[gmx-users] Re: Re: Pull code with pull_geometry = cylinder generates error: Distance of pull group 1 (4.030185 nm) is larger than 0.49 times the box size (3.012310)

2012-11-01 Thread Emma Eriksson
I have gone through the pull parameters in version 4.0 and 4.5 a bit more after 
our previous discussion and I have found the following related to the value of 
pull_init1. 
pull_geometry = distance or direction generate the same distance at start with 
grompp no matter what value is set to pull_init1, and it is the same in version 
4.0 as in 4.5. However, for pull_geometry = cylinder in version 4.5 I find that 
the measured distance at start varies with the value on pull_init1. For a 
molecule at distance -0.026 nm from the reference group (value from version 
4.0) I obtain the following with grompp in version 4.5:

pull_init1 = 0 gives start distance -0.026
pull_init1 = 1 gives start distance -0.026
pull_init1 = 2 gives start distance 0.605
pull_init1 = 3 gives start distance 2.596
pull_init1 = 4 gives the error that the distance of the pull group is larger 
than 0.49 times the box size.

In version 4.0, all values of pull_init1 generate the distance at start = 
-0.026. 
I will set pull_init1 to -0.026 or use pull_start = yes in this case and it 
would give the result that I want. From these findings I assumed that the value 
of pull_init1 was somehow added to the measured distance in version 4.5. 
However, for another system in which the distance between the groups is -2.996 
nm, the following is obtained:

pull_init1 = 0 gives start distance -0.465 
pull_init1 = 1 gives start distance 1.014 
pull_init1 = 2 gives the error that the distance of the pull group is larger 
than 0.49 times the box size.  
pull_init1 = 3 gives the error that the distance of the pull group is larger 
than 0.49 times the box size. 
pull_init1 = 4 gives the error that the distance of the pull group is larger 
than 0.49 times the box size. 

Here, pull_init1 = 3 can thus not be used; opposite to the previous case in 
which a value of pull_init1 close to the measured distance seemed to work. If I 
instead use pull_geometry = distance or direction all values of pull_init1 
generate the error that the distance of the pull group is larger than 0.49 
times the box size. In version 4.0, the value of pull_init1 does, again, not 
affect the distance at start. I interpret pull_init1 as the reference distance 
at start (i.e. the initial distance that I want to constrain as I am not 
pulling the molecule) and I thought that this should not affect the measured 
distance at start that grompp displays, at least that is what can be concluded 
from version 4.0. Could someone please help me to figure this out? Thanks.

Emma


 On 2012-10-08 09:05, Emma Eriksson wrote:
 Thank you David for your response. Please see my reply below.

 On 2012-10-04 11:50, Emma Eriksson wrote:
 Dear all,

 I am using the pull code in Gromacs 4.5.5 to constrain the distance in one 
 direction (z) between a small molecule and a lipid bilayer. I run separate 
 simulations with distances 0-4 nm constrained. I use pull_geometry = 
 cylinder. The pull parameters are the following:

 pull   = constraint
 pull_geometry   = cylinder
 pull_r1  = 1.0
 pull_r0  = 1.5
 pull_group0   = DMPC
 pull_group1   = 2
 pull_vec1  = 0 0 1
 pull_init1   = x

 I have previously been using the same methodology in 4.0.5 without problems. 
 When i run grompp in 4.5.5 I get the following error:

 Fatal error:
 Distance of pull group 1 (4.030185 nm) is larger than 0.49 times the box 
 size (3.012310)

 The source of the first value, which should be the distance of pull group 1 
 is for me unknown. A value of ~4 is generated for all systems no matter what 
 z distance is actually betwen the two groups (0-4 nm), so the value has no 
 connection to the z distance between the groups. The second value is 0.5 
 times the x box length. I have read through pull.c, but I cannot find an 
 explanation to why the x direction seems to be considered and not the z 
 direction. When I run grompp with pull_geometry = distance or direction 
 together with pull_dim = N N Y there is no problem.

 As I am not sure of the source of this error when running with cylinder I do 
 not know if it is only related to the check or if the following simulation 
 would be affected if I uncomment the check.

 Any suggestions to why this is happening and what I can do about it?
 Check the other pull_XXX values in mdout.mdp
 You have not specified all of them above, e.g. pull_direction?

 The pull parameter section in mdout.mdp are the following:
 ; COM PULLING
 ; Pull type: no, umbrella, constraint or constant_force
 pull = constraint
 ; Pull geometry: distance, direction, cylinder or position
 pull_geometry= cylinder
 ; Select components for the pull vector. default: Y Y Y
 pull_dim = Y Y Y
 ; Cylinder radius for dynamic reaction force groups (nm)
 pull_r1  = 1.0
 ; Switch from r1 to r0 in case of dynamic reaction force
 pull_r0  = 1.5
 pull_constr_tol   

Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:

Hi GMX-users,


Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

Thanks for replying,

Yukun

there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you 
can download. Use with care.


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Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread Yorquant Wang
Hi David:
I have tested the script.  The input are 1 charmm topology file,
2 corresponding charmm parameter file and 3 foldername. But there are a
lots of top_all***.rtf files and par_all***.prm files in
toppar_c36_aug12/toppar folder, I don't know which pair is the correct
pair. Could you give me a clue?
The new parameter for cholesterol is stored in chol_new.str. If it is
OK that I just put chol_new.str into the toppar_c36_aug12/toppar/
folder and transfer it directly.

