Re: [gmx-users] Holes in the solvent!

2012-10-29 Thread Arman Mahboubi Soufiani
Dear Chris,

Thank you for your directions. NaCl concentration in my system is 0.14 M
and I often visualize the whole system and can see the ions around the
system but not in crystal form!
Well, it sounds really strange to me! And I don't know if I proceed with
such a system, I get scientific results or not?!
I appreciate your further helps.

Best Regards

Arman

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Christopher Neale <
chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> In addition to the comments of Dallas Warren, which seems quite possible
> and should be checked,
> are you sure that you are seeing real holes and not just salt crystals
> that look like holes when you render only
> the waters with VMD? I have found that, at NaCL concentrations above 1 M,
> lipid bilayers catalyze the formation
> of salt crystals when using TIP3P/4P water and the OPLS/AA-L force field
> for ions. These crystals looked a lot
> like vacuum holes to me until I visualized the salt.
>
> Chris.
>
> -- original message --
>
> I am simulating a protein on a polymer surface for further adsorption free
> energy calculation.
> However, after performing the NVT run either for short or long durations I
> found out that couple of holes appear in the physiological saline solution
> (solvent)!!!
> Additionally, even proceeding with a long NPT run the holes are still
> present in the system.
> I would be thankful if you could direct me what could be source of such a
> strange outcome.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Arman
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[gmx-users] hessian conversion

2012-10-29 Thread Yao Yao
Hi Gmxers,

has anyone ever converted the GROMACS hessian (in ps^(-2)) to CHARMM hessian 
(in KCal/mol),
even considering the individual unit, GROMACS hessian numbers are far bigger 
than those in CHARMM? 


thanks,

Yao
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[gmx-users] Holes in the solvent!

2012-10-29 Thread Christopher Neale
In addition to the comments of Dallas Warren, which seems quite possible and 
should be checked, 
are you sure that you are seeing real holes and not just salt crystals that 
look like holes when you render only
the waters with VMD? I have found that, at NaCL concentrations above 1 M, lipid 
bilayers catalyze the formation
of salt crystals when using TIP3P/4P water and the OPLS/AA-L force field for 
ions. These crystals looked a lot
like vacuum holes to me until I visualized the salt.

Chris.

-- original message --

I am simulating a protein on a polymer surface for further adsorption free
energy calculation. 
However, after performing the NVT run either for short or long durations I
found out that couple of holes appear in the physiological saline solution
(solvent)!!!
Additionally, even proceeding with a long NPT run the holes are still
present in the system.
I would be thankful if you could direct me what could be source of such a
strange outcome.  

Best Wishes

Arman

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[gmx-users] time-block analysis

2012-10-29 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Leila:

I presume that "time-block analysis" is the same as block averaging, but it is 
impossible to be sure without more 
context. I suggest that you find the person who suggested that you do 
"time-block analysis" and ask them.

Very generally, you will need to do your own scripting to do block averaging. 
Look at Allen and Tildesley for
a good description of block averaging or look at the original (as far as I 
know) reference:
Flyvbjerg, H.; Petersen, H. G., Error estimates on averages of correlated data. 
J. Chem. Phys. 1989, 91 (1), 461-466

Basically, you will need to take your raw data and make block averages. Here is 
a very simple script to
do that for a 2-column data file that has time in the first column and some 
other data in the second column

MIN=0
MAX=1000
BLOCK=100
for ((min=MIN; min+=BLOCK; min='${min}'&&$1<'${max}'){s+=$2;n++}}END{print 
('${max}'-'${min}')/2,s/n}'
done > my.block.averaged.data

I am sure that there are more elegant awk scripts that can do this, but the 
intention here was to show how it is 
done most clearly.

Chris.

-- original message --


Can I do time-block analysis by gromacs? If so, which command?

Is time-block analysis the same as block averaging?


Any help will highly appreciated.
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[gmx-users] g_density

2012-10-29 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Ali:

I assure you that all relevant information has been provided. As I said, it's 
not simple. If it is beyond your 
abilities then perhaps you should find a local collaborator. These days, many 
computational consortia have 
computational specialists who can help you with your scripting and coding. I'm 
not going to do it for you and
I think that we have reached the end of our useful discussion on this topic.

