai,

A system that is marginally stable frequently succeeds in propagating
on one machine and fails on another.  I've observed this even between
Xeon and Opteron systems, which is fairly minor architectural
difference. Since your system works in NVT but not NPT, this would
seem to imply that the high pressure conditions are at fault. You may
not be able to get away with a 2 fs timestep here. Try 1 fs or even
0.5 fs and see what happens.

Cheers,
MZ

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Bao Kai paeanb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, all,

 I did many simulations with Gromacs on CO2 Water mixtures on my
 workstation with 8 cores in parallel, the results are pretty good.

 For bigger simulations, I turned to the BlueGene machine. The problem
 is that with exactly the same configuration files and same number of
 MPI tasks( 8 here) , I always got the following problems.

1773
1774 step 6870: Water molecule starting at atom 1375 can not be settled.
1775 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
1776 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
1777
1778 Step 6871, time 6.871 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
1779 relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
1780 rms 0.139809, max 0.559153 (between atoms 10 and 11)
1781 bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
1782  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
1783  10 11   78.50.1210   0.1813  0.1163
1784  10 12   90.00.1523   0.1152  0.1163
1785
1786 step 6871: Water molecule starting at atom 4576 can not be settled.
1787 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
1788
1789 step 6871: Water molecule starting at atom 5794 can not be settled.
1790 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
1791 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
1792 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
1793
1794 ---
1795 Program mdrun_bgp_d, VERSION 4.5.5
1796 Source code file: pme.c, line: 538
1797
1798 Fatal error:
1799 3 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times
 the cut-off out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group
 in dimension y.
1800 This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
1801 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
 check the GROMACS
1802 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors

 When I do the energy minimization or the NVT equilibration, Gromacs
 worked pretty well.

 The problem happened when I turned to the NPT equilibration. The
 pressure and temperature were set to be 100bar and 318K respectively.
 When during the NPT equlibration, the temperature and pressure keep
 increasing before the program halt.

1161
1162 DD  step 6499 load imb.: force  6.9%
1163
1164Step   Time Lambda
116565006.50.0
1166
1167Energies (kJ/mol)
1168   AngleLJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)
 Coul. recip.
1169 4.50025e+012.21540e+04   -7.02187e+02   -1.23033e+05
 -1.27743e+04
1170   PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
 Pres. DC (bar)
1171-1.14310e+051.50736e+04   -9.92368e+043.74677e+02
 -3.36430e+02
1172  Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
1173 1.53825e+031.53151e-06
1174
1175 DD  step 6599 load imb.: force  5.1%
1176
1177Step   Time Lambda
117866006.60.0
1179
1180Energies (kJ/mol)
1181   AngleLJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)
 Coul. recip.
1182 5.41207e+012.32123e+04   -7.01221e+02   -1.23852e+05
 -1.27349e+04
1183   PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
 Pres. DC (bar)
1184-1.14022e+051.50532e+04   -9.89688e+043.82147e+02
 -3.35505e+02
1185  Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
1186 2.37940e+031.40409e-06
1187
1188 DD  step 6699 load imb.: force  4.8%
1189
1190Step   Time Lambda
119167006.70.0
1192
1193Energies (kJ/mol)
1194   AngleLJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)
 Coul. recip.
1195 4.70219e+012.37867e+04   -6.99910e+02   -1.24021e+05
 -1.26862e+04
1196   PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
 Pres. DC (bar)
1197-1.13574e+051.54884e+04   -9.80852e+044.03537e+02
 -3.34252e+02
1198  Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
1199 3.01172e+031.56366e-06
1200
1201 DD  step 6799 load imb.: force  6.7%
1202
1203Step   Time Lambda
120468006.80.0
1205
1206Energies (kJ/mol)
1207   

[gmx-users] g_hbond

2012-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi

I have an alcohol system and I want to calculate the number of H bonds
during the trajectory.
My atom type labels are C2-C2-C2-CO-OH-HO.  CO denotes carbon bonded to
oxygen, OH denotes alcohol oxygen, and HO denotes alcohol hydrogen.
In g_hbond how do I specify my groups to consider for H bonding. If I
uses group 0 which is the whole system it says that I have twice as many
acceptors as donors, which shouldn't be the case.

Cheers

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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 8:53 AM, Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi

I have an alcohol system and I want to calculate the number of H bonds
during the trajectory.
My atom type labels are C2-C2-C2-CO-OH-HO.  CO denotes carbon bonded to
oxygen, OH denotes alcohol oxygen, and HO denotes alcohol hydrogen.
In g_hbond how do I specify my groups to consider for H bonding. If I
uses group 0 which is the whole system it says that I have twice as many
acceptors as donors, which shouldn't be the case.



g_hbond uses atom names (not types) to determine what is considered a donor, 
acceptor, or H atom.  If there is a problem with the number of acceptors or 
donors, then there is a problem with the way the atoms are named.  Without 
seeing the [atoms] section of the topology or relevant snippet of the coordinate 
file, it's hard to say what's going on at this point.