Thank you for replying!
yorquant


2012/11/1 David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se

 On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:

 Hi GMX-users,


 Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
 provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
 corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

 Thanks for replying,

 Yukun

  there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you
 can download. Use with care.

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[gmx-users] Getting the constraint force from the LINCS algorith

2012-11-01 Thread Tom Kirchner

Dear Gromacs user,

This question is directed foremost on Berk Hess, but it may be 
interesting  also for other users.


Berk Hess evaluated the force between two ions separated by the LINCS 
algorithm (Berk Hess et al Osmotic coefficients of atomistic NaCl force 
fields).


My question is, how did he do this? g_energy is not able to provide me 
with this output. Searching the mailing list, the web and the manual 
gave me no result.


I know there are other methods to constrain the distance between two 
ions (shake, bonds etc.) but as the LINCS algorithm is effective in 
keeping the distance on the ions, I would like to use that.


Many thanks in advance,
Best

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[gmx-users] Simulation of charged systems

2012-11-01 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD

Dear Colleagues,

I am currently carrying out MD simulations on models of archaeal 
membranes. These membranes, contrary to those of bacteria or eukariota, 
are made of unconventional lipids. In my case they contain a neutral 
carbohydrate headgroup and the second one is a negatively charged 
phospho-myoinositol, contrary to neutral (zwitterionic) phosphocholine 
found in conventional lipids. In order to have a neutral system to carry 
out the simulation on:


1. I could add 36 positive counterions (eg, Na+) to my membrane model, 
which would correspond to approx. 900 mM of these ions for the amount of 
water molecules I am using. This concentration is of course not only 
much higher than a physiological one, although it is, strictly speaking, 
not a salt, i.e. NaCl, concentration. The issue is that I would like to 
study the effect of salt (alkali cations) on the membrane properties and 
therefore would need a suitable, possible ion/salt-free system as 
reference state.


2. I could protonate the phosphate and have -O-P(OOH)-O- instead of 
-O-P(O2-)-O-. This would provide a neutral, salt-free reference state, 
but the issue is that this phosphate group would be probably 
de-protonated in the cellular compartment it is localized, which has a 
pH of approx 6.


Another option would be to run the simulations on the charged system, 
without counterions, but I am not quite sure if there are technical 
problems with that. I am using the following settings for the treatment 
of long-range electrostatics:


; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics

pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16   ; grid spacing for FFT

I wonder if someone could kindly advise me in this issue.

Any suggestion or comment will be highly appreciated.

Best regards,

Felipe

 
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[gmx-users] Defining strongly interdependent dihedral force constants

2012-11-01 Thread mts503
I'm trying to model a species for which the force field I'm using (OPLS-AA)
doesn't contain all the force constants needed for some of the groups
present. I've successfully defined several angle and dihedral force
constants using quantum mechanical simulations to generate potential energy
curves and I'm happy that the method works, however there are a few that I'm
struggling with. 

The specific dihedrals are adjacent ones between aromatic rings with a
bridging atom between, e.g CA-CA-X-CA' and CA-X-CA'-CA', where the CA atoms
are part of a phenyl ring and CA' atoms are in a napthyl group (Napth-X-Ph). 

It seems that there is a large amount of inter-dependence between the two
dihedrals to the degree that the energy difference I'm trying to fit for one
varies significantly with the value of the other angle. Fixing one dihedral
at its most favourable angle and fitting the other (and vice-versa) results
in a potential energy surface that is quite different to that obtained by
quantum mechanics. 

Has anyone else managed to fit a similar system with strongly coupled
dihedrals? Any suggestions or advice would be much appreciated!



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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread Erik Marklund

31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
 On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
 simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
 significant clue.
 
 At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the 
 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
 

If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would get 
such information with -contact.

Erik


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Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-01 09:47, Yorquant Wang wrote:

Hi David:
 I have tested the script.  The input are 1 charmm topology file,
2 corresponding charmm parameter file and 3 foldername. But there are a
lots of top_all***.rtf files and par_all***.prm files in
toppar_c36_aug12/toppar folder, I don't know which pair is the correct
pair. Could you give me a clue?
 The new parameter for cholesterol is stored in chol_new.str. If it is
OK that I just put chol_new.str into the toppar_c36_aug12/toppar/
folder and transfer it directly.


Don't know. I think you  need everything gromacs related that comes out.

Do it in an empty directory.


 Thank you for replying!
yorquant


2012/11/1 David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se


On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:


Hi GMX-users,


Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

Thanks for replying,

Yukun

  there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you

can download. Use with care.

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Re: [gmx-users] tc-grps in Temperature coupling

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 9:19 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All users

What difference is between two codes?




Read this: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats.  I 
don't know what LI and LG are (lithium and something else?) but likely the 
latter approach is not correct.


-Justin


; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= berendsen
tc-grps= System   ---   whole system
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 240
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl= berendsen
pcoupltype= isotropic
tau_p= 2.0
ref_p= 300.0
compressibility = 4.5e-5

-

; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tc-grps=  SOL  LILG
---  selecting groups
tau_t   =  0.1  0.10.1; ps
ref_t   =  240  240240; K

Pcoupl  =  berendsen
Pcoupltype  =  isotropic
tau_p   =  2
compressibility =  4e-5
ref_p   =  300




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[gmx-users] regarding converge of system

2012-11-01 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Hi,

I have two questions:

1-We can say The RMSD is commonly used as an indicator of convergence
of the structure towards an equilibrium state (Tsjerk W.). RMSD is
not sufficient to determine whether or not converge of
structure/system. Why?

