Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



darre...@ece.ubc.ca wrote:

Hi Justin,
I am using version 3.3.3 and read through the version 3.3 manual but do
not see an option to set "pbc = full" in this manual. I only see
options to set pbc to "xyz" or "no". Will setting pbc=full be
recognized in GROAMCS version 3.3.3 and will this solve my problem?



Yes, it will.  I don't know why it was never in the documetation.



I should amend that.  Yes, the option will be recognized.  It is probably in 
line with what you need for an infinite molecule.  No guarantees that anything 
will work just because I say it will, although that would be so very 
convenient... :)


-Justin

--


Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



darre...@ece.ubc.ca wrote:

Hi Justin,
I am using version 3.3.3 and read through the version 3.3 manual but do
not see an option to set "pbc = full" in this manual. I only see
options to set pbc to "xyz" or "no". Will setting pbc=full be
recognized in GROAMCS version 3.3.3 and will this solve my problem?



Yes, it will.  I don't know why it was never in the documetation.

-Justin


Thanks.

Darrell


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:45:13 -0400
From: "Justin A. Lemkul" 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab8aab9.7010...@vt.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



Mark Abraham wrote:

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Hi Mark,
Yes, I have had success running many GROMACS simulations with a simple
graphene sheet inside a box.
I believe I have regenerated the .tpr file from the new .mdp as the
very first command I issue is:
grompp -np $NUM_PROCS  -f em.mdp -c $GRO_FILE -p $TOP_FILE -o
emtopol.tpr -n index.ndx

Please advise me on what I may be doing wrong.

Also, note that there appears to be no reference to the statement
"periodic_molecules = yes" in the GROMACS manual as I did a search in
the manual for  "periodic_molecules" and the search came back empty.

One error was not mentioning your GROMACS version. :-) Your grompp
command line above is for some 3.x version, not some 4.x version.
periodic_molecules is a 4.x feature (but mentioned only in section 7.3
IIRC). I've no idea how to solve your problem for 3.x, but if you can
reasonably upgrade, you should.


In the 3.x series, the option to use is "pbc = full," but as Mark suggests,
upgrading to 4.0.5 is probably a better idea.

-Justin


Mark


Thanks.

Darrell

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:03 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab85b77.10...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:


Hi Mark,
I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp
files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.

So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp

files > and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to
resolve > the problem as I received the same warning.


Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy.
Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp.
That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.

Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon
Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal
GROMACS simulations?

Mark



Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:


Dear GROMACS-ians,
I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running

grompp, I >>> get the following response:

/Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance

19.679 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance

19.553 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/

I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box

are >>> being seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of
the PBC, >>> but the shortest distance between the atoms is not
being observed. Is >>> this the problem? Is this problem resulting
in the system exploding? >>> And, how do I resolve this problem?

Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?

Mark


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before
posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.
Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.
Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.

[gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread darrellk

Hi Justin,
I am using version 3.3.3 and read through the version 3.3 manual but do
not see an option to set "pbc = full" in this manual. I only see
options to set pbc to "xyz" or "no". Will setting pbc=full be
recognized in GROAMCS version 3.3.3 and will this solve my problem?

Thanks.

Darrell

>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:45:13 -0400
>From: "Justin A. Lemkul" 
>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>Message-ID: <4ab8aab9.7010...@vt.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
>Mark Abraham wrote:
>> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Yes, I have had success running many GROMACS simulations with a simple
>>> graphene sheet inside a box.
>>> I believe I have regenerated the .tpr file from the new .mdp as the
>>> very first command I issue is:
>>> grompp -np $NUM_PROCS  -f em.mdp -c $GRO_FILE -p $TOP_FILE -o
>>> emtopol.tpr -n index.ndx
>>>
>>> Please advise me on what I may be doing wrong.
>>>
>>> Also, note that there appears to be no reference to the statement
>>> "periodic_molecules = yes" in the GROMACS manual as I did a search in
>>> the manual for  "periodic_molecules" and the search came back empty.
>>
>> One error was not mentioning your GROMACS version. :-) Your grompp
>> command line above is for some 3.x version, not some 4.x version.
>> periodic_molecules is a 4.x feature (but mentioned only in section 7.3
>> IIRC). I've no idea how to solve your problem for 3.x, but if you can
>> reasonably upgrade, you should.
>>
>
>In the 3.x series, the option to use is "pbc = full," but as Mark suggests,
>upgrading to 4.0.5 is probably a better idea.
>
>-Justin
>
>> Mark
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Darrell
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:03 +1000
>>> From: Mark Abraham 
>>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>>> Message-ID: <4ab85b77.10...@anu.edu.au>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Hi Mark,
>>>> > I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp
>>>> > files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.
>>>> > > So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp
>>>> files > and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to
>>>> resolve > the problem as I received the same warning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy.
>>> Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp.
>>> That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.
>>>
>>> Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon
>>> Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal
>>> GROMACS simulations?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
>>>>> >> From: Mark Abraham 
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>>>>> >> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>>>>> >> Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
>>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Dear GROMACS-ians,
>>>>>> >>> I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running
>>>>>> grompp, I >>> get the following response:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> /Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance
>>>>>> 19.679 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>>>>>> >>> Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance
>>>>>> 19.553 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>>>>>> >>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>>>>>> >>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>>>>>> >>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp f

Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Mark Abraham wrote:

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Hi Mark,
Yes, I have had success running many GROMACS simulations with a simple 
graphene sheet inside a box.
I believe I have regenerated the .tpr file from the new .mdp as the 
very first command I issue is:
grompp -np $NUM_PROCS  -f em.mdp -c $GRO_FILE -p $TOP_FILE -o 
emtopol.tpr -n index.ndx


Please advise me on what I may be doing wrong.

Also, note that there appears to be no reference to the statement 
"periodic_molecules = yes" in the GROMACS manual as I did a search in 
the manual for  "periodic_molecules" and the search came back empty.


One error was not mentioning your GROMACS version. :-) Your grompp 
command line above is for some 3.x version, not some 4.x version. 
periodic_molecules is a 4.x feature (but mentioned only in section 7.3 
IIRC). I've no idea how to solve your problem for 3.x, but if you can 
reasonably upgrade, you should.




In the 3.x series, the option to use is "pbc = full," but as Mark suggests, 
upgrading to 4.0.5 is probably a better idea.


-Justin


Mark


Thanks.

Darrell

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:03 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab85b77.10...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:


> Hi Mark,
> I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp 
> files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.
> > So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp 
files > and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to 
resolve > the problem as I received the same warning.
  


Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy. 
Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp. 
That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.


Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon 
Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal 
GROMACS simulations?


Mark



>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
>> From: Mark Abraham 
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>> Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>>

>>> Dear GROMACS-ians,
>>> I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running 
grompp, I >>> get the following response:

>>>
>>> /Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 
19.679 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>>> Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 
19.553 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/
>>>
>>> I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box 
are >>> being seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of 
the PBC, >>> but the shortest distance between the atoms is not 
being observed. Is >>> this the problem? Is this problem resulting 
in the system exploding? >>> And, how do I resolve this problem?
>>>   

>>
>> Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?
>>
>> Mark
>>   

___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before 
posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www 
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www 
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php



--


Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread Mark Abraham

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Hi Mark,
Yes, I have had success running many GROMACS simulations with a simple 
graphene sheet inside a box.
I believe I have regenerated the .tpr file from the new .mdp as the very 
first command I issue is:
grompp -np $NUM_PROCS  -f em.mdp -c $GRO_FILE -p $TOP_FILE -o 
emtopol.tpr -n index.ndx


Please advise me on what I may be doing wrong.

Also, note that there appears to be no reference to the statement 
"periodic_molecules = yes" in the GROMACS manual as I did a search in 
the manual for  "periodic_molecules" and the search came back empty.


One error was not mentioning your GROMACS version. :-) Your grompp 
command line above is for some 3.x version, not some 4.x version. 
periodic_molecules is a 4.x feature (but mentioned only in section 7.3 
IIRC). I've no idea how to solve your problem for 3.x, but if you can 
reasonably upgrade, you should.


Mark


Thanks.

Darrell

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:03 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab85b77.10...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:


> Hi Mark,
> I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp 
> files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.
> > So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp 
files > and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to 
resolve > the problem as I received the same warning.
  


Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy. 
Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp. 
That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.


Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon 
Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal GROMACS 
simulations?


Mark



>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
>> From: Mark Abraham 
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>> Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>> 

>>> Dear GROMACS-ians,
>>> I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running 
grompp, I >>> get the following response:

>>>
>>> /Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 
19.679 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>>> Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 
19.553 >>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/
>>>
>>> I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are 
>>> being seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the 
PBC, >>> but the shortest distance between the atoms is not being 
observed. Is >>> this the problem? Is this problem resulting in the 
system exploding? >>> And, how do I resolve this problem?
>>>   

>>
>> Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?
>>
>> Mark
>>   

___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www 
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


[gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-22 Thread Darrell Koskinen

Hi Mark,
Yes, I have had success running many GROMACS simulations with a simple graphene sheet inside a box. 