Chris.

-- original message --


Dear Chris

I saw two your email :

static void center_x(int ecenter,rvec x[],matrix box,int n,int nc,atom_id ci[])

{
int i,m,ai;
rvec cmin,cmax,box_center,dx;

if (nc > 0) {
copy_rvec(x[ci[0]],cmin);
copy_rvec(x[ci[0]],cmax);
for(i=0; i cmax[m])
cmax[m]=x[ai][m];
}
}
calc_box_center(ecenter,box,box_center);
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[gmx-users] Error during CNP simulation

2012-10-29 Thread Christopher Neale
Sorry Bharath, I simply can not believe that a macromolecule drifted 3 nm 
during energy minimization.
What happened to the intervening solvent? I think that you have some problem 
with your technique here.

Why did you use 120 constraints? Is this for bonds within the CNP?

You need to do 2 things:

a) figure out what is going wrong with your EM... what you describe seems 
impossible to me.
b) simplify your system to debug the problem. So you get the same warnings 
about too many constraints
if you omit the position restraints?

Chris.

-- original message --

You're right, my resizing from 7.5 nm to 15 nm refers to the dimension
normal to the lipid bilayer (in this case, the x dimension)

My bilayer center of mass is at around +3 nm, and I placed the CNP at
around 10 nm to start with. I had periodic boundary conditions employed in
all three dimensions. I didn't add the CNP using genbox or any other
command- I manually manipulated the .gro coordinate file of the bilayer.
When I ran an energy minimization of just the bilayer and the CNP, the
nanoparticle moved, but very slightly- so far, so good. But, once I added
water and did another energy minimization and checked the structure after
convergence, the nanoparticle had drifted all the way up to around 0 nm,
which meant it was only around 1 nm away from my bilayer before the MD
run. So, yes, it drifted during the energy minimization.

I should probably try what you said. I repeated the entire above process
using a posre.itp file. I had created this posre.itp file using the the
lipids in the bilayer, and the CNP atoms, and I used this file during the
energy minimization after adding water, which is when i got the following
error- "A charge group moved too far between two domain decomposition
steps.".

I also got a warning before the fatal EM, which said that the number of
constraints I had imposed on the CNP (120) is greater than the number of
possible degrees of freedom (48), which could cause the system to be
unstable. I wasn't sure how to fix that, though.

I'm sorry if I'm a bit vague, but I'd appreciate if you could advice me
more on this issue.

Thanks!
Bharath
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Re: [gmx-users] NVT input file

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 2:52 PM, Davoud Zare wrote:



Dear Gromacs users,
Does anyone know how to change the NVT input file for Justin tutorial 
(lysozymein a box of water), so that the temperature is slowly increased from 
50K to 300K?, any general advise or modification of input file is highly 
appreciated.


Read about simulated annealing in the manual and consult the following:

http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#sa

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[gmx-users] NVT input file

2012-10-29 Thread Davoud Zare


Dear Gromacs users,
Does anyone know how to change the NVT input file for Justin tutorial 
(lysozymein a box of water), so that the temperature is slowly increased from 
50K to 300K?, any general advise or modification of input file is highly 
appreciated.
Cheers
Davoud
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[gmx-users] NVT input file

2012-10-29 Thread Davoud Zare
Dear Gromacs users,
Does anyone know how to change the NVT input file for Justin tutorial 
(lysozymein a box of water), so that the temperature is slowly increased from 
50K to 300K? the nvt of the tutorial is attached, any general advise or 
modification of input file is highly appreciated.
Cheers
Davoud 
title   = OPLS Lysozyme NVT equilibration 
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 5 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 100   ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 100   ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstenergy   = 100   ; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog  = 100   ; update log file every 0.2 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation= no; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints 
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) 
constrained
lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 5 ; 10 fs
rlist   = 1.0   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.0   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw= 1.0   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein   ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t   = 0.1   0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 300   300 ; reference temperature, one for each group, in 
K
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl  = no; no pressure coupling in NVT
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes   ; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution
gen_temp= 300   ; temperature for Maxwell distribution
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[gmx-users] Angle between two six membered rings

2012-10-29 Thread bipin singh
Hello all,

I was trying to calculate the normal-normal angle between the two six
membered rings using g_sgangle. I was considering the 3 atoms to
define the plane for each six membered ring but I am not getting the
correct values of normal-normal angle from g_sgangle in this way.
Please suggest me the correct way to calculate it in gromacs .

