[gmx-users] MD stop,systme not equilibrium

2013-04-02 Thread aixintiankong
Dear, 
when i make MD of my system, i set the MD stop ater 3ns. however, when the 
gromacs stop , i find that the system of protein and ligand is not equilibrium, 
i want to continue the process to 5ns. but i don't konw how to do this.please 
help me.
 thank you very much!
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: clustering based on side-chain conformations

2013-04-02 Thread anu chandra
Dear Justin,

Thanks for your immediate reply.

Is it possible to do clustering based on side-chain RMSF in gromacs?

What about dihedral angle order parameters in gromacs?. Does it provide any
information about what I want to know?

Thanking you once again

regards
Anu


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:52 AM, anu chandra anu80...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear amber users,
 
  I am working with protein-ligand interaction. The protein shows high
 degree
  of side-chain conformational changes and minimal backbone conformational
  changes during ligand binding. In order to capture these side chain
  flexibility, as a initial step,  I would like to do clustering based on
 the
  side-chain flexibility (i.e. categorise different areas in protein based
 on
  the degree of side chain flexibility). Is there a way to do such a
  calculation in Gromacs?. Can any one suggested me a way to proceed with
  this sort of analysis?
 
 
 g_cluster does RMSD-based clustering. That's not flexibility per se, but
 might be informative. If you do fitting based on side chains (which might
 be difficult, since side chains flop around a lot), that's about as close
 to achieving what you're after as I can think of using standard Gromacs
 programs.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs 4.6.1 on win7?

2013-04-02 Thread Mark Abraham
IIRC, the default Cygwin gcc is too old to compile GROMACS, as discussed on
this list in the last few months some time. I don't know how easy it is to
get a new one via the Cygwin package system.

Mark

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:58 AM, 라지브간디 ra...@kaist.ac.kr wrote:

  Dear gmx,
 
 
  I tried to install 4.6.1 version through cygwin and got following error
 by
  using this command :
 
 
  CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:811 (message):
Cannot find immintrin.h, which is required for AVX intrinsics support.
Consider switching compiler.
 
 
 
  When I use SSE4.1 i got this error :
  CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:750 (message):  Cannot find smmintrin.h,
  which is required for SSE4.1 intrinsics support.
 
  Please need an guidance to install it. Thanks.
 

 What compiler (and version) are you using?  Apparently whatever is
 installed does not support the features that Gromacs thinks you should have
 available.

 -Justin

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Fw: Aw: Re: [gmx-users] Re: density profile

2013-04-02 Thread lloyd riggs


Sorry, meant to post this on the bb.




Gesendet:Dienstag, 02. April 2013 um 11:50 Uhr
Von:lloyd riggs lloyd.ri...@gmx.ch
An:vvcha...@gmail.com
Betreff:Aw: Re: [gmx-users] Re: density profile





How would you set up a gas/gas interface, say modeled after a large gas planet or upper atmosphere, without effects from garvity and pressures in the 10K plus ATM? In such a system the gases behave almost like liquids, but most effects are from extreems of conditions. Actaul interfaces though I assume would include large amounts of mixing right at the atomic level interface, but I have no clue how far this would extend. If you remove rotational effects, I am willing to bet you can model a gas/gas interface at the atomic level with extreem conditions, which might be an aset in some fileds/areas of research. Minus gravitational effects though, I do not know if they could work properly. You can however set up a ligid gas interface by introducing box systems with differences in force at a plain across the midpoint equal to gas/liquid interfaces, or gradients of force, etc...but in all cases I assume a minimal amount of programming might be necessary. Opinions/answers anyone?



Stephan Watkins




Gesendet:Montag, 01. April 2013 um 20:43 Uhr
Von:Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com
An:Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.com, gmx-users@gromacs.org
Betreff:Re: [gmx-users] Re: density profile

There is a wonderful data page devoted to methane in wikipedia...

It follows from this webpage that you will get a perfect density profile if
you decrease your T down to 150K...


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are right. I compressed my alkane system under NPT at 400 K at 100
 bar. The normal boiling point is below 425 K. So it seems there in no way
 one can obtain profiles obove boiling point of liquid given than with the
 current NVT recipe molecules tend to fill up the free zone no matter how
 much pressure was applied in the previous NPT runs?



 You cannot get a profile just because you have NO LIQUID and NO INTERFACE
 upon these conditions. Gas fills all the available space, there is no such
 thing as gas/gas interface.

 And yeah... Forget about NPT and learn the Gibbs phase rule.


 Dr. Vitaly Chaban







 On 1 April 2013 14:22, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vitaly,

 The problem was with cpt file since it re sets the last line of gro. I
 removed the -f flag and now the Z direction is extended. However, I see
 that molecules tend to fill up the upper zone (free space) rapidly. I am
 wondering how I can obtain the density profile if I am going to get another
 uniformly distributed box after this NVT run?



 Here we come to the question what your system is composed of... Based on
 the density profile, this is not a (conventional) liquid... Polymer,
 non-Newtonian liquid ... or what?

 If molecules tend to fill vacuum, it can only mean that the matter you
 are simulating is above critical point.

 What is your T and what are the particles in your box?


 Dr. Vitaly Chaban





 I am expecting to see how density changes with Z at the solvent -vacuum
 interface

 Please advise me on this,,

 Thanks!


 On 1 April 2013 13:14, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think if you use checkpoint files, the program does not read either
 MDP, or GRO, or TOP, or anything except CPT.