2-Radius of gyration, RMSD, rmsd matrix are used as an indicator of
convergence of the structure. are there other indicators of
convergence of the structure?

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] regarding converge of system

2012-11-01 Thread Christopher Neale
RMSD of what? Probably you mean RMSD from the starting (or crystal) structure. 
First, consider that your profile
of RMSD vs. crystal structure levels off at 0.4 nm with increasing simulation 
time. Consider how many possible 
conformations are 0.4 nm RMSD away from the crystal structure. A stable RMSD 
does not necessarily indicate
that you have obtained Boltzmann sampling of a particular conformational basin. 
Very generally, it is the 
degeneracy of RMSD with respect to conformational space that makes RMSD an 
insufficient indicator of
convergence. There are other ways to look at this though. For instance, there 
might be an important degree of
freedom that is important for your system but does not greatly affect the 
global conformation (and thus the 
RMSD). This might be a dihedral angle, formation of a hydrogen bond, 
tilt/rotation of a protein/peptide in a 
lipid bilayer, solvation patterns, ligand binding, system volume, etc.

Also, and I presume that this is not what Tsjerk meant (but you should check 
whatever reference you are referring
to) it is always possible that you remain stuck within a conformational basin 
that is locally favourable but globally
unfavourable.

For other measures of convergence, first think about what you are trying to 
study for your system and use that
to guide your selection of properties for which you can evaluate convergence. 
This should include both global
and local structural measures. There are loads of papers available that discuss 
this. See papers by Grossfield,
Zuckerman, and others. A colleague of mine has also shown that some properties 
converge faster than others
(meaning that some properties, like the RMSD, converge before the partition 
function has converged: 
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct900302n ).

Chris.

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I have two questions:

1-We can say The RMSD is commonly used as an indicator of convergence
of the structure towards an equilibrium state (Tsjerk W.). RMSD is
not sufficient to determine whether or not converge of
structure/system. Why?

2-Radius of gyration, RMSD, rmsd matrix are used as an indicator of
convergence of the structure. are there other indicators of
convergence of the structure?

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] Regarding g_tune_pme optimization

2012-11-01 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear all Gromacs users,

I have *two *questions:

1) I have been doing my simulation on a computer having 24
 processors. I issued *g_tune_pme -s *.tpr  -launch *command to
directly launch my *mdrun *with the optimized settings. At the end of
optimization, g_tune_pme has given -npme as *'0'*. My doubt is, how could
it be possible to get best performance without dedicated PME nodes?

2) What could be the optimum value for *-rcom *to get the best performance
on a super cluster (*i.e., 256 nodes*)?

Thanks in advance


With Best Wishes
Venkat Reddy Chirasani
PhD student
Laboratory of Computational Biophysics
Department of Biotechnology
IIT Madras
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[gmx-users] carbohydrate forcefield in gromacs

2012-11-01 Thread Sanku M
Hi,
  Is carbohydrate forcefield in Charmm or Amber included in gromacs4.5.5 
topology folders ? 
Sanku
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[gmx-users] are wall atoms virtual ?

2012-11-01 Thread harshaljain950

Dear all,

My system consists of Two walls of carbon atoms but I am not able to view
the carbon atom walls in VMD.
Also my topology file have no information about wall atoms. 

So is it possible to see them somehow or my system has no walls indeed ?



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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding g_tune_pme optimization

2012-11-01 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi,

On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all Gromacs users,
 
 I have *two *questions:
 
 1) I have been doing my simulation on a computer having 24
 processors. I issued *g_tune_pme -s *.tpr  -launch *command to
 directly launch my *mdrun *with the optimized settings. At the end of
 optimization, g_tune_pme has given -npme as *'0'*. My doubt is, how could
 it be possible to get best performance without dedicated PME nodes?
This is normal, it just means that 24 PME nodes are optimal and thus no
*separate* PME nodes are needed.

Carsten

 2) What could be the optimum value for *-rcom *to get the best performance
 on a super cluster (*i.e., 256 nodes*)?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 With Best Wishes
 Venkat Reddy Chirasani
 PhD student
 Laboratory of Computational Biophysics
 Department of Biotechnology
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[gmx-users] About APL And Shrunken System Size

2012-11-01 Thread vidhya sankar
I gave My cmd Prompt output for  satisfactorily shrunken 
system  as follows  


Reading. 
Scaling lipids
There are 127 lipids...
with 50 atoms per lipid..
Determining upper and lower leaflet...
64 lipids in the upper...
63 lipids in the lower leaflet 
Centering protein
Writing scaled bilayer  centered protein...
Calculating Area per lipid...
Protein X-min/max: 98    119
Protein Y-min/max: 99    117
X-range: 21 A    Y-range: 18 A
Building 21 X 18 2D grid on protein coordinates...
Calculating area occupied by protein..
full TMD..
upper TMD
lower TMD
Area per protein: 3.75 nm^2
Area per lipid: 6.60886502362205 nm^2
Area per protein, upper half: 2.75 nm^2
Area per lipid, upper leaflet : 6.572858265625 nm^2
Area per protein, lower half: 3 nm^2
Area per lipid, lower leaflet : 6.67322109523809 nm^2
Writing Area per lipid...


In  the final Energy minimization  (.gro file) of the satisfactorily shrunken 
system  The Box vectors  Has been Increased form 6 6  6 6 to
 20.57700  20.57700   6.0

Then  As you Told Me the There  is Something wrong Because   Such Large x-y 
Area is not Possible with Quoted  APL ( 6.60886502362205 nm^2)
May I Increase the Initial box size ? 