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Re: [gmx-users] About Keepbyz script for Deleting sol Molecules

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 12:54 PM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear justin Thank you For your Previous reply,
I 
am deleting The Water Molecules using keepbyz script as mailed me

I want to  keep waters around the head groups of my lipid, so
How to Choose wisely  upperz and lowerz values to my system ?



These are the upper and lower bounds of the membrane; generally one would choose 
some representative atom of the headgroup, like phosphorus.  It's not an exact 
science.


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Re: [gmx-users] version 4.5.5 GPU with gtx670 and cuda 4.2

2012-10-29 Thread Jesper Sørensen
I heard rumors of a new GMX version months ago, and was told it was nearly 
ready, but since have not heard anything. So I don't know what the status is.
It is becoming a problem as most of the GPUs supported are discontinued by 
NVIDIA and so you can't buy them anymore. At least in terms of the Geforce 
series of cards, not sure about the Tesla's, but those come with a much 
different price tag.

Best,
Jesper

On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:03 AM, sebastian 
 wrote:

> Hi Jesper,
> 
> thanks for the answer.
> It does not matter which card I choose.
> I was hopping that forcing the device does work but it does not seem to
> be the case.
> Probably I have to wait for an update or the 4.6 version.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> On 10/29/2012 05:50 PM, Jesper Sørensen wrote:
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> 
>> This may just be my take, but the Keppler Cards are not supported yet as far 
>> as I understand it.
>> They are at least not mentioned on the GROMACS GPU page in the Supported 
>> Cards section - granted that page has not been updated in quite a while.
>> 
>> Specifically, does this work when you specify using the first card?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Jesper
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:03 AM, sebastian 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey all together,
>>> 
>>> I try to run the 4.5.5 gpu version with the NVIDIA gtx670 cards.
>>> 
>>> Using:
>>> 
>>> mdrun-gpu -v -s bla.tpr -device
>>> "OpenMM:platform=Cuda,memtest=15,deviceid=1,force-device=yes"
>>> 
>>> (diveceid=1 since I have two cards and want to use the second card).
>>> I get the following error:
>>> 
>>> OpenMM exception caught while initializating: cudaMemcpyToSymbol: SetSim
>>> copy to cSim failed invalid device symbol
>>> 
>>> The installed cuda version is 4.2 and the OpenMM version is 4.1.1
>>> 
>>> Since I have no idea whats going wrong any help is very welcomed
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot
>>> 
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Fwd: Re: [gmx-users] version 4.5.5 GPU with gtx670 and cuda 4.2

2012-10-29 Thread sebastian


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [gmx-users] version 4.5.5 GPU with gtx670 and cuda 4.2
Date:   Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:03:12 +0100
From:   sebastian 
To: Jesper Sørensen 



Hi Jesper,

thanks for the answer.
It does not matter which card I choose.
I was hopping that forcing the device does work but it does not seem to
be the case.
Probably I have to wait for an update or the 4.6 version.

All the best,

Sebastian

On 10/29/2012 05:50 PM, Jesper Sørensen wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> This may just be my take, but the Keppler Cards are not supported yet as far 
> as I understand it.
> They are at least not mentioned on the GROMACS GPU page in the Supported 
> Cards section - granted that page has not been updated in quite a while.
>
> Specifically, does this work when you specify using the first card?
>
> Best,
> Jesper
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:03 AM, sebastian 
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Hey all together,
>>
>> I try to run the 4.5.5 gpu version with the NVIDIA gtx670 cards.
>>
>> Using:
>>
>> mdrun-gpu -v -s bla.tpr -device
>> "OpenMM:platform=Cuda,memtest=15,deviceid=1,force-device=yes"
>>
>> (diveceid=1 since I have two cards and want to use the second card).
>> I get the following error:
>>
>> OpenMM exception caught while initializating: cudaMemcpyToSymbol: SetSim
>> copy to cSim failed invalid device symbol
>>
>> The installed cuda version is 4.2 and the OpenMM version is 4.1.1
>>
>> Since I have no idea whats going wrong any help is very welcomed
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> Sebastian 
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Re: [gmx-users] version 4.5.5 GPU with gtx670 and cuda 4.2