 Dr. Vitaly Chaban




 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi vitaly,

 The initial structure is indeed extended but the final output.gro is
 not. I think its because I am using the cpt file from the previous NPT runs
 as input for the new runs? Do I have to remove the -t flag?


 On 1 April 2013 12:47, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Elisabeth -

 The only explanation is that you actually DID NOT extend the box in
 Z direction. Look at the last line of confout.gro.

 g_density -d Z gives you a [local] density versus Z coordinate.


 Dr. Vitaly Chaban




 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Vitaly,

 I did NVT simulations and tried to obtain density profile at
 interface along Z using g_density -f .trr -s .tpr -d Z but I what I see is
 the density profile in the box not the interface. Box size is 3 nm and
 Before NVT runsI extended Z to 6 nm. Please see the attached profile.
 Thanks!









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[gmx-users] Maximum force on atom and unpacked lipids

2013-04-02 Thread sdshine
Dear Users,

I have inserted protein and carbohydrate in DPPC membrane according to the
KALP
tutorials. After inserting both molecules, I checked by using VMD, the atoms
around my protein and ligand were overlapped. But I applied position
restraints to protein and ligand and  run 
Inflategro scripts for shrinking and packing.

Perl inflategro result

There are 3 lipids within cut-off range...
1 will be removed from the upper leaflet...
2 will be removed from the lower leaflet...
Writing scaled bilayer  centered protein...

Calculating Area per lipid...
Protein X-min/max: 1147
Protein Y-min/max: 1945
X-range: 36 AY-range: 26 A
Building 36 X 26 2D grid on protein coordinates...
Calculating area occupied by protein..
full TMD..
upper TMD
lower TMD
Area per protein: 7.5 nm^2
Area per lipid: 10.4673818624 nm^2

Area per protein, upper half: 5.5 nm^2
Area per lipid, upper leaflet : 10.4160534349206 nm^2

Area per protein, lower half: 4.25 nm^2
Area per lipid, lower leaflet : 10.6042155870968 nm^2

Writing Area per lipid...
Done!
___

1st EM result
_
---
---
Step=  576, Dmax= 8.0e-03 nm, Epot= -9.29249e+04 Fmax= 5.95606e+03, atom=
504
Step=  578, Dmax= 4.8e-03 nm, Epot= -9.29638e+04 Fmax= 8.42117e+02, atom=
504

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to Fmax  1000 in 579 steps
Potential Energy  = -9.2963797e+04
Maximum force =  8.4211664e+02 on atom 504
Norm of force =  4.9797871e+01

Then in EM step, showing Maximum force on certain atom.
I performed shrinking step until it converged. But every EM I have Max Force
on selected atom.
The final complex still have unpacked lipids.
How to correct this or whether will be corrected during Equilibration steps.
I think the problem lies in the Ist EM step itself. 
Kindly give some suggestions

Thanks in advance



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[gmx-users] Position restraints

2013-04-02 Thread alex rayevsky
Dear All!
I have a doubt about the rightness of ligand/molecule integration in the
topology file. I'm using an amber (tleap) or swissparam.ch to build a
topology of the residue (modified trna). Is it neccessary to generate a
position restrain file (genrestr program) for this residue or not? I've
started both dynamics with/without posrestraints on my residue, however I'm
really not sure that my results from both of them are different. But I want
to do everything in right way, so what can you say about this?

Thank you

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Re: [gmx-users] MD stop,systme not equilibrium

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 3:24 AM, aixintiankong wrote:

Dear,
when i make MD of my system, i set the MD stop ater 3ns. however, when the 
gromacs stop , i find that the system of protein and ligand is not equilibrium, 
i want to continue the process to 5ns. but i don't konw how to do this.please 
help me.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Extending_Simulations

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: clustering based on side-chain conformations

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 4:58 AM, anu chandra wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thanks for your immediate reply.

Is it possible to do clustering based on side-chain RMSF in gromacs?



Not that I'm aware of.


What about dihedral angle order parameters in gromacs?. Does it provide any
information about what I want to know?



You can probably get some useful information, but I don't know how to calculate 
such quantities in Gromacs, and any clustering you would do would have to be 
external to Gromacs.


-Justin


Thanking you once again

regards
Anu


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:52 AM, anu chandra anu80...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear amber users,

I am working with protein-ligand interaction. The protein shows high

degree

of side-chain conformational changes and minimal backbone conformational
changes during ligand binding. In order to capture these side chain
flexibility, as a initial step,  I would like to do clustering based on

the

side-chain flexibility (i.e. categorise different areas in protein based

on

the degree of side chain flexibility). Is there a way to do such a
calculation in Gromacs?. Can any one suggested me a way to proceed with
this sort of analysis?



g_cluster does RMSD-based clustering. That's not flexibility per se, but
might be informative. If you do fitting based on side chains (which might
be difficult, since side chains flop around a lot), that's about as close
to achieving what you're after as I can think of using standard Gromacs
programs.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Maximum force on atom and unpacked lipids

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 5:56 AM, sdshine wrote:

Dear Users,

I have inserted protein and carbohydrate in DPPC membrane according to the
KALP
tutorials. After inserting both molecules, I checked by using VMD, the atoms
around my protein and ligand were overlapped. But I applied position
restraints to protein and ligand and  run
Inflategro scripts for shrinking and packing.