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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella sampling-protein-ligand complex

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 9:27 AM, Archana Sonawani wrote:

Hi,

I have performed simulations for 3 different ligands complexed with the
same protein. I want to compare the binding energies of these different
three complexes. Will umbrella sampling be useful in this case?



Several methods could be used, and umbrella sampling is certainly one of them.

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Re: [gmx-users] provide opt way to perform simulation for protein and peptide -reg

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 10:07 AM, venkatesh s wrote:

Respected gromacs Users,
  i want perform stimulation for
protein + peptide (in water medium only not membrane protein)
1. Can i use the Docked conformation (better conformation both protein +
peptide make it as one file .pdb ) for perform simulation


Yes.


2. Other than that manually edit the coordinate file  after TER or END
insert peptide amino acid (my peptide having a 5 amino acid )


I don't understand what you want to do here.  pdb2gmx can deal with multiple 
proteins in a single coordinate file, with topologies written for each depending 
on what you choose for the -chainsep option.  Different chain identifiers or TER 
delimiters can be used to indicate that a new molecule has started.


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[gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread pauladelgado
The distance restraint energy is arrond 13700 KJ/mol, is that ok?, but whta
happend with mi resulting pdb, i can't appreciate the distance restraint s i
made.

With respect to vacuum simulation, i am doing energy minimization and md
with no periodic boundaries, with coulombtype=Cutt-off and the cut-offs turn
off (equal to 0), and the md with no pressure and temperature cuopling, is
that ok? Also i am not going to do NVT and NPT because for what i understand
this is to equilibrate solvent and ions and make sure that this surround the
protein.



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 12:18 PM, pauladelgado wrote:

The distance restraint energy is arrond 13700 KJ/mol, is that ok?, but whta
happend with mi resulting pdb, i can't appreciate the distance restraint s i
made.



No, that's not OK.  The very large value of energy suggests that the desired 
distances are not being achieved (which you can measure with g_dist).  How close 
are the initial distances to the restraints you have set in the topology?



With respect to vacuum simulation, i am doing energy minimization and md
with no periodic boundaries, with coulombtype=Cutt-off and the cut-offs turn
off (equal to 0), and the md with no pressure and temperature cuopling, is
that ok? Also i am not going to do NVT and NPT because for what i understand
this is to equilibrate solvent and ions and make sure that this surround the
protein.



The purpose of any ensemble is to obtain a conformational ensemble under those 
conditions.  What it sounds like you're trying to do is run an NVE simulation, 
which can be very difficult to obtain.  See the notes on the wiki for 
methodological issues.


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[gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread pauladelgado
Other thing is that i couldn't found a lot of literature about the conditions
for vacuum simulations, can you help me with this please, 
Thanks a lot Justin

Paula
Here is the graph of energy of distance restraint
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 12:25 PM, pauladelgado wrote:

Other thing is that i couldn't found a lot of literature about the conditions
for vacuum simulations, can you help me with this please,
Thanks a lot Justin



Searching Google Scholar for protein vacuum simulations (without quotes) turns 
up 38000 results.  Surely something in there will be of use.  Scientific 
database software will probably return even more pertinent results.



Paula
Here is the graph of energy of distance restraint
http://gromacs.5086.n6.nabble.com/file/n5001409/Screenshot-1.png



This doesn't answer the question I posed before.  Please measure distances 
between the restrained atoms and compare with the restraints you're trying to 
impose.  The initial geometry may not be amenable to such restraints.  The 
magnitude of the energy suggests that your restraints are severely violated.


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[gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread pauladelgado
Yes i found this document Computer simulations: Orientation of Lysozyme in
vacuum under the influence of an electric field where i found about the
conditions i mentioned before for vacuum simulations. So what should i do?



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 12:53 PM, pauladelgado wrote:

Yes i found this document Computer simulations: Orientation of Lysozyme in
vacuum under the influence of an electric field where i found about the
conditions i mentioned before for vacuum simulations. So what should i do?



You've been asking about implementation of distance restraints.  I don't know 
why you're using them and you won't answer the questions I'm asking.  I'm afraid 
I am not prepared to try to guess at the solution to your problems or design 
your research when I know nothing about what you're trying to do.


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Re: [gmx-users] something wrong with BlueGene/P

2012-09-28 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Kai,

I would suggest running (Berendsen) NpT equilibration with a large tau_p,
followed by a few cycles in which you lower tau_p.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk

On Sep 28, 2012 2:53 PM, Matthew Zwier mczw...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Kai,

A system that is marginally stable frequently succeeds in propagating
on one machine and fails on another.  I've observed this even between
Xeon and Opteron systems, which is fairly minor architectural
difference. Since your system works in NVT but not NPT, this would
seem to imply that the high pressure conditions are at fault. You may
not be able to get away with a 2 fs timestep here. Try 1 fs or even
0.5 fs and see what happens.