2012-10-29 Thread Jesper Sørensen
Hi Sebastian,

This may just be my take, but the Keppler Cards are not supported yet as far as 
I understand it.
They are at least not mentioned on the GROMACS GPU page in the Supported Cards 
section - granted that page has not been updated in quite a while.

Specifically, does this work when you specify using the first card?

Best,
Jesper

On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:03 AM, sebastian  
wrote:

> Hey all together,
> 
> I try to run the 4.5.5 gpu version with the NVIDIA gtx670 cards.
> 
> Using:
> 
> mdrun-gpu -v -s bla.tpr -device
> "OpenMM:platform=Cuda,memtest=15,deviceid=1,force-device=yes"
> 
> (diveceid=1 since I have two cards and want to use the second card).
> I get the following error:
> 
> OpenMM exception caught while initializating: cudaMemcpyToSymbol: SetSim
> copy to cSim failed invalid device symbol
> 
> The installed cuda version is 4.2 and the OpenMM version is 4.1.1
> 
> Since I have no idea whats going wrong any help is very welcomed
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Sebastian 
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[gmx-users] About Keepbyz script for Deleting sol Molecules

2012-10-29 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear justin Thank you For your Previous reply,
   I am 
deleting The Water Molecules using keepbyz script as mailed me 

I want to  keep waters around the head groups of my lipid, so
How to Choose wisely  upperz and lowerz values to my system ?


Thanks in Advance
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Re: [gmx-users] too much warnings and notes

2012-10-29 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi,

On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Albert  wrote:

> On 10/29/2012 03:56 PM, Carsten Kutzner wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> find the reason for the warnings in your mdp file settings
>> and adjust them accordingly.
>> 
>> You can also override the warnings with the -maxwarn 
>> option in grompp.
>> 
>> Carsten
> Hello Carsten:
> 
> thanks for kind reply.
> 
> the only thing I confused is the last one:
> 
> NOTE 4 [file md.mdp]:
>  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.597592) is larger than
>  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (1.20)
this is explained here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#The_sum_of_the_two_largest_charge_group_radii_(X)_is_larger_than.c2.a0rlist_-_rvdw.2frcoulomb

Carsten

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Re: [gmx-users] too much warnings and notes

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 10:57 AM, Albert wrote:

On 10/29/2012 03:56 PM, Carsten Kutzner wrote:

Hi,

find the reason for the warnings in your mdp file settings
and adjust them accordingly.

You can also override the warnings with the -maxwarn 
option in grompp.

Carsten

Hello Carsten:

thanks for kind reply.

the only thing I confused is the last one:

NOTE 4 [file md.mdp]:
   The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.597592) is larger than
   rlist (1.00) - rvdw (1.20)




It is related to Note 3, which indicates you have a very large charge group. 
You will have artifacts related to neighbor searching (and potentially poor 
energy conservation) if you use such large groups.  There is discussion on this 
note on the Gromacs website and in the list archive.  I post the link to the 
Errors page daily, so surely you can find it :)


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Re: [gmx-users] too much warnings and notes

2012-10-29 Thread Albert

On 10/29/2012 03:56 PM, Carsten Kutzner wrote:

Hi,

find the reason for the warnings in your mdp file settings
and adjust them accordingly.

You can also override the warnings with the -maxwarn 
option in grompp.

Carsten

Hello Carsten:

thanks for kind reply.

the only thing I confused is the last one:

NOTE 4 [file md.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.597592) is larger than
  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (1.20)



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Re: [gmx-users] too much warnings and notes

2012-10-29 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi,

find the reason for the warnings in your mdp file settings
and adjust them accordingly.