Perl inflategro result

There are 3 lipids within cut-off range...
1 will be removed from the upper leaflet...
2 will be removed from the lower leaflet...
Writing scaled bilayer  centered protein...

Calculating Area per lipid...
Protein X-min/max: 1147
Protein Y-min/max: 1945
X-range: 36 AY-range: 26 A
Building 36 X 26 2D grid on protein coordinates...
Calculating area occupied by protein..
full TMD..
upper TMD
lower TMD
Area per protein: 7.5 nm^2
Area per lipid: 10.4673818624 nm^2

Area per protein, upper half: 5.5 nm^2
Area per lipid, upper leaflet : 10.4160534349206 nm^2

Area per protein, lower half: 4.25 nm^2
Area per lipid, lower leaflet : 10.6042155870968 nm^2

Writing Area per lipid...
Done!
___

1st EM result
_
---
---
Step=  576, Dmax= 8.0e-03 nm, Epot= -9.29249e+04 Fmax= 5.95606e+03, atom=
504
Step=  578, Dmax= 4.8e-03 nm, Epot= -9.29638e+04 Fmax= 8.42117e+02, atom=
504

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to Fmax  1000 in 579 steps
Potential Energy  = -9.2963797e+04
Maximum force =  8.4211664e+02 on atom 504
Norm of force =  4.9797871e+01

Then in EM step, showing Maximum force on certain atom.
I performed shrinking step until it converged. But every EM I have Max Force
on selected atom.


There will always be some atom with a maximum force; that's how EM works.  As 
long as that maximum force is below an acceptable tolerance, there is no problem.



The final complex still have unpacked lipids.


This statement doesn't make much sense to me.  Either InflateGRO worked, or it 
didn't.  There shouldn't be any halfway.



How to correct this or whether will be corrected during Equilibration steps.
I think the problem lies in the Ist EM step itself.
Kindly give some suggestions



I don't see evidence of a problem, and certainly not within the first EM step.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Position restraints

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 6:07 AM, alex rayevsky wrote:

Dear All!
I have a doubt about the rightness of ligand/molecule integration in the
topology file. I'm using an amber (tleap) or swissparam.ch to build a
topology of the residue (modified trna). Is it neccessary to generate a
position restrain file (genrestr program) for this residue or not? I've
started both dynamics with/without posrestraints on my residue, however I'm
really not sure that my results from both of them are different. But I want
to do everything in right way, so what can you say about this?



Restraints during equilibration are used to prevent unnatural forces from the 
unequilibrated solvent and help prevent deformation of the structure.  It's 
never a bad idea to restrain the whole solute.  If I were reading a paper that 
described restraining the whole solute, except for one residue because it was 
special or difficult to deal with, I would immediately be suspicious.


-Justin

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Good News for Cygwin users (was: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs 4.6.1 on win7?)

2013-04-02 Thread Mirco Wahab

On 01.04.2013 14:58, 라지브간디 wrote:

I tried to install 4.6.1 version through cygwin and got following error by 
using this command :


In the last weeks of March 2013, there has been significant
progress made on the cygwin packages. Since April, 1st, there
is even a 64-bit build including gcc 4.8 (!) available.
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/64bit/
(other mirrors: http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html)

On the usual 32-bit build, the gcc 4.7.2, which compiles
gromacs fine, is available since mid-March. You can choose
from gcc 4.3.x, 4.5.x, and 4.7.2 under gcc-4.

If I get some time left, I'll test the 64-bit gcc-4.8
system and report back.

Regards

M.

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[gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread rama david
Dear friends,
  I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics ( REMD).
I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
It was a really helpful to start.

 My system consist of peptide + water.

I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
my mistakes...

1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps  )
5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration  steps )
7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..

To determine the temp I used web-server  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/

Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
my work flow.

I will be very grateful to you for your help and suggestion.

With Best Regards,
Rama David
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:

Dear friends,
   I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics ( REMD).
I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
It was a really helpful to start.

  My system consist of peptide + water.

I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
my mistakes...

1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps  )
5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration  steps )
7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..

To determine the temp I used web-server  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/

Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
my work flow.



Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using REMD. 
Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For 
near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much higher 
temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread Erik Marklund

On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:30, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
 On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:
 Dear friends,
   I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics ( REMD).
 I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
 I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
 It was a really helpful to start.
 
  My system consist of peptide + water.
 
 I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
 my mistakes...
 
 1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
 2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
 3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
 4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps  )
 5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
 6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration  steps )
 7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..
 
 To determine the temp I used web-server  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
 
 Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
 my work flow.
 
 
 Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using REMD. 
 Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For 
 near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much higher 
 temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.
 
 -Justin

Sure, the enhanced sampling is basically gone, but you can deduce temperature 
dependences from such simulations and to some extent benefit from the mixing, 
can't you?

Erik

 
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 Department of Biochemistry
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 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.

Thank you
Regards
Kavya


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear users,

 For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
 am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.

 In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
 indices consisting of
 group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
 group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:

 I use the command:
 g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
 matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5

 Is this approach correct?

 Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread massimo sandal
I would look on some paper which temperature ranges and conditions
(NPT/NVT) were used for systems of a similar size and with a similar aim.


2013/4/2 rama david ramadavidgr...@gmail.com

 Dear friends ,
 Thank you justin and Mark for your suggestion

 I increases my temp range from 310-360 K
 Now I get 20 replicas .

