Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
from this command :-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
the average file or its graph tells ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


 Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...

 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell
 around
 residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
 Now

 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of

 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
need. Can you explain how can I do that ?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
 one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
 hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
 from this command :-

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

 Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
 correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
 g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
 bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
 the average file or its graph tells ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those
 of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


 Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...

 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
 gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell
 around
 residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
 Now

 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output
 of

 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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 ==

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks justin for your replies. I understood the g_analyze related data. I
tired g_analyze to dump the structures as you said. But, I didn't find any
switch that can be used to dump the structure in pdb format.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 6:56 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
 molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
 threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
 need. Can you explain how can I do that ?


 Start with g_select -select 'help all' and see what you can determine.
  Such selections are rather straightforward and have been explained several
 times on the list.  If you need help, show us what you're doing and
 describe why it isn't what you want.  It will ultimately save a lot of time.

 -Justin



 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
 one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
 hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
 from this command :-

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

 Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
 correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
 g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
 bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does
 then
 the average file or its graph tells ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

  In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and
 plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

 std. dev.relative deviation of
  standard   -   cumulants from
 those
 of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian
 distribition
 cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


  Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG
 image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with
 the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow
 getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   thank you informing about g_rdf...


 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water
 molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
 gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell

 around
 residues ... Right ??


   Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a
 more

 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it
 is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



   On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu

 wrote:



  On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation
 part.
 Now

  everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the
 output
 of

  trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's
 only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

 --
 ==

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 Postdoctoral Fellow

 Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
 School of Pharmacy
 Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
 University of Maryland, Baltimore
 20 Penn St.
 Baltimore, MD 21201

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-11 Thread bharat gupta
In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives 7.150
as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
average value calculated by g_analyze :-

  std. dev.relative deviation of
   standard   -   cumulants from those of
set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
  cum. 3   cum. 4
SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163
SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 thank you informing about g_rdf...

 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell around
 residues ... Right ??


 Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part. Now
 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


  I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of
 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

 --
 ==

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 Postdoctoral Fellow

 Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
 School of Pharmacy
 Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
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 Baltimore, MD 21201

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-10 Thread bharat gupta
I checked the file hbnum.xvg file and it contains three columns - time,
hbonds, hbonds that donot follow the angle criteria. In that case SS1 is
the average of actual hbonds (2nd column ) and SS2 is the average of 3rd
column. Am I right here or not ??

I tried to calculate the h-bond for residues 115-118 individually, and then
checked the average for each residue. For single residue calculation, the
g_analyze average value is correct.

But when I calculate the h-bond as a range 115-118, I get the g_analyze
value as 1.62 . I calculated the average manually in excel, got the average
values as 16.2 [which is (g_analyze avg value)/10].

I then added up the average values of h-bonds of individual residues and
the final comes around 16.2, same as that of the 115-118 range h-bonds.
This means that my calculation is correct.

I also used trjorder to calculate h-bond at distance 0.34 for residues
115-118. I got the average value around 2.51 from g_analyze, where as
manual calculation gives 25.1. I don't knw why for the range the g_analyze
give avg as (actual avg value)/10 ??

Why does trjorder and g_hbond gives different number of hydrogen bonds for
the same residue set??

Thanks
---
BHARAT



On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 12:20 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,
 I used the command g_hbond to find h-bond between  residues 115-118 and
 water. Then I used g_analyze to find out the average and it gives the
 value
 for the hbonds like this :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1   6.877249e-02   2.546419e-01   5.092839e-03   2.1813.495
 SS2   6.997201e-02   2.673450e-01   5.346901e-03   2.4215.001

 When I calculated the average manually, by taking the average of numbers
 in
 second column of hbnum.xvg file, I got a value of around 13.5.. What is
 the
 reason for such a large difference.


 Hard to say, but I've never known g_analyze to be wrong, so I'd suspect
 something is amiss in your manual calculation.  The difference between 13.5
 and 0.0069 is huge; you should be able to scan through the data file to see
 what the expected value should be.


  In another case, g_analyze gives avg values of aroun 6.9 for hbond between
 two residues and when I calculated it maually I got the avg values as 6.8

 ..


 Whats the meaning of SS1 and SS2,?? Does it mean that SS1 refers to time
 and SS2 refers to hbond numbers in the hbnum.xvg obtained from g_hbond
 analysis ??


 Data sets 1 and 2.  You will note that there are two columns of data in
 the -hbnum output produced by g_hbond, with titles explaining both.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-10 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part. Now
everything is fine.

Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water nearest
to protein.




On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 7:18 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 I checked the file hbnum.xvg file and it contains three columns - time,
 hbonds, hbonds that donot follow the angle criteria. In that case SS1 is


 The third column is not actually H-bonds, then ;)


  the average of actual hbonds (2nd column ) and SS2 is the average of 3rd
 column. Am I right here or not ??


 Yes.


  I tried to calculate the h-bond for residues 115-118 individually, and
 then
 checked the average for each residue. For single residue calculation, the
 g_analyze average value is correct.

 But when I calculate the h-bond as a range 115-118, I get the g_analyze
 value as 1.62 . I calculated the average manually in excel, got the
 average
 values as 16.2 [which is (g_analyze avg value)/10].


 That is impossible.  You cannot get a different average by examining the
 same numbers.  Read the g_analyze output again - I am willing to bet that
 you're not seeing the exponent of the scientific notation.


  I then added up the average values of h-bonds of individual residues and
 the final comes around 16.2, same as that of the 115-118 range h-bonds.
 This means that my calculation is correct.

 I also used trjorder to calculate h-bond at distance 0.34 for residues
 115-118. I got the average value around 2.51 from g_analyze, where as
 manual calculation gives 25.1. I don't knw why for the range the g_analyze
 give avg as (actual avg value)/10 ??

 Why does trjorder and g_hbond gives different number of hydrogen bonds for
 the same residue set??


 All of this comes down to correctly reading the screen output.  I have no
 idea what you're doing with trjorder, though.  It doesn't measure H-bonds.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-10 Thread bharat gupta
But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell around
residues ... Right ??


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part. Now
 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water nearest
 to protein.


 I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of
 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only one
 tool for that.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-10 Thread bharat gupta
thank you informing about g_rdf...

Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which gives
the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell around
 residues ... Right ??


 Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



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 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part. Now
 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


  I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of
 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-09 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,
I used the command g_hbond to find h-bond between  residues 115-118 and
water. Then I used g_analyze to find out the average and it gives the value
for the hbonds like this :-

  std. dev.relative deviation of
   standard   -   cumulants from those of
set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
  cum. 3   cum. 4
SS1   6.877249e-02   2.546419e-01   5.092839e-03   2.1813.495
SS2   6.997201e-02   2.673450e-01   5.346901e-03   2.4215.001

When I calculated the average manually, by taking the average of numbers in
second column of hbnum.xvg file, I got a value of around 13.5.. What is the
reason for such a large difference.

In another case, g_analyze gives avg values of aroun 6.9 for hbond between
two residues and when I calculated it maually I got the avg values as 6.8
..

Whats the meaning of SS1 and SS2,?? Does it mean that SS1 refers to time
and SS2 refers to hbond numbers in the hbnum.xvg obtained from g_hbond
analysis ??

Please clarify these doubts..

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[gmx-users] Re: Using mpirun on CentOS 6.0

2013-11-05 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am getting the following error while using the command -

[root@localhost INGT]# mpirun -np 24 mdrun_mpi -v -deffnm npt

Error -

/usr/bin/mpdroot: open failed for root's mpd conf
filempiexec_localhost.localdomain (__init__ 1208): forked process failed;
status=255

I complied gromacs using - ./configure --enable-shared --enable-mpi. I have
installed the mpich package , this is what I get when I check for mpirun
and mpiexec -

[root@localhost /]# which mpirun
/usr/bin/mpirun
[root@localhost /]# which mpiexec
/usr/bin/mpiexec

What could be the problem here ??

Thanks

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[gmx-users] Re: Calculation of water density around certain protein residues

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I want to know the exact way to calculate the density of water around
certain residues in my protein. I tried to calculate this by using
g_select, with the following command :-

g_select -f nvt.trr -s nvt.tpr -select Nearby water resname SOL and
within 0.5 of resnr 115 to 118 -os water.xvg

In the output, I got for each time step I some number of residues. For eg,

@ s0 legend Nearby water
  0.000  159.000
  0.200  168.000
  0.400  173.000
  0.600  171.000

Can I get the average the number of water moleculed for the entire
simulation time ?? and how can I get the density instead of number ??


Pls respond to this query ...

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[gmx-users] Re: Installation Gromacs 4.5.7 on rocluster cluster with centos 6.0

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying to install gromacs 4.5.7 on rocks cluster(6.0) and it works
fine till .configure command, but I am getting error at the make command :-

Error:

[root@cluster gromacs-4.5.7]# make
/bin/sh ./config.status --recheck
running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ./configure  --enable-mpi
LDFLAGS=-L/opt/rocks/lib CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/rocks/include  --no-create
--no-recursion
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
./configure: line 2050: syntax error near unexpected token `tar-ustar'
./configure: line 2050: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(tar-ustar)'
make: *** [config.status] Error 2


I have another query regarding the gromacs that comes with the Rocks
cluster distribution. The mdrun of that gromacs has been complied without
mpi option. How can I recomplie with mpi option. As I need the .configure
file which is not there in the installed gromacs folder of the rocks
cluster ...


Thanks in advance for help




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[gmx-users] Calculation of water density around certain protein residues

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I want to know the exact way to calculate the density of water around
certain residues in my protein. I tried to calculate this by using
g_select, with the following command :-

g_select -f nvt.trr -s nvt.tpr -select Nearby water resname SOL and
within 0.5 of resnr 115 to 118 -os water.xvg

In the output, I got for each time step I some number of residues. For eg,

@ s0 legend Nearby water
  0.000  159.000
  0.200  168.000
  0.400  173.000
  0.600  171.000

Can I get the average the number of water moleculed for the entire
simulation time ?? and how can I get the density instead of number ??


Pls respond to this query ...

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[gmx-users] Fwd: Installation Gromacs 4.5.7 on rocluster cluster with centos 6.0

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying to install gromacs 4.5.7 on rocks cluster(6.0) and it works
fine till .configure command, but I am getting error at the make command :-

Error:

[root@cluster gromacs-4.5.7]# make
/bin/sh ./config.status --recheck
running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ./configure  --enable-mpi
LDFLAGS=-L/opt/rocks/lib CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/rocks/include  --no-create
--no-recursion
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
./configure: line 2050: syntax error near unexpected token `tar-ustar'
./configure: line 2050: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(tar-ustar)'
make: *** [config.status] Error 2


I have another query regarding the gromacs that comes with the Rocks
cluster distribution. The mdrun of that gromacs has been complied without
mpi option. How can I recomplie with mpi option. As I need the .configure
file which is not there in the installed gromacs folder of the rocks
cluster ...


Thanks in advance for help




Regards

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[gmx-users] Re: Using gromacs on Rocks cluster

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I have installed Gromcas 4.5.6 on Rocks cluster 6.0 andmy systme is having
32 processors (cpu). But while running the nvt equilibration step, it uses
only 1 cpu and the others remain idle. I have complied the Gromacs using
enable-mpi option. How can make the mdrun use all the 32 processors ??

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[gmx-users] Fwd: Using gromacs on Rocks cluster

2013-11-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I have installed Gromcas 4.5.6 on Rocks cluster 6.0 andmy systme is having
32 processors (cpu). But while running the nvt equilibration step, it uses
only 1 cpu and the others remain idle. I have complied the Gromacs using
enable-mpi option. How can make the mdrun use all the 32 processors ??

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Re: [gmx-users] script to add water in protein

2013-08-12 Thread bharat gupta
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/03_solvate.html


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM, pooja_gu...@nccs.res.in wrote:

 Hi

 I want to add water molecule in my structure. Do anyone have idea how to
 add water molecules in protein structure. I little aware of python.
 How the gromacs spc216 add the water molecule. Can i get the code for the
 same?

 pooja

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-24 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I tried a lot to understand the meaning and relation between the .log file
and relica_index file, but I was not able to break the code. I tried to
look into gmx forum for some clue, but didn't find any. So, if possible can
you explain it ...

Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11   12 x 13
Repl pr   1.0   .01   .68   .21   .05   .09   .26


Replica exchange at step 2000 time 4
Repl ex  01 x  23456789   10   11   12   13
Repl pr.91   .32   .00   .07   .18   .08

output of replica_index.xvg

0   0123456789   10   11   12
13
2   1023456789   10   11   13
12
4   1203456789   10   11   13
12

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Looked fine


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Sir,
 
  What about the description of replica_temp file that I posted in last
 mail.
  I think that's correct ... If you can comment on that, I can move on with
  replica_index file...
 
 
  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   It's a demux. One might want trajectories to be at constant
 temperature,
  or
   constant replica. The two files define the (mutually inverse) mappings
   between those representations. So one file tells you which replica is
 at
   each temperature, and the other which temperature holds each replica.
   Nobody's ever written down anything about which is which, so like I
 said
  a
   week back, look at the first few exchanges, see how those are
 represented
   in the files, and decide for yourself which file's columns/rows have
  useful
   information you want to look at. And do write that decision down! :-)
  
   Mark
  
  
   On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, simula_460 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
I checked the md.log and replica_temp.xvg file , what I understood is
   that
the 'x' means swapping and replica are written this way.
For eg.
Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11
 12
  x
   13
Repl pr   1.0   .01   .68   .21   .05   .09
  .26
   
output in replica_temp file will be
1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
   
It means that replica 1 at higher temp. exchange with the one in
 lower
   temp
0.
   
Replica exchange at step 2000 time 4
Repl ex  01 x  23456789   10   11
 12
   13
Repl pr.91   .32   .00   .07   .18   .08
   
output in replica_temp file will be
1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
2 0 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
   
[order is from low to high temp]
   
But I am not able to understand for replica_index file :-
   
for the above two time steps here's the output :-
0   0123456789   10   11
  12
13
2   1023456789   10   11
  13
12
4   1203456789   10   11
  13
12
   
The time step four is different here, I don't know why ?? Ideally the
output should be same in both files, I suppose ??
   
Also, I tried to plot for each column separately , here I want to
  clarify
that whether each column represents the time evolution of each
 replica
   over
time. For eg. the second column should represent the temp evolution
 for
replica No. 0 wrt to time. Presuming that I understood it correctly,
 I
plotted the temp. evolution over time of all replicas separately .
  Here's
the replica_temp plot for replicas 0 to 13.
   
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png
   
   
   
   
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-24 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Thank you for your detailed response to my query. I understood the concept
of ordered arrangement of ensembles in replica_index.xvg. But I have a
doubt, you said that  *At time 4, replicas in ensemble 1 and 2 have
exchanged. So replica 0 is now in ensemble 2, which is expressed by 0 in
the third column*
*of the third row of replica_index.xvg.* 

This is fine , as the output of replica_index is :-
4   12*0 *   3456789   10   11   13
  12

But, i didn't understand this  The same condition is expressed by the
first column of the third row of replica_temp.xvg, where you will find 2,
also expressing that replica 0 is in ensemble 2 at time 4. Here's the
output for replica_temp . The first column third row is 2, its ok, but, its
shows that replica 0 is in ensemble 1 instead of 2.

4   2013456789   10   11   13
12


In addition to this, in my last mail I showed the temp graph for all
replicas. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png) .
Not all replicas visit all the temperatures, but some of them visit all the
temperatures. Is it sufficient to move with the further analysis , as in
some papers they show that some replicas visit all the temp which means
that the sufficient sampling has been achieved. In my case this is true for
some of the replicas and the average acceptance ratio achieved was 0.22 ??



On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 At time 0 we have an set of replicas and an (ordered) set of ensembles. We
 could label these however we liked, but for (in)convenience we use 0-(n-1)
 for both. The rows of the matrices in the *.xvg files change with time. At
 time 2, replicas in ensemble 0 and 1 have exchanged, so replica 0 is now in
 ensemble 1. At time 4, replicas in ensemble 1 and 2 have exchanged. So
 replica 0 is now in ensemble 2, which is expressed by 0 in the third column
 of the third row of replica_index.xvg. The same condition is expressed by
 the first column of the third row of replica_temp.xvg, where you will find
 2, also expressing that replica 0 is in ensemble 2 at time 4. The columns
 of the two matrices allow you to see either the profile of which replica
 was in this ensemble at which time, or which ensemble this replica was in
 at which time.

 Mark


 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  I tried a lot to understand the meaning and relation between the .log
 file
  and relica_index file, but I was not able to break the code. I tried to
  look into gmx forum for some clue, but didn't find any. So, if possible
 can
  you explain it ...
 
  Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
  Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
  Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11   12 x
 13
  Repl pr   1.0   .01   .68   .21   .05   .09   .26
 
 
  Replica exchange at step 2000 time 4
  Repl ex  01 x  23456789   10   11   12
 13
  Repl pr.91   .32   .00   .07   .18   .08
 
  output of replica_index.xvg
 
  0   0123456789   10   11   12
  13
  2   1023456789   10   11   13
  12
  4   1203456789   10   11   13
  12
 
  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Looked fine
  
  
   On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Sir,
   
What about the description of replica_temp file that I posted in last
   mail.
I think that's correct ... If you can comment on that, I can move on
  with
replica_index file...
   
   
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Mark Abraham 
  mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 It's a demux. One might want trajectories to be at constant
   temperature,
or
 constant replica. The two files define the (mutually inverse)
  mappings
 between those representations. So one file tells you which replica
 is
   at
 each temperature, and the other which temperature holds each
 replica.
 Nobody's ever written down anything about which is which, so like I
   said
a
 week back, look at the first few exchanges, see how those are
   represented
 in the files, and decide for yourself which file's columns/rows
 have
useful
 information you want to look at. And do write that decision down!
 :-)

 Mark


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, simula_460 
  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I checked the md.log and replica_temp.xvg file , what I
 understood
  is
 that
  the 'x' means swapping and replica are written this way.
  For eg.
  Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
  Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
  Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11

Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-24 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Thank you for the advice.  I have not understood the things properly,
especially the convergence of REMD. I got two relevant papers : 1. Convergence
of replica exchange molecular dynamics
2. Convergence and sampling efficiency in replica exchange simulations of
peptide folding in explicit solvent. If you can provide better reference
then this ...


Thank you francesco for the option. Indeed I was missing a a very imp.
option while plotting the data.


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:40 PM, francesco oteri
francesco.ot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi to everybody,
 Bharat, maybe i didn't follow exactly the wole tale, but is it possible you
 are running xmgrace without the -nxy option?
 You are probably visualizing the data related the 1st replica several
 times!

 Francesco


 2013/5/24 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

  On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Dear Sir,
  
   Thank you for your detailed response to my query. I understood the
  concept
   of ordered arrangement of ensembles in replica_index.xvg. But I have a
   doubt, you said that  *At time 4, replicas in ensemble 1 and 2 have
   exchanged. So replica 0 is now in ensemble 2, which is expressed by 0
 in
   the third column*
   *of the third row of replica_index.xvg.* 
  
   This is fine , as the output of replica_index is :-
   4   12*0 *   3456789   10   11
  13
 12
  
   But, i didn't understand this  The same condition is expressed by the
   first column of the third row of replica_temp.xvg, where you will find
 2,
   also expressing that replica 0 is in ensemble 2 at time 4. Here's the
   output for replica_temp . The first column third row is 2, its ok, but,
  its
   shows that replica 0 is in ensemble 1 instead of 2.
  
 
  No, if the rows of both matrices describe time, and there are two
 different
  matrices for the same exchange set, then the information described by a
  column must differ, like I said last email. You are applying the same
  interpretation to a column from either matrix.
 
 
   4   2013456789   10   11
 13
   12
  
  
   In addition to this, in my last mail I showed the temp graph for all
   replicas. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png)
 .
   Not all replicas visit all the temperatures, but some of them visit all
  the
   temperatures. Is it sufficient to move with the further analysis , as
 in
   some papers they show that some replicas visit all the temp which means
   that the sufficient sampling has been achieved. In my case this is true
  for
   some of the replicas and the average acceptance ratio achieved was 0.22
  ??
  