Why this Happens and  Where I have Committed the Mistake ?  My system is Cyclic 
Peptide I am grateful if you Give suggestion and Commments

Thanks In Advance










Done!

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Re: [gmx-users] About APL And Shrunken System Size

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 12:48 PM, vidhya sankar wrote:

I gave My cmd Prompt output for  satisfactorily shrunken
system  as follows



What was your command that produced this output?



Reading.
Scaling lipids
There are 127 lipids...
with 50 atoms per lipid..
Determining upper and lower leaflet...
64 lipids in the upper...
63 lipids in the lower leaflet
Centering protein
Writing scaled bilayer  centered protein...
Calculating Area per lipid...
Protein X-min/max: 98119
Protein Y-min/max: 99117
X-range: 21 AY-range: 18 A
Building 21 X 18 2D grid on protein coordinates...
Calculating area occupied by protein..
full TMD..
upper TMD
lower TMD
Area per protein: 3.75 nm^2
Area per lipid: 6.60886502362205 nm^2
Area per protein, upper half: 2.75 nm^2
Area per lipid, upper leaflet : 6.572858265625 nm^2
Area per protein, lower half: 3 nm^2
Area per lipid, lower leaflet : 6.67322109523809 nm^2
Writing Area per lipid...


In  the final Energy minimization  (.gro file) of the satisfactorily shrunken
system  The Box vectors  Has been Increased form 6 6  6 6 to
  20.57700  20.57700   6.0



Please use real file names and tell me where this comes from.


Then  As you Told Me the There  is Something wrong Because   Such Large x-y 
Area is not Possible with Quoted  APL ( 6.60886502362205 nm^2)


Yes, it is absolutely impossible to have that APL in a system that has an x-y 
area of over 42000 A^2.  I suspect you're confusing your files.



May I Increase the Initial box size ?



I have already suggested that you make no manual modifications to box vectors.


Why this Happens and  Where I have Committed the Mistake ?  My system is Cyclic 
Peptide I am grateful if you Give suggestion and Commments



Please answer all questions posed above directly.  I suspect you are mixing up 
files but I can't possibly guess what is going on.  Your assertions do not add 
up and I can't suggest a resolution without complete information.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] why it is so slow

2012-11-01 Thread Albert

hello:

 I am running a 40ns REMD with GBSA solvent NPT simulations. It is 
exchange for 16 different temperature with exchange step 300.


mpiexec -n 384 /opt/gromacs/4.5.5/bin/mdrun -nosum -dlb yes -v -s 
remd_.tpr -multi 16 -replex 300



I found that it will require 1 months to be finished which is a really 
long time.


I am just wondering is there anything I did wrong for the .mdp so that 
it is so slow? here is my .mdp file.


thank you very much





title = Protein-ligand complex NPT equilibration
; Run parameters
integrator = sd ;
nsteps = 2000 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt = 0.002 ; 2 fs
nstxout = 0 ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 0 ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstfout = 0

nstxtcout = 500
nstenergy = 100 ; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog = 1000 ; update log file every 0.2 ps
energygrps = Protein_LIG
; Bond parameters
continuation = yes ; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs ; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) constrained
lincs_iter = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = simple ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 0 ; 10 fs
rlist = 0 ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb = 0 ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw = 0 ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)

; Electrostatics
coulombtype = cutoff ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range electrostatics
pme_order = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing = 0.15 ; grid spacing for FFT

; Temperature coupling
tcoupl = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein_LIG  ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t = 0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t = 310 ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K

; Pressure coupling
pcoupl = no; pressure coupling is on for NPT
; Periodic boundary conditions
; Pressure coupling
pcoupl = no; pressure coupling is on for NPT
; Periodic boundary conditions
tau_p   = 2.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   ; reference pressure, in bar
pbc=no
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = no ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; uniform scaling of box vectors
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes ; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution
gen_temp = 310 ; temperature for Maxwell distribution
gen_seed = -1 ; generate a random seed
ld_seed=-1

; IMPLICIT SOLVENT ALGORITHM
implicit_solvent = GBSA
comm_mode = ANGULAR

; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS
; Algorithm for calculating Born radii
gb_algorithm = OBC
; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist
nstgbradii = 1
; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms
; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps
rgbradii = 0
; Dielectric coefficient of the implicit solvent
gb_epsilon_solvent = 80
; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models
gb_saltconc = 0
; Scaling factors used in the OBC GB model. Default values are OBC(II)
gb_obc_alpha = 1
gb_obc_beta = 0.8
gb_obc_gamma = 4.85
gb_dielectric_offset = 0.009
sa_algorithm = Ace-approximation
; Surface tension (kJ/mol/nm^2) for the SA (nonpolar surface) part of GBSA
; The value -1 will set default value for Still/HCT/OBC GB-models.
sa_surface_tension = 2.25936


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Re: [gmx-users] why it is so slow

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 12:55 PM, Albert wrote:

hello:

  I am running a 40ns REMD with GBSA solvent NPT simulations. It is exchange for
16 different temperature with exchange step 300.



Based on your .mdp file, you're not doing NPT (pcoupl = no).


mpiexec -n 384 /opt/gromacs/4.5.5/bin/mdrun -nosum -dlb yes -v -s remd_.tpr
-multi 16 -replex 300


I found that it will require 1 months to be finished which is a really long 
time.

I am just wondering is there anything I did wrong for the .mdp so that it is so
slow? here is my .mdp file.