 Is in such large temp range wlll it be good to use NPT.

 Would you tell me the temp differences in which box instability generally
 arises ..



 Is my working-flow right or need to change much


 Thank you
 With Best Regards..




 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:

 
  On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:30, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
  
  
   On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:
   Dear friends,
 I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics (
 REMD).
   I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
   I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
   It was a really helpful to start.
  
My system consist of peptide + water.
  
   I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
   my mistakes...
  
   1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
   2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
   3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
   4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps
  )
   5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
   6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration
  steps )
   7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..
  
   To determine the temp I used web-server
 http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
  
   Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
   my work flow.
  
  
   Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using REMD.
  Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For
  near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much
 higher
  temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.
  
   -Justin
 
  Sure, the enhanced sampling is basically gone, but you can deduce
  temperature dependences from such simulations and to some extent benefit
  from the mixing, can't you?
 
  Erik
 
  
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   Department of Biochemistry
   Virginia Tech
   Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread rama david
Thank you Massimo sandal, Justin and mark ,

I also goes through the article and GMX archive.
But I confuse with the protocol ( I am naive in REMD .
So I want to conform protocol from the Expert and experience person )

I will be grateful to you  for your suggestion.





On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would look on some paper which temperature ranges and conditions
 (NPT/NVT) were used for systems of a similar size and with a similar aim.


 2013/4/2 rama david ramadavidgr...@gmail.com

  Dear friends ,
  Thank you justin and Mark for your suggestion
 
  I increases my temp range from 310-360 K
  Now I get 20 replicas .
 
  Is in such large temp range wlll it be good to use NPT.
 
  Would you tell me the temp differences in which box instability generally
  arises ..
 
 
 
  Is my working-flow right or need to change much
 
 
  Thank you
  With Best Regards..
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
  wrote:
 
  
   On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:30, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
  
   
   
On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:
Dear friends,
  I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics (
  REMD).
I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
It was a really helpful to start.
   
 My system consist of peptide + water.
   
I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
my mistakes...
   
1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration
 steps
   )
5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration
   steps )
7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..
   
To determine the temp I used web-server
  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
   
Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement
 in
my work flow.
   
   
Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using
 REMD.
   Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For
   near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much
  higher
   temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.
   
-Justin
  
   Sure, the enhanced sampling is basically gone, but you can deduce
   temperature dependences from such simulations and to some extent
 benefit
   from the mixing, can't you?
  
   Erik
  
   
--

   
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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
   

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[gmx-users] install gromacs 4.5.5 on cluster

2013-04-02 Thread song.yongshun
 hello gromacs users,
I was trying to install gromacs 4.5.5 on the cluster.
the cluster info:
uname -a
Linux mgr.itp 2.6.9-55.0.2.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 26 14:14:47 EDT 2007 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
I have successfully installed fftw3 and gsl on it.
then I try to install the Gromacs 4.5.5 with the following commad:
export CPPFLAGS=-I$HOME/Software/gsl-1.13/include/gsl 
-I$HOME/Software/fftw-3.2.2/include -I/opt/vltmpi/OPENIB/mpi.icc.rsh/include
export LDFLAGS=-L$HOME/Software/gsl-1.13/lib -L$HOME/Software/fftw-3.2.2/lib 
-L/opt/vltmpi/OPENIB/mpi.icc.rsh/lib
./configure --prefix=$HOME/Software --enable-mpi --with-fft=fftw3 --with-gsl 
--enable-double --program-suffix=_mpi

no problem until here.
then:
make
error came up like this:
/usr/include/md5.h(27): error: identifier UINT4 is undefined
UINT4 state[4];   /* state (ABCD) */
^

/usr/include/md5.h(28): error: identifier UINT4 is undefined
UINT4 count[2];/* number of bits, modulo 2^64 (lsb first) */
^
.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
By the I have tried install on my personal computer with the same command,it's 
succeed.


Richor
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread bipin singh
You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate distances,
if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
bridge interactions.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear users,

 Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.

 Thank you
 Regards
 Kavya


 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear users,

 For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
 am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.

 In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
 indices consisting of
 group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
 group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:

 I use the command:
 g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
 matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5

 Is this approach correct?

 Thank you
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[gmx-users] 4.6.1 support double precision GPU now?

2013-04-02 Thread Albert

Hello:

 I am wondering is double precision supported in current 4.6.1 GPU 
version? Otherwise it would be very slow to use CPU version running free 
energy calculations


thank you very much
best
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Re: [gmx-users] 4.6.1 support double precision GPU now?

2013-04-02 Thread Carsten Kutzner

On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello:
 
 I am wondering is double precision supported in current 4.6.1 GPU version? 
 Otherwise it would be very slow to use CPU version running free energy 
 calculations….
Hi Albert,

no, GPU calculations can be done only in single precision.

Best,
  Carsten


 
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 best
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[gmx-users] g_density: Segmentation fault

2013-04-02 Thread Elisabeth
Dear all,

I am trying to get the density profile for my liquid-vacuum interface using
g_density -f trr -s tpr however g_density gives Segmentation fault. Does
anyone had clue what could be wrong? Please comment, Thanks.