 
  I've answered this question several times. Each replica merely visiting
  each temperature means nothing for converged sampling. There's lots of
  literature here, including stuff by me ;-) A balance of replicas visiting
  ensembles is necessary but not sufficient for the kind of replica flow
 that
  would be necessary for generalized convergence. One can shrug one's
  shoulders at some point and say things are probably as good as they'll
 get
  for reasonable cost, but your reviewer might disagree with you.
 Convergence
  of sampling at a single temperature can be assessed in a similar way as
 for
  non-REMD simulations, caveat that the exchange events pretty much stop
 you
  using metrics based on correlation time. If you want to know how to do
  things properly, you need to do some reading.
 
  Mark
 
 
  
  
  
   On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
At time 0 we have an set of replicas and an (ordered) set of
 ensembles.
   We
could label these however we liked, but for (in)convenience we use
   0-(n-1)
for both. The rows of the matrices in the *.xvg files change with
 time.
   At
time 2, replicas in ensemble 0 and 1 have exchanged, so replica 0 is
  now
   in
ensemble 1. At time 4, replicas in ensemble 1 and 2 have exchanged.
 So
replica 0 is now in ensemble 2, which is expressed by 0 in the third
   column
of the third row of replica_index.xvg. The same condition is
 expressed
  by
the first column of the third row of replica_temp.xvg, where you will
   find
2, also expressing that replica 0 is in ensemble 2 at time 4. The
  columns
of the two matrices allow you to see either the profile of which
  replica
was in this ensemble at which time, or which ensemble this replica
 was
  in
at which time.
   
Mark
   
   
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, bharat gupta 
  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Dear Sir,

 I tried a lot to understand the meaning and relation between the
 .log
file
 and relica_index file, but I was not able to break the code. I
 tried
  to
 look into gmx forum for some clue, but didn't find any. So, if
  possible
can
 you explain it ...

 Replica exchange

Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Thank you for your reply. But I used the command demux.pl md$.log , where
$= No. of replica. I get the same plot every time. Sorry to ask this , but
where am I going wrong ??
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-23 Thread bharat gupta
I checked the first 5 md.log files, and the data is exactly the same in all
of them  Does it mean there could be problem with demux.pl


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Look at those files. Use diff. They're all the same. Your plots are
 probably all showing the first column of each. You want to look at each
 column. (And even then the best it can show is that your simulation is not
 clearly inadequate.)

 Mark


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Thank you for your reply. But I used the command demux.pl md$.log ,
 where
  $= No. of replica. I get the same plot every time. Sorry to ask this ,
 but
  where am I going wrong ??
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I checked the md.log and replica_temp.xvg file , what I understood is that
the 'x' means swapping and replica are written that way.
For eg.
Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11   12 x 13
Repl pr   1.0   .01   .68   .21   .05   .09   .26

output in replica_temp file will be
1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12

It means that replica 1 at higher temp. exchange with the one in lower temp
0.

Replica exchange at step 2000 time 4
Repl ex  01 x  23456789   10   11   12   13
Repl pr.91   .32   .00   .07   .18   .08

output in replica_temp file will be
1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
2 0 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12

[order is from low to high temp]

But I am not able to understand for replica_index file :-

for the above two time steps here's the output :-
0   0123456789   10   11   12
13
2   1023456789   10   11   13
12
4   1203456789   10   11   13
12

The time step four is different here, I don't know why ?? Ideally the
output should be same in both files, I suppose ??

Also, I tried to plot for each column separately , here I want to clarify
that whether each column represents the time evolution of each replica over
time. For eg. the second column should represent the temp evolution for
replica No. 0 wrt to time. Presuming that I understood it correctly, I
plotted the temp. evolution over time of all replicas separately . Here's
the replica_temp plot for replicas 0 to 13.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png







On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Each md.log has all the information about all replica exchanges, as you can
 see. I suggested you look at your .log and .xvg files a week ago ;-)
 There's no problem if a script post-processes all the identical information
 from each .log file.

 Mark


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:01 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I checked the first 5 md.log files, and the data is exactly the same in
 all
  of them  Does it mean there could be problem with demux.pl
 
 
  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Look at those files. Use diff. They're all the same. Your plots are
   probably all showing the first column of each. You want to look at each
   column. (And even then the best it can show is that your simulation is
  not
   clearly inadequate.)
  
   Mark
  
  
   On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Dear Sir,
   
Thank you for your reply. But I used the command demux.pl md$.log ,
   where
$= No. of replica. I get the same plot every time. Sorry to ask this
 ,
   but
where am I going wrong ??
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-23 Thread bharat gupta
Sir,

What about the description of replica_temp file that I posted in last mail.
I think that's correct ... If you can comment on that, I can move on with
replica_index file...


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's a demux. One might want trajectories to be at constant temperature, or
 constant replica. The two files define the (mutually inverse) mappings
 between those representations. So one file tells you which replica is at
 each temperature, and the other which temperature holds each replica.
 Nobody's ever written down anything about which is which, so like I said a
 week back, look at the first few exchanges, see how those are represented
 in the files, and decide for yourself which file's columns/rows have useful
 information you want to look at. And do write that decision down! :-)

 Mark


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, simula_460 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I checked the md.log and replica_temp.xvg file , what I understood is
 that
  the 'x' means swapping and replica are written this way.
  For eg.
  Replica exchange at step 1000 time 2
  Repl 0 - 1  dE = -1.067e+00
  Repl ex  0 x  123456789   10   11   12 x
 13
  Repl pr   1.0   .01   .68   .21   .05   .09   .26
 
  output in replica_temp file will be
  1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
 
  It means that replica 1 at higher temp. exchange with the one in lower
 temp
  0.
 
  Replica exchange at step 2000 time 4
  Repl ex  01 x  23456789   10   11   12
 13
  Repl pr.91   .32   .00   .07   .18   .08
 
  output in replica_temp file will be
  1 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
  2 0 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 12
 
  [order is from low to high temp]
 
  But I am not able to understand for replica_index file :-
 
  for the above two time steps here's the output :-
  0   0123456789   10   11   12
  13
  2   1023456789   10   11   13
  12
  4   1203456789   10   11   13
  12
 
  The time step four is different here, I don't know why ?? Ideally the
  output should be same in both files, I suppose ??
 
  Also, I tried to plot for each column separately , here I want to clarify
  that whether each column represents the time evolution of each replica
 over
  time. For eg. the second column should represent the temp evolution for
  replica No. 0 wrt to time. Presuming that I understood it correctly, I
  plotted the temp. evolution over time of all replicas separately . Here's
  the replica_temp plot for replicas 0 to 13.
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-22 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I performed another round of trial with different set of temperature and I
got the avg accp. ration around 0.22. Here's the temp. dist. that I used :
250 268 288 308 331 355 380 408 438 469 503 540 579 621

I then checked the replica_index and replica_temp files for each replica
individually. The plots are exactly similar for all the replicas, as an eg.
here's the link for first three replicas .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuydj010wh2hgkt/replica_index0.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cuydj010wh2hgkt/replica_index0.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q01wluh8wxlcxs8/replica_index1.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/q01wluh8wxlcxs8/replica_index1.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cm9f8qo1afo6w4k/replica_index2.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cm9f8qo1afo6w4k/replica_index2.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.png;cid=1368714426780-10

I checked the PE overlap also, that looks fine (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qf06of9lp1m51d/pe_overlap.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/0qf06of9lp1m51d/pe_overlap.png;cid=1368714426780-10
)
I checked for the temp. dist. which also looks fine to me .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png;cid=1368714426780-10

I don't know why all plots are similar ?? Is this related to wrong settings
in mdp file. Here's the mdp file that I am using for production run. I
changed ref_t for each replica in the mdp file.




 define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
 constraints =  all-bonds
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.002  ; ps
 nsteps  =  2500; 5 ps = 50 ns
 nstcomm =  10
 nstcalcenergy   =  10
 nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
 trajectory
 nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
 nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
 trajectory
 nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
 file
 nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off

 pbc =  no

 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
 gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0

 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  system

 optimize_fft=  yes

 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
 tau_t   =  0.1
 tc_grps =  system
 ref_t   =  250
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 Pcoupl  =  no
 ; Generate velocites is on
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300
 gen_seed=  -1

 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  78.5; Dielectric constant for the implicit
solvent
 ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = 0.005

I suspect that I am doing something wrong somewhere ...

It will be helpful if anybody can help me in this regard...

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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-21 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I performed another round of trial with different set of temperature and I
got the avg accp. ration around 0.22. Here's the temp. dist. that I used :
250 268 288 308 331 355 380 408 438 469 503 540 579 621

I then checked the replica_index and replica_temp files for each replica
individually. The plots are exactly similar for all the replicas, as an eg.
here's the link for first three replicas .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuydj010wh2hgkt/replica_index0.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q01wluh8wxlcxs8/replica_index1.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cm9f8qo1afo6w4k/replica_index2.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.png

I checked the PE overlap also, that looks fine (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qf06of9lp1m51d/pe_overlap.png)
I checked for the temp. dist. which also looks fine to me .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png

I don't know why all plots are similar ?? Is this related to wrong settings
in mdp file. Here's the mdp file that I am using for production run. I
changed ref_t for each replica in the mdp file.


I suspect that I am doing something wrong somewhere ...

 define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
 constraints =  all-bonds
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.002  ; ps
 nsteps  =  2500; 5 ps = 50 ns
 nstcomm =  10
 nstcalcenergy   =  10
 nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
 trajectory
 nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
 nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
 trajectory
 nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
 file
 nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off

 pbc =  no

 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
 gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0

 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  system

 optimize_fft=  yes

 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
 tau_t   =  0.1
 tc_grps =  system
 ref_t   =  250
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 Pcoupl  =  no
 ; Generate velocites is on
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300
 gen_seed=  -1

 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  78.5; Dielectric constant for the implicit   solvent
 ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = 0.005


It will be helpful if you provide your comments...

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-18 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

My main objective of carrying out REMD is to study peptide folding and if
possible to get some insight in protein design and folding. I read some
articles related to my work and they always show temp (replica_index)
graphs for 2-3 replicas , saying that the sufficient sampling had been
achieved. In my case I checked the replica_temp for first three replicas (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.png) (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.png)
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.png)

Almost all the three graphs are similar and the last 15ns shows that there
is no enough exchange (if I have analyzed correctly) ?? In this case the
acceptance ratio was fine and PE overlap was also good, but problem lies
with efficient sampling ?? What shall I do in such a case ??

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  The the default bin width is 0.1 which I used for plotting the graphs.
 

 That's nice. You need to decide what you need to do about it if you want
 graphs that look like those you see reported :-)


  Another question is about your last reply to my thread exchange
 acceptance
  is a poor proxy for sampling efficiency. Sorry to ask this, but how to
  check whether the sampling efficiency is optimal or not (what should be
  optimal sampling efficiency) ??
 

 Ah, now here's the real question :-) Spacing the replicas for optimal
 *flow* is a difficult problem, even for toy peptides, see e.g. papers by
 Nadler and Hansmann. Merely accepting exchanges does not imply flow. The
 belief is that getting flow enhances sampling, but the latter is hard to
 demonstrate without showing that simulation time to converged sampling
 actually reduces. I'm not aware of anybody who's actually done that - but
 it would certainly be an advantage if your application is interested in
 data at a range of temperatures.

 Mark

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Histograms 101: The smaller your bin width, the more variations you
 see.
   The more samples you have, the fewer variations you see. A histogram
 that
   does not mention either of this is a work of fiction.
  
   The number of degrees of freedom in the potential energy distribution
 is
   also a factor in whether the distribution will look smooth for a given
  bin
   width and number of samples.
  
   Mark
  
   On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Dear Sir,
   
I tried plotting the PE overlap using the following way :-
   
1. extract PE of each replica using g_energy
2. get the PE distribution using g_analyze -f potential_0.xvg -dist
pot0.xvg
3. used xmgrace to plot all the PE distribution graphs together.
   
The same thing I did for temperature distribution for each replica.
   
Here's the file for both PE overlap (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/895f1bi0hkuy884/pe_dist.png)
temp distribution (
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png
)
Is this the correct way ??
   
   
But the plot doesnot look like this (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsuabkl7zrydnib/sample%20PE%20overlap.jpg
 ).
   Do i
have to normalize the data and then plot in order to get a smooth
 plot
   like
this one??
   

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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-17 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I ran the REMD simulation with temp. distribution discussed in my last
thread. Each replica was run for 50 ns

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
Repl  .22  .19  .18  .16  .19  .21  .23  .25  .26  .29  .28  .28
Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
Repl 2661 2369 2296 2008 2360 2668 2866 3119 3234 3549 3469 3475
Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
Repl  .21  .19  .18  .16  .19  .21  .23  .25  .26  .28  .28  .28

Now, how to find the potential energy overlap for each replica??.. I have
obtained the pot. energy for each replica separately..

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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-17 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I tried plotting the PE overlap using the following way :-

1. extract PE of each replica using g_energy
2. get the PE distribution using g_analyze -f potential_0.xvg -dist pot0.xvg
3. used xmgrace to plot all the PE distribution graphs together.

The same thing I did for temperature distribution for each replica.

Here's the file for both PE overlap (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/895f1bi0hkuy884/pe_dist.png)
temp distribution (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png)
Is this the correct way ??


But the plot doesnot look like this (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsuabkl7zrydnib/sample%20PE%20overlap.jpg). Do i
have to normalize the data and then plot in order to get a smooth plot like
this one??


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-17 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

The the default bin width is 0.1 which I used for plotting the graphs.
Another question is about your last reply to my thread exchange acceptance
is a poor proxy for sampling efficiency. Sorry to ask this, but how to
check whether the sampling efficiency is optimal or not (what should be
optimal sampling efficiency) ??

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Histograms 101: The smaller your bin width, the more variations you see.
 The more samples you have, the fewer variations you see. A histogram that
 does not mention either of this is a work of fiction.

 The number of degrees of freedom in the potential energy distribution is
 also a factor in whether the distribution will look smooth for a given bin
 width and number of samples.

 Mark

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  I tried plotting the PE overlap using the following way :-
 
  1. extract PE of each replica using g_energy
  2. get the PE distribution using g_analyze -f potential_0.xvg -dist
  pot0.xvg
  3. used xmgrace to plot all the PE distribution graphs together.
 
  The same thing I did for temperature distribution for each replica.
 
  Here's the file for both PE overlap (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/895f1bi0hkuy884/pe_dist.png)
  temp distribution (
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png
  )
  Is this the correct way ??
 
 
  But the plot doesnot look like this (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsuabkl7zrydnib/sample%20PE%20overlap.jpg).
 Do i
  have to normalize the data and then plot in order to get a smooth plot
 like
  this one??
 
  
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Re: [Spam:*****] [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-16 Thread bharat gupta
Okay Sir, I will try two-three combinations this time and will report back
to you ...


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 An acceptance ratio of 0.2/0.3 is normally best. The problem with high
 acceptance ratio is that it means that a large portion of the exchanges are
 just back and forth exchanges between consecutive exchange and are thus
 disturbing the system more that actually helping sampling.

 I do not know particularly the paper you mention but if you like what they
 do, it is your choice at the end.

 Why don;t you just increase the spacing between the replicas? You will
 need less replicas and potentially you could run two simulations instead of
 one and evaluate the convergence ...

 On May 16, 2013, at 1:50 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  The plots that I showed in my last mail were for all replicas. I tried
  plotting the first 500 ps of replica_index and replica_time files. I
 think
  the plots look fine, and there could be problem with the plotting tool .
  Here the link for both files ,
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g16mlxfsme4rx2/replica_temp.bmp
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfs0b9whu6j7lo/replica_index.bmp
 
  Now regarding the high acceptance ratio which is 0.5 , I came across a
  paper (http://www.pnas.org/content/100/13/7587.full.pdf), here they have
  mentioned that their average acceptance ratio ranged between 30 to 80%. I
  have a question here, how did they calculate the range for the average
  acceptance ratio or is it average ratio for each replica . Actually, this
  is the reference I am following. I am also interested in peptide folding
  simulation, similar to this article.
 
  I want to know, whether the average acceptance ratio that I have got for
 my
  trial simulation is correct , together with the replica_temp and
  replica_remd plots. Can I proceed for large production runs to complete
 my
  experiment ??
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  The interval between the exchange trial affect the efficiency of REMD
 but
  not the the exchange ratio (at least in principle).
 
  In you case I am not sure what the plot are showing! Are these showing
 all
  the replicas? what are the units?
 
  On May 14, 2013, at 5:07 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result for the REMD trial with large temperature gaps.
 
  Temp. distribution : 280.0 294.9 310.7 327.3 344.7 363.1 382.5 402.9
  424.4
  447.1 471.0 496.1 522.6 550.5 579.9 610.8
 
  Out of md16.log :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .38  .43  .43  .36  .45  .40  .37  .48  .47  .45
  .47
  .44  .46
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl   50   42   46   52   57   40   58   49   42   53   61   63
 56
  57   58
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .37  .42  .46  .32  .46  .40  .34  .43  .49  .51
  .45
  .46  .46
  Average acceptance ratio : 0.46
 
  But, the repli_index.xvg and replica_temp.xvg files still shows that
 the
  replicas does not exchange equally well .
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkbwpuj7l2o282b/replica_index.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png
 
  what could be wrong in this case?? Is it the mdp file settings or
  implicit
  solvent setting. Does the time to replica to exhange also affects their
  swapping ??
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  You need to increase the temperature gaps indeed if you want
 acceptance
  ratio ~0.2/0.3. But again this won't work with the water …
 
  It is not clear what happens in your index file but probably a problem
  from grace to plot so many points … you can try to increase the Max
  drawing path length in the preference menu of grace.
 
  On May 13, 2013, at 4:22 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  I repeated the simulation again for 25 replicas with the following
  temp.
  distribution .
 
  280
  289.1
  298.5
  308.2
  318.2
  328.6
  339.3
  350.3
  361.7
  373.5
  385.6
  398.1
  411.1
  424.4
  438.3
  452.5
  467.2
  482.4
  498.1
  514.3
  531.0
  548.3
  566.1
  584.5
  603.5
  623.2
 
  The output of md.log file is :-
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
 12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl  .63  .63  .62  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59
  .59
  .60  .60  .61  .62  .62  .63  .64  .64  .65  .65  .66  .66
 
  Repl  number of exchanges

Re: [Spam:*****] [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-16 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Here's the result of three different runs :

Temperature distribution for three trials

Repeat-1  280 298 317 337 359 382 406 432 460 489 520 554 589 627
Repeat-2  280 299 319 340 363 388 414 441 471 503 536 572 611
Repeat-3  280 300 322 345 370 397 426 457 490 526 564 605 649

md.log files output from three different trials:

Repeat-1  .37  .28  .26  .30  .25  .29  .32  .35  .32  .35  .36  .32  .31
Repeat-2  .30  .33  .30  .25  .19  .27  .30  .31  .27  .40  .34  .31
Repeat-3  .18  .22  .26  .34  .26  .28  .25  .27  .27  .25  .27  .22

I think as the required acceptance value all the three trials are fine, but
trail 3 would be much better to continue the further runs and anlysis ??

So, is it fine to continue with the third simulation ?? But still the
problem is that I am not getting the exact graphs with xmgrace??


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 You have to convince yourself, not me :)) But I can give you my opinion …

 On May 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Okay Sir, I will try two-three combinations this time and will report
 back
  to you ...
 
 
  On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  An acceptance ratio of 0.2/0.3 is normally best. The problem with high
  acceptance ratio is that it means that a large portion of the exchanges
 are
  just back and forth exchanges between consecutive exchange and are thus
  disturbing the system more that actually helping sampling.
 
  I do not know particularly the paper you mention but if you like what
 they
  do, it is your choice at the end.
 
  Why don;t you just increase the spacing between the replicas? You will
  need less replicas and potentially you could run two simulations
 instead of
  one and evaluate the convergence ...
 