Cheers,
MZ

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Re: [gmx-users] Re:provide opt way to perform simulation for protein and peptide -reg

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 1:03 PM, venkatesh s wrote:

Respected gromacs Users,
I want perform protein (only one chain)
+ peptide (five amino acid) simulation to understand interaction between
both (can say what role are playing peptide with protein  )
so i did   like this pdb2gmx -f prot.pdb -o pro.gro -water tip3p -ignh
-chainsep ter
but in my .top file

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_chain_A 1

Question

1. its shows only one chain actually want show 2 chains, but  why it shows
1 chain ?



The result implies that the two chains are not properly separated by a TER line.


and may i want know above mentioned way of  doing protein+ peptide
molecular dynamics is correct?



What you're doing is generating a topology; you're not running MD yet.  The 
command line is syntactically correct, but there is something wrong with the 
input .pdb file, otherwise you would have two chains written to the topology.



2. other than that what else method or way is there perform protein peptide
MDS  kindly let me know?



This question doesn't make sense to me.  Running MD on a complex is certainly a 
viable way to study the interactions, but you're not even close to doing that 
yet since your topology is not yet correct.


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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella sampling-protein-ligand complex

2012-09-28 Thread Archana Sonawani
Dear Justin,

So do I have to carry out umbrella sampling simulations separately for the
three complexes or put the three ligands together with the protein and pull
the ligands one by one to calculate the binding energy. I am confused.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Archana

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 On 9/28/12 9:27 AM, Archana Sonawani wrote:

 Hi,

 I have performed simulations for 3 different ligands complexed with the
 same protein. I want to compare the binding energies of these different
 three complexes. Will umbrella sampling be useful in this case?


 Several methods could be used, and umbrella sampling is certainly one of
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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella sampling-protein-ligand complex

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 2:19 PM, Archana Sonawani wrote:

Dear Justin,

So do I have to carry out umbrella sampling simulations separately for the
three complexes or put the three ligands together with the protein and pull
the ligands one by one to calculate the binding energy. I am confused.



Each complex has to be treated separately.  Simultaneously pulling three 
molecules won't make any physical sense and the simulations would crash anyway.


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[gmx-users] mails of other users in this mailing list

2012-09-28 Thread Lara Bunte
Hello

Is there a way to get all mails from the GROMACS mailing list for a special 
email adress? 

To be more precisely I want to have all messages that are asked and answered 
for a special user. This is motivated out of the fact that I saw that I am not 
alone with my system. There are other people how wants to make md with very 
similar molecules and I want to read their questions and answers they got. 

Thanks for help
Greetings
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Re: [gmx-users] mails of other users in this mailing list

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 3:07 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hello

Is there a way to get all mails from the GROMACS mailing list for a special 
email adress?

To be more precisely I want to have all messages that are asked and answered 
for a special user. This is motivated out of the fact that I saw that I am not 
alone with my system. There are other people how wants to make md with very 
similar molecules and I want to read their questions and answers they got.



http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/GMX-Users_List currently displays a 
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a thread that this person has posted to, you should be able to click his/her 
name and see their posts, i.e. for me:


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[gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread pauladelgado
http://gromacs.5086.n6.nabble.com/file/n5001418/Screenshot-2.png 
This is the distance of one pair of atoms that i restraint. 
I apologize if i did't mention why i am using distance restraint, i am
working with a protein obtained using homology modelling, the next step
after i get the protein structure is doing molecular docking, the problem is
that i need to refine the structure and i found in literature that the
protein goes through a conformational change where it forms a bundle of 4
alfa helix (hydrofobic interactions) before it interacts with its ligand, so
besides of making the refinment of the structure i need  to obtain that
bundle in order to do molecular docking. The reason for doing the refinement
in vacuo is that when you minimize a struture to avoid steric clashes i
always make them in vacuo with other software, the problem is that i need to
form the bundle and the software i usually used doesn't handle position
restraint.  My intention never was to bother you,   I am very thankful for
your time to answer my questions.
Sorry for all the inconvenience

Paula



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance restraint

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 3:34 PM, pauladelgado wrote:

http://gromacs.5086.n6.nabble.com/file/n5001418/Screenshot-2.png
This is the distance of one pair of atoms that i restraint.
I apologize if i did't mention why i am using distance restraint, i am
working with a protein obtained using homology modelling, the next step
after i get the protein structure is doing molecular docking, the problem is
that i need to refine the structure and i found in literature that the
protein goes through a conformational change where it forms a bundle of 4
alfa helix (hydrofobic interactions) before it interacts with its ligand, so
besides of making the refinment of the structure i need  to obtain that
bundle in order to do molecular docking. The reason for doing the refinement
in vacuo is that when you minimize a struture to avoid steric clashes i
always make them in vacuo with other software, the problem is that i need to
form the bundle and the software i usually used doesn't handle position
restraint.  My intention never was to bother you,   I am very thankful for
your time to answer my questions.