Group 0 ( System) has  XXX elements
Group 1 (  Other) has  XXX elements

Select a group: 0
Selected 0: 'System'
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Last frame 10 time 1.000
Segmentation fault
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Kavyashree M
Sir,

Thank you very much for your reply. I wanted to calculate
Salt bridge in the whole protein so i am not mentioning the
residues involved. The problem with g_saltbr was that if I
have to calculate the accessibility of these atoms it will be
a problem because it gives the charge groups but not exact
atoms.

This is the reason I thought of using g_hbond. But I wanted
clarification from experts in using this method.

So Is there any problem if I use g_hbond?

Thank you
kavya



On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate distances,
 if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
 bridge interactions.

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear users,
 
  Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.
 
  Thank you
  Regards
  Kavya
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear users,
 
  For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
  am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.
 
  In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
  indices consisting of
  group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
  group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:
 
  I use the command:
  g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
  matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5
 
  Is this approach correct?
 
  Thank you
  Kavya
 
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 7:38 AM, Erik Marklund wrote:


On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:30, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:

Dear friends,
   I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics ( REMD).
I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
It was a really helpful to start.

  My system consist of peptide + water.

I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
my mistakes...

1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps  )
5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration  steps )
7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..

To determine the temp I used web-server  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/

Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
my work flow.



Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using REMD. 
Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For 
near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much higher 
temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.

-Justin


Sure, the enhanced sampling is basically gone, but you can deduce temperature 
dependences from such simulations and to some extent benefit from the mixing, 
can't you?



I suppose, but then why bother with the exchange overhead?  Seems to me that if 
you're only interested in temperature-dependent quantities, you can do that with 
independent simulations at different temperatures.


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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 9:24 AM, rama david wrote:

Thank you Massimo sandal, Justin and mark ,

I also goes through the article and GMX archive.
But I confuse with the protocol ( I am naive in REMD .
So I want to conform protocol from the Expert and experience person )

I will be grateful to you  for your suggestion.




The best training experience would be to take a simple example from the 
literature and reproduce it.  It is very hard to try to teach someone completely 
via email, especially since we do not know the scope and goals of what you are 
doing.


With respect to the question about pressure coupling stability over 310 - 360 K, 
I don't know offhand what to expect, but in general, I think this is a standard 
limitation within REMD and you'll probably encounter it.  Again, find a protocol 
for a similar system and try to get things working.  It will be easier to help 
you if you have a known objective that has been demonstrated to work.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 11:58 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Sir,

Thank you very much for your reply. I wanted to calculate
Salt bridge in the whole protein so i am not mentioning the
residues involved. The problem with g_saltbr was that if I
have to calculate the accessibility of these atoms it will be
a problem because it gives the charge groups but not exact
atoms.

This is the reason I thought of using g_hbond. But I wanted
clarification from experts in using this method.

So Is there any problem if I use g_hbond?



Does this really give you any useful information?  You'll get an output file 
with putative contacts derived from an arbitrary cutoff for any possible 
positive-negative pair defined in the index group.  I think the g_dist approach 
is far more useful and gives you exact insight into specific pairs.  It takes a 
bit more prep work, but looping the calculations is trivial to do to make them 
efficient.


-Justin


Thank you
kavya



On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote:


You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate distances,
if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
bridge interactions.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear users,

Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.

Thank you
Regards
Kavya


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear users,

For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.

In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
indices consisting of
group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:

I use the command:
g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5

Is this approach correct?

Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] g_density: Segmentation fault

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 11:57 AM, Elisabeth wrote:

Dear all,

I am trying to get the density profile for my liquid-vacuum interface using
g_density -f trr -s tpr however g_density gives Segmentation fault. Does
anyone had clue what could be wrong? Please comment, Thanks.

Group 0 ( System) has  XXX elements
Group 1 (  Other) has  XXX elements

Select a group: 0
Selected 0: 'System'
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Last frame 10 time 1.000
Segmentation fault



Segmentation faults are generic memory errors.  Without a debugging backtrace, 
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[gmx-users] Re: Hamiltonian replica exchange umbrella sampling with gmx 4.6

2013-04-02 Thread Dejun Lin
Hi Michael,

Do the codes now support walking in multidimensional parameter space? i.e.,
a state is defined by a set of lambda parameters {l1,l2,l3,...,ln} and a MC
move is attempted along one of the parameter, which is randomly picked.

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Re: [gmx-users] g_density: Segmentation fault

2013-04-02 Thread Elisabeth
Hi Justin,

Do I have to read less frames to circumvent the problem? I know g_density
has been used for this purpose so there should be a way to resolve this. I
am reading 1000 frames...

Thanks


On 2 April 2013 12:40, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/2/13 11:57 AM, Elisabeth wrote:

 Dear all,

 I am trying to get the density profile for my liquid-vacuum interface
 using
 g_density -f trr -s tpr however g_density gives Segmentation fault. Does
 anyone had clue what could be wrong? Please comment, Thanks.

 Group 0 ( System) has  XXX elements
 Group 1 (  Other) has  XXX elements

 Select a group: 0
 Selected 0: 'System'
 trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
 Last frame 10 time 1.000
 Segmentation fault


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 backtrace, there's very little to suggest.

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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread rama david
Thank you justin.
I will do the same.



On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/2/13 9:24 AM, rama david wrote:

 Thank you Massimo sandal, Justin and mark ,

 I also goes through the article and GMX archive.
 But I confuse with the protocol ( I am naive in REMD .
 So I want to conform protocol from the Expert and experience person )

 I will be grateful to you  for your suggestion.