One month is not very long, especially if you are running on CPU and not GPU. 
How many atoms are in your system?  How did you decide that 24 CPU per replica 
was appropriate?  How did you decide on your exchange frequency?  Exchanging 
every 0.6 ps sounds awfully frequent, but I'm no REMD expert so I'll leave that 
for others to comment on.


-Justin


thank you very much





title = Protein-ligand complex NPT equilibration
; Run parameters
integrator = sd ;
nsteps = 2000 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt = 0.002 ; 2 fs
nstxout = 0 ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 0 ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstfout = 0

nstxtcout = 500
nstenergy = 100 ; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog = 1000 ; update log file every 0.2 ps
energygrps = Protein_LIG
; Bond parameters
continuation = yes ; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs ; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) constrained
lincs_iter = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = simple ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 0 ; 10 fs
rlist = 0 ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb = 0 ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw = 0 ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)

; Electrostatics
coulombtype = cutoff ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range electrostatics
pme_order = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing = 0.15 ; grid spacing for FFT

; Temperature coupling
tcoupl = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein_LIG  ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t = 0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t = 310 ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K

; Pressure coupling
pcoupl = no; pressure coupling is on for NPT
; Periodic boundary conditions
; Pressure coupling
pcoupl = no; pressure coupling is on for NPT
; Periodic boundary conditions
tau_p   = 2.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   ; reference pressure, in bar
pbc=no
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = no ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; uniform scaling of box vectors
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes ; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution
gen_temp = 310 ; temperature for Maxwell distribution
gen_seed = -1 ; generate a random seed
ld_seed=-1

; IMPLICIT SOLVENT ALGORITHM
implicit_solvent = GBSA
comm_mode = ANGULAR

; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS
; Algorithm for calculating Born radii
gb_algorithm = OBC
; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist
nstgbradii = 1
; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms
; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps
rgbradii = 0
; Dielectric coefficient of the implicit solvent
gb_epsilon_solvent = 80
; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models
gb_saltconc = 0
; Scaling factors used in the OBC GB model. Default values are OBC(II)
gb_obc_alpha = 1
gb_obc_beta = 0.8
gb_obc_gamma = 4.85
gb_dielectric_offset = 0.009
sa_algorithm = Ace-approximation
; Surface tension (kJ/mol/nm^2) for the SA (nonpolar surface) part of GBSA
; The value -1 will set default value for Still/HCT/OBC GB-models.
sa_surface_tension = 2.25936




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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread bipin singh
Thanks for your response. Hope to see this feature in upcoming GROMACS
release. Before that, could it be possible to get the modified code in the
user contribution section, it may be useful for many GROMACS users.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:


 31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
  On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
  simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
  significant clue.
 
  At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the
 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
 

 If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
 get such information with -contact.

 Erik


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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 1:23 PM, bipin singh wrote:

Thanks for your response. Hope to see this feature in upcoming GROMACS
release. Before that, could it be possible to get the modified code in the
user contribution section, it may be useful for many GROMACS users.



If someone writes the code, certainly.  Gromacs is a user-driven community, 
after all :)


If there is a feature you want, file a feature request on redmine.gromacs.org, 
otherwise no one is likely to pay much attention to it, as other, much larger 
changes are ongoing.


-Justin



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:



31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:




On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:

Hello all,

Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
significant clue.


At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the

g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.




If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
get such information with -contact.

Erik



-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re, g_rdf

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 12:25 PM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear Justin

These attachments are my rdf,g(r) profiles,

http://tb18.trainbit.com/d/8692999884.jpg

http://tb18.trainbit.com/d/6692999884.jpg

http://tb18.trainbit.com/d/9692999884.jpg




You've got an inhomogeneous system; you can't expect it to behave like a 
homogeneous system.  For a system of pure water, convergence to 1 is expected. 
For a multi-layer system like this one, I don't know what the expected outcome 
is for the RDF.


-Justin


Dear All users



I have a system that contains water , methane and propane in 240 k and 300

bar,


My simulation box is rectangular .



Water film is in middle of my box. Methane and propane is around it.



My simulation box is symmetric,



1- I used g_rdf program for . My result is exotic. My g(r) in profile do

not reach to ! Why


2- I test my number density profiles(from g_density) but they do not

correct result because when i


calculate number of my molecules by multiplying volume to average number

density, i can not take the same number of my particle,


Where do i mistake?





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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread bipin singh
Thanks for the information.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/1/12 1:23 PM, bipin singh wrote:

 Thanks for your response. Hope to see this feature in upcoming GROMACS
 release. Before that, could it be possible to get the modified code in the
 user contribution section, it may be useful for many GROMACS users.


 If someone writes the code, certainly.  Gromacs is a user-driven
 community, after all :)

 If there is a feature you want, file a feature request on
 redmine.gromacs.org, otherwise no one is likely to pay much attention to
 it, as other, much larger changes are ongoing.

 -Justin



 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:


 31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:



 On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:

 Hello all,

 Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
 simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
 significant clue.


 At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the

 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.



 If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
 get such information with -contact.

 Erik


  -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread Sanku M
Bipin,
  There might be a workaround. You might want to check out Plumed plugin in 
latest versions of VMD for calculating fractions of native contact. You can 
load the gromacs trajectory along with the native .gro file in VMD and use 
Plumed plugin inbuilt in VMD . You need to install plumed most probably early.




 From: bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation
 
Thanks for your response. Hope to see this feature in upcoming GROMACS
release. Before that, could it be possible to get the modified code in the
user contribution section, it may be useful for many GROMACS users.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:


 31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
  On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
  simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
  significant clue.
 