You can also override the warnings with the -maxwarn 
option in grompp.

Carsten



On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Albert  wrote:

> hello:
> 
> I am generating a .tpr file for proten/ligand system, but it has so much 
> warnings:
> 
> 
> NOTE 1 [file md.mdp]:
>  nstcomm < nstcalcenergy defeats the purpose of nstcalcenergy, setting
>  nstcomm to nstcalcenergy
> 
> 
> NOTE 2 [file md.mdp]:
>  leapfrog does not yet support Nose-Hoover chains, nhchainlength reset to 1
> 
> Generated 23436 of the 23436 non-bonded parameter combinations
> Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
> Generated 20254 of the 23436 1-4 parameter combinations
> Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'LIG'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'POPC'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Excluding 1 bonded neighbours molecule type 'NA'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Excluding 1 bonded neighbours molecule type 'CL'
> turning all bonds into constraints...
> Setting gen_seed to 6947582
> Velocities were taken from a Maxwell distribution at 300 K
> 
> NOTE 3 [file complex.top]:
>  The largest charge group contains 12 atoms.
>  Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of the charge
>  groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too large charge
>  groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
>  For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a few atoms.
>  For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2, CO, etc.
> 
> Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Protein_LIG is 9475.34
> Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group POPC is 33353.66
> Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Water_and_ions is 53973.00
> Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.299, 0.299 nm
> Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.299, 0.299 nm
> 
> NOTE 4 [file md.mdp]:
>  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.597592) is larger than
>  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (1.20)
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[gmx-users] too much warnings and notes

2012-10-29 Thread Albert

hello:

 I am generating a .tpr file for proten/ligand system, but it has so 
much warnings:



NOTE 1 [file md.mdp]:
  nstcomm < nstcalcenergy defeats the purpose of nstcalcenergy, setting
  nstcomm to nstcalcenergy


NOTE 2 [file md.mdp]:
  leapfrog does not yet support Nose-Hoover chains, nhchainlength reset 
to 1


Generated 23436 of the 23436 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 20254 of the 23436 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'LIG'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'POPC'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Excluding 1 bonded neighbours molecule type 'NA'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Excluding 1 bonded neighbours molecule type 'CL'
turning all bonds into constraints...
Setting gen_seed to 6947582
Velocities were taken from a Maxwell distribution at 300 K

NOTE 3 [file complex.top]:
  The largest charge group contains 12 atoms.
  Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of the 
charge

  groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too large charge
  groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
  For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a few atoms.
  For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2, CO, etc.

Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Protein_LIG is 9475.34
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group POPC is 33353.66
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Water_and_ions is 53973.00
Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.299, 0.299 nm
Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.299, 0.299 nm

NOTE 4 [file md.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.597592) is larger than
  rlist (1.00) - rvdw (1.20)

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Holes in the solvent!

2012-10-29 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Arman Mahboubi Soufiani
 wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Thank you for your kind and informative responses. As Dr. Chaban noted, I
> checked the density and it was roughly 880 gr.cm-3 which seems low!

Dear Arman -

You did not mention the experimental density of your system.

Whereas we expect saline solution to exhibit the density of > 1000
kg/m3, we have no idea about your polymer composition and spatial
structure.

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
MEMPHYS - Center for Biomembrane Physics
Department of Physics, Chemistry and Pharmacy
University of Southern Denmark
Campusvej 55, 5230 Odense M, Denmark