The distance shown is constant at roughly 8 nm.  Your topology specifies that 
the desired restraints (though there are multiple, so are we to assume that all 
of the distances are similar?) are in the ballpark of 0.5 nm.  The use of 
distance restraints is not to severely modify a structure.  Instead of doing 
this, the algorithm will fail, as you are seeing, resulting in very large 
energies.  I don't know if this is a viable route for the refinement you seek - 
if very large structural changes are expected, then extensive MD simulation will 
be required.  Conformational changes can occur spontaneously or can be induced 
with steered MD (pull code), though care needs to be taken with the latter 
approach, as undesired structural changes can certainly occur if done incorrectly.


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[gmx-users] Notes and warnings using grompp

2012-09-28 Thread Sonia Milena Aguilera Segura
Hi,

I´m getting the following notes when using grompp to generate the tpr file. My 
system is a protein in water. I already checked the topology file and the sum 
of my charges are -13. Should I ignore it? Why is it assuming that value?

NOTE 1 [file OmpC.top, line 23461]:
  System has non-zero total charge: -13.02
  Total charge should normally be an integer.

The second note is the following.

Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.250, 0.244 nm
Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.084, 0.084 nm

NOTE 2 [file min0.0.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.494582) is larger than
  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (0.90)

Thank you in advance,

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Re: [gmx-users] Notes and warnings using grompp

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 4:10 PM, Sonia Milena Aguilera Segura wrote:

Hi,

I´m getting the following notes when using grompp to generate the tpr file. My 
system is a protein in water. I already checked the topology file and the sum 
of my charges are -13. Should I ignore it? Why is it assuming that value?

NOTE 1 [file OmpC.top, line 23461]:
   System has non-zero total charge: -13.02
   Total charge should normally be an integer.



You need to add counterions.  Please consult basic tutorial material.


The second note is the following.

Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.250, 0.244 nm
Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.084, 0.084 nm

NOTE 2 [file min0.0.mdp]:
   The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.494582) is larger than
   rlist (1.00) - rvdw (0.90)



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#The_sum_of_the_two_largest_charge_group_radii_(X)_is_larger_than.c2.a0rlist_-_rvdw.2frcoulomb

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[gmx-users] Notes and warnings using grompp

2012-09-28 Thread Sonia Milena Aguilera Segura
Hi,

I´m getting the following notes when using grompp to generate the tpr file. My 
system is a protein in water. I already checked the topology file and the sum 
of my charges are -13. Should I ignore it? Why is it assuming that value?

NOTE 1 [file OmpC.top, line 23461]:
  System has non-zero total charge: -13.02
  Total charge should normally be an integer.

The second note is the following.

Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.250, 0.244 nm
Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.084, 0.084 nm

NOTE 2 [file min0.0.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.494582) is larger than
  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (0.90)

Thank you in advance,

Sonia Aguilera
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[gmx-users] Re: Notes and warnings using grompp

2012-09-28 Thread Sonia Aguilera
Hi, 

I understand that usually it is needed to add counterions . I´m performing a
free energy calculation and I want to see the free energy change without
adding the ions. What I´m asking is why the program reads a total charge of
-13.02 not 13.0. The note says that it must be an integer, but I don´t
know what to change or where. Should I ignore the note?

I have seen (second note) that since it is just a note, it can be ignored,
but according with the parameters of the note, what do you think?

Thank you, 

Sonia Aguilera



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Notes and warnings using grompp

2012-09-28 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/28/12 5:13 PM, Sonia Aguilera wrote:

Hi,

I understand that usually it is needed to add counterions . I´m performing a
free energy calculation and I want to see the free energy change without
adding the ions. What I´m asking is why the program reads a total charge of
-13.02 not 13.0. The note says that it must be an integer, but I don´t
know what to change or where. Should I ignore the note?



grompp reads a net charge of -13 because that's the charge (almost certainly) on 
the protein, per the parameters in the topology.  -13.02 is close enough to 
an integer that the minor difference is due to rounding, as the link I provided 
before states.  Whether or not you ignore it depends on whether or not you think 
whatever you are modeling is reasonable.



I have seen (second note) that since it is just a note, it can be ignored,
but according with the parameters of the note, what do you think?



Notes are there to warn you that something is potentially wrong.  It looks like 
either your .mdp settings are inappropriate or you have a large charge group. 
This situation can lead to artifacts from incorrect neighbor searching or 
nonbonded calculations.


-Justin

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