  On May 16, 2013, at 1:50 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The plots that I showed in my last mail were for all replicas. I tried
  plotting the first 500 ps of replica_index and replica_time files. I
  think
  the plots look fine, and there could be problem with the plotting tool
 .
  Here the link for both files ,
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g16mlxfsme4rx2/replica_temp.bmp
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfs0b9whu6j7lo/replica_index.bmp
 
  Now regarding the high acceptance ratio which is 0.5 , I came across a
  paper (http://www.pnas.org/content/100/13/7587.full.pdf), here they
 have
  mentioned that their average acceptance ratio ranged between 30 to
 80%. I
  have a question here, how did they calculate the range for the average
  acceptance ratio or is it average ratio for each replica . Actually,
 this
  is the reference I am following. I am also interested in peptide
 folding
  simulation, similar to this article.
 
  I want to know, whether the average acceptance ratio that I have got
 for
  my
  trial simulation is correct , together with the replica_temp and
  replica_remd plots. Can I proceed for large production runs to complete
  my
  experiment ??
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  The interval between the exchange trial affect the efficiency of REMD
  but
  not the the exchange ratio (at least in principle).
 
  In you case I am not sure what the plot are showing! Are these showing
  all
  the replicas? what are the units?
 
  On May 14, 2013, at 5:07 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result for the REMD trial with large temperature gaps.
 
  Temp. distribution : 280.0 294.9 310.7 327.3 344.7 363.1 382.5 402.9
  424.4
  447.1 471.0 496.1 522.6 550.5 579.9 610.8
 
  Out of md16.log :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
 12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .38  .43  .43  .36  .45  .40  .37  .48  .47  .45
  .47
  .44  .46
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
 12
  13   14   15
  Repl   50   42   46   52   57   40   58   49   42   53   61   63
  56
  57   58
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
 12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .37  .42  .46  .32  .46  .40  .34  .43  .49  .51
  .45
  .46  .46
  Average acceptance ratio : 0.46
 
  But, the repli_index.xvg and replica_temp.xvg files still shows that
  the
  replicas does not exchange equally well .
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkbwpuj7l2o282b/replica_index.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png
 
  what could be wrong in this case?? Is it the mdp file settings or
  implicit
  solvent setting. Does the time to replica to exhange also affects
 their
  swapping ??
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  You need to increase the temperature gaps indeed if you want

Re: [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-16 Thread bharat gupta
Okay, now I can start with large production runs .


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:10 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 Indeed the Repeat-3 seems good. But I would guess you did not run too
 long, right! That would explain the distribution of values!

 On May 16, 2013, at 2:04 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result of three different runs :
 
  Temperature distribution for three trials
 
  Repeat-1  280 298 317 337 359 382 406 432 460 489 520 554 589 627
  Repeat-2  280 299 319 340 363 388 414 441 471 503 536 572 611
  Repeat-3  280 300 322 345 370 397 426 457 490 526 564 605 649
 
  md.log files output from three different trials:
 
  Repeat-1  .37  .28  .26  .30  .25  .29  .32  .35  .32  .35  .36  .32  .31
  Repeat-2  .30  .33  .30  .25  .19  .27  .30  .31  .27  .40  .34  .31
  Repeat-3  .18  .22  .26  .34  .26  .28  .25  .27  .27  .25  .27  .22
 
  I think as the required acceptance value all the three trials are fine,
 but
  trail 3 would be much better to continue the further runs and anlysis ??
 
  So, is it fine to continue with the third simulation ?? But still the
  problem is that I am not getting the exact graphs with xmgrace??
 
 
  On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  You have to convince yourself, not me :)) But I can give you my opinion
 …
 
  On May 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Okay Sir, I will try two-three combinations this time and will report
  back
  to you ...
 
 
  On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  An acceptance ratio of 0.2/0.3 is normally best. The problem with high
  acceptance ratio is that it means that a large portion of the
 exchanges
  are
  just back and forth exchanges between consecutive exchange and are
 thus
  disturbing the system more that actually helping sampling.
 
  I do not know particularly the paper you mention but if you like what
  they
  do, it is your choice at the end.
 
  Why don;t you just increase the spacing between the replicas? You will
  need less replicas and potentially you could run two simulations
  instead of
  one and evaluate the convergence ...
 
  On May 16, 2013, at 1:50 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The plots that I showed in my last mail were for all replicas. I
 tried
  plotting the first 500 ps of replica_index and replica_time files. I
  think
  the plots look fine, and there could be problem with the plotting
 tool
  .
  Here the link for both files ,
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g16mlxfsme4rx2/replica_temp.bmp
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfs0b9whu6j7lo/replica_index.bmp
 
  Now regarding the high acceptance ratio which is 0.5 , I came across
 a
  paper (http://www.pnas.org/content/100/13/7587.full.pdf), here they
  have
  mentioned that their average acceptance ratio ranged between 30 to
  80%. I
  have a question here, how did they calculate the range for the
 average
  acceptance ratio or is it average ratio for each replica . Actually,
  this
  is the reference I am following. I am also interested in peptide
  folding
  simulation, similar to this article.
 
  I want to know, whether the average acceptance ratio that I have got
  for
  my
  trial simulation is correct , together with the replica_temp and
  replica_remd plots. Can I proceed for large production runs to
 complete
  my
  experiment ??
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  The interval between the exchange trial affect the efficiency of
 REMD
  but
  not the the exchange ratio (at least in principle).
 
  In you case I am not sure what the plot are showing! Are these
 showing
  all
  the replicas? what are the units?
 
  On May 14, 2013, at 5:07 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result for the REMD trial with large temperature gaps.
 
  Temp. distribution : 280.0 294.9 310.7 327.3 344.7 363.1 382.5
 402.9
  424.4
  447.1 471.0 496.1 522.6 550.5 579.9 610.8
 
  Out of md16.log :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
  12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .38  .43  .43  .36  .45  .40  .37  .48  .47
  .45
  .47
  .44  .46
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
  12
  13   14   15
  Repl   50   42   46   52   57   40   58   49   42   53   61
 63
  56
  57   58
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11
  12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .37  .42  .46  .32  .46  .40  .34  .43  .49
  .51
  .45
  .46  .46
  Average acceptance ratio : 0.46
 
  But, the repli_index.xvg and replica_temp.xvg files still shows
 that
  the
  replicas does not exchange equally well .
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s

Re: [Spam:*****] [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-16 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry to ask this simple question but how to read the replica_index and
 replica_temp files. I tried to search a lot but didn't find any
information. As I have concatenated all log files and demuxed them. Here's
first 10 lines from both files:-
replica_index:
0   0123456789   10   11   12
2   1023456798   10   11   12
4   1023456978   10   11   12
6   1023459678   10   11   12
8   1203495768   10   11   12
10  1230947568   11   10   12


replica_temp
0   0123456789   10   11   12
2   1023456798   10   11   12
4   1023456897   10   11   12
6   1023457896   10   11   12
8   2013468795   10   11   12
10  3012578694   11   10   12


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result of three different runs :
 
  Temperature distribution for three trials
 
  Repeat-1  280 298 317 337 359 382 406 432 460 489 520 554 589 627
  Repeat-2  280 299 319 340 363 388 414 441 471 503 536 572 611
  Repeat-3  280 300 322 345 370 397 426 457 490 526 564 605 649
 
  md.log files output from three different trials:
 
  Repeat-1  .37  .28  .26  .30  .25  .29  .32  .35  .32  .35  .36  .32  .31
  Repeat-2  .30  .33  .30  .25  .19  .27  .30  .31  .27  .40  .34  .31
  Repeat-3  .18  .22  .26  .34  .26  .28  .25  .27  .27  .25  .27  .22
 
  I think as the required acceptance value all the three trials are fine,
 but
  trail 3 would be much better to continue the further runs and anlysis ??
 


 Probably. But exchange acceptance is a poor proxy for sampling efficiency -
 see recent discussions of REMD on this list.

 Mark

 So, is it fine to continue with the third simulation ?? But still the
  problem is that I am not getting the exact graphs with xmgrace??
 
 
  On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
  
   You have to convince yourself, not me :)) But I can give you my
 opinion …
  
   On May 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Okay Sir, I will try two-three combinations this time and will report
   back
to you ...
   
   
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
   wrote:
   
   
An acceptance ratio of 0.2/0.3 is normally best. The problem with
 high
acceptance ratio is that it means that a large portion of the
  exchanges
   are
just back and forth exchanges between consecutive exchange and are
  thus
disturbing the system more that actually helping sampling.
   
I do not know particularly the paper you mention but if you like
 what
   they
do, it is your choice at the end.
   
Why don;t you just increase the spacing between the replicas? You
 will
need less replicas and potentially you could run two simulations
   instead of
one and evaluate the convergence ...
   
On May 16, 2013, at 1:50 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 
wrote:
   
The plots that I showed in my last mail were for all replicas. I
  tried
plotting the first 500 ps of replica_index and replica_time files.
 I
think
the plots look fine, and there could be problem with the plotting
  tool
   .
Here the link for both files ,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g16mlxfsme4rx2/replica_temp.bmp
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfs0b9whu6j7lo/replica_index.bmp
   
Now regarding the high acceptance ratio which is 0.5 , I came
 across
  a
paper (http://www.pnas.org/content/100/13/7587.full.pdf), here
 they
   have
mentioned that their average acceptance ratio ranged between 30 to
   80%. I
have a question here, how did they calculate the range for the
  average
acceptance ratio or is it average ratio for each replica .
 Actually,
   this
is the reference I am following. I am also interested in peptide
   folding
simulation, similar to this article.
   
I want to know, whether the average acceptance ratio that I have
 got
   for
my
trial simulation is correct , together with the replica_temp and
replica_remd plots. Can I proceed for large production runs to
  complete
my
experiment ??
   
   
   
   
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
wrote:
   
   
The interval between the exchange trial affect the efficiency of
  REMD
but
not the the exchange ratio (at least in principle).
   
In you case I am not sure what the plot are showing

Re: [Spam:*****] [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-15 Thread bharat gupta
The plots that I showed in my last mail were for all replicas. I tried
plotting the first 500 ps of replica_index and replica_time files. I think
the plots look fine, and there could be problem with the plotting tool .
Here the link for both files ,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g16mlxfsme4rx2/replica_temp.bmp
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfs0b9whu6j7lo/replica_index.bmp

Now regarding the high acceptance ratio which is 0.5 , I came across a
paper (http://www.pnas.org/content/100/13/7587.full.pdf), here they have
mentioned that their average acceptance ratio ranged between 30 to 80%. I
have a question here, how did they calculate the range for the average
acceptance ratio or is it average ratio for each replica . Actually, this
is the reference I am following. I am also interested in peptide folding
simulation, similar to this article.

I want to know, whether the average acceptance ratio that I have got for my
trial simulation is correct , together with the replica_temp and
replica_remd plots. Can I proceed for large production runs to complete my
experiment ??




On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 The interval between the exchange trial affect the efficiency of REMD but
 not the the exchange ratio (at least in principle).

 In you case I am not sure what the plot are showing! Are these showing all
 the replicas? what are the units?

 On May 14, 2013, at 5:07 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the result for the REMD trial with large temperature gaps.
 
  Temp. distribution : 280.0 294.9 310.7 327.3 344.7 363.1 382.5 402.9
 424.4
  447.1 471.0 496.1 522.6 550.5 579.9 610.8
 
  Out of md16.log :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .38  .43  .43  .36  .45  .40  .37  .48  .47  .45  .47
  .44  .46
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl   50   42   46   52   57   40   58   49   42   53   61   63   56
  57   58
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15
  Repl  .40  .34  .37  .42  .46  .32  .46  .40  .34  .43  .49  .51  .45
  .46  .46
  Average acceptance ratio : 0.46
 
  But, the repli_index.xvg and replica_temp.xvg files still shows that the
  replicas does not exchange equally well .
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkbwpuj7l2o282b/replica_index.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png
 
  what could be wrong in this case?? Is it the mdp file settings or
 implicit
  solvent setting. Does the time to replica to exhange also affects their
  swapping ??
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  You need to increase the temperature gaps indeed if you want acceptance
  ratio ~0.2/0.3. But again this won't work with the water …
 
  It is not clear what happens in your index file but probably a problem
  from grace to plot so many points … you can try to increase the Max
  drawing path length in the preference menu of grace.
 
  On May 13, 2013, at 4:22 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  I repeated the simulation again for 25 replicas with the following
 temp.
  distribution .
 
  280
  289.1
  298.5
  308.2
  318.2
  328.6
  339.3
  350.3
  361.7
  373.5
  385.6
  398.1
  411.1
  424.4
  438.3
  452.5
  467.2
  482.4
  498.1
  514.3
  531.0
  548.3
  566.1
  584.5
  603.5
  623.2
 
  The output of md.log file is :-
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl  .63  .63  .62  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59
  .59
  .60  .60  .61  .62  .62  .63  .64  .64  .65  .65  .66  .66
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl 7822 7752 7816 7760 7639 7628 7511 7442 7375 7332 7312 7424
 7408
  7410 7522 7559 7684 7697 7878 7927 7917 8073 8151 8208 8266
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl  .63  .62  .63  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59
  .59
  .59  .60  .60  .61  .62  .63  .63  .63  .65  .65  .66  .66
 
  The average acceptance ration is around 0.6 which is still high.
 
  The link for replica_temp,replica_index :
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7soajnwc3uww8j/replica_temp.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvx82m4c6cnsfit/replica_index.png
 
  The temp files look better but the index file looks

[gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-13 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I repeated the simulation again for 25 replicas with the following temp.
distribution .

280
289.1
298.5
308.2
318.2
328.6
339.3
350.3
361.7
373.5
385.6
398.1
411.1
424.4
438.3
452.5
467.2
482.4
498.1
514.3
531.0
548.3
566.1
584.5
603.5
623.2

The output of md.log file is :-

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
Repl  .63  .63  .62  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59  .59
.60  .60  .61  .62  .62  .63  .64  .64  .65  .65  .66  .66

Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
Repl 7822 7752 7816 7760 7639 7628 7511 7442 7375 7332 7312 7424 7408
7410 7522 7559 7684 7697 7878 7927 7917 8073 8151 8208 8266

Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
Repl  .63  .62  .63  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59  .59
.59  .60  .60  .61  .62  .63  .63  .63  .65  .65  .66  .66

The average acceptance ration is around 0.6 which is still high.

The link for replica_temp,replica_index :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7soajnwc3uww8j/replica_temp.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvx82m4c6cnsfit/replica_index.png

The temp files look better but the index file looks weird ...

Do i need to experiment with the gap difference in order to get the
required ration of 0.2-0.3 ?? There is some problem with the .mdp file
settings??

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Re: [Spam:*****] [gmx-users] REMD analysis

2013-05-13 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Here's the result for the REMD trial with large temperature gaps.

Temp. distribution : 280.0 294.9 310.7 327.3 344.7 363.1 382.5 402.9 424.4
447.1 471.0 496.1 522.6 550.5 579.9 610.8

Out of md16.log :

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15
Repl  .40  .34  .38  .43  .43  .36  .45  .40  .37  .48  .47  .45  .47
.44  .46

Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15
Repl   50   42   46   52   57   40   58   49   42   53   61   63   56
57   58

Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
13   14   15
Repl  .40  .34  .37  .42  .46  .32  .46  .40  .34  .43  .49  .51  .45
.46  .46
Average acceptance ratio : 0.46

But, the repli_index.xvg and replica_temp.xvg files still shows that the
replicas does not exchange equally well .

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkbwpuj7l2o282b/replica_index.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c8gp584v1hvlbx/replica_temp.png

what could be wrong in this case?? Is it the mdp file settings or implicit
solvent setting. Does the time to replica to exhange also affects their
swapping ??



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 You need to increase the temperature gaps indeed if you want acceptance
 ratio ~0.2/0.3. But again this won't work with the water …

 It is not clear what happens in your index file but probably a problem
 from grace to plot so many points … you can try to increase the Max
 drawing path length in the preference menu of grace.

 On May 13, 2013, at 4:22 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  I repeated the simulation again for 25 replicas with the following temp.
  distribution .
 
  280
  289.1
  298.5
  308.2
  318.2
  328.6
  339.3
  350.3
  361.7
  373.5
  385.6
  398.1
  411.1
  424.4
  438.3
  452.5
  467.2
  482.4
  498.1
  514.3
  531.0
  548.3
  566.1
  584.5
  603.5
  623.2
 
  The output of md.log file is :-
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl  .63  .63  .62  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59  .59
  .60  .60  .61  .62  .62  .63  .64  .64  .65  .65  .66  .66
 
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl 7822 7752 7816 7760 7639 7628 7511 7442 7375 7332 7312 7424 7408
  7410 7522 7559 7684 7697 7878 7927 7917 8073 8151 8208 8266
 
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10   11   12
  13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25
  Repl  .63  .62  .63  .62  .61  .61  .60  .60  .59  .59  .58  .59  .59
  .59  .60  .60  .61  .62  .63  .63  .63  .65  .65  .66  .66
 
  The average acceptance ration is around 0.6 which is still high.
 
  The link for replica_temp,replica_index :
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7soajnwc3uww8j/replica_temp.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvx82m4c6cnsfit/replica_index.png
 
  The temp files look better but the index file looks weird ...
 
  Do i need to experiment with the gap difference in order to get the
  required ration of 0.2-0.3 ?? There is some problem with the .mdp file
  settings??
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD average acceptance ratio

2013-05-11 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Thank you for your reply. I choose the temperature distribution using
t-remd calculator. Here's the link for index and temp files .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m.







On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 The replicas seem indeed to have exchange. Using a colour for the #
 replicas would help.

 I could not access to the first link.

 Note also that the increase of exchange ratio with the temperature suggest
 the distribution of the temperature is not optimal and may be with regular
 intervals? You want to use a exponential distribution.

 On May 10, 2013, at 4:53 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear gmx members,
 
  I have posted the same question previously , but I didn't get any reply.
  So, if anyone can help me out ...
 
  I performed a REMD simulation on a peptide 384 atoms (24 residues). In
  total 11 replicas were simulated for a period of 50ns each. The exchange
  was allwoed at every 1000 steps. The output of md.log file is :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl  .16  .16  .16  .17  .18  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl 2038 2007 2065 2117 2182 2587 3022 3213 3554 3703
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl  .16  .16  .17  .17  .17  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
 
  The acceptance ratio for each replica and average acceptance ratio is as
  calculated below :-
 
 accp. ratio
  2038 0.16304
  2007 0.16056
  2065 0.1652
  2117 0.16936
  2182 0.17456
  2587 0.20696
  3022 0.24176
  3213 0.25704
  3554 0.28432
  3703 0.29624
  0.211904 (avg accp ratio) (Is this value correct ??)
 
  The Pdes used while generating temp. range was also 0.2. Does that mean
  that  replicas have exchanged for the given temp.range ??.  Here's the
 link
  for both remd_temp and remd_index files (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png;cid=1368069857486-810
 )
  , (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?mcid=1368069857486-810
 
  )
 
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD average acceptance ratio

2013-05-11 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

Here's the temperature range that I got form t-remd :
1 300
2 323.7
3 348.75
4 375.23
5 403.22
6 432.83
7 464.14
8 497.24
9 532.26
10 569.32
11 608.51


according the above equation c should be somewhere around 2.37.


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 Well, actually things do not look so good. But is it possible that grace
 is actually no able to plot things correctly? You have line going
 throughout the plot from complete-left to complete-right!

 I am do not know what the t-rems calculator does but apparently it is not
 optimal in your case. Did you try to use the simple rule Tn=T0 x exp(n c),
 where T0 is close to your starting temperature and c is a constant that you
 can tune and will define the spacing between the temperatures. From your
 current data you can guess the spacing and thus the c value you need. Note
 that the exchange ratio is quickly converging in the simulation so you can
 make a few trials …

 On May 11, 2013, at 1:40 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Thank you for your reply. I choose the temperature distribution using
  t-remd calculator. Here's the link for index and temp files .
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  The replicas seem indeed to have exchange. Using a colour for the #
  replicas would help.
 
  I could not access to the first link.
 