>
> I greatly appreciate your further helps.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Arman
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
> wrote:
>>
>> >> On 10/26/12 3:25 PM, Arman M. Soufiani wrote:
>> >> > Dear Gromacs users,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am simulating a protein on a polymer surface for further adsorption
>> >> free
>> >> > energy calculation.
>> >> > However, after performing the NVT run either for short or long
>> >> durations I
>> >> > found out that couple of holes appear in the physiological saline
>> >> solution
>> >> > (solvent)!!!
>> >> > Additionally, even proceeding with a long NPT run the holes are still
>> >> > present in the system.
>> >> > I would be thankful if you could direct me what could be source of
>> >> such a
>> >> > strange outcome.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That sounds very odd, but perhaps your unit cell is not sufficiently
>> >> solvated to
>> >> start with.  If you have voids, you may have available volume.
>> >>
>> >> -Justin
>>
>>
>> You must compare the simulated density with the experimental density.
>>
>> There is no other way to conclude if your holes are genuine or not in
>> this kind of matter.
>>
>>
>> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>> MEMPHYS - Center for Biomembrane Physics
>> Department of Physics, Chemistry and Pharmacy
>> University of Southern Denmark
>> Campusvej 55, 5230 Odense M, Denmark
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Re: [gmx-users] About Box vector and solvation

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 9:59 AM, vidhya sankar wrote:

  Dear Justin Thank you For you Previous reply.

 
When I use inflate script  There is Automatic  Change in the box Vector At the 
End line of .gro file (output of inflate script)   Then I have Done EM without 
Changing the Box Vector  in the output of inflate script. in the screen  i Have 
Observed the Following  Discrepancy As follows  .

Step=2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -7.91260e+04 Fmax= 2.30915e+03, atom= 6104
Step=4, Dmax= 7.2e-03 nm, Epot= -7.93164e+04 Fmax= 7.83650e+03, atom= 85
Step=7, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -8.08972e+04 Fmax= 7.87323e+03, atom= 85
Step=9, Dmax= 7.5e-03 nm, Epot= -8.11951e+04 Fmax= 3.15522e+03, atom= 85

It quits Step 3 ,4  and step 8  ( When i open em.log files  Energy  
Corresponding to 3 and 4 As follows)
Step   Time Lambda   Step   
Time Lambda Step   Time Lambda
88.00.0   3 
3.00.0 44.00.0

What it shows ? How to rectify this Problem ( I have used  .mdp file in your 
Website)




There is nothing to do.  These steps corresponded to no change in energy.  It 
happens sometimes with EM.



Can i change the box Vector in   .gro file of EM output ( I cannot change Box 
vector in System_inflated .gro As you Told me)



Never manually change a box vector.  Why would you do this?  Do you understand 
what InflateGRO is doing and why you shouldn't be making ad hoc changes?  Let 
the script do the work for you.


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Re: [gmx-users] .gro file problem

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 9:59 AM, Albert wrote:

On 10/28/2012 09:06 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:

Visual inspection with a text editor should tell you what's wrong. Either the
file is incomplete (i.e. header or box vectors missing) or the coordinates are
large (indicating the system became unstable at some point).  The fact that
VMD loads the file suggests that the latter may be true.  An incomplete file
would not load, but one with screwy coordinates still would.

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Hello Justin:

  thanks a lot for kind advices.

  I check the file with gedit and I didn't find anything unusual within the text
comparing with the original .gro file. They have the exact the same row and
columns.


Generated by trjconv : MOR t= 116.00
Generated by trjconv : MOR t= 116.0


You shouldn't have two separate title lines.  I don't know how trjconv would 
have produced garbled output like this, but I suspect it's the cause of your 
problems.


-Justin


48328
65MET  N1   4.934   1.182   7.535  0.0471  0.2110  0.3278
65METHT12   4.975   1.148   7.620 -2.1539 -2.5438  0.4303
65METHT23   4.879   1.108   7.497  0.2031  0.2641 -0.0060
65MET CA4   5.035   1.229   7.441 -0.1568 -0.5819 -0.2954
65MET HA5   5.090   1.312   7.481  2.2845 -1.6076 -1.3193
65MET CB6   5.149   1.126   7.437  0.4809  0.1027  0.0700
65METHB17   5.166   1.099   7.544 -2.2162  1.7701  1.0201
65METHB28   5.117   1.032   7.386 -3.2381  0.4514  1.4551
65MET CG9   5.283   1.173   7.379  0.1733  0.3849 -0.4145
65METHG1   10   5.340   1.078   7.384  0.4424  0.6052  2.0263
.
.
.
  9511CL  CL48320   2.101   1.980   2.259  0.0337 -0.1667  0.2316
  9512CL  CL48321   4.165   3.237  10.196 -0.4009  0.1697  0.4481
  9513CL  CL48322   5.414   4.564   9.686 -0.1624 -0.0698 -0.2503
  9514CL  CL48323   2.032   1.126   1.460  0.0876 -0.4133 -0.1336
  9515CL  CL48324   3.278   3.994   9.006  0.1073 -0.1139  0.6701
  9516CL  CL48325   1.793   3.569   9.888  0.0911  0.2208 -0.0272
  9517CL  CL48326   1.046   2.735   1.322  0.1044  0.2204  0.4059
  9518CL  CL48327   3.384   4.016   1.983  0.0078  0.1266 -0.1903
  9519CL  CL48328   0.044   3.730   0.932 -0.2059  0.0577  0.3350
6.69862   6.69862  10.42296