  At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the
 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
 

 If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
 get such information with -contact.

 Erik


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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread Oliver Beckstein
 Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
 simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
 significant clue.
 
 At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the 
 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
 
 
 If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would get 
 such information with -contact.
 

In the meantime you might be able to use MDAnalysis 
http://mdanalysis.googlecode.com/ and the native contact analysis in 
MDAnalysis.analysis.contacts, see 
http://packages.python.org/MDAnalysis/documentation_pages/analysis/contacts.html

(If you have questions about MDAnalysis then please ask them on that project's 
discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/mdnalysis-discussion — people 
there are more than happy to help.)

Best wishes,
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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread bipin singh
Thanks a lot Oliver for the useful information.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Oliver Beckstein obeck...@asu.edu wrote:

  Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
  simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
  significant clue.
 
  At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the
 g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
 
 
  If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
 get such information with -contact.
 

 In the meantime you might be able to use MDAnalysis
 http://mdanalysis.googlecode.com/ and the native contact analysis in
 MDAnalysis.analysis.contacts, see
 http://packages.python.org/MDAnalysis/documentation_pages/analysis/contacts.html

 (If you have questions about MDAnalysis then please ask them on that
 project's discussion group
 http://groups.google.com/group/mdnalysis-discussion — people there are
 more than happy to help.)

 Best wishes,
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[gmx-users] Hessian Unit

2012-11-01 Thread Yao Yao





 
hi Gmxers,

is the Hessian matrix unit in gmx is ps^(-2), or 

J *mol^(-1) nm^(-2)?

thanks,

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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-11-01 Thread bipin singh
Thanks a lot Sanku for your help.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Sanku M msank...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Bipin,
   There might be a workaround. You might want to check out Plumed plugin
 in latest versions of VMD for calculating fractions of native contact. You
 can load the gromacs trajectory along with the native .gro file in VMD and
 use Plumed plugin inbuilt in VMD . You need to install plumed most probably
 early.



 
  From: bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

 Thanks for your response. Hope to see this feature in upcoming GROMACS
 release. Before that, could it be possible to get the modified code in the
 user contribution section, it may be useful for many GROMACS users.


 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:

 
  31 okt 2012 kl. 13.43 skrev Justin Lemkul:
 
  
  
   On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:
   Hello all,
  
   Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
   simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
   significant clue.
  
   At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the
  g_mindist code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.
  
 
  If one could get the -sel option of g_hbond to work again then you would
  get such information with -contact.
 
  Erik
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding converge of system

2012-11-01 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey :)

If I say something is commonly used, I don't mean that the usage is correct
:p Chris' answer is quite good though, and I can't add much more, except
maybe that the RMSD, being a distance, isn't a good indicator of
convergence, when it reaches the point of saying 'far away'. There's just
too much far away; the conformational space associated with an RMSD of 0.7
or more is huge! So if a structure stays at that distance, it may still be
flying around like there's no tomorrow. The convergence of the RMSD against
the average structure will be better, and so is the drift in the average
structure itself. Note though, that these may still show apparent (or
false) convergence if they stay in a particular region of conformational
space.

Cheers,

Tsjerk



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Christopher Neale 
chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca wrote:

 RMSD of what? Probably you mean RMSD from the starting (or crystal)
 structure. First, consider that your profile
 of RMSD vs. crystal structure levels off at 0.4 nm with increasing
 simulation time. Consider how many possible
 conformations are 0.4 nm RMSD away from the crystal structure. A stable
 RMSD does not necessarily indicate
 that you have obtained Boltzmann sampling of a particular conformational
 basin. Very generally, it is the
 degeneracy of RMSD with respect to conformational space that makes RMSD an
 insufficient indicator of
 convergence. There are other ways to look at this though. For instance,
 there might be an important degree of
 freedom that is important for your system but does not greatly affect the
 global conformation (and thus the
 RMSD). This might be a dihedral angle, formation of a hydrogen bond,
 tilt/rotation of a protein/peptide in a
 lipid bilayer, solvation patterns, ligand binding, system volume, etc.

 Also, and I presume that this is not what Tsjerk meant (but you should
 check whatever reference you are referring
 to) it is always possible that you remain stuck within a conformational
 basin that is locally favourable but globally
 unfavourable.

 For other measures of convergence, first think about what you are trying
 to study for your system and use that
 to guide your selection of properties for which you can evaluate
 convergence. This should include both global
 and local structural measures. There are loads of papers available that
 discuss this. See papers by Grossfield,
 Zuckerman, and others. A colleague of mine has also shown that some
 properties converge faster than others
 (meaning that some properties, like the RMSD, converge before the
 partition function has converged:
 http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct900302n ).

 Chris.

 -- original message --

 I have two questions:

 1-We can say The RMSD is commonly used as an indicator of convergence
 of the structure towards an equilibrium state (Tsjerk W.). RMSD is
 not sufficient to determine whether or not converge of
 structure/system. Why?

 2-Radius of gyration, RMSD, rmsd matrix are used as an indicator of
 convergence of the structure. are there other indicators of
 convergence of the structure?

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] regarding converge of system

2012-11-01 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Dear Christopher,

Firstly thanks for your reply. RMSD is a measure related with whether or
not converge of particles in the structures versus the starting structure.
In other word, it is the difference (average distance) between the
positions of particles in two structures. Conformational changes is not
only on the change of the position of atoms/particles in the structure but
also depend on other parameters (dihedral angle, formation of a hydrogen
bond, tilt/rotation of a protein/peptide in a lipid bilayer, solvation
patterns, ligand binding, system volume, etc).