  Note also that the increase of exchange ratio with the temperature
 suggest
  the distribution of the temperature is not optimal and may be with
 regular
  intervals? You want to use a exponential distribution.
 
  On May 10, 2013, at 4:53 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear gmx members,
 
  I have posted the same question previously , but I didn't get any
 reply.
  So, if anyone can help me out ...
 
  I performed a REMD simulation on a peptide 384 atoms (24 residues). In
  total 11 replicas were simulated for a period of 50ns each. The
 exchange
  was allwoed at every 1000 steps. The output of md.log file is :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl  .16  .16  .16  .17  .18  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
  Repl  number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl 2038 2007 2065 2117 2182 2587 3022 3213 3554 3703
  Repl  average number of exchanges:
  Repl 0123456789   10
  Repl  .16  .16  .17  .17  .17  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
 
  The acceptance ratio for each replica and average acceptance ratio is
 as
  calculated below :-
 
accp. ratio
  2038 0.16304
  2007 0.16056
  2065 0.1652
  2117 0.16936
  2182 0.17456
  2587 0.20696
  3022 0.24176
  3213 0.25704
  3554 0.28432
  3703 0.29624
  0.211904 (avg accp ratio) (Is this value correct ??)
 
  The Pdes used while generating temp. range was also 0.2. Does that mean
  that  replicas have exchanged for the given temp.range ??.  Here's the
  link
  for both remd_temp and remd_index files (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png;cid=1368069857486-810
  )
  , (
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?mcid=1368069857486-810
 
  )
 
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD average acceptance ratio

2013-05-11 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I tried again with the following temp. ditribution, this time with 30
replicas (280 K -624K) and 500 ps simulation time for each one.

0 280
1 287.8
2 295.9
3 304.2
4 312.7
5 321.5
6 330.5
7 339.8
8 349.3
9 359.1
10 369.1
11 379.5
12 390.1
13 401.0
14 412.3
15 423.8
16 435.7
17 447.9
18 460.4
19 473.3
20 486.6
21 500.2
22 514.3
23 528.7
24 543.5
25 558.7
26 574.4
27 590.4
28 607.0
29 624.0


The output of   md29.log file is :-

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  249 attempts, 125 odd, 124 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12   13
  14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25   26   27   28
  29
Repl  .68  .63  .62  .68  .71  .66  .69  .68  .71  .67  .64  .71  .69
 .71  .66  .69  .73  .73  .72  .73  .69  .71  .71  .74  .73  .70  .72  .74
 .71
Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12   13
  14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25   26   27   28
  29
Repl   81   77   79   90   93   78   91   80   88   78   81   92   96
94   81   83   90   92   83   97   89   87   91   94   88   84   85   89
86
Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10   11   12   13
  14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25   26   27   28
  29
Repl  .65  .62  .63  .73  .74  .63  .73  .65  .70  .63  .65  .74  .77
 .76  .65  .67  .72  .74  .66  .78  .71  .70  .73  .76  .70  .68  .68  .72
 .69


The average acceptance ration comes around 0.69 , which is very high. Now,
in order to get the avg. acceptance ration between 0.2 to 0.3 and also all
the replicas should exchange , what has to be done.

Here's the link for remd_index and remd_temp files
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgpblcdg9zh7f52/remd_temp.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6hvqlqmu64mb2jy/remd_index.png

I want to that if I include water for the simulation, the same temp.
distribution would work or not ??




On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:10 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 You are simulating in vacuo! Otherwise the temperature gaps are way too
 large …

 If you want to analyse the sampling at 300 K, I would suggest you start
 you first temperature lower, around 280/285 may be. At least to have your
 second temperature at 300 K.

 the value of c has absolutely not importance … the temperature
 distribution has … make some test to see how the acceptance ratio evolves …

 On May 11, 2013, at 5:05 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Sir,
 
  Here's the temperature range that I got form t-remd :
  1 300
  2 323.7
  3 348.75
  4 375.23
  5 403.22
  6 432.83
  7 464.14
  8 497.24
  9 532.26
  10 569.32
  11 608.51
 
 
  according the above equation c should be somewhere around 2.37.
 
 
  On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
 wrote:
 
 
  Well, actually things do not look so good. But is it possible that grace
  is actually no able to plot things correctly? You have line going
  throughout the plot from complete-left to complete-right!
 
  I am do not know what the t-rems calculator does but apparently it is
 not
  optimal in your case. Did you try to use the simple rule Tn=T0 x exp(n
 c),
  where T0 is close to your starting temperature and c is a constant that
 you
  can tune and will define the spacing between the temperatures. From your
  current data you can guess the spacing and thus the c value you need.
 Note
  that the exchange ratio is quickly converging in the simulation so you
 can
  make a few trials …
 
  On May 11, 2013, at 1:40 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  Thank you for your reply. I choose the temperature distribution using
  t-remd calculator. Here's the link for index and temp files .
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl
  wrote:
 
 
  The replicas seem indeed to have exchange. Using a colour for the #
  replicas would help.
 
  I could not access to the first link.
 
  Note also that the increase of exchange ratio with the temperature
  suggest
  the distribution of the temperature is not optimal and may be with
  regular
  intervals? You want to use a exponential distribution.
 
  On May 10, 2013, at 4:53 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear gmx members,
 
  I have posted the same question previously , but I didn't get any
  reply.
  So, if anyone can help me out ...
 
  I performed a REMD simulation on a peptide 384 atoms (24 residues).
 In
  total 11 replicas were simulated for a period of 50ns each. The
  exchange
  was allwoed at every 1000 steps. The output of md.log file is :
 
  Replica exchange statistics
  Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
  Repl  average probabilities:
  Repl 0123456789

[gmx-users] Re: REMD average acceptance ratio

2013-05-10 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx members,

I have posted the same question previously , but I didn't get any reply.
So, if anyone can help me out ...

I performed a REMD simulation on a peptide 384 atoms (24 residues). In
total 11 replicas were simulated for a period of 50ns each. The exchange
was allwoed at every 1000 steps. The output of md.log file is :

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl  .16  .16  .16  .17  .18  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl 2038 2007 2065 2117 2182 2587 3022 3213 3554 3703
Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl  .16  .16  .17  .17  .17  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30

The acceptance ratio for each replica and average acceptance ratio is as
calculated below :-

accp. ratio
2038 0.16304
2007 0.16056
2065 0.1652
2117 0.16936
2182 0.17456
2587 0.20696
3022 0.24176
3213 0.25704
3554 0.28432
3703 0.29624
0.211904 (avg accp ratio) (Is this value correct ??)

The Pdes used while generating temp. range was also 0.2. Does that mean
that  replicas have exchanged for the given temp.range ??.  Here's the link
for both remd_temp and remd_index files (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png;cid=1368069857486-810)
, (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?mhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?mcid=1368069857486-810
)

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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-09 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx members,

I performed a REMD simulation on a peptide 384 atoms (24 residues). In
total 11 replicas were simulated for a period of 50ns each. The exchange
was allwoed at every 1000 steps. The output of md.log file is :

Replica exchange statistics
Repl  24999 attempts, 12500 odd, 12499 even
Repl  average probabilities:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl  .16  .16  .16  .17  .18  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30
Repl  number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl 2038 2007 2065 2117 2182 2587 3022 3213 3554 3703
Repl  average number of exchanges:
Repl 0123456789   10
Repl  .16  .16  .17  .17  .17  .21  .24  .26  .28  .30

The acceptance ratio for each replica and average acceptance ratio is as
calculated below :-

accp. ratio
2038 0.16304
2007 0.16056
2065 0.1652
2117 0.16936
2182 0.17456
2587 0.20696
3022 0.24176
3213 0.25704
3554 0.28432
3703 0.29624
0.211904 (avg accp ratio)

The Pdes used while generating temp. range was also 0.2. Does that mean
that  replicas have exchanged for the given temp.range ??.  Here's the link
for both remd_temp and remd_index files (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uvwsdqjix49lg93/remd_index.png) , (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/78vcnaxzpgeekti/remd_temp.png?m)

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[gmx-users] Gromacs mpi error while running REMD

2013-05-01 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx-users,

I got the following error after issuing the final command for running 12
replicas :-

[bme:42039] *** Process received signal ***
[bme:42039] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[bme:42039] Signal code: Invalid permissions (2)
[bme:42039] Failing at address: 0x7f093b655340
[bme:42039] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0() [0x329220f500]
[bme:42039] [ 1]
/opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(nb_kernel_allvsallgb_sse2_single+0x2337)
[0x7f093c281fa7]
[bme:42039] [ 2] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(do_nonbonded+0xa96)
[0x7f093c2175d6]
[bme:42039] [ 3] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force_lowlevel+0x2fa)
[0x7f093ca47b3a]
[bme:42039] [ 4] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force+0xeb7)
[0x7f093cadc6f7]
[bme:42039] [ 5] mdrun(do_md+0x6a45) [0x42c245]
[bme:42039] [ 6] mdrun(mdrunner+0xa59) [0x421309]
[bme:42039] [ 7] mdrun(main+0x12fd) [0x4317dd]
[bme:42039] [ 8] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x329161ecdd]
[bme:42039] [ 9] mdrun() [0x405a29]
[bme:42039] *** End of error message ***
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
[bme:42036] *** Process received signal ***
[bme:42036] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[bme:42036] Signal code: Invalid permissions (2)
[bme:42036] Failing at address: 0x7f794bbe3800
[bme:42036] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0() [0x329220f500]
[bme:42036] [ 1]
/opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(nb_kernel_allvsallgb_sse2_single+0x13e2)
[0x7f794c4b8052]
[bme:42036] [ 2] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(do_nonbonded+0xa96)
[0x7f794c44e5d6]
[bme:42036] [ 3] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force_lowlevel+0x2fa)
[0x7f794cc7eb3a]
[bme:42036] [ 4] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force+0xeb7)
[0x7f794cd136f7]
[bme:42036] [ 5] mdrun(do_md+0x6a45) [0x42c245]
[bme:42036] [ 6] mdrun(mdrunner+0xa59) [0x421309]
[bme:42036] [ 7] mdrun(main+0x12fd) [0x4317dd]
[bme:42036] [ 8] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x329161ecdd]
[bme:42036] [ 9] mdrun() [0x405a29]
[bme:42036] *** End of error message ***
[bme:42042] *** Process received signal ***
[bme:42042] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[bme:42042] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[bme:42042] Failing at address: 0x7f119c3b96b0
[bme:42042] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0() [0x329220f500]
[bme:42042] [ 1]
/opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(nb_kernel_allvsallgb_sse2_single+0x1345)
[0x7f11972e2fb5]
[bme:42042] [ 2] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6(do_nonbonded+0xa96)
[0x7f11972795d6]
[bme:42042] [ 3] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force_lowlevel+0x2fa)
[0x7f1197aa9b3a]
[bme:42042] [ 4] /opt/bio/gromacs/lib/libmd_mpi.so.6(do_force+0xeb7)
[0x7f1197b3e6f7]
[bme:42042] [ 5] mdrun(do_md+0x6a45) [0x42c245]
[bme:42042] [ 6] mdrun(mdrunner+0xa59) [0x421309]
[bme:42042] [ 7] mdrun(main+0x12fd) [0x4317dd]
[bme:42042] [ 8] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x329161ecdd]
[bme:42042] [ 9] mdrun() [0x405a29]
[bme:42042] *** End of error message ***



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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-24 Thread bharat gupta
I think it should be me who should be sorry. I should have asked the
question again in the forum without referring to some particular
individual.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:30 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 2013/4/24 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu

 
 
  I haven't said anything because I agree with what Massimo has already
 told
  you.  If that is comforting in some way to know, then so be it, but I
 think
  it is rather rude to suggest that you would rather someone else answer
 your
  question, even after being given thorough and correct insight.  This is a
  community forum with many experts who have valuable insight to share.
 

 Well, he couldn't know that my insight was right (honestly, I was expecting
 to be corrected!). I think he did right by trying to be double-sure, I
 don't feel offended by it :)
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[gmx-users] Re: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx users,

I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system
(27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want to
select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some temp
distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that we can use
the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K here ??

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[gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx users,

I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system
(27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want to
select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some temp
distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that we can use
the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K here ??


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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but how to
select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know that


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/



 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  Dear gmx users,
 
  I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system
  (27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want to
  select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some temp
  distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that we can
 use
  the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K here ??
 
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this link to
generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56 replicas only, as I
have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides 220
temperature values :

300.00, 301.01, 302.02, 303.04, 304.06, 305.08, 306.11, 307.14, 308.17,
309.20, 310.24, 311.27, 312.32, 313.36, 314.40, 315.45, 316.50, 317.56,
318.61, 319.68, 320.74, 321.81, 322.88, 323.95, 325.02, 326.10, 327.18,
328.26, 329.35, 330.44, 331.53, 332.63, 333.72, 334.83, 335.93, 337.04,
338.15, 339.26, 340.37, 341.49, 342.61, 343.74, 344.87, 346.00, 347.13,
348.27, 349.41, 350.55, 351.69, 352.85, 354.00, 355.15, 356.31, 357.47,
358.63, 359.80, 360.97, 362.14, 363.32, 364.49, 365.68, 366.86, 368.05,
369.24, 370.44, 371.64, 372.84, 374.05, 375.26, 376.47, 377.68, 378.90,
380.12, 381.34, 382.57, 383.80, 385.03, 386.27, 387.51, 388.75, 390.00,
391.25, 392.51, 393.76, 395.02, 396.29, 397.56, 398.83, 400.10, 401.38,
402.68, 403.96, 405.25, 406.54, 407.84, 409.14, 410.44, 411.74, 413.05,
414.40, 415.71, 417.03, 418.36, 419.68, 421.01, 422.35, 423.68, 425.03,
426.37, 427.72, 429.07, 430.43, 431.79, 433.15, 434.52, 435.89, 437.26,
438.64, 440.02, 441.40, 442.79, 444.18, 445.58, 446.98, 448.38, 449.79,
451.20, 452.62, 454.03, 455.46, 456.88, 458.31, 459.75, 461.18, 462.63,
464.08, 465.53, 466.99, 468.45, 469.91, 471.38, 472.85, 474.32, 475.80,
477.28, 478.76, 480.25, 481.74, 483.24, 484.74, 486.25, 487.76, 489.27,
490.79, 492.31, 493.83, 495.36, 496.90, 498.43, 499.97, 501.52, 503.07,
504.63, 506.18, 507.78, 509.34, 510.91, 512.49, 514.07, 515.65, 517.24,
518.83, 520.43, 522.03, 523.64, 525.25, 526.86, 528.48, 530.10, 531.73,
533.36, 535.00, 536.63, 538.27, 539.92, 541.58, 543.23, 544.90, 546.56,
548.23, 549.90, 551.58, 553.27, 554.96, 556.65, 558.35, 560.06, 561.76,
563.48, 565.19, 566.92, 568.65, 570.38, 572.11, 573.85, 575.60, 577.47,
579.23, 580.99, 582.76, 584.52, 586.30, 588.08, 589.86, 591.65, 593.44,
595.24, 597.04, 598.85, 600.66


Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange ...


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't understand your question. If you got the temperature distribution,
 what else do you need?


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but how to
  select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know that
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
  
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
Dear gmx users,
   
I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system
(27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want
 to
select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some temp
distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that we
 can
   use
the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K here ??
   

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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be possible to
observe any folding event ??


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks, now it's clearer.

  Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange ...

 You can't, I would say. The system you have requires so many replicas to
 exchange properly from the two temperature extremes you set up. As you have
 seen, if you pick up temperatures in that range randomly, they can't
 exchange anymore. They are too far away.

 I would choose a smaller temperature range. There is little else you can
 do, I think.


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this link to
  generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56 replicas only,
 as I
  have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides 220
  temperature values :
 
  300.00, 301.01, 302.02, 303.04, 304.06, 305.08, 306.11, 307.14, 308.17,
  309.20, 310.24, 311.27, 312.32, 313.36, 314.40, 315.45, 316.50, 317.56,
  318.61, 319.68, 320.74, 321.81, 322.88, 323.95, 325.02, 326.10, 327.18,
  328.26, 329.35, 330.44, 331.53, 332.63, 333.72, 334.83, 335.93, 337.04,
  338.15, 339.26, 340.37, 341.49, 342.61, 343.74, 344.87, 346.00, 347.13,
  348.27, 349.41, 350.55, 351.69, 352.85, 354.00, 355.15, 356.31, 357.47,
  358.63, 359.80, 360.97, 362.14, 363.32, 364.49, 365.68, 366.86, 368.05,
  369.24, 370.44, 371.64, 372.84, 374.05, 375.26, 376.47, 377.68, 378.90,
  380.12, 381.34, 382.57, 383.80, 385.03, 386.27, 387.51, 388.75, 390.00,
  391.25, 392.51, 393.76, 395.02, 396.29, 397.56, 398.83, 400.10, 401.38,
  402.68, 403.96, 405.25, 406.54, 407.84, 409.14, 410.44, 411.74, 413.05,
  414.40, 415.71, 417.03, 418.36, 419.68, 421.01, 422.35, 423.68, 425.03,
  426.37, 427.72, 429.07, 430.43, 431.79, 433.15, 434.52, 435.89, 437.26,
  438.64, 440.02, 441.40, 442.79, 444.18, 445.58, 446.98, 448.38, 449.79,
  451.20, 452.62, 454.03, 455.46, 456.88, 458.31, 459.75, 461.18, 462.63,
  464.08, 465.53, 466.99, 468.45, 469.91, 471.38, 472.85, 474.32, 475.80,
  477.28, 478.76, 480.25, 481.74, 483.24, 484.74, 486.25, 487.76, 489.27,
  490.79, 492.31, 493.83, 495.36, 496.90, 498.43, 499.97, 501.52, 503.07,
  504.63, 506.18, 507.78, 509.34, 510.91, 512.49, 514.07, 515.65, 517.24,
  518.83, 520.43, 522.03, 523.64, 525.25, 526.86, 528.48, 530.10, 531.73,
  533.36, 535.00, 536.63, 538.27, 539.92, 541.58, 543.23, 544.90, 546.56,
  548.23, 549.90, 551.58, 553.27, 554.96, 556.65, 558.35, 560.06, 561.76,
  563.48, 565.19, 566.92, 568.65, 570.38, 572.11, 573.85, 575.60, 577.47,
  579.23, 580.99, 582.76, 584.52, 586.30, 588.08, 589.86, 591.65, 593.44,
  595.24, 597.04, 598.85, 600.66
 
 
  Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange ...
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   I don't understand your question. If you got the temperature
  distribution,
   what else do you need?
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but how
 to
select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know
 that
   
   
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, massimo sandal 
  deviceran...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/



 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  Dear gmx users,
 
  I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent
  system
  (27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I
  want
   to
  select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some
  temp
  distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that
 we
   can
 use
  the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K here
 ??
 
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
So, my final question is whether is possible to do REMD for my system,
using the computational resource that I have.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 Who knows? It depends on the size of your peptide, on the energy landscape,
 on how long is the run you plan to do. I would bet on no, however.


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be possible to
  observe any folding event ??
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks, now it's clearer.
  
Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange
 ...
  
   You can't, I would say. The system you have requires so many replicas
 to
   exchange properly from the two temperature extremes you set up. As you
  have
   seen, if you pick up temperatures in that range randomly, they can't
   exchange anymore. They are too far away.
  