 The best training experience would be to take a simple example from the
 literature and reproduce it.  It is very hard to try to teach someone
 completely via email, especially since we do not know the scope and goals
 of what you are doing.

 With respect to the question about pressure coupling stability over 310 -
 360 K, I don't know offhand what to expect, but in general, I think this is
 a standard limitation within REMD and you'll probably encounter it.  Again,
 find a protocol for a similar system and try to get things working.  It
 will be easier to help you if you have a known objective that has been
 demonstrated to work.

 -Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Free webinar on Gromacs-4.6 and GPUs together with Nvidia

2013-04-02 Thread Erik Lindahl
Hi again!

Just a quick update - we've had lots of interest for the webinar this thursday 
(which is great!). 

We're pretty close to breaking their all-time record for webinars, and you 
still have two days to sign up, so hopefully we'll do it ;-)

I will try to answer as many Gromacs/GPU-related questions as we have time for 
during the event, but Nvidia has also promised to try and record all questions 
they get, and we'll try to answer the ones we don't have time for later in a 
GPU-FAQ on our website. So, this might be a good point to think about things 
you want to ask!

Cheers,

Erik

On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Erik Lindahl lind...@cbr.su.se wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On April 4 (9-10am, US pacific time), Nvidia is helping us organize a web 
 seminar about Gromacs-4.6 and all the new GPU capabilities. While I would 
 expect their representative to spend a couple of minutes talking about 
 hardware, they will invite interested users to free remote testdrives of 
 Gromacs running on their hardware, and I hope it goes without saying that I 
 will cover Gromacs-GPU from the scientific side, what it can do for your 
 simulations, how to use it most efficiently, and what hardware we are using 
 ourselves for it!
 
 However, there is one caveat - since this is run on the web with 
 possibilities to ask questions, etc., you will need to register here (feel 
 free to spread the link): https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/802328986
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Hamiltonian replica exchange umbrella sampling with gmx 4.6

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Shirts
Hi, Dejun-

Right now, the vector of lambda parameters is simply vdw, coul, bonded,
restraint, temperature.  You can't have, say, 2 different coul vectors or
two different restraint vectors for different restraints.  But you can
change any of these components.

You define the vector manually by writing out the list.  So to do 2D in vdw
and restraints, you would define states:

vdw-lambdas=  0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5 0.5 0.5 1.0 1.0 1.0
restraint-lambdas  =  0.0 0.5 1.0 0.0 0.5 1.0 0.0 0.5 1.0

Multidimensional movement in parameter space with replica exchange can be
done with the md setting '-nex Nswaps'.  This does multiple pair swaps,
instead of just neighbor pair swaps.  I'd suggest something like Nswaps =
N^3, where N is the number of lambda states.  This is a close approximation
to Gibbs sampling (http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa6/v135/i19/p194110_s1),
where _all_ permutations are selected based on their Boltzmann weight.
 It's an approximation because with a finite number of swaps, you don't
quite get uncorrelated moves in state space, but it is rigorously correct
thermodynamically.  It is more powerful than randomly selecting a dimension
to move in, since it allows moves in all dimensions simultaneously with
proper weight.

Note that the number of lambdas states is hardcoded as 1024, but that can
(I think) be edited as desired without causing direct problems (other than
perhaps needing to make the .mdp lines longer).

We are working on more general multistate lambda vector formalism for 5.0.
 If you have suggestions, let me know.

I'd be happy to look over input files or give additional advice on a
specific setup.


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 Hi Michael,

 Do the codes now support walking in multidimensional parameter space? i.e.,
 a state is defined by a set of lambda parameters {l1,l2,l3,...,ln} and a MC
 move is attempted along one of the parameter, which is randomly picked.

 Thanks,
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Kavyashree M
Sir,

This g_hbond will generate a matrix similar to
what g_saltbr would have given in terms of variation
of distance between two charge groups.

I want to find out the variation of all the salt bridges
in the protein over the trajectory, if I have to use g_dist
with an index of positive atoms and another of negative
atoms, then it will calculate the distance between the
centre of mass of these two groups.. according to manual.

So How can I use g_dist for this kind of calculation.
I am little confused.

If I take a cut of of 0.4nm (as we mention in g_saltbr), will
it be wrong if I have to calculate salt bridges between
these two indices -

group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2
group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2

Thank you
Kavya


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/2/13 11:58 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Sir,

 Thank you very much for your reply. I wanted to calculate
 Salt bridge in the whole protein so i am not mentioning the
 residues involved. The problem with g_saltbr was that if I
 have to calculate the accessibility of these atoms it will be
 a problem because it gives the charge groups but not exact
 atoms.

 This is the reason I thought of using g_hbond. But I wanted
 clarification from experts in using this method.

 So Is there any problem if I use g_hbond?


 Does this really give you any useful information?  You'll get an output
 file with putative contacts derived from an arbitrary cutoff for any
 possible positive-negative pair defined in the index group.  I think the
 g_dist approach is far more useful and gives you exact insight into
 specific pairs.  It takes a bit more prep work, but looping the
 calculations is trivial to do to make them efficient.

 -Justin


  Thank you
 kavya



 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote:

  You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate distances,
 if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
 bridge interactions.

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear users,

 Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.

 Thank you
 Regards
 Kavya


 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear users,

 For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
 am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.

