[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2013-03-25 Thread santhosh
Hello All,

While doing NMR refinement or custom force addition, it can happen than the
force on the system can push the peptide plane atoms out of the plane. [
like the amide bond is pushed out of the plane to satisfy the external force
or the omega angle is deformed beyond acceptable values]. To control this
behavior, I want to employ dihedral restrains on my system. 

I have understood the format and the required steps but the results of a
short simulation are not as expected.

For example :
#18 : C of resid 1 ; 20 : N of resid 2 ; 5 : CA of resid 1 ; 22 : CA of
resid 2
# 19 : O of resid 1 ; 21 : H of resid 2. 
#; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  dphi  kfac  power
5   18  20  22  1   0   180.00  4   1   
1
19  18  20  22  1   0   0.004   
1   1
5   18  20  21  1   0   180.00  4   1   
1
19  18  20  21  1   0   0.004   
1   1

In the .mdp file, i have 
;dihedral restraints
dihre   =  yes
dihre_fc=  50 ; or whatever value you desire
nstdihreout =  50

I ran a short 2000 step simulation and over the period of time I tracked the
four dihedral values, every row is a timestep.
#the first line is the restrained reference value. 
 180 0  
 180  
0
-147.287215895064   9.45865329024718-159.203988508429   
-2.45811932311724
-111.050389450397   -81.9953887566147   -92.0822326476887   
-63.0272319539059
-110.958596230868   -73.8376501933164   -92.9130172813275   
-55.7920712437757
-112.517830994369   -59.5426717504823   -102.604122568900   
-49.6289633250131
-100.996135584400   -74.4228693635875   -87.2297061267471   
-60.6564399059348
-93.9669086707340   -57.7658765173159   -86.3382092652599   
-50.1371771118417
-95.0591618723864   -66.9832558152160   -85.0934054990846   
-57.0174994419143
-94.2190629339560   -52.6947808390542   -91.1562898592925   
-49.6320077643907
-87.5354914279667   -69.2330638322494   -73.2840411103266   
-54.9816135146093
-112.405078265351   -73.0596345313864   -97.4992184521689   
-58.1537747182041

As you can see, the value moves away from the reference value as the
simulation goes on. 
Any hints about any possible mistake in my implementation would be
appreciated. 

Thanks
Santhosh





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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints in 4.6 vs 4.5.X

2013-03-18 Thread Per Larsson
Thanks  - I have filed issue #1194 and assigned it to David.
http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1194

Let me know if there is anything else that is needed. I could take a shot at 
myself, and will play around with it, but I don't know the details of the 
symtab in any detail, unfortunately. 

15 mar 2013 kl. 19:51 skrev David van der Spoel:
 
 Taking away the restraint allows me to start the run in 4.6.1, and also 
 reformatting the [ dihedral_restraint ] section to comply with 4.6 works.
 Is this a know issue, am I missing something obvious, or should I file an 
 issue on redmine?
 
 redmine please.
 
 
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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints in 4.6 vs 4.5.X

2013-03-15 Thread Per Larsson
Hi

I anyone aware of any issue starting simulations with 4.6 (or 4.6.1) from a 
4.5.X-tpr file with dihedral restraints?
I'm unsuccessful in making them start.

To investigate further, I created a small dialanine peptide in vacuum, with a 
dihedral restraint. 

Here's the details:

Making a 4.5.5 tpr with a dihedral restraint
$grompp -f md.mdp -c conf.gro -p topol.top -o md.tpr

Checking that it is there:
$gmxdump -s md.tpr |grep DIHRE
Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)
functype[166]=DIHRES, label=0, power=   1 phi= 1.2000e+02, dphi= 
3.e+01, kfac= 1.e+00)



Now running this in 4.5.5 works fine, but starting it in 4.6 (or 4.6.1) gives 
me an error.