Am I wrong?

RMSD matrix is also used to control the convergence of the structure. What
is the main difference between RMSD and RMSD matrix?

Thanks in advance



2012/11/1 Christopher Neale chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca

 RMSD of what? Probably you mean RMSD from the starting (or crystal)
 structure. First, consider that your profile
 of RMSD vs. crystal structure levels off at 0.4 nm with increasing
 simulation time. Consider how many possible
 conformations are 0.4 nm RMSD away from the crystal structure. A stable
 RMSD does not necessarily indicate
 that you have obtained Boltzmann sampling of a particular conformational
 basin. Very generally, it is the
 degeneracy of RMSD with respect to conformational space that makes RMSD an
 insufficient indicator of
 convergence. There are other ways to look at this though. For instance,
 there might be an important degree of
 freedom that is important for your system but does not greatly affect the
 global conformation (and thus the
 RMSD). This might be a dihedral angle, formation of a hydrogen bond,
 tilt/rotation of a protein/peptide in a
 lipid bilayer, solvation patterns, ligand binding, system volume, etc.

 Also, and I presume that this is not what Tsjerk meant (but you should
 check whatever reference you are referring
 to) it is always possible that you remain stuck within a conformational
 basin that is locally favourable but globally
 unfavourable.

 For other measures of convergence, first think about what you are trying
 to study for your system and use that
 to guide your selection of properties for which you can evaluate
 convergence. This should include both global
 and local structural measures. There are loads of papers available that
 discuss this. See papers by Grossfield,
 Zuckerman, and others. A colleague of mine has also shown that some
 properties converge faster than others
 (meaning that some properties, like the RMSD, converge before the
 partition function has converged:
 http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct900302n ).

 Chris.

 -- original message --

 I have two questions:

 1-We can say The RMSD is commonly used as an indicator of convergence
 of the structure towards an equilibrium state (Tsjerk W.). RMSD is
 not sufficient to determine whether or not converge of
 structure/system. Why?

 2-Radius of gyration, RMSD, rmsd matrix are used as an indicator of
 convergence of the structure. are there other indicators of
 convergence of the structure?

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] T - Annealing at NP - cell expands

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 4:36 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

I have system with protein in water. I equlibrated it in at 300 K and
1 bar for 5 ns with position restrained of protein heavy atoms. I run
script at NP and increasing temperature from 300K to 600 K with
changing temperature of 1 Kelvin every 1000 steps. Then temperaure is
set to be 600 K for another 4 ns to cool it down after to 300K within
2 ns.

System fails when the temperature reached 600K - my box is being
expanded during the temperature increase TWICE! This is why it fails
and my job terminates.
Would you suggest something?



A complete .mdp file would be useful here (just in case), although the observed 
behavior doesn't sound too unusual to me.  Under constant pressure, when you 
heat a liquid, what happens?  600K is well above the boiling point of water, so 
it sounds to me like your unit cell is simply responding to what you're doing. 
Perhaps you should be using NVT, but I don't know what your purpose for this 
procedure is.


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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Marshall
I've created a position restraint file for the specific waters that I need
to immobilize, but I'm having a hard time getting grompp to apply it
successfully. No matter where I put #include posre.itp in my topology
file grompp returns fatal errors about the atomic indices being out of
bounds. Is it actually possible to only apply position restraints to some
molecules within a species and leave the rest alone?

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 10/31/12 3:55 PM, Alex Marshall wrote:

 Chris, is that for freeze groups or position restraints?


 I will assume Chris was referring to the restraint method - you need an
 index file for creating the position restraint .itp file using genrestr.
  It will save you a ton of time over doing it manually.

 -Justin


  On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Neale 
 chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca wrote:

  No need to rename... just make an .ndx group.

 -- original message --

 As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the
 topology
 file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to
 restrain
 some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
 model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms
 I
 want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
 file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that
 you
 might do it?

 Thanks

 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alex Marshall amarsh59 at uwo.ca
 wrote:

  Justin: I'll try using position restraints instead of freezing the water
 in the tube. Thanks for the tip.

 Bogdan: I don't think I'm using constraints other than freeze groups. I
 wasn't using energy group exclusions though. I tried running the

 simulation

 from the same initial configuration with newly-defined energy groups
 CNT_GRA_WAL_IN and OUT, the first for the frozen atoms and the second
 for
 the free atoms. The list of exclusions reads:
 energygrp_excl   = CNT_GRA_WAL_IN CNT_GRA_WAL_IN

 Long story short, I'm roughly 15 ns into the simulation and the same two
 waters have jumped. I'll check the manual again though. Thanks.

 On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Bogdan Costescu bcostescu at

 gmail.comwrote:


  On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Marshall amarsh59 at uwo.ca

 wrote:

 Thanks Justin. I identified the offending waters using vmd (adding 1

 to

 resID and atom number since vmd starts counting at 0) and checked
 confout.gro to make sure the coordinates matched up. I only have one

 group

 for all frozen atoms in the system, and these guys are definitely in

 it.


 Are you using some kind of constraints ? Are you using energy group
 exclusions to avoid interactions between frozen atoms ? If you search
 the manual for frozen you'll find some warnings and recommendations.