 In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
 indices consisting of
 group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
 group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:

 I use the command:
 g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
 matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5

 Is this approach correct?

 Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] g_density: Segmentation fault

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Justin,

 Do I have to read less frames to circumvent the problem? I know g_density
 has been used for this purpose so there should be a way to resolve this. I
 am reading 1000 frames...


1000 frames shouldn't be a problem, but it's an easy test to do.

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs 4.6.1 on win7?

2013-04-02 Thread Roland Schulz
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:40 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 IIRC, the default Cygwin gcc is too old to compile GROMACS, as discussed on
 this list in the last few months some time. I don't know how easy it is to
 get a new one via the Cygwin package system.

Cygwin has the gcc package which is 3.4.4 and the gcc4 package which offers
gcc 4.7.2. Installing the gcc4 package and telling cmake to use gcc-4 as
compiler should fix it (not tested).

Roland



 Mark

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:58 AM, 라지브간디 ra...@kaist.ac.kr wrote:
 
   Dear gmx,
  
  
   I tried to install 4.6.1 version through cygwin and got following error
  by
   using this command :
  
  
   CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:811 (message):
 Cannot find immintrin.h, which is required for AVX intrinsics
 support.
 Consider switching compiler.
  
  
  
   When I use SSE4.1 i got this error :
   CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:750 (message):  Cannot find smmintrin.h,
   which is required for SSE4.1 intrinsics support.
  
   Please need an guidance to install it. Thanks.
  
 
  What compiler (and version) are you using?  Apparently whatever is
  installed does not support the features that Gromacs thinks you should
 have
  available.
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,

 This g_hbond will generate a matrix similar to
 what g_saltbr would have given in terms of variation
 of distance between two charge groups.


I suppose, in that sense, the output can be useful.


 I want to find out the variation of all the salt bridges
 in the protein over the trajectory, if I have to use g_dist
 with an index of positive atoms and another of negative
 atoms, then it will calculate the distance between the
 centre of mass of these two groups.. according to manual.


Yes, but that's not what I suggested you do.  You would need an index group
for each residue individually, not all negative atoms and all positive
atoms.  That would definitely be useless.  If you consider each residue
individually, you can get a very detailed look at what's going on.  What
you're doing now is saying a salt bridge exists if N and O atoms are
within 0.4 nm.  Is that an accurate descriptor?  Upon what precedent have
you based that assessment?  g_dist will also show you frames where those
atoms may not be within 0.4 nm, but what about the case of water-mediated
interactions; are those not interesting, as well?  What I think you should
be doing is approaching the problem from multiple perspectives to get a
real look at what's going on.

-Justin


 So How can I use g_dist for this kind of calculation.
 I am little confused.

 If I take a cut of of 0.4nm (as we mention in g_saltbr), will
 it be wrong if I have to calculate salt bridges between
 these two indices -

 group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2
 group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2

 Thank you
 Kavya


 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 4/2/13 11:58 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
 
  Sir,
 
  Thank you very much for your reply. I wanted to calculate
  Salt bridge in the whole protein so i am not mentioning the
  residues involved. The problem with g_saltbr was that if I
  have to calculate the accessibility of these atoms it will be
  a problem because it gives the charge groups but not exact
  atoms.
 
  This is the reason I thought of using g_hbond. But I wanted
  clarification from experts in using this method.
 
  So Is there any problem if I use g_hbond?
 
 
  Does this really give you any useful information?  You'll get an output
  file with putative contacts derived from an arbitrary cutoff for any
  possible positive-negative pair defined in the index group.  I think the
  g_dist approach is far more useful and gives you exact insight into
  specific pairs.  It takes a bit more prep work, but looping the
  calculations is trivial to do to make them efficient.
 
  -Justin
 
 
   Thank you
  kavya
 
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate distances,
  if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
  bridge interactions.
 
  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear users,
 
  Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.
 
  Thank you
  Regards
  Kavya
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Dear users,
 
  For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
  am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.
 
  In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
  indices consisting of
  group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
  group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:
 
  I use the command:
  g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
  matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5
 
  Is this approach correct?
 
  Thank you
  Kavya
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Salt bridge Calculations

2013-04-02 Thread Kavyashree M
Sir,

Thank you for the detailed insight. As you mentioned
It does not give much information. But the matrix that
it would generate would only show whether a specific
salt bridge (SB) exited at a given time within the cut-off (0.4).

I got your explanation. Yes water mediated SBs are also
interesting.

If I had a given set of known SB then I would have definitely
gone for g_dist.

Thank you very much.

Kavya


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sir,
 
  This g_hbond will generate a matrix similar to
  what g_saltbr would have given in terms of variation
  of distance between two charge groups.
 
 
 I suppose, in that sense, the output can be useful.


  I want to find out the variation of all the salt bridges
  in the protein over the trajectory, if I have to use g_dist
  with an index of positive atoms and another of negative
  atoms, then it will calculate the distance between the
  centre of mass of these two groups.. according to manual.
 
 
 Yes, but that's not what I suggested you do.  You would need an index group
 for each residue individually, not all negative atoms and all positive
 atoms.  That would definitely be useless.  If you consider each residue
 individually, you can get a very detailed look at what's going on.  What
 you're doing now is saying a salt bridge exists if N and O atoms are
 within 0.4 nm.  Is that an accurate descriptor?  Upon what precedent have
 you based that assessment?  g_dist will also show you frames where those
 atoms may not be within 0.4 nm, but what about the case of water-mediated
 interactions; are those not interesting, as well?  What I think you should
 be doing is approaching the problem from multiple perspectives to get a
 real look at what's going on.