$ /Users/per/source/gromacs-4.6.1/build/src/kernel/mdrun -v -deffnm md
Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)

---
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6.1
Source code file: /Users/per/source/gromacs-4.6.1/src/gmxlib/symtab.c, line: 136

Fatal error:
symtab get_symtab_handle 1051260126 not found
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Taking away the restraint allows me to start the run in 4.6.1, and also 
reformatting the [ dihedral_restraint ] section to comply with 4.6 works. 
Is this a know issue, am I missing something obvious, or should I file an issue 
on redmine?

Thanks
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints in 4.6 vs 4.5.X

2013-03-15 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2013-03-15 15:31, Per Larsson wrote:

Hi

I anyone aware of any issue starting simulations with 4.6 (or 4.6.1) from a 
4.5.X-tpr file with dihedral restraints?
I'm unsuccessful in making them start.

To investigate further, I created a small dialanine peptide in vacuum, with a 
dihedral restraint.

Here's the details:

Making a 4.5.5 tpr with a dihedral restraint
$grompp -f md.mdp -c conf.gro -p topol.top -o md.tpr

Checking that it is there:
$gmxdump -s md.tpr |grep DIHRE
Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)
 functype[166]=DIHRES, label=0, power=   1 phi= 1.2000e+02, dphi= 
3.e+01, kfac= 1.e+00)



Now running this in 4.5.5 works fine, but starting it in 4.6 (or 4.6.1) gives 
me an error.

$ /Users/per/source/gromacs-4.6.1/build/src/kernel/mdrun -v -deffnm md
Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)

---
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6.1
Source code file: /Users/per/source/gromacs-4.6.1/src/gmxlib/symtab.c, line: 136

Fatal error:
symtab get_symtab_handle 1051260126 not found
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Taking away the restraint allows me to start the run in 4.6.1, and also 
reformatting the [ dihedral_restraint ] section to comply with 4.6 works.
Is this a know issue, am I missing something obvious, or should I file an issue 
on redmine?


redmine please.



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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2012-06-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried restraining two residues of my peptide . The restraints were added
after dihedrals in the top file. Here's how the .top file looks :

[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3
   16 41817 2
   18162019 2
   25222726 2
   25272226 2
   27252928 2
   27252829 2
   30203231 2
   32303433 2
   37343938 2
   39374140 2
   48465049 2
   48504649 2
   50485251 2
   50524851 2
   52475053 2
   52504753 2
   54415655 2

[ dihedral_restraints ]
; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  dphi  kfac  power
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  16   18 2030 1  1  -60 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  18   2030  32 1  1  -30 0 5  2
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  30   32 3437 1  1  -90 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  323437  39  17 1  1  0 0 5  2


I am getting the following error when I used the grompp command :-

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1631

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 4, expected 5 or 5 for Dih. Rest..
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
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You Fill Your Space So Sweet (F. Apple)



Where did I do the mistake , can anybody guide me in this regard ?? , Also
I don't know what should be the value for power and kfac , what I need is
that the angles should be restrained to what I mentioned in file.

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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2012-06-16 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried restraining two residues of my peptide . The restraints were added
after dihedrals in the top file. Here's how the .top file looks :

[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3
   16 41817 2
   18162019 2
   25222726 2
   25272226 2
   27252928 2
   27252829 2
   30203231 2
   32303433 2
   37343938 2
   39374140 2
   48465049 2
   48504649 2
   50485251 2
   50524851 2
   52475053 2
   52504753 2
   54415655 2

[ dihedral_restraints ]
; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  dphi  kfac  power
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  16   18 2030 1  1  -60 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  18   2030  32 1  1  -30 0 5  2
; phi C'(n-1) - N - CA - C'
  30   32 3437 1  1  -90 0 5  2
; psi N - CA - C' - N(n+1)
  323437  39  17 1  1  0 0 5  2


I am getting the following error when I used the grompp command :-

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1631

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 4, expected 5 or 5 for Dih. Rest..
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

You Fill Your Space So Sweet (F. Apple)



Where did I do the mistake , can anybody guide me in this regard ?? , Also
I don't know what should be the value for power and kfac , what I need is
that the angles should be restrained to what I mentioned in file.