thank you very much


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[gmx-users] version 4.5.5 GPU with gtx670 and cuda 4.2

2012-10-29 Thread sebastian
Hey all together,

I try to run the 4.5.5 gpu version with the NVIDIA gtx670 cards.

Using:

mdrun-gpu -v -s bla.tpr -device
"OpenMM:platform=Cuda,memtest=15,deviceid=1,force-device=yes"

(diveceid=1 since I have two cards and want to use the second card).
I get the following error:

OpenMM exception caught while initializating: cudaMemcpyToSymbol: SetSim
copy to cSim failed invalid device symbol

The installed cuda version is 4.2 and the OpenMM version is 4.1.1

Since I have no idea whats going wrong any help is very welcomed

Thanks a lot

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[gmx-users] About Box vector and solvation

2012-10-29 Thread vidhya sankar
 Dear Justin Thank you For you Previous reply. 

    
When I use inflate script  There is Automatic  Change in the box Vector At the 
End line of .gro file (output of inflate script)   Then I have Done EM without 
Changing the Box Vector  in the output of inflate script. in the screen  i Have 
Observed the Following  Discrepancy As follows  .

Step=    2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -7.91260e+04 Fmax= 2.30915e+03, atom= 6104
Step=    4, Dmax= 7.2e-03 nm, Epot= -7.93164e+04 Fmax= 7.83650e+03, atom= 85
Step=    7, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -8.08972e+04 Fmax= 7.87323e+03, atom= 85
Step=    9, Dmax= 7.5e-03 nm, Epot= -8.11951e+04 Fmax= 3.15522e+03, atom= 85

It quits Step 3 ,4  and step 8  ( When i open em.log files  Energy  
Corresponding to 3 and 4 As follows)
   Step   Time Lambda                   Step   
Time Lambda         Step   Time Lambda
   8    8.0    0.0       3         
3.0    0.0     4    4.0    0.0

What it shows ? How to rectify this Problem ( I have used  .mdp file in your 
Website)


Can i change the box Vector in   .gro file of EM output ( I cannot change Box 
vector in System_inflated .gro As you Told me)  
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Re: [gmx-users] .gro file problem

2012-10-29 Thread Albert

On 10/28/2012 09:06 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:
Visual inspection with a text editor should tell you what's wrong. 
Either the file is incomplete (i.e. header or box vectors missing) or 
the coordinates are large (indicating the system became unstable at 
some point).  The fact that VMD loads the file suggests that the 
latter may be true.  An incomplete file would not load, but one with 
screwy coordinates still would.


-Justin

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Hello Justin:

 thanks a lot for kind advices.

 I check the file with gedit and I didn't find anything unusual within 
the text comparing with the original .gro file. They have the exact the 
same row and columns.