I believe I have regenerated the .tpr file from the new .mdp as the very first 
command I issue is:
grompp -np $NUM_PROCS  -f em.mdp -c $GRO_FILE -p $TOP_FILE -o emtopol.tpr -n 
index.ndx

Please advise me on what I may be doing wrong.

Also, note that there appears to be no reference to the statement "periodic_molecules = 
yes" in the GROMACS manual as I did a search in the manual for  "periodic_molecules" 
and the search came back empty.

Thanks.

Darrell

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:03 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab85b77.10...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:


> Hi Mark,
> I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp 
> files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.
> 
> So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp files 
> and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to resolve 
> the problem as I received the same warning.
  


Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy. 
Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp. 
That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.


Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon 
Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal GROMACS 
simulations?


Mark



>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
>> From: Mark Abraham 
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>> Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Darrell Koskinen wrote:
>>  


>>> Dear GROMACS-ians,
>>> I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running grompp, I 
>>> get the following response:

>>>
>>> /Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 19.679 
>>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>>> Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 19.553 
>>> which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
>>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/
>>>
>>> I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are 
>>> being seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC, 
>>> but the shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is 
>>> this the problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? 
>>> And, how do I resolve this problem?
>>> 
  

>>
>> Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?
>>
>> Mark
>>   


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Abraham

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Hi Mark,
I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp 
files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.


So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp files 
and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to resolve 
the problem as I received the same warning.


Well that's a pretty basic requirement that you needed to satisfy. 
Obviously you also need to re-generate your .tpr from the new .mdp. 
That'd be the most likely reason for an *identical* output.


Have you done enough background reading (e.g. wiki page on Carbon 
Nanotube simulations) and/or gotten some experience with normal GROMACS 
simulations?


Mark


Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:
 

Dear GROMACS-ians,
I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running grompp, I 
get the following response:


/Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 19.679 
which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 19.553 
which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/

I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are 
being seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC, 
but the shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is 
this the problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? 
And, how do I resolve this problem?



Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?

Mark
  

___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www 
interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


[gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-21 Thread Darrell Koskinen

Hi Mark,
I did not have the statement "periodic_molecules = yes" in the .mdp 
files. I only had the statement "pbc=xyz" in the .mdp files.


So, I added the "periodic_molecules = yes" statement to the .mdp files 
and ran the simulation again. However, this did not appear to resolve 
the problem as I received the same warning.


Please advise.

Darrell

Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:56:48 +1000
From: Mark Abraham 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Message-ID: <4ab723b0.6040...@anu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darrell Koskinen wrote:
  

Dear GROMACS-ians,
I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running grompp, I get 
the following response:


/Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 19.679 
which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 19.553 which 
is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/

I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are being 
seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC, but the 
shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is this the 
problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? And, how do 
I resolve this problem?



Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?

Mark
  

___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-21 Thread Omer Markovitch
>
>
> I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are being seen
> by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC,

Are you sure? have you looked at the last "good" frame before this message?
GMX treats PBC as it should during MD neighbour search, so maybe this is a
pair that was initially close and interacting, but later moved away from
each other.


> but the shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is this
> the problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? And, how do
> I resolve this problem?
>
If you are sure that everything else is ok, then extend the table extension.
Two other things to work around this are either reduce timestep or check
that your definition of the box is as it should.
--Omer.
___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.
Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php

Re: [gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Abraham

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Dear GROMACS-ians,
I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running grompp, I get 
the following response:


/Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 19.679 
which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 19.553 which 
is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/

I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are being 
seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC, but the 
shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is this the 
problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? And, how do 
I resolve this problem?


Did you use periodic_molecules = yes in your .mdp file?

Mark
___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php


[gmx-users] 1-4 interaction between atoms in PBC mode

2009-09-20 Thread Darrell Koskinen

Dear GROMACS-ians,
I have created an infinite graphene sheet and upon running grompp, I get 
the following response:


/Warning: 1-4 interaction between 10085 and 10445 at distance 19.679 
which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
Warning: 1-4 interaction between 9244 and 9963 at distance 19.553 which 
is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm

These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation/

I assume that atoms from opposite ends of the simulation box are being 
seen by GROMACS as being 1-4 neighbors as a result of the PBC, but the 
shortest distance between the atoms is not being observed. Is this the 
problem? Is this problem resulting in the system exploding? And, how do 
I resolve this problem?


Thanks.

Darrell
___
gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org
http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting!
Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the 
www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.

Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php