   I would choose a smaller temperature range. There is little else you
 can
   do, I think.
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this link to
generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56 replicas
 only,
   as I
have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides 220
temperature values :
   
300.00, 301.01, 302.02, 303.04, 304.06, 305.08, 306.11, 307.14,
 308.17,
309.20, 310.24, 311.27, 312.32, 313.36, 314.40, 315.45, 316.50,
 317.56,
318.61, 319.68, 320.74, 321.81, 322.88, 323.95, 325.02, 326.10,
 327.18,
328.26, 329.35, 330.44, 331.53, 332.63, 333.72, 334.83, 335.93,
 337.04,
338.15, 339.26, 340.37, 341.49, 342.61, 343.74, 344.87, 346.00,
 347.13,
348.27, 349.41, 350.55, 351.69, 352.85, 354.00, 355.15, 356.31,
 357.47,
358.63, 359.80, 360.97, 362.14, 363.32, 364.49, 365.68, 366.86,
 368.05,
369.24, 370.44, 371.64, 372.84, 374.05, 375.26, 376.47, 377.68,
 378.90,
380.12, 381.34, 382.57, 383.80, 385.03, 386.27, 387.51, 388.75,
 390.00,
391.25, 392.51, 393.76, 395.02, 396.29, 397.56, 398.83, 400.10,
 401.38,
402.68, 403.96, 405.25, 406.54, 407.84, 409.14, 410.44, 411.74,
 413.05,
414.40, 415.71, 417.03, 418.36, 419.68, 421.01, 422.35, 423.68,
 425.03,
426.37, 427.72, 429.07, 430.43, 431.79, 433.15, 434.52, 435.89,
 437.26,
438.64, 440.02, 441.40, 442.79, 444.18, 445.58, 446.98, 448.38,
 449.79,
451.20, 452.62, 454.03, 455.46, 456.88, 458.31, 459.75, 461.18,
 462.63,
464.08, 465.53, 466.99, 468.45, 469.91, 471.38, 472.85, 474.32,
 475.80,
477.28, 478.76, 480.25, 481.74, 483.24, 484.74, 486.25, 487.76,
 489.27,
490.79, 492.31, 493.83, 495.36, 496.90, 498.43, 499.97, 501.52,
 503.07,
504.63, 506.18, 507.78, 509.34, 510.91, 512.49, 514.07, 515.65,
 517.24,
518.83, 520.43, 522.03, 523.64, 525.25, 526.86, 528.48, 530.10,
 531.73,
533.36, 535.00, 536.63, 538.27, 539.92, 541.58, 543.23, 544.90,
 546.56,
548.23, 549.90, 551.58, 553.27, 554.96, 556.65, 558.35, 560.06,
 561.76,
563.48, 565.19, 566.92, 568.65, 570.38, 572.11, 573.85, 575.60,
 577.47,
579.23, 580.99, 582.76, 584.52, 586.30, 588.08, 589.86, 591.65,
 593.44,
595.24, 597.04, 598.85, 600.66
   
   
Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange
 ...
   
   
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM, massimo sandal 
  deviceran...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 I don't understand your question. If you got the temperature
distribution,
 what else do you need?


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but
 how
   to
  select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know
   that
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, massimo sandal 
deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
  
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
Dear gmx users,
   
I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent
system
(27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to
 500. I
want
 to
select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose
 some
temp
distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know
  that
   we
 can
   use
the formula  Ti=T0*ek*i, but what is the value for i and K
 here
   ??
   

BHARAT
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks a lot for your prompt responses. By using implicit solvent , I am
getting on 9 temperature values. I think this should work , I will try it
out. Also, i checked that when the no. of water molecules are reduced , the
no. of temp. values are also reduced. If I reduce the no. of water
molecules or reduce the size of box , will it help. As of now I am using
octahedron box.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:43 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 It depends on what you want to do. Possible it is certainly possible, but
 you can't be guaranteed to observe the conformational changes you desire to
 observe. Again, it does not depend only on the REMD, but also on the length
 of it. How long will it be? 10 ns? 100? 1000? 10.000? Plus, it also depends
 on your system itself -and this you cannot know without trying.

 If you want to improve sampling beyond what standard REMD can do, to
 exploit your computational resources at the best, you can look into other
 approaches like solute tempering (
 http://www.pnas.org/content/102/39/13749.abstract ), or metadynamics (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadynamics ). However I advise you to study
 *well* this kind of things, talk with experts in these techniques,  and
 remember that there is no guarantee any of them will bring the result you
 want. Good luck! :)




 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  So, my final question is whether is possible to do REMD for my system,
  using the computational resource that I have.
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Who knows? It depends on the size of your peptide, on the energy
  landscape,
   on how long is the run you plan to do. I would bet on no, however.
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be possible to
observe any folding event ??
   
   
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, massimo sandal 
  deviceran...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Thanks, now it's clearer.

  Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can
 exchange
   ...

 You can't, I would say. The system you have requires so many
 replicas
   to
 exchange properly from the two temperature extremes you set up. As
  you
have
 seen, if you pick up temperatures in that range randomly, they
 can't
 exchange anymore. They are too far away.

 I would choose a smaller temperature range. There is little else
 you
   can
 do, I think.


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this
 link
  to
  generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56 replicas
   only,
 as I
  have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides 220
  temperature values :
 
  300.00, 301.01, 302.02, 303.04, 304.06, 305.08, 306.11, 307.14,
   308.17,
  309.20, 310.24, 311.27, 312.32, 313.36, 314.40, 315.45, 316.50,
   317.56,
  318.61, 319.68, 320.74, 321.81, 322.88, 323.95, 325.02, 326.10,
   327.18,
  328.26, 329.35, 330.44, 331.53, 332.63, 333.72, 334.83, 335.93,
   337.04,
  338.15, 339.26, 340.37, 341.49, 342.61, 343.74, 344.87, 346.00,
   347.13,
  348.27, 349.41, 350.55, 351.69, 352.85, 354.00, 355.15, 356.31,
   357.47,
  358.63, 359.80, 360.97, 362.14, 363.32, 364.49, 365.68, 366.86,
   368.05,
  369.24, 370.44, 371.64, 372.84, 374.05, 375.26, 376.47, 377.68,
   378.90,
  380.12, 381.34, 382.57, 383.80, 385.03, 386.27, 387.51, 388.75,
   390.00,
  391.25, 392.51, 393.76, 395.02, 396.29, 397.56, 398.83, 400.10,
   401.38,
  402.68, 403.96, 405.25, 406.54, 407.84, 409.14, 410.44, 411.74,
   413.05,
  414.40, 415.71, 417.03, 418.36, 419.68, 421.01, 422.35, 423.68,
   425.03,
  426.37, 427.72, 429.07, 430.43, 431.79, 433.15, 434.52, 435.89,
   437.26,
  438.64, 440.02, 441.40, 442.79, 444.18, 445.58, 446.98, 448.38,
   449.79,
  451.20, 452.62, 454.03, 455.46, 456.88, 458.31, 459.75, 461.18,
   462.63,
  464.08, 465.53, 466.99, 468.45, 469.91, 471.38, 472.85, 474.32,
   475.80,
  477.28, 478.76, 480.25, 481.74, 483.24, 484.74, 486.25, 487.76,
   489.27,
  490.79, 492.31, 493.83, 495.36, 496.90, 498.43, 499.97, 501.52,
   503.07,
  504.63, 506.18, 507.78, 509.34, 510.91, 512.49, 514.07, 515.65,
   517.24,
  518.83, 520.43, 522.03, 523.64, 525.25, 526.86, 528.48, 530.10,
   531.73,
  533.36, 535.00, 536.63, 538.27, 539.92, 541.58, 543.23, 544.90,
   546.56,
  548.23, 549.90, 551.58, 553.27, 554.96, 556.65, 558.35, 560.06,
   561.76,
  563.48, 565.19, 566.92, 568.65, 570.38, 572.11, 573.85, 575.60,
   577.47,
  579.23, 580.99, 582.76, 584.52, 586.30, 588.08, 589.86, 591.65,
   593.44,
  595.24, 597.04, 598.85, 600.66
 
 
  Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can
 exchange
   ...
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Justin/Mark,

I have asked this question previously in the forum, I got some reply from
other members. It will be more useful if you can provide you expert
comments on the same. I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+
solvent system (27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to
500. I want to select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas (as I have 56
processors available). I used the t-remd calculator for temp. generation.
It provided some 200 temp. values. Here are my questions :
1. Is it possible to select equally spaced temp. values from those values ??
2. I checked that reducing the no. of water mol. decreases the temp.
values. What if I reduce the no. of water mol., will if affect the
simulation ??



On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.comwrote:

 In general, the smaller is your system, the less temperatures you will need
 (and you'll have better performance).

 Notice however that implicit solvent, while surely a possibility worth
 considering, is not usually considered to be very good -take care that if
 you write a paper from implicit solvent results, reviewers might not be
 happy. There is a chance that the results coming out of your simulation
 might be nonsense. Discuss this choice with your supervisor and/or with
 expert colleagues who know about limitations of implicit solvent. You need
 to be able to justify your choice scientifically -for example testing it
 with a known,similar system and observing that implicit solvent reproduces
 the behaviour of that system in explicit solvent well.

 About reducing the box size, by all means try it, but always make sure it
 is large enough to avoid that the periodic copies of your molecule see each
 other. See

 http://ringo.ams.sunysb.edu/index.php/MD_Simulation:_Protein_in_Water#Box_Preparationand
 be sure to understand it.


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  Thanks a lot for your prompt responses. By using implicit solvent , I am
  getting on 9 temperature values. I think this should work , I will try it
  out. Also, i checked that when the no. of water molecules are reduced ,
 the
  no. of temp. values are also reduced. If I reduce the no. of water
  molecules or reduce the size of box , will it help. As of now I am using
  octahedron box.
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:43 PM, massimo sandal deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   It depends on what you want to do. Possible it is certainly possible,
 but
   you can't be guaranteed to observe the conformational changes you
 desire
  to
   observe. Again, it does not depend only on the REMD, but also on the
  length
   of it. How long will it be? 10 ns? 100? 1000? 10.000? Plus, it also
  depends
   on your system itself -and this you cannot know without trying.
  
   If you want to improve sampling beyond what standard REMD can do, to
   exploit your computational resources at the best, you can look into
 other
   approaches like solute tempering (
   http://www.pnas.org/content/102/39/13749.abstract ), or metadynamics (
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadynamics ). However I advise you to
  study
   *well* this kind of things, talk with experts in these techniques,  and
   remember that there is no guarantee any of them will bring the result
 you
   want. Good luck! :)
  
  
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
So, my final question is whether is possible to do REMD for my
 system,
using the computational resource that I have.
   
   
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, massimo sandal 
  deviceran...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Who knows? It depends on the size of your peptide, on the energy
landscape,
 on how long is the run you plan to do. I would bet on no,
 however.


 2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com

  But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be
 possible
  to
  observe any folding event ??
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, massimo sandal 
deviceran...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks, now it's clearer.
  
Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can
   exchange
 ...
  
   You can't, I would say. The system you have requires so many
   replicas
 to
   exchange properly from the two temperature extremes you set up.
  As
you
  have
   seen, if you pick up temperatures in that range randomly, they
   can't
   exchange anymore. They are too far away.
  
   I would choose a smaller temperature range. There is little
 else
   you
 can
   do, I think.
  
  
   2013/4/23 bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  
Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this
   link
to
generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56
  replicas
 only,
   as I
have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides
  220
temperature values

Re: [gmx-users] Green fluorescent protein's chromophore

2012-12-05 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

You can refer this paper for the topology
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp014476w.

---
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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users!


 I'm looking for the model as well as for the pre-paired topology for
 any kind of GFP protein with the chromophore group covaletnly bonded
 in the interiour of that protein.

 Some times ago I've tried to make such models by hands but I've forced
 with some difficulties with the integration of the chromophore group
 to the existing GROMOS force field parameter files. In that case I had
 .itp for the chromophore group made by PRODRG which I've failed to
 convert to the rtp and integrate to other files in accordance to the

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field

 So I'll be very thankfull if any could provide me with such model as
 well as suitable topology which I could use as the example for
 preparation of my future models :)


 Thanks for help

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculate Density with respect to time...

2012-09-29 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

There's a plugin in VMD called volmap which I think can be used for this
kind of analysis.



Bharat


On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM, rama david ramadavidgr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Gromacs Users,

I did simulation of two random coil peptides for 100ns.
  after 70 ns these peptide get converted to anti parallel beta sheet
 structure.
  I am interested to see the water density in between these peptides w.r.t.
 to time change
  And at the same time the distance between the peptide..

 I found out the distance between peptide by g_mindist
  but I not found the appropriate way to calculate density of water with
 respect to time
 between two peptides..

 I used g_density but it not gave me the information as per my need.


 Is there any way to solve these problem.

 Thank you in advance..

 With best wishes and regards..

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[gmx-users] Peptide folding simulation

2012-07-08 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,


I have been trying to study folding of a peptide 24 residues long. I
did  a  simulation of 50 ns with explicit solvent, CHARMM FF, but I
was not able to find even a single folding event. Then I decided use
explicit solvent for simulation and I again simulated the peptide for
100 ns . This time again I ended with no folding events.


 I know that in case of explicit solvent , a 50ns simulation time is
not enough to observe anything. But I did it to see the initial
behavior of the peptide in water. In take many random like
conformation but doesnot fold into a desired beta-hairpin. For the
explicit solvent simulation, I followed the lysozyme tutorial
parameters.

For implicit solvent simulation, I used the following parameters for
Energy minimization  :

 define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
 constraints =  none
 integrator  =  steep
 dt  =  0.001; ps
 nsteps  =  3
 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off
 pbc =  no
 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off),
which   gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0
 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  Protein
 optimize_fft=  yes
 ;
 ;   Energy minimizing stuff
 ;
 emtol   =  5.0
 emstep  =  0.01
 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born  radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit  solvent
  ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent  models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = -1



For MD I used the following : -


define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
 constraints =  none
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.001   ; ps
 nsteps  =  10 ; 10 ps = 100 ns
 nstcomm =  10
 nstcalcenergy   =  10
 nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
 trajectory
 nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
 nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
 trajectory
 nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
 file
 nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off

 pbc =  no

 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
 gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0

 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  system

 optimize_fft=  yes

 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
 tau_t   =  0.1
 tc_grps =  system
 ref_t   =  300
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 Pcoupl  =  no
 ; Generate velocites is on
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300
 gen_seed=  -1

 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80; Dielectric constant for the implicit   solvent
 ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = -1

So, finally I want to know where have I gone in my simulation
experiments, both implicit and explicit ?? ... Please reply .





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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2012-06-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried restraining two residues of my peptide . The restraints were added
after dihedrals in the top file. Here's how the .top file looks :

[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3
   16 41817 2
   18162019 2
   25222726 2
   25272226 2
   27252928 2
   27252829 2
   30203231 2
   32303433 2
   37343938 2
   39374140 2
   48465049 2
   48504649 2
   50485251 2
   50524851 2
   52475053 2
   52504753 2
   54415655 2

[ dihedral_restraints ]
; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  dphi  kfac  power
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  16   18 2030 1  1  -60 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  18   2030  32 1  1  -30 0 5  2
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  30   32 3437 1  1  -90 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  323437  39  17 1  1  0 0 5  2


I am getting the following error when I used the grompp command :-

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1631

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 4, expected 5 or 5 for Dih. Rest..
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
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Where did I do the mistake , can anybody guide me in this regard ?? , Also
I don't know what should be the value for power and kfac , what I need is
that the angles should be restrained to what I mentioned in file.

Regards

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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2012-06-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried restraining two residues of my peptide . The restraints were added
after dihedrals in the top file. Here's how the .top file looks :

[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3
   16 41817 2
   18162019 2
   25222726 2
   25272226 2
   27252928 2
   27252829 2
   30203231 2
   32303433 2
   37343938 2
   39374140 2
   48465049 2
   48504649 2
   50485251 2
   50524851 2
   52475053 2
   52504753 2
   54415655 2

[ dihedral_restraints ]
; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  dphi  kfac  power
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  16   18 2030 1  1  -60 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  18   2030  32 1  1  -30 0 5  2
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  30   32 3437 1  1  -90 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  323437  39  17 1  1  0 0 5  2


I am getting the following error when I used the grompp command :-

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1631

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 4, expected 5 or 5 for Dih. Rest..
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

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Where did I do the mistake , can anybody guide me in this regard ?? , Also
I don't know what should be the value for power and kfac , what I need is
that the angles should be restrained to what I mentioned in file.

Regards

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-15 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

This query is related to my previous queries. I want to constraint the
psi/psi angle of the turn residue of my beta-hairpin , meaning that they
are allowed to move in certain range of psi/phi angle space.
Simultaneously, I want to freeze the movement of strand residues. This
procedure has to  be followed during minimization alone. From the previous
answers to my queries I understood how to constrain dihedral space, but I
don't know how to fix the movement of strand residues ?? ... any help will
be highly appreciated.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry for the last reply, I wrote turns with different sequences wrongly,
 it's actually the turn with different dihedral constraints. I searched the
 gromacs user list , where I found this link , regarding calculation of
 dihedral energy of selected residues.  I want to know whether this method
 would be useful ??


 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 14/06/2012 4:57 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 I am not going to compare this with anything , I have to look for
 sequences and their corresponding energies and select the lowest scoring
 ones.


 You can't compare total energies of different sequences and get a
 meaningful answer. What's the difference in energy between an apple and an
 orange mean? You can compare the average energy of an apple cut into pieces
 with the average energy of a whole apple, but that doesn't necessarily
 relate to the same quantity measured for an orange, either. There's a lot
 of work in measuring a decent *free* energy difference between some states.


  I request you to kindly elaborate on freezing some portion of the
 protein. ( I am bit confused as in my case I am fixing the dihedral of turn
 residues which means constraining them simultaneously I want to freeze the
 other region of the protein. )


 You need to read the link I gave last time and use constraints and
 restraints in the accepted GROMACS sense in order for people to be able
 to understand your meaning clearly. There are links there to the kind of
 methods that are available. I think you need to do some reading and
 thinking about those :-) If you lock down all the degrees of freedom then
 you can't measure anything relevant.


 Mark



 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 14/06/2012 4:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks Sir for the reply... This question is related to my first query
 that if we constraint the dihedral of the turn residue how can we
 fix/freeze the movement of other residues.



 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Constraints_and_Restraints


  As I am interested in only getting the energy of the hairpin when the
 turn residues are constrained within a particular phi psi angle range


  .. and with what are you going to compare those energies? And what will
 that comparison mean?

 Mark




 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 14/06/2012 12:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for the reply . Is it possible to calculate the dihedral energy
 of certain residues, like in my case for turn residues ??.. How can that 
 be
 done


  First, seek to define dihedral energy... Force fields are not
 parametrized such that parts of them are expected to correlate with
 observables.



 This another question is regarding energy minimization. Suppose, I
 minimize the the protein solvated in water, the energy value that I get is
 for the whole system or for the protein alone. If it's for the system then
 how can I get the energy for the protein alone.


  You can define energy groups (see manual) to do this for the nonbonded
 contributions. Bonded contributions are easy to do in your case. Whether
 this energy is useful for anything is quite another matter.

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-14 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks Sir for the reply... This question is related to my first query that
if we constraint the dihedral of the turn residue how can we fix/freeze the
movement of other residues. As I am interested in only getting the energy
of the hairpin when the turn residues are constrained within a particular
phi psi angle range


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 14/06/2012 12:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for the reply . Is it possible to calculate the dihedral energy of
 certain residues, like in my case for turn residues ??.. How can that be
 done


 First, seek to define dihedral energy... Force fields are not
 parametrized such that parts of them are expected to correlate with
 observables.



 This another question is regarding energy minimization. Suppose, I
 minimize the the protein solvated in water, the energy value that I get is
 for the whole system or for the protein alone. If it's for the system then
 how can I get the energy for the protein alone.


 You can define energy groups (see manual) to do this for the nonbonded
 contributions. Bonded contributions are easy to do in your case. Whether
 this energy is useful for anything is quite another matter.

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-14 Thread bharat gupta
I am not going to compare this with anything , I have to look for sequences
and their corresponding energies and select the lowest scoring ones. I
request you to kindly elaborate on freezing some portion of the protein. (
I am bit confused as in my case I am fixing the dihedral of turn residues
which means constraining them simultaneously I want to freeze the other
region of the protein. )


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 14/06/2012 4:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks Sir for the reply... This question is related to my first query
 that if we constraint the dihedral of the turn residue how can we
 fix/freeze the movement of other residues.


 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Constraints_and_Restraints


  As I am interested in only getting the energy of the hairpin when the
 turn residues are constrained within a particular phi psi angle range


 .. and with what are you going to compare those energies? And what will
 that comparison mean?