Generated by trjconv : MOR t= 116.00
Generated by trjconv : MOR t= 116.0
48328
   65MET  N1   4.934   1.182   7.535  0.0471  0.2110  0.3278
   65METHT12   4.975   1.148   7.620 -2.1539 -2.5438  0.4303
   65METHT23   4.879   1.108   7.497  0.2031  0.2641 -0.0060
   65MET CA4   5.035   1.229   7.441 -0.1568 -0.5819 -0.2954
   65MET HA5   5.090   1.312   7.481  2.2845 -1.6076 -1.3193
   65MET CB6   5.149   1.126   7.437  0.4809  0.1027  0.0700
   65METHB17   5.166   1.099   7.544 -2.2162  1.7701  1.0201
   65METHB28   5.117   1.032   7.386 -3.2381  0.4514  1.4551
   65MET CG9   5.283   1.173   7.379  0.1733  0.3849 -0.4145
   65METHG1   10   5.340   1.078   7.384  0.4424  0.6052  2.0263
.
.
.
 9511CL  CL48320   2.101   1.980   2.259  0.0337 -0.1667  0.2316
 9512CL  CL48321   4.165   3.237  10.196 -0.4009  0.1697  0.4481
 9513CL  CL48322   5.414   4.564   9.686 -0.1624 -0.0698 -0.2503
 9514CL  CL48323   2.032   1.126   1.460  0.0876 -0.4133 -0.1336
 9515CL  CL48324   3.278   3.994   9.006  0.1073 -0.1139  0.6701
 9516CL  CL48325   1.793   3.569   9.888  0.0911  0.2208 -0.0272
 9517CL  CL48326   1.046   2.735   1.322  0.1044  0.2204  0.4059
 9518CL  CL48327   3.384   4.016   1.983  0.0078  0.1266 -0.1903
 9519CL  CL48328   0.044   3.730   0.932 -0.2059  0.0577  0.3350
   6.69862   6.69862  10.42296

thank you very much
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Holes in the solvent!

2012-10-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/29/12 9:38 AM, Arman Mahboubi Soufiani wrote:

Dear Friends,

Thank you for your kind and informative responses. As Dr. Chaban noted, I
checked the density and it was roughly 880 gr.cm-3 which seems low!

I greatly appreciate your further helps.


Most water models underestimate water density, so that is likely a contributing 
factor.  You haven't told us much about your setup, so it's hard to guess what 
you should be expecting.  You also haven't said how large your polymer is in 
relation to the size of the box, so that could affect the outcome, as well.  A 
picture showing these "holes" would also be useful, as they very well could be a 
PBC effect and thus totally normal.  From your description, I was assuming the 
holes were within the solvent, but if they are at the box "edges" then likely 
what you are seeing is normal.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Holes in the solvent!

2012-10-29 Thread Arman Mahboubi Soufiani
Dear Friends,

Thank you for your kind and informative responses. As Dr. Chaban noted, I
checked the density and it was roughly 880 gr.cm-3 which seems low!

I greatly appreciate your further helps.

Best Wishes

Arman

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote:

> >> On 10/26/12 3:25 PM, Arman M. Soufiani wrote:
> >> > Dear Gromacs users,
> >> >
> >> > I am simulating a protein on a polymer surface for further adsorption
> >> free
> >> > energy calculation.
> >> > However, after performing the NVT run either for short or long
> >> durations I
> >> > found out that couple of holes appear in the physiological saline
> >> solution
> >> > (solvent)!!!
> >> > Additionally, even proceeding with a long NPT run the holes are still
> >> > present in the system.
> >> > I would be thankful if you could direct me what could be source of
> >> such a
> >> > strange outcome.
> >> >
> >>
> >> That sounds very odd, but perhaps your unit cell is not sufficiently
> >> solvated to
> >> start with.  If you have voids, you may have available volume.
> >>
> >> -Justin
>
>
> You must compare the simulated density with the experimental density.
>
> There is no other way to conclude if your holes are genuine or not in
> this kind of matter.
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
> MEMPHYS - Center for Biomembrane Physics
> Department of Physics, Chemistry and Pharmacy
> University of Southern Denmark
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Re: [gmx-users] criterion of the convergence of the simulation

2012-10-29 Thread Thomas Evangelidis
What do you mean by "convergence"? The point at which the molecule finishes
adapting to the system conditions and starts exploring the energy
landscape? The point at which it has explored the whole conformational
space? Or something else?



On 29 October 2012 10:44, Atila Petrosian  wrote:

> Dear all
>
> I want to know what is criterion of the convergence of the simulation in
> the gromacs.
>
> Any help will highly appreciated.
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