 Cheers,
 Bogdan
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Re: [gmx-users] T - Annealing at NP - cell expands

2012-11-01 Thread Steven Neumann
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/1/12 4:36 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 I have system with protein in water. I equlibrated it in at 300 K and
 1 bar for 5 ns with position restrained of protein heavy atoms. I run
 script at NP and increasing temperature from 300K to 600 K with
 changing temperature of 1 Kelvin every 1000 steps. Then temperaure is
 set to be 600 K for another 4 ns to cool it down after to 300K within
 2 ns.

 System fails when the temperature reached 600K - my box is being
 expanded during the temperature increase TWICE! This is why it fails
 and my job terminates.
 Would you suggest something?


 A complete .mdp file would be useful here (just in case), although the
 observed behavior doesn't sound too unusual to me.  Under constant pressure,
 when you heat a liquid, what happens?  600K is well above the boiling point
 of water, so it sounds to me like your unit cell is simply responding to
 what you're doing. Perhaps you should be using NVT, but I don't know what
 your purpose for this procedure is.

 -Justin

Thanks for your reply. I am trying to get parametrs for coarse grained
model so I want to repeat this procedure until covergence. Do you
think NVT could be used for this purpose?

Steven



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Re: [gmx-users] I have a problem with my biphasic system

2012-11-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/1/12 5:49 PM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All usres


I have a system that contains water , methane and propane in 240 k and 300
bar,

My simulation box is rectangular .

Water film is in middle of my box. Methane and propane is around it.

I have a problem, my methane and propane molecules do not diffuse in water
film(even my methane molecules),

I do simulation, 30 nano second

methane molecules = 834
propane molecules = 92
water molecules = 1656

These links is related to md.mdp and .mdp for energy minimization

http://trainbit.com/files/1132999884/md.mdp
http://trainbit.com/files/2132999884/minim.mdp




The permissions on your files are set such that no one else can view them.

Why would you expect your alkanes to dissolve in water?  The solubility of 
methane is very small (roughly 0.02 g/kg of water at 25 C, or about 0.0014 M). 
Given this information, in your very small system, basically no methane 
molecules would ever partition into the water layer.  I didn't do the 
back-of-the-envelope calculations for propane, but you get the idea.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] About BoxVector and APL

2012-11-01 Thread vidhya sankar

As uou Told me in the Previous Mail I have Given My sereis of Commands With 
Real file Names  

./pdb2gmx_d  -f 2KDQ.pdb -o 2KDQ.gro -ignh -ter -water spc
 ./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
 ./editconf_d -f dppc128.pdb -o dppc128n.gro -center 3 3 3  -box 6 6 6
 ./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c dppc128n.gro -p topol_dppc.top  -o emdppc.tpr 
-maxwarn 1
 ./trjconv_d -s emdppc.tpr -f dppc128n.gro  -o dppc128_whole.gro  -pbc  mol -ur 
compact
 ./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
 cat 2KDQ_newbox.gro dppc128_whole.gro  system.gro
 ./genrestr_d  -f 2KDQ_newbox.gro -o strong_posre.itp -fc 10 10 10
 perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 DPPC 18 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat
 ./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 2KDQDPPCem.tpr
 ./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem
 perl inflategro.pl 2KDQDPPCem.gro 0.95  DPPC 0 system_inflated1.gro 5 area1.dat
 ./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated1.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 
2KDQDPPCem1.tpr
 ./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem1
perl inflategro.pl 2KDQDPPCem1.gro 0.95  DPPC 0 system_inflated2.gro 5 area2.dat
 ./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated2.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 
2KDQDPPCem2.tpr
./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem2

perl inflategro.pl 2KDQDPPCem2.gro 0.95  DPPC 0 system_inflated3.gro 5 area3.dat
output for  My satisfactorily shrunken system  as follows
Reading.
 Scaling lipids
 There are 127 lipids...
 with 50 atoms per lipid..
 Determining upper and lower leaflet...
 64 lipids in the upper...
 63 lipids in the lower leaflet
 Centering protein
 Writing scaled bilayer  centered protein...
 Calculating Area per lipid...
 Protein X-min/max: 98    119
 Protein Y-min/max: 99    117
 X-range: 21 A    Y-range: 18 A
 Building 21 X 18 2D grid on protein coordinates...
 Calculating area occupied by protein..
 full TMD..
 upper TMD
 lower TMD
 Area per protein: 3.75 nm^2
 Area per lipid: 6.60886502362205 nm^2
 Area per protein, upper half: 2.75 nm^2
 Area per lipid, upper leaflet : 6.572858265625 nm^2
 Area per protein, lower half: 3 nm^2
 Area per lipid, lower leaflet : 6.67322109523809 nm^2
 Writing Area per lipid.

 ./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated3.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 
2KDQDPPCem3.tpr
./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem3

In  the final Energy minimization  (2KDQDPPCem3.gro file) of the satisfactorily 
shrunken
system  The Box vectors  Has been Increased form 6 6  6 6 to
  20.57700  20.57700   6.0

 As you're suspecting I may be  confusing your files. In the beginning I am 
giving Series of Commands with Real files Name 
  Could you Please Suggests  Where i Have Confused in File Names ? Kindly Give 
me your Valuable Suggestion


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[gmx-users] about tc_grps in mdp file...

2012-11-01 Thread rama david
Dear all,
 I am running a system with sol 40646 atom and ion, NA 629 CL 634.
At the time of nvt and npt should i have to make different *tc_grps* for
ion and sol or should be make one group
Nonprotein ( these include sol + ion)..these is default.

With Best wishes and regards,
Rama david
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