 Mark




 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 14/06/2012 12:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for the reply . Is it possible to calculate the dihedral energy
 of certain residues, like in my case for turn residues ??.. How can that be
 done


  First, seek to define dihedral energy... Force fields are not
 parametrized such that parts of them are expected to correlate with
 observables.



 This another question is regarding energy minimization. Suppose, I
 minimize the the protein solvated in water, the energy value that I get is
 for the whole system or for the protein alone. If it's for the system then
 how can I get the energy for the protein alone.


  You can define energy groups (see manual) to do this for the nonbonded
 contributions. Bonded contributions are easy to do in your case. Whether
 this energy is useful for anything is quite another matter.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-14 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry for the last reply, I wrote turns with different sequences wrongly,
it's actually the turn with different dihedral constraints. I searched the
gromacs user list , where I found this link , regarding calculation of
dihedral energy of selected residues.  I want to know whether this method
would be useful ??

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 14/06/2012 4:57 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 I am not going to compare this with anything , I have to look for
 sequences and their corresponding energies and select the lowest scoring
 ones.


 You can't compare total energies of different sequences and get a
 meaningful answer. What's the difference in energy between an apple and an
 orange mean? You can compare the average energy of an apple cut into pieces
 with the average energy of a whole apple, but that doesn't necessarily
 relate to the same quantity measured for an orange, either. There's a lot
 of work in measuring a decent *free* energy difference between some states.


  I request you to kindly elaborate on freezing some portion of the
 protein. ( I am bit confused as in my case I am fixing the dihedral of turn
 residues which means constraining them simultaneously I want to freeze the
 other region of the protein. )


 You need to read the link I gave last time and use constraints and
 restraints in the accepted GROMACS sense in order for people to be able
 to understand your meaning clearly. There are links there to the kind of
 methods that are available. I think you need to do some reading and
 thinking about those :-) If you lock down all the degrees of freedom then
 you can't measure anything relevant.


 Mark



 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 14/06/2012 4:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks Sir for the reply... This question is related to my first query
 that if we constraint the dihedral of the turn residue how can we
 fix/freeze the movement of other residues.



 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Constraints_and_Restraints


  As I am interested in only getting the energy of the hairpin when the
 turn residues are constrained within a particular phi psi angle range


  .. and with what are you going to compare those energies? And what will
 that comparison mean?

 Mark




 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 14/06/2012 12:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for the reply . Is it possible to calculate the dihedral energy
 of certain residues, like in my case for turn residues ??.. How can that be
 done


  First, seek to define dihedral energy... Force fields are not
 parametrized such that parts of them are expected to correlate with
 observables.



 This another question is regarding energy minimization. Suppose, I
 minimize the the protein solvated in water, the energy value that I get is
 for the whole system or for the protein alone. If it's for the system then
 how can I get the energy for the protein alone.


  You can define energy groups (see manual) to do this for the nonbonded
 contributions. Bonded contributions are easy to do in your case. Whether
 this energy is useful for anything is quite another matter.

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[gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-13 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I wanted to simulate a beta-hairpin but with the dihedral angle of the turn
residues constrained as per my wish for eg phi angle should not 60 and psi
should be 90. Can anybody tell me how can I do this ??


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Dihedral Constraints

2012-06-13 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for the reply . Is it possible to calculate the dihedral energy of
certain residues, like in my case for turn residues ??.. How can that be
done

This another question is regarding energy minimization. Suppose, I minimize
the the protein solvated in water, the energy value that I get is for the
whole system or for the protein alone. If it's for the system then how can
I get the energy for the protein alone.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/13/12 9:44 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to simulate a beta-hairpin but with the dihedral angle of the
 turn
 residues constrained as per my wish for eg phi angle should not 60 and psi
 should be 90. Can anybody tell me how can I do this ??


 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/**Dihedral_Restraintshttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Dihedral_Restraints

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[gmx-users] MPI installation

2012-04-07 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying to enable mpi fro mdrun in an already installed gromacs-4.5.5.
But while executing the command make mdrun , I am getting the following
errorn:-
mv -f .deps/xlate.Tpo .deps/xlate.Plo
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link mpicc  -O3
-fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused -msse2
-funroll-all-loops -std=gnu99 -fexcess-precision=fast -no-undefined
-version-info 6:0:0   -o libgmxpreprocess_mpi.la -rpath
/usr/local/gromacs/lib add_par.lo compute_io.lo convparm.lo fflibutil.lo
gen_ad.lo gen_vsite.lo genhydro.lo gpp_atomtype.lo gpp_bond_atomtype.lo
h_db.lo hackblock.lo hizzie.lo pdb2top.lo pgutil.lo readir.lo readpull.lo
resall.lo sorting.lo specbond.lo ter_db.lo tomorse.lo topdirs.lo topexcl.lo
topio.lo toppush.lo topshake.lo toputil.lo tpbcmp.lo vsite_parm.lo xlate.lo
../mdlib/libmd_mpi.la -lnsl -lm
libtool: link: cannot find the library `../mdlib/libmd_mpi.la' or unhandled
argument `../mdlib/libmd_mpi.la'
make[1]: *** [libgmxpreprocess_mpi.la] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gromacs-4.5.5/src/kernel'

I used this command to configure , before issuing make mdrun :  ./configure
--enable-mpi --program-suffix=_mpi --with-fft=fftw3. Also I have mpich2
installed in my system. So, what could be reason for this error ??


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: do_dssp

2012-04-05 Thread bharat gupta
Yes , I am using the correct options for dssp. But still I am getting the
same error.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 5/04/2012 10:25 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to plot the ss content using the do_dssp command , but I am
 getting the following error :-

 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi -na ddldj5Bn ddXN9mH0
  /dev/null 2 /dev/null

 I am using the DSSPold version. What could be the possible reason for
 such an error ??


 Many of them. Start by making sure you're following the advice of do_dssp
 -h.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: do_dssp

2012-04-05 Thread bharat gupta
*This is the output  :

[root@BHARATPC ~]# /usr/local/bin/dssp
bash: /usr/local/bin/dssp: Permission denied

I have already set the pat for dssp in .bashrc using export command , I
don't know why this error is there. Is it due to renaming dsspcmbi to dssp
??
*

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 5/04/2012 4:16 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Yes , I am using the correct options for dssp. But still I am getting the
 same error.


 What does invoking /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi say?

 Mark



 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 5/04/2012 10:25 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to plot the ss content using the do_dssp command , but I am
 getting the following error :-

 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi -na ddldj5Bn ddXN9mH0
  /dev/null 2 /dev/null

 I am using the DSSPold version. What could be the possible reason for
 such an error ??


  Many of them. Start by making sure you're following the advice of
 do_dssp -h.

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: do_dssp

2012-04-05 Thread bharat gupta
Ok now after downloading the latest version of dssp, and giving right
permissions and after executing the /usr/local/bin/dssp command I am
getting the following output :-

[root@BHARATPC peptide2]# /usr/local/bin/dssp
DSSP options:
  -h [ --help ] Display help message
  -i [ --input ] argInput file
  -o [ --output ] arg   Output file, use 'stdout' to output to screen
  -v [ --verbose ]  Verbose output
  -d [ --debug ] argDebug level (for even more verbose output)


Examples:

To calculate the secondary structure for the file 1crn.pdb and
write the result to a file called 1crn.dssp, you type:

  dssp.exe -i 1crn.pdb -o 1crn.dssp



On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 5/04/2012 5:16 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 *This is the output  :

 [root@BHARATPC ~]# /usr/local/bin/dssp
 *


 Don't run as root except for installing software, unless you like
 rebuilding your computer from the ground up.

 *bash: /usr/local/bin/dssp: Permission denied
 *


 Possibly you didn't give execute permission on some file or other. This is
 not a GROMACS problem, but rather a problem with how you have done your
 dssp installation. Consult its documentation.


 *
 I have already set the pat for dssp in .bashrc using export command , I
 don't know why this error is there. Is it due to renaming dsspcmbi to dssp
 ??
 *


 You have now reported testing a command different from the one you
 reported that you had instructed do_dssp to use. So it is hard for me to
 believe your assertion that you are following the advice in do_dssp -h
 correctly with a correct version of DSSP.


 Mark

 * *

 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 5/04/2012 4:16 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Yes , I am using the correct options for dssp. But still I am getting the
 same error.


  What does invoking /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi say?

 Mark



 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 5/04/2012 10:25 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to plot the ss content using the do_dssp command , but I am
 getting the following error :-

 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi -na ddldj5Bn
 ddXN9mH0  /dev/null 2 /dev/null

 I am using the DSSPold version. What could be the possible reason for
 such an error ??


  Many of them. Start by making sure you're following the advice of
 do_dssp -h.

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring of Salt bridges during simulation Run

2012-04-05 Thread bharat gupta
You can use g_saltbr option , http://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_saltbr.html

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users!


 I'd like to monitor origin and destabilisation of salt-bridges during
 simulation time. In particular I want to define some charged residues
 within selection groups to monitor both of intra-protein as well as
 protein-protein interactions. In past I've used only 
 g_hbondhttp://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_hbond.htmlutillity to monitor 
 Hbonds within selection. Is there any specified program
 for such task but with salt-bridges only ?


 Thanks for help,

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[gmx-users] Re: do_dssp

2012-04-04 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying to plot the ss content using the do_dssp command , but I am
getting the following error :-

Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dsspcmbi -na ddldj5Bn ddXN9mH0 
/dev/null 2 /dev/null

I am using the DSSPold version. What could be the possible reason for such
an error ??


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[gmx-users] Re: REMD tutorial

2012-02-09 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am planning to carry out a REMD study on a 12 residue beta-hairpin
peptide. I have read the gromacs tutorial for that . I have certain doubts
regarding the tutorial :-

1. Step. 4 says that run short simulations to have an estimate of the
exchange rate (can get a good estimate within ~100 ps) and modify the
temperatures if it does not correspond to the wished exchange. Do I have
to run short MD of 100 ps for each replica . I am not able to understand
this step ??

2. I have currently 24 processors available for REMD. The temperature range
that I have obtained from tgenerator server has 69 different values
(300K-600K). I want to know  how to calculate the no. of processors
required for carrying out REMD for a certain temperature range ??

Kindly clarify these doubts 

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[gmx-users] Chromophore residue patch in gromacs

2012-01-18 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I have been trying to attach the chromophore of GFP in charmm ff parameter
files. The parameters have been obtained from a published article. After
making the changes as per the documentation (
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field)
, I am getting following error :-

Atom CG is used in an interaction of type atom in the topology
database, but an atom of that name was not found in residue
number 51

The chromophore residue number is 66, I don't understand why there is an
error for residue 51 . Please help me in rectifying this error ..

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[gmx-users] REMD error

2012-01-11 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying to run a REMD of a peptide. But while executing the following
command after nvt and npt equilibration , I am getting the following error:-

mdrun_mpi mdrun -s prefix_.tpr -multi 20 -replex 1000
mdrun_mpi: error while loading shared libraries: libgmx_mpi.so.6: cannot
enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied


Can anybody suggest me how could I rectify this error.

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Re: [gmx-users] REMD error

2012-01-11 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for the advice I re-complied everything again with static libraries
and the installation went fine. But while executing the following command I
am again getting error :-


mdrun_mpi mdrun  -s prefix_.tpr -multi 20 -replex 500 -v


Fatal error:
The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the number of simulations (3)
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

BioBeat is Not Available In Regular Shops (P.J. Meulenhoff)

Halting program mdrun_mpi

gcq#155: BioBeat is Not Available In Regular Shops (P.J. Meulenhoff)

application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, -1) - process 0


I am trying to simulate 5 replicas and I have 4 cpu .



On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 12,January,2012 08:54 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to run a REMD of a peptide. But while executing the
 following command after nvt and npt equilibration , I am getting the
 following error:-

 mdrun_mpi mdrun -s prefix_.tpr -multi 20 -replex 1000
 mdrun_mpi: error while loading shared libraries: libgmx_mpi.so.6: cannot
 enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied


 Can you run a normal md smoothly?
 try:
 mdrun_mpi mdrun -deffnm prefix_0

 if it works, then some of your trajectories not sound. means system does
 not equilibrium well.



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Re: [gmx-users] REMD error

2012-01-11 Thread bharat gupta
The command I used this time :-

mdrun_mpi mdrun -s prefix_.tpr -multi 5 -replex 100


Here's the error that I got :-

Fatal error:
The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the number of simulations (5)
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Look at these, my work-strong arms (P.J. Harvey)

Halting program mdrun_mpi

gcq#345: Look at these, my work-strong arms (P.J. Harvey)

application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, -1) - process 0


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 12/01/2012 5:45 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 It says that The number of cores must be a multiple of the number of
 replicas (given with -multi, which must equal the number of 
 .tprhttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Topology_%28.tpr%29_Filefiles
  i.e., 10 for the above general example using
 prefix_0.tpr through prefix_9.tpr)

 I gave the options -multi 5 . But still I am getting the same error. Can
 you please explain, why is it so. Do I need to have the same no. of cores
 as the no. of .tpr files ??


 You can't be getting an identical error, the numbers are different now.

 If mdrun is reporting the number of nodes is 1, then you have not
 configured your MPI environment correctly so that it knows how many
 processors you have available. You will need to solve this by reading your
 MPI documentation.

 If you have only four processors, you will not be able to run efficient
 REMD on five replicas, even if you can work out how to get MPI to
 over-allocate MPI processes to your physical processors.

 Please copy and paste command line and error together, so that people who
 might help don't feel like they might be wasting their time guessing. They
 have other things to do. Your example input below did not produce your
 error below, because 20 != 3.


 Mark


 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 12/01/2012 5:29 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for the advice I re-complied everything again with static
 libraries and the installation went fine. But while executing the following
 command I am again getting error :-


 mdrun_mpi mdrun  -s prefix_.tpr -multi 20 -replex 500 -v


 Fatal error:
 The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the number of simulations (3)
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
 GROMACS
 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 ---

 BioBeat is Not Available In Regular Shops (P.J. Meulenhoff)

 Halting program mdrun_mpi

 gcq#155: BioBeat is Not Available In Regular Shops (P.J. Meulenhoff)

 application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, -1) - process 0


 I am trying to simulate 5 replicas and I have 4 cpu .


  See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD Execution Steps
 point 2. You cannot simulate an arbitrary number of replicas on an
 arbitrary number of processors.

 Mark





 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 12,January,2012 08:54 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to run a REMD of a peptide. But while executing the
 following command after nvt and npt equilibration , I am getting the
 following error:-

 mdrun_mpi mdrun -s prefix_.tpr -multi 20 -replex 1000
 mdrun_mpi: error while loading shared libraries: libgmx_mpi.so.6: cannot
 enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied


  Can you run a normal md smoothly?
 try:
 mdrun_mpi mdrun -deffnm prefix_0

 if it works, then some of your trajectories not sound. means system does
 not equilibrium well.



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate

2012-01-03 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for all your replies. I want to know this can be done in gromacs or
not - using REMD with structure based models generated from SMOG server to
study protein folding and unfolding ??. Also, I have a question about how
to determine  the exchange probablities for a particular REMD experiment
and also how many replicas do we need to consider, does that depend on the
temperature list generated from the T_REMD server??

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:36 AM, felmer...@uchile.cl
felmer...@uchile.clwrote:

 Yeah sure. There are several methods to trick your peptide to fold, but
 often you loose the real kinetics by using them. I think a 230 residues
 protein is too big to study folding kinetics through MD (because of the
 folding kinetics, not the size of the system). With topology based
 potenitials (Go-like models) you surely can do it, but take into account
 the the core asumption there is that the energy landscape of your peptide
 is perfectly funneled to the native state, which is a very good
 approximation for small protein (like a 100 residues) but not so nice for
 bigger proteins. In fact, even small proteins have intermediate states
 which makes the energy landscape somehow rugged (the engrailed homeodomain,
 the trp repressor, etc). Besides that, it is not a trivial task to go from
 the reduced representation to real kinetic constants. Maybe if you are
 interested in comparison rather than absolute values you can be lucky with
 the Go-modeling. If that is the case maybe you should try the SMOG
 potential it is very fast.



 regards

 Mensaje original
 De: bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 Fecha: 30-dic-2011 22:45

 Para: Discussion list for GROMACS usersgmx-users@gromacs.org
 Asunto: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate

 The protein that I am dealing with is a 230 amino acid protein. I have
 come across some methods that used reduced space model of protein such as
 CABS for locating the protein folding pathway. An another paper describes
 about using Go model together with Rigid body dynamics for finding protein
 folding pathway.

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM, felmer...@uchile.cl felmer...@uchile.cl
  wrote:

 I small thing to consider with that particular paper is that DE Shaw has
 a special machine (Anton) to do those calculations, so in principle it is
 not possible to reproduce them (in a reasonable amount of time) on a
 regular (super)computer. I think your best shot, if your protein is small
 enough, is to use accelerated MD mixed with some good old kramer's theory.
 See for example J. Chem. Theory Comput., 2011, 7 (3), pp 575–581.

 In any case it seems to me like too much of an effort, in the end here
 you really rely in the accuracy of the forcefield.

 Regards


 Mensaje original
 De: jmda...@itqb.unl.pt
 Fecha: 30-dic-2011 21:40
 Para: Discussion list for GROMACS usersgmx-users@gromacs.org
 Asunto: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate


 As it was pointed out, the literature is vast on this subject.


 Moreover, calculating folding rates from simulations is not a trivial
 subject, and it relies on many assumptions (e.g. what is considered
 folded, that the sampling obtained is enough). Even for small peptides,
 enough sampling may mean several hundreds of microsseconds, something not
 accessible to everyone.

 For a very recent article on the subject, check out:

 Lindorff-Larsen, K., Piana, S., Dror, R.O., Shaw, D.E. (2011) How
 Fast-Folding Proteins Fold, *Science* 334:517-520.
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1208351

 Regards,
 João

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:19 AM, KS Rotondi k...@chemistry.umass.eduwrote:

  As Justin pointed out, there is a vast literature on this topic, you
 need to ask yourself what you seek, and look at many review articles to
 find some reasonable starting points for you own needs and designs. Beyond
 that, it's a lot of hard work...

  On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your advice... Could you please refer me some papers
 regarding this 

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:17 AM, KS Rotondi k...@chemistry.umass.eduwrote:

 No, there is no way to use such data to determine the folding rate of
 the intact protein. If you used a fragment approach you could potentially
 (read lots of papers on REMD) isolate nucleation sites, but minus the
 tertiary interaction scheme you could not tell a compelling story. Now, if
 you want to find nucleation sites and see if there are spatially proximal
 sites and simulate them together... You might begin to tell a story.

 Ken


 On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I want to whether does it make any sense or is
 it possible to simulate fragments of proteins and find their folding rate
 and then correlate it to folding rate of whole protein ??


 Simulating arbitrary parts of a protein may or may not produce any
 relevant information, likely the latter.  Independently folding domains
 might be simulated in isolation

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate

2012-01-03 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for the reply. Since I need to study the effect of beta-hairpin turn
design on protein folding . I thought that first unfolding and then
refolding would give the change in folding time. As you told that to do
such a task would require large computational power. Is there any other
method in MDS that could be used ??

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 4/01/2012 12:35 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for all your replies. I want to know this can be done in gromacs
 or not - using REMD with structure based models generated from SMOG server
 to study protein folding and unfolding ??.


 Well, it can be done, but you probably don't have enough computer to fold
 a 230 residue protein at atomistic resolution (or maybe even
 coarse-grained).


  Also, I have a question about how to determine  the exchange probablities
 for a particular REMD experiment and also how many replicas do we need to
 consider, does that depend on the temperature list generated from the
 T_REMD server??


 There's a significant literature on these subjects. I suggest you read
 some of it. Short answer: pick the highest temperature according to the
 size of the largest barrier you expect to cross (good luck guessing that),
 have around 20% exchange acceptance, and be prepared to observe where the
 replica-flow bottle necks are and to iteratively refine you temperatures.