 -Justin


  So How can I use g_dist for this kind of calculation.
  I am little confused.
 
  If I take a cut of of 0.4nm (as we mention in g_saltbr), will
  it be wrong if I have to calculate salt bridges between
  these two indices -
 
  group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2
  group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2
 
  Thank you
  Kavya
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
  
  
   On 4/2/13 11:58 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
  
   Sir,
  
   Thank you very much for your reply. I wanted to calculate
   Salt bridge in the whole protein so i am not mentioning the
   residues involved. The problem with g_saltbr was that if I
   have to calculate the accessibility of these atoms it will be
   a problem because it gives the charge groups but not exact
   atoms.
  
   This is the reason I thought of using g_hbond. But I wanted
   clarification from experts in using this method.
  
   So Is there any problem if I use g_hbond?
  
  
   Does this really give you any useful information?  You'll get an output
   file with putative contacts derived from an arbitrary cutoff for any
   possible positive-negative pair defined in the index group.  I think
 the
   g_dist approach is far more useful and gives you exact insight into
   specific pairs.  It takes a bit more prep work, but looping the
   calculations is trivial to do to make them efficient.
  
   -Justin
  
  
Thank you
   kavya
  
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
You can use g_dist with specific atoms indices to calculate
 distances,
   if you already have the information about atoms involved in salt
   bridge interactions.
  
   On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Dear users,
  
   Kindly clarify my doubt regarding salt bridge calculation.
  
   Thank you
   Regards
   Kavya
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Dear users,
  
   For calculating salt bridge in proteins I
   am using g_hbond instead of g_saltbr.
  
   In g_hbond I use contact and mention two
   indices consisting of
   group 1: ASP_GLU__OD1_OD2_OE1_OE2:
   group 2: ARG_LYS__NZ_NE_NH1_NH2:
  
   I use the command:
   g_hbond_46 -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -n index.ndx -contact -r 0.4 -hbm
   matrix-sb.xpm -hbn index-sb.ndx -num num-sb.xvg -b 4000 -e 5
  
   Is this approach correct?
  
   Thank you
   Kavya
  
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[gmx-users] Re: g_density: Segmentation fault

2013-04-02 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
 
  Do I have to read less frames to circumvent the problem? I know g_density
  has been used for this purpose so there should be a way to resolve this.
 I
  am reading 1000 frames...
 
 
 1000 frames shouldn't be a problem, but it's an easy test to do.



Sometimes this happens with gromacs analysis utilities if the trajectory is
not finished yet (mdrun runs in the same folder and appends the XTC or EDR
file) or if certain frame has not been correctly written down.

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[gmx-users] Re: Hamiltonian replica exchange umbrella sampling with gmx 4.6

2013-04-02 Thread Dejun Lin
Hi Micheal,

Just to make sure I understand you correctly -- I can have 1 type of
restraint, e.g., a harmonic potential between 2 groups defined by (k1, d1)
where k1 is force constant and d1 is the equilibrium position. But I can't
have 2 or more types of restraints like (k1,d1,k2,d2,...,kn,dn). Is that
correct? 

Also, about to paper you referred to. Is the algorithm described in section
IIIB-2 the one that's currently implemented in gromacs? If so, how do you
precompute the matrix U for all pairs without knowing x? I guess I just
don't have an idea about how the whole procedure is conducted. 

Thanks,
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[gmx-users] the value of pressure is negative

2013-04-02 Thread Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani
Hi all,

I had this problem.When i finished run the equilibration part which is
the NPT part,
and the time for this equilibration takes is about 500ps.
In here,i use the pressure 1 bar and the temperature is 300K,
But when i run the command g_energy to check the pressure of the system,
the value is negative but the others result is okay.

Then i just continue the equilibration.gro to proceed with my md production.
And the result for the pressure is 1.5 something and its almost 2 bar
for average.
Is it normal for that?

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Re: [gmx-users] the value of pressure is negative

2013-04-02 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/2/13 7:56 PM, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani wrote:

Hi all,

I had this problem.When i finished run the equilibration part which is
the NPT part,
and the time for this equilibration takes is about 500ps.
In here,i use the pressure 1 bar and the temperature is 300K,
But when i run the command g_energy to check the pressure of the system,
the value is negative but the others result is okay.

Then i just continue the equilibration.gro to proceed with my md production.
And the result for the pressure is 1.5 something and its almost 2 bar
for average.
Is it normal for that?



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

Consider whether 2 ± some hundreds (likely) is significantly different from the 
target value.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] g_hbond

2013-04-02 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time for my system.

Do program consider the hydrogen bond criteria for calculation of
autocorrelation function?

Nilesh



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RE: [gmx-users] Radial density calculation

2013-04-02 Thread Dallas Warren
Just calculate the radial distribution function from particle-to-particle.

You can then integrate that probability to get a mass density at a given 
radius, using the average overall system density.

Catch ya,

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Re: [gmx-users] Radial density calculation

2013-04-02 Thread Venkat Reddy
Thank you sir for the nice suggestion


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.eduwrote:

 Just calculate the radial distribution function from particle-to-particle.

 You can then integrate that probability to get a mass density at a given
 radius, using the average overall system density.

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