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate

2011-12-30 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks for your advice... Could you please refer me some papers regarding
this 

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:17 AM, KS Rotondi k...@chemistry.umass.edu wrote:

 No, there is no way to use such data to determine the folding rate of the
 intact protein. If you used a fragment approach you could potentially (read
 lots of papers on REMD) isolate nucleation sites, but minus the tertiary
 interaction scheme you could not tell a compelling story. Now, if you want
 to find nucleation sites and see if there are spatially proximal sites and
 simulate them together... You might begin to tell a story.

 Ken


 On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I want to whether does it make any sense or is it
 possible to simulate fragments of proteins and find their folding rate and
 then correlate it to folding rate of whole protein ??


 Simulating arbitrary parts of a protein may or may not produce any
 relevant information, likely the latter.  Independently folding domains
 might be simulated in isolation, but if there is a chance that the peptide
 sequences have any effect on neighboring residues or even more distal
 sites, you'll never produce anything useful.

 -Justin

  On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
   bharat gupta wrote:
   Hi,
   I want to know whether it's possible to calculate the folding
   rate of 20 residue peptide folding into a beta-hairpin using
   gromacs ??
   Anything is possible ;)  But seriously, there is existing literature
   on such topics, I suspect you can find methodology that will suit
   your needs.
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate

2011-12-30 Thread bharat gupta
The protein that I am dealing with is a 230 amino acid protein. I have come
across some methods that used reduced space model of protein such as CABS
for locating the protein folding pathway. An another paper describes about
using Go model together with Rigid body dynamics for finding protein
folding pathway.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM, felmer...@uchile.cl
felmer...@uchile.clwrote:

 I small thing to consider with that particular paper is that DE Shaw has a
 special machine (Anton) to do those calculations, so in principle it is not
 possible to reproduce them (in a reasonable amount of time) on a regular
 (super)computer. I think your best shot, if your protein is small enough,
 is to use accelerated MD mixed with some good old kramer's theory. See for
 example J. Chem. Theory Comput., 2011, 7 (3), pp 575–581.

 In any case it seems to me like too much of an effort, in the end here you
 really rely in the accuracy of the forcefield.

 Regards


 Mensaje original
 De: jmda...@itqb.unl.pt
 Fecha: 30-dic-2011 21:40
 Para: Discussion list for GROMACS usersgmx-users@gromacs.org
 Asunto: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Folding rate


 As it was pointed out, the literature is vast on this subject.


 Moreover, calculating folding rates from simulations is not a trivial
 subject, and it relies on many assumptions (e.g. what is considered
 folded, that the sampling obtained is enough). Even for small peptides,
 enough sampling may mean several hundreds of microsseconds, something not
 accessible to everyone.

 For a very recent article on the subject, check out:

 Lindorff-Larsen, K., Piana, S., Dror, R.O., Shaw, D.E. (2011) How
 Fast-Folding Proteins Fold, *Science* 334:517-520.
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1208351

 Regards,
 João

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:19 AM, KS Rotondi k...@chemistry.umass.eduwrote:

  As Justin pointed out, there is a vast literature on this topic, you
 need to ask yourself what you seek, and look at many review articles to
 find some reasonable starting points for you own needs and designs. Beyond
 that, it's a lot of hard work...

  On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:04 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your advice... Could you please refer me some papers regarding
 this 

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:17 AM, KS Rotondi k...@chemistry.umass.eduwrote:

 No, there is no way to use such data to determine the folding rate of
 the intact protein. If you used a fragment approach you could potentially
 (read lots of papers on REMD) isolate nucleation sites, but minus the
 tertiary interaction scheme you could not tell a compelling story. Now, if
 you want to find nucleation sites and see if there are spatially proximal
 sites and simulate them together... You might begin to tell a story.

 Ken


 On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I want to whether does it make any sense or is
 it possible to simulate fragments of proteins and find their folding rate
 and then correlate it to folding rate of whole protein ??


 Simulating arbitrary parts of a protein may or may not produce any
 relevant information, likely the latter.  Independently folding domains
 might be simulated in isolation, but if there is a chance that the peptide
 sequences have any effect on neighboring residues or even more distal
 sites, you'll never produce anything useful.

 -Justin

 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
   bharat gupta wrote:
   Hi,
   I want to know whether it's possible to calculate the folding
   rate of 20 residue peptide folding into a beta-hairpin using
   gromacs ??
   Anything is possible ;)  But seriously, there is existing literature
   on such topics, I suspect you can find methodology that will suit
   your needs.
   -Justin
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Looking for potential phosphate binding sites

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Yes, the phosphate ion moves around the protein but I am not able to find
out how many of them bind to my protein. How can that be done ??

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 bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 Hi,

 I have done a simulation of 10ns with my proteins and 0.5 M phosphate
 ion. Now I want to know where does the phosphate ion bind on the protein
 surface or distribution of phosphate ions on protein surface ?? .. can help
 me finding out this 


 Have you watched the trajectory to see what happens?

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Looking for potential phosphate binding sites

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

Is there any way to get the averaged distributions of ions around the
protein surface.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Yes, the phosphate ion moves around the protein but I am not able to find
 out how many of them bind to my protein. How can that be done ??


 You'll have to set a definition for what you consider to be binding.  Is a
 transient contact binding?  Does the interaction have to persist for some
 length of time to be considered?  In any case, you can print a list of
 contacts that occur with g_dist -dist, or use more complex selection
 criteria and generate dynamic indices with g_select (see the help text for
 examples).

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I am trying the simulation of a docked complex of my protein . While
solvating the box using the following command :-
genbox -cp newbox.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o solv.gro


The processing does not stop and continues to run . Here's the output that
I got while solvating the box , which is still continuing :-


Reading solute configuration
GRoups of Organic Molecules in ACtion for Science
Containing 3620 atoms in 231 residues
Initialising van der waals distances...

WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
 based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
 from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

Reading solvent configuration
216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,WFVG,MAR. 1984
solvent configuration contains 648 atoms in 216 residues

Initialising van der waals distances...
Will generate new solvent configuration of 46x46x46 boxes
Generating configuration
Sorting configuration
Found 1 molecule type:
SOL (   3 atoms): 21024576 residues
Calculating Overlap...
box_margin = 0.315
Removed 1047843 atoms that were outside the box

What have gone wrong for solvation to take this much time on 12 processors
CPU.
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Actually I check the file newbox.gro in VMD and I found that the phosphate
ion instead of being docked to my protein lies somewhere far away from the
protein. The docked complex was taken from autodock's docking result. So
what could have wrong . I guess this could be the reason for the box being
too large .

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying the simulation of a docked complex of my protein . While
 solvating the box using the following command :-
 genbox -cp newbox.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o solv.gro


 The processing does not stop and continues to run . Here's the output
 that I got while solvating the box , which is still continuing :-


 Reading solute configuration
 GRoups of Organic Molecules in ACtion for Science
 Containing 3620 atoms in 231 residues
 Initialising van der waals distances...

 WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
 based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
 from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

 Reading solvent configuration
 216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-**MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,**WFVG,MAR.
 1984
 solvent configuration contains 648 atoms in 216 residues

 Initialising van der waals distances...
 Will generate new solvent configuration of 46x46x46 boxes
 Generating configuration
 Sorting configuration
 Found 1 molecule type:
SOL (   3 atoms): 21024576 residues
 Calculating Overlap...
 box_margin = 0.315
 Removed 1047843 atoms that were outside the box

 What have gone wrong for solvation to take this much time on 12
 processors CPU.


 genbox is not parallelized; you can only use 1 CPU.

 You've added 21 million water molecules (yikes!) to the box and genbox is
 trying to remove over 1 million atoms - I'd say your box is much too large
 for a solute of 3620 atoms, by several orders of magnitude.  You're
 probably running out of memory to do this operation.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
I checked the docked structure and the structure obtained after adding the
ligand coordinates to the processed file obtained after using pdb2gmx
command. It's very surprising that in the docked structure ligand is at the
correct place but the processed gromacs file the ligand lies far apart from
the protein. Any clue what could be the reason for this ??

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Actually I check the file newbox.gro in VMD and I found that the
 phosphate ion instead of being docked to my protein lies somewhere far away
 from the protein. The docked complex was taken from autodock's docking
 result. So what could have wrong . I guess this could be the reason for the
 box being too large .


 Sounds like you chose Autodock's undocked complex where the protein and
 ligand are far apart, but that's more of an Autodock question rather than a
 Gromacs one.

 -Justin

  On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



bharat gupta wrote:

Hi,

I am trying the simulation of a docked complex of my protein .
While solvating the box using the following command :-
genbox -cp newbox.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o solv.gro


The processing does not stop and continues to run . Here's the
output that I got while solvating the box , which is still
continuing :-


Reading solute configuration
GRoups of Organic Molecules in ACtion for Science
Containing 3620 atoms in 231 residues
Initialising van der waals distances...

WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.

Reading solvent configuration
216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-__**MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,__**
 WFVG,MAR.

1984
solvent configuration contains 648 atoms in 216 residues

Initialising van der waals distances...
Will generate new solvent configuration of 46x46x46 boxes
Generating configuration
Sorting configuration
Found 1 molecule type:
   SOL (   3 atoms): 21024576 residues
Calculating Overlap...
box_margin = 0.315
Removed 1047843 atoms that were outside the box

What have gone wrong for solvation to take this much time on 12
processors CPU.


genbox is not parallelized; you can only use 1 CPU.

You've added 21 million water molecules (yikes!) to the box and
genbox is trying to remove over 1 million atoms - I'd say your box
is much too large for a solute of 3620 atoms, by several orders of
magnitude.  You're probably running out of memory to do this operation.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Here's the coordinate of the phosphate ion from the docked complex :-
ATOM   2209  N   GLY A 228  -4.491  73.252   3.100  1.00 31.50
 -0.336 N
ATOM   2210  HN  GLY A 228  -4.765  72.618   3.850  1.00  0.00
0.164 HD
ATOM   2211  CA  GLY A 228  -4.817  74.668   3.205  1.00 34.50
0.189 C
ATOM   2212  C   GLY A 228  -6.283  75.040   3.026  1.00 36.60
0.253 C
ATOM   2213  O   GLY A 228  -6.638  76.216   3.151  1.00 36.80
 -0.270 OA
ATOM   2214  N   ILE A 229  -7.109  74.064   2.647  1.00 38.60
 -0.337 N
ATOM   2215  HN  ILE A 229  -6.718  73.136   2.484  1.00  0.00
0.164 HD
ATOM   2216  CA  ILE A 229  -8.556  74.256   2.452  1.00 41.10
0.159 C
ATOM   2217  C   ILE A 229  -9.275  73.368   3.447  1.00 43.10
0.251 C
ATOM   2218  O   ILE A 229  -8.856  72.229   3.655  1.00 43.60
 -0.271 OA
ATOM   2219  CB  ILE A 229  -9.003  73.826   1.031  1.00 40.40
0.029 C
ATOM   2220  CG1 ILE A 229  -8.528  74.844   0.013  1.00 40.50
0.002 C
ATOM   2221  CG2 ILE A 229 -10.512  73.689   0.942  1.00 39.90
0.002 C
ATOM     CD1 ILE A 229  -8.610  74.327  -1.389  1.00 41.40
0.000 C
ATOM   2223  N   THR A 230 -10.312  73.894   4.098  1.00 45.60
 -0.337 N
ATOM   2224  HN  THR A 230 -10.544  74.877   3.957  1.00  0.00
0.164 HD
ATOM   2225  CA  THR A 230 -11.129  73.085   5.017  1.00 47.90
0.172 C
ATOM   2226  C   THR A 230 -12.555  72.789   4.490  1.00 49.10
0.232 C
ATOM   2227  O   THR A 230 -12.945  71.602   4.523  1.00 50.90
 -0.286 OA
ATOM   2228  CB  THR A 230 -11.179  73.714   6.460  1.00 48.20
0.139 C
ATOM   2229  OG1 THR A 230 -11.348  75.136   6.384  1.00 48.60
 -0.383 OA
ATOM   2230  HG1 THR A 230 -12.152  75.322   5.914  1.00  0.00
0.210 HD
ATOM   2231  CG2 THR A 230  -9.880  73.414   7.220  1.00 49.10
0.034 C
TER2232  THR A 230
HETATM1  P   PO4 A 322  28.148  82.525   1.696  1.00  2.95
0.437 P
HETATM2  O1  PO4 A 322  27.246  83.314   2.595  1.00  5.93
 -0.609 OA
HETATM3  O2  PO4 A 322  27.419  81.238   1.254  1.00  4.49
 -0.609 OA
HETATM4  O3  PO4 A 322  28.535  83.301   0.471  1.00  2.00
 -0.609 OA
HETATM5  O4  PO4 A 322  29.451  82.186   2.489  1.00  4.00
 -0.609 OA



Here's the coordinates of the processed file after adding ligand
coordinates :-


 230THR  N 3601  -1.031   7.389   0.410
  230THR HN 3602  -1.054   7.486   0.396
  230THR CA 3603  -1.113   7.308   0.502
  230THR HA 3604  -1.063   7.222   0.502
  230THR CB 3605  -1.118   7.371   0.646
  230THR HB 3606  -1.197   7.338   0.697
  230THROG1 3607  -1.135   7.514   0.638
  230THRHG1 3608  -1.138   7.552   0.731
  230THRCG2 3609  -0.988   7.341   0.722
  230THR   HG21 3610  -0.993   7.382   0.813
  230THR   HG22 3611  -0.976   7.242   0.730
  230THR   HG23 3612  -0.910   7.380   0.672
  230THR  C 3613  -1.255   7.279   0.449
  230THROT1 3614  -1.294   7.160   0.452
  230THROT2 3615  -1.337   7.205   0.529
1LIG   P   1  28.261  82.425   1.961
1LIG  O1   2  27.805  80.999   1.894
1LIG  O2   3  28.523  82.938   0.528
1LIG  O3   4  27.235  83.311   2.606
1LIG  O4   5  29.563  82.481   2.823
   5.23907   4.16174   3.66560


On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 I checked the docked structure and the structure obtained after adding
 the ligand coordinates to the processed file obtained after using pdb2gmx
 command. It's very surprising that in the docked structure ligand is at the
 correct place but the processed gromacs file the ligand lies far apart from
 the protein. Any clue what could be the reason for this ??


 If the docked structure is correct, and the one you reassembled is
 incorrect, you made some mistake in putting it back together.  It's
 impossible to say what went wrong based on the (lack of) information given.

 -Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry to ask this , but what could be done as I don't understand how could
have happened??

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Here's the coordinate of the phosphate ion from the docked complex :-
 ATOM   2209  N   GLY A 228  -4.491  73.252   3.100  1.00 31.50
  -0.336 N ATOM   2210  HN  GLY A 228  -4.765  72.618   3.850  1.00
  0.00 0.164 HD
 ATOM   2211  CA  GLY A 228  -4.817  74.668   3.205  1.00 34.50
 0.189 C ATOM   2212  C   GLY A 228  -6.283  75.040   3.026  1.00 36.60
 0.253 C ATOM   2213  O   GLY A 228  -6.638  76.216   3.151  1.00
 36.80-0.270 OA
 ATOM   2214  N   ILE A 229  -7.109  74.064   2.647  1.00 38.60
  -0.337 N ATOM   2215  HN  ILE A 229  -6.718  73.136   2.484  1.00
  0.00 0.164 HD
 ATOM   2216  CA  ILE A 229  -8.556  74.256   2.452  1.00 41.10
 0.159 C ATOM   2217  C   ILE A 229  -9.275  73.368   3.447  1.00 43.10
 0.251 C ATOM   2218  O   ILE A 229  -8.856  72.229   3.655  1.00
 43.60-0.271 OA
 ATOM   2219  CB  ILE A 229  -9.003  73.826   1.031  1.00 40.40
 0.029 C ATOM   2220  CG1 ILE A 229  -8.528  74.844   0.013  1.00 40.50
 0.002 C ATOM   2221  CG2 ILE A 229 -10.512  73.689   0.942  1.00
 39.90 0.002 C ATOM     CD1 ILE A 229  -8.610  74.327  -1.389
  1.00 41.40 0.000 C ATOM   2223  N   THR A 230 -10.312  73.894
 4.098  1.00 45.60-0.337 N ATOM   2224  HN  THR A 230 -10.544
  74.877   3.957  1.00  0.00 0.164 HD
 ATOM   2225  CA  THR A 230 -11.129  73.085   5.017  1.00 47.90
 0.172 C ATOM   2226  C   THR A 230 -12.555  72.789   4.490  1.00 49.10
 0.232 C ATOM   2227  O   THR A 230 -12.945  71.602   4.523  1.00
 50.90-0.286 OA
 ATOM   2228  CB  THR A 230 -11.179  73.714   6.460  1.00 48.20
 0.139 C ATOM   2229  OG1 THR A 230 -11.348  75.136   6.384  1.00 48.60
-0.383 OA
 ATOM   2230  HG1 THR A 230 -12.152  75.322   5.914  1.00  0.00
 0.210 HD
 ATOM   2231  CG2 THR A 230  -9.880  73.414   7.220  1.00 49.10
 0.034 C TER2232  THR A 230 HETATM1  P   PO4 A 322  28.148
  82.525   1.696  1.00  2.95 0.437 P HETATM2  O1  PO4 A 322
  27.246  83.314   2.595  1.00  5.93-0.609 OA
 HETATM3  O2  PO4 A 322  27.419  81.238   1.254  1.00  4.49
  -0.609 OA
 HETATM4  O3  PO4 A 322  28.535  83.301   0.471  1.00  2.00
  -0.609 OA
 HETATM5  O4  PO4 A 322  29.451  82.186   2.489  1.00  4.00
  -0.609 OA



 Here's the coordinates of the processed file after adding ligand
 coordinates :-


  230THR  N 3601  -1.031   7.389   0.410
  230THR HN 3602  -1.054   7.486   0.396
  230THR CA 3603  -1.113   7.308   0.502
  230THR HA 3604  -1.063   7.222   0.502
  230THR CB 3605  -1.118   7.371   0.646
  230THR HB 3606  -1.197   7.338   0.697
  230THROG1 3607  -1.135   7.514   0.638
  230THRHG1 3608  -1.138   7.552   0.731
  230THRCG2 3609  -0.988   7.341   0.722
  230THR   HG21 3610  -0.993   7.382   0.813
  230THR   HG22 3611  -0.976   7.242   0.730
  230THR   HG23 3612  -0.910   7.380   0.672
  230THR  C 3613  -1.255   7.279   0.449
  230THROT1 3614  -1.294   7.160   0.452
  230THROT2 3615  -1.337   7.205   0.529
1LIG   P   1  28.261  82.425   1.961   1LIG  O1   2
  27.805  80.999   1.894   1LIG  O2   3  28.523  82.938   0.528
   1LIG  O3   4  27.235  83.311   2.606   1LIG  O4   5  29.563
  82.481   2.823
   5.23907   4.16174   3.66560


 Your PO4 coordinates are still in Angstrom.  They should be nm for a .gro
 file.

 -Justin


 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



bharat gupta wrote:

I checked the docked structure and the structure obtained after
adding the ligand coordinates to the processed file obtained
after using pdb2gmx command. It's very surprising that in the
docked structure ligand is at the correct place but the
processed gromacs file the ligand lies far apart from the
protein. Any clue what could be the reason for this ??


If the docked structure is correct, and the one you reassembled is
incorrect, you made some mistake in putting it back together.  It's
impossible to say what went wrong based on the (lack of) information
given.

-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Yes, I prepared the protein file separately using pdb2gmx and then I pasted
the ligand manually from the docked file.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Sorry to ask this , but what could be done as I don't understand how
 could have happened??


 I'll assume that you processed your .pdb file with pdb2gmx to get the
 protein coordinates in .gro format, but I don't know how you added the
 ligand coordinates to the .gro file.  If you did it by hand (i.e.
 copy/paste with a text editor), then you didn't preserve the required
 units.  If you used some other program (i.e. editconf) and it did not
 perform as expected, that is a separate issue.  Since I'm left to guess
 (you still haven't described exactly what you've done to construct the
 file), that's all I can offer.

 -Justin

  On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



bharat gupta wrote:

Here's the coordinate of the phosphate ion from the docked
complex :-
ATOM   2209  N   GLY A 228  -4.491  73.252   3.100  1.00
31.50-0.336 N ATOM   2210  HN  GLY A 228  -4.765  72.618
  3.850  1.00  0.00 0.164 HD
ATOM   2211  CA  GLY A 228  -4.817  74.668   3.205  1.00
34.50 0.189 C ATOM   2212  C   GLY A 228  -6.283  75.040
  3.026  1.00 36.60 0.253 C ATOM   2213  O   GLY A 228
 -6.638  76.216   3.151  1.00 36.80-0.270 OA
ATOM   2214  N   ILE A 229  -7.109  74.064   2.647  1.00
38.60-0.337 N ATOM   2215  HN  ILE A 229  -6.718  73.136
  2.484  1.00  0.00 0.164 HD
ATOM   2216  CA  ILE A 229  -8.556  74.256   2.452  1.00
41.10 0.159 C ATOM   2217  C   ILE A 229  -9.275  73.368
  3.447  1.00 43.10 0.251 C ATOM   2218  O   ILE A 229
 -8.856  72.229   3.655  1.00 43.60-0.271 OA
ATOM   2219  CB  ILE A 229  -9.003  73.826   1.031  1.00
40.40 0.029 C ATOM   2220  CG1 ILE A 229  -8.528  74.844
  0.013  1.00 40.50 0.002 C ATOM   2221  CG2 ILE A 229
-10.512  73.689   0.942  1.00 39.90 0.002 C ATOM     CD1
ILE A 229  -8.610  74.327  -1.389  1.00 41.40 0.000 C
ATOM   2223  N   THR A 230 -10.312  73.894   4.098  1.00
45.60-0.337 N ATOM   2224  HN  THR A 230 -10.544  74.877
  3.957  1.00  0.00 0.164 HD
ATOM   2225  CA  THR A 230 -11.129  73.085   5.017  1.00
47.90 0.172 C ATOM   2226  C   THR A 230 -12.555  72.789
  4.490  1.00 49.10 0.232 C ATOM   2227  O   THR A 230
-12.945  71.602   4.523  1.00 50.90-0.286 OA
ATOM   2228  CB  THR A 230 -11.179  73.714   6.460  1.00
48.20 0.139 C ATOM   2229  OG1 THR A 230 -11.348  75.136
  6.384  1.00 48.60-0.383 OA
ATOM   2230  HG1 THR A 230 -12.152  75.322   5.914  1.00
 0.00 0.210 HD
ATOM   2231  CG2 THR A 230  -9.880  73.414   7.220  1.00
49.10 0.034 C TER2232  THR A 230 HETATM1  P
PO4 A 322  28.148  82.525   1.696  1.00  2.95 0.437 P
HETATM2  O1  PO4 A 322  27.246  83.314   2.595  1.00
 5.93-0.609 OA
HETATM3  O2  PO4 A 322  27.419  81.238   1.254  1.00
 4.49-0.609 OA
HETATM4  O3  PO4 A 322  28.535  83.301   0.471  1.00
 2.00-0.609 OA
HETATM5  O4  PO4 A 322  29.451  82.186   2.489  1.00
 4.00-0.609 OA



Here's the coordinates of the processed file after adding ligand
coordinates :-


 230THR  N 3601  -1.031   7.389   0.410
 230THR HN 3602  -1.054   7.486   0.396
 230THR CA 3603  -1.113   7.308   0.502
 230THR HA 3604  -1.063   7.222   0.502
 230THR CB 3605  -1.118   7.371   0.646
 230THR HB 3606  -1.197   7.338   0.697
 230THROG1 3607  -1.135   7.514   0.638
 230THRHG1 3608  -1.138   7.552   0.731
 230THRCG2 3609  -0.988   7.341   0.722
 230THR   HG21 3610  -0.993   7.382   0.813
 230THR   HG22 3611  -0.976   7.242   0.730
 230THR   HG23 3612  -0.910   7.380   0.672
 230THR  C 3613  -1.255   7.279   0.449
 230THROT1 3614  -1.294   7.160   0.452
 230THROT2 3615  -1.337   7.205   0.529
   1LIG   P   1  28.261  82.425   1.961   1LIG  O1
  2  27.805  80.999   1.894   1LIG  O2   3  28.523  82.938
  0.528   1LIG  O3   4  27.235  83.311   2.606
  1LIG  O4   5  29.563  82.481   2.823
  5.23907   4.16174   3.66560


Your PO4 coordinates are still in Angstrom.  They should be nm for a
.gro file.

-Justin


On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry I didn't understand . Can u brief it ??

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Yes, I prepared the protein file separately using pdb2gmx and then I
 pasted the ligand manually from the docked file.


 Then you prepared it incorrectly.  You need to use the right units.

 -Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
I didn't understand what you meant by that link. Can you please tell me
what can be done ??

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Sorry I didn't understand . Can u brief it ??


 I already did:

 http://lists.gromacs.org/**pipermail/gmx-users/2011-**December/04.htmlhttp://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-December/04.html

 -Justin

  On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



bharat gupta wrote:

Yes, I prepared the protein file separately using pdb2gmx and
then I pasted the ligand manually from the docked file.


Then you prepared it incorrectly.  You need to use the right units.

-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

2011-12-01 Thread bharat gupta
Yes, but I took the coordinates for phosphate ion from some other pdb file
and docked with my protein using autodock. Then I generated the parameter
for the ion using swissparam. Then prepared the protein file using pdb2gmx
and pasted the coordinates of docked ion from the docked file obtained from
autodock. What Shall I do now ?? ...

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.eduwrote:

  One file you used had the coordinates in angstroms, the other in
 nanometers.

 ** **

 You cannot have numbers with different units in the same coordinate file.
 Which is what you did.  Hence why they are not in the locations you assumed
 they were.

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 *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Re: Protein ligand simulation

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 I didn't understand what you meant by that link. Can you please tell me
 what can be done ??

 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 



 bharat gupta wrote:

 Sorry I didn't understand . Can u brief it ??

 ** **

 I already did:

 http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-December/04.html

 -Justin

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 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



bharat gupta wrote:

Yes, I prepared the protein file separately using pdb2gmx and
then I pasted the ligand manually from the docked file.


Then you prepared it incorrectly.  You need to use the right units.

-Justin

 

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[gmx-users] Re: Looking for potential phosphate binding sites

2011-11-30 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

Hi,

I have done a simulation of 10ns with my proteins and 0.5 M phosphate ion.
Now I want to know where does the phosphate ion bind on the protein surface
or distribution of phosphate ions on protein surface ?? .. can help me
finding out this 


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[gmx-users] Re: Restarting a crashed run

2011-11-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I was running a simulation of 10ns which crashed in between at 1.7 ns due
to power failure. I used the following command to restart the simulation
form that point:


mdrun -s topol.tpr -cpi state.cpt -append


After checking the file md_0_1.log and others , I am getting data only for
those 1.7ns . How can I retrieve the data for the other half of the
simulation that I restarted ??


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[gmx-users] Fwd: Restarting a crashed run

2011-11-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I was running a simulation of 10ns which crashed in between at 1.7 ns due
to power failure. I used the following command to restart the simulation
form that point:


mdrun -s topol.tpr -cpi state.cpt -append


After checking the file md_0_1.log and others , I am getting data only for
those 1.7ns . How can I retrieve the data for the other half of the
simulation that I restarted ??


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion

2011-09-28 Thread bharat gupta
I repeated the nvt equilibration with 500 ps and it was successful , after
confirming the temperature graph. But during npt simulation, I got the
following error:-

step 131500, will finish Thu Sep 29 01:54:20 2011imb F  2%
step 131520: Water molecule starting at atom 6981 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

---
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: pme.c, line: 538

Fatal error:
1 particles communicated to PME node 0 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off
out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.


Since there are large no. of water molecules after 6981 , it means that it
is not happening because oh some interaction with phosphate ion. What shall
be done to rectify this ??


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.eduwrote:

  And where are these waters?  Close to the phosphate ions?

 ** **

 You really need to be asking more questions, looking at the trajectory file
 / frames when it blows up, and determining what is actually going on by
 yourself.

 ** **

 Catch ya,

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 Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action

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 381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
 dallas.war...@monash.edu

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 ** **

 *From:* gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:
 gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] *On Behalf Of *bharat gupta
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2011 1:30 PM
 *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users
 *Subject:* [gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion**
 **

 ** **

 it's showing error that certain atoms cannot be settled and these atoms are
 of solvent molecules i.e. Water


 On Wednesday, September 28, 2011, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.edu
 wrote:
  What is actually blowing up?  The protein or the phosphate ions?  Do the
 phosphate ions run OK by themselves in water?
 
 
 
  Catch ya,
 
  Dr. Dallas Warren
 
  Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action
 
  Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
  381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
  dallas.war...@monash.edu
 
  +61 3 9903 9304
  -
  When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble
 a nail.
 
 
 
  From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:
 gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of bharat gupta
  Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:48 PM
  To: jalem...@vt.edu; Discussion list for GROMACS users
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate
 ion
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I tried simulating the system again but this time with 2 phsophate ion
 and the charge of the system was neutralized by adding 6 sodium ions . After
 minimizing , I equilibrated for 500 ps but I got LINCS error around
 300ps.  It's happening due to the addition of phosphate ions as I have
 simulated my protein in water earlier without any problem. During nvt
 quilibration the temperature coupling settings were for Protein and Non
 protein groups. Do I have to make groups for Protein and water_ion. Please
 comment??
 
  On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
 
  bharat gupta wrote:
 
  HI,
 
  I have tried simulating my protein (GFP) solvated with water molecules
 and 10 phosphate ions. During the md run step the system starts exploding
 after  500 ps. What could be the reason for this . I know this is happening
 due to the addition of phosphate ion but I need to study the binding of ions
 . So, what shall I do ??
 
 
 
 
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System
 
  -Justin
 
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[gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion

2011-09-27 Thread bharat gupta
HI,

I have tried simulating my protein (GFP) solvated with water molecules and
10 phosphate ions. During the md run step the system starts exploding after
 500 ps. What could be the reason for this . I know this is happening due to
the addition of phosphate ion but I need to study the binding of ions . So,
what shall I do ??

Regards

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion

2011-09-27 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried simulating the system again but this time with 2 phsophate ion and
the charge of the system was neutralized by adding 6 sodium ions . After
minimizing , I equilibrated for 500 ps but I got LINCS error around
300ps.  It's happening due to the addition of phosphate ions as I have
simulated my protein in water earlier without any problem. During nvt
quilibration the temperature coupling settings were for Protein and Non
protein groups. Do I have to make groups for Protein and water_ion. Please
comment??

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 bharat gupta wrote:

 HI,

 I have tried simulating my protein (GFP) solvated with water molecules and
 10 phosphate ions. During the md run step the system starts exploding after
  500 ps. What could be the reason for this . I know this is happening due to
 the addition of phosphate ion but I need to study the binding of ions . So,
 what shall I do ??


 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Terminology/**
 Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_**Unstable_Systemhttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion

2011-09-27 Thread bharat gupta
it's showing error that certain atoms cannot be settled and these atoms are
of solvent molecules i.e. Water


On Wednesday, September 28, 2011, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.edu
wrote:
 What is actually blowing up?  The protein or the phosphate ions?  Do the
phosphate ions run OK by themselves in water?



 Catch ya,

 Dr. Dallas Warren

 Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action

 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
 381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
 dallas.war...@monash.edu

 +61 3 9903 9304
 -
 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a
nail.



 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of bharat gupta
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:48 PM
 To: jalem...@vt.edu; Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: simulation of protein/water and phosphate ion



 Hi,

 I tried simulating the system again but this time with 2 phsophate ion and
the charge of the system was neutralized by adding 6 sodium ions . After
minimizing , I equilibrated for 500 ps but I got LINCS error around
300ps.  It's happening due to the addition of phosphate ions as I have
simulated my protein in water earlier without any problem. During nvt
quilibration the temperature coupling settings were for Protein and Non
protein groups. Do I have to make groups for Protein and water_ion. Please
comment??

 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 bharat gupta wrote:

 HI,

 I have tried simulating my protein (GFP) solvated with water molecules and
10 phosphate ions. During the md run step the system starts exploding after
 500 ps. What could be the reason for this . I know this is happening due to
the addition of phosphate ion but I need to study the binding of ions . So,
what shall I do ??




http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System

 -Justin

 --
 

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 Ph.D. Candidate
 ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
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[gmx-users] converting psf file to gromacs .itp file

2011-06-28 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

Is there any way to convert NAMD generated psf file to GROMACS .itp file as
I have generated the parameters for my compound using NAMD..

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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding ffG43a1p force field

2011-06-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

It will be of great help to send the force field. actually I want to know
whether it was working fine for u or not ?? ... Pls send the file and if
it's working fine then I think you can deposit it in User contributions in
gromacs repository...

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why you are doing simulation without chromophore? Chromophore is important
 in GFP. If you want i can send you the forcefield which i am using for GFP.

 Rama


 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Sir,

 Actually I am doing the simulation without the chromophore. So, planarity
 does not matter to be ..



 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Bharat,
 I used Amber force field, but still i am not statisfied with the
 parameters which i used because after some nanosecond simulation(1 -2 ns)
 the planarity of the sturcture changes. I tired changing the force
 constant but still not much successfull. If you got success please let me
 know.

 with regards,
 Rama

 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:11 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to simulate a docked complex of my protein (GFP) with
 phosphotyrosine. I have found this - ffG43a1p forcefield contains 
 parameters
 for pTYR, so I want to know how good is this FF for simulating my system...
 As in the literature its mentioned that people have used CHARMM, AMBER, 
 OPLS
 ff for simulation of GFP. So, using this will be a correct choice or not 
 ...

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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding ffG43a1p force field

2011-06-23 Thread bharat gupta
ok sir..


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
That is the problem. Yet i do not know whether it is working fine
 not.i have been working with that for nearly 9-10months but not
 satisfied yet.
 In the following mail i will cut and paste the force field parameters which
 you can use it with amber. If you have time please go ahead and modify
 according to your wish.

 Regards,
 Rama



 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:27 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Sir,

 It will be of great help to send the force field. actually I want to know
 whether it was working fine for u or not ?? ... Pls send the file and if
 it's working fine then I think you can deposit it in User contributions in
 gromacs repository...


 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why you are doing simulation without chromophore? Chromophore is
 important in GFP. If you want i can send you the forcefield which i am using
 for GFP.
 Rama


 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Sir,

 Actually I am doing the simulation without the chromophore. So,
 planarity does not matter to be ..



 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Bharat,
 I used Amber force field, but still i am not statisfied with the
 parameters which i used because after some nanosecond simulation(1 -2 ns)
 the planarity of the sturcture changes. I tired changing the force
 constant but still not much successfull. If you got success please let me
 know.

 with regards,
 Rama

 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:11 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to simulate a docked complex of my protein (GFP) with
 phosphotyrosine. I have found this - ffG43a1p forcefield contains 
 parameters
 for pTYR, so I want to know how good is this FF for simulating my 
 system...
 As in the literature its mentioned that people have used CHARMM, AMBER, 
 OPLS
 ff for simulation of GFP. So, using this will be a correct choice or not 
 ...

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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding ffG43a1p force field

2011-06-23 Thread bharat gupta
these are in continuity I mean for the ffbonded.itp file

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 more parameters - ffbonded.itp
 NBCT   10.1444294553.6
 NBC10.1404334720.0
 C  CC  10.1407343088.0
 CCCB   10.1474468608.0
  CB H2 10.1076129960.25

 to aminoacids.hdb
 1   1   HE2 CE2 CZ  CD2
 1   1   HE1 CE1 CZ  CD1
 1   1   HD1 CD1 CG2 CE1
 1   1   HD2 CD2 CG2 CE2
 1   2   HH  OH  CZ  CE1
 1   1   HB2 CB2 CA2 CG2
 1   2   HG1 OG1 CB1 CA1
 1   1   H   N  CA1 C1






 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.com wrote:

 For ffbonded.itp, i added the following. (you need to be carefull here
 since i cooked upto the force constants)
  C CCCBCA9 180.0   4.309   1
  NBCCC O 9 180.0   4.309   1 ;
  NBCCCBCA9 180.0   4.309   1
  NBCCCBH29 180.0   4.309   1
  C CCCBH29 180.0   4.309   1
  NBCCC NB9 180.0   4.0876  1
  CTNBC CC9 180.0   4.0876  1
  CTNBC O 9 180.0   4.0876  1
  CBCCC NB9 180.0   4.0876  1
  CBCCC O 9 180.0   4.0876  1
  CCC NBCC9 180.0   4.7656  1
  O C NBCC9 180.0   4.7656  1;
  CCNBCTC 9 180.0   4.1400  1;
  C NBCTC 9 180.0   4.1400  1 ;
  CTCTOHHO4 180.0   4.1400  1 ;
  OH   CTCT CC9   0.0   4.1400  1
  OH   CTCT N 9 180.0   4.9162  1

 ; added newly  improper dihedrals
  CBCCCA   H2   4   180.04.1840 2
  CCNBCB   C4   180.04.1840 2
  CCCTNB   NB   4   180.04.1840 2
  CTN CC   CT   4   144.64   3.1840 2
  NBO CC   C4   180.04.1840 2
  NBCCCCT   4   180.04.1840 2
  CACBCA   CA   4   180.04.1840 2
  CAHACA   CA   4   180.04.1840 2
 ; added to test
  N   CT   CH4   180.04.1840  2




 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Ramachandran G gtr...@gmail.comwrote:

 For the GFP chromophore  i name residue as CRIH.
 1. aminoacids.rtp
CB2 CB 0.019103   1
CA2 CC-0.026635   2
N2  NB-0.436463   3
C1  CC 0.302706   4
N3  NB-0.541478   5
C2  C  0.563844   6
OC2 O -0.394118   7
CG2 CA-0.079330   8
CZ  CA 0.240178   9
CD1 CA-0.072596  10
HD1 HA 0.129374  11
CD2 CA-0.070677  12
HD2 HA 0.091532  13
CE1 CA-0.129374  14
HE1 HA 0.091792  15
CE2 CA-0.087778  16
HE2 HA 0.112301  17
OH  OH-0.454413  18
H   H  0.37107   19
HH  HO 0.258435  20
N   N -0.61682   21
CA1 CT-0.116631  22
CB1 CT-0.03127   23
OG1 OH-0.74662   24
HG1 HO 0.45887   25
HB2 H2 0.116716  26
CA3 CT-0.250251  27
CC 0.35254   28
OO-0.48366   29
  [ bonds ]
C1  CA1
N3  CA3
N3  C1
N3  C2
C2  OC2
C1  N2
C2  CA2
N2  CA2
CA2 CB2
CB2 CG2
CG2 CD1
CG2 CD2
CD1 CE1
CD2 CE2
CE1 CZ
CE2 CZ
CZ  OH
CB1 OG1
OH  HH
CB2 HB2
CD1 HD1
CD2 HD2
CE1 HE1
CE2 HE2
CA1 N
CA1 CB1
CA3 C
 C  O
OG1 CB1
OG1 HG1
 N  H
-C  N
+N  C
  [ angles ]
 ;  aiajak   th0 cth ub0 cub
   N2   C1   N3 114.0  1087.87
   C1N2   CA2   106.0  1087.87
   C1N3   C2107.9  1087.87
   N2CA2  C2108.3 1087.87
   N2CA2  CB2   129.5  376.56
   C2N3   CA3   123.4  267.776
   N3C2   OC2   126.0  351.456
   N3C2   CA2   103.0 1087.87
   OC2   C2   CA2   132.0  317.984
   C2CA2  CB2   122.0  376.56
   CA2   CB2  CG2   130.0 1087.87
   CB2   CG2  CD1   121.0  383.2544
   CB2   CG2  CD2   121.0  383.2544
   CG2   CD1  CE1   120.0  334.72
   CG2   CD2  

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