Regards

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[gmx-users] dihedral restraints documentation

2011-10-05 Thread David Mobley
Just a note concerning dihedral restraints documentation -- the function and
default behavior of dihre-fc needs to be documented somewhere in the manual.
I just spent a couple hours (and my student a couple of days!) trying to
track down the source of some crashes which ended up being due to the
difference between specifying

dihre-fc = 1

in our topology file, and not specifying anything at all.

THis how-to documents what dihre-fc DOES (
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Dihedral_Restraints) but it is
not mentioned anywhere in the gromacs manual at all. It turns out dihre-fc
defaults to 1000, so the difference between dihre-fc = 1 and omitting
dihre-fc is a factor of 1000 in dihedral restraint strength. This is enough
(since it's a multiplier!) to make the difference between simulations
reliably crashing and simulations not crashing at all...

This clearly should be documented in the manual since (with this behavior)
knowing what value of dihre-fc one is using is critical to knowing what
dihedral restraint strength one is using.

Thanks.


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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral Restraints

2011-03-07 Thread Alexander Bujotzek
The piece of code in dihres.c does it right (at least for the energy I
would say... can't say anything about the force)... but the equation in
the manual is wrong or at least misleading.



 On 05/03/11, Sai Pooja  saipo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

  

 In Manual 4.5.3, the potential for dihedral restraints is the following:

  

 Phi* = (Phi - Phi0)MOD 2Pi

  

 Where Phi is the instantaneous dihedral and Phi0 is the reference
 dihedral. And the MOD2Pi, I assume, ensures a difference 2Pi.

  

 The Potential is: V=0.5*K*(Phi* - Phi0 -deltaPhi)**2  for all
 Phi*   deltaPhi and so on ...

  

 I am just confused if this is just a typo? Why are we subtracting Phi0
 TWICE??



 There's an outstanding Redmine issue on this topic -
 http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/597. Please contribute anything useful.

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[gmx-users] Dihedral Restraints

2011-03-04 Thread Sai Pooja
Hi,

In Manual 4.5.3, the potential for dihedral restraints is the following:

Phi* = (Phi - Phi0)MOD 2Pi

Where Phi is the instantaneous dihedral and Phi0 is the reference dihedral.
And the MOD2Pi, I assume, ensures a difference 2Pi.

The Potential is: V=0.5*K*(Phi* - Phi0 -deltaPhi)**2  for all Phi*
 deltaPhi and so on ...

I am just confused if this is just a typo? Why are we subtracting Phi0
TWICE??


Pooja



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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral Restraints

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Abraham


On 05/03/11, Sai Pooja  saipo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
  
 
 In Manual 4.5.3, the potential for dihedral restraints is the following:
 
  
 
 Phi* = (Phi - Phi0)MOD 2Pi
 
  
 
 Where Phi is the instantaneous dihedral and Phi0 is the reference dihedral. 
 And the MOD2Pi, I assume, ensures a difference 2Pi.
 
  
 
 The Potential is: V=0.5*K*(Phi* - Phi0 -deltaPhi)**2  for all Phi*   
 deltaPhi and so on ...
 
  
 
 I am just confused if this is just a typo? Why are we subtracting Phi0 TWICE??
 
 

There's an outstanding Redmine issue on this topic - 
http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/597. Please contribute anything useful.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints in gromacs 4.0.5

2009-12-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Steven Ari Beasley wrote:
has anyone successfully incorporated dihedral angle restraints in 
gromacs 4.0.5 protein simulation.   i can only find instructions for 
gromacs 3.3.1, nothing in the manual. 



Do these instructions not work?

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Dihedral_Restraints

i don't know if the format is the same or whether it requires diffent 
.mdp flags, but so far i have not been able to successfully run a 


I don't believe there have been any changes as far as .mdp keywords (dihre_tau 
might be ignored, but I can't remember at the moment).  If you post what you're 
trying and any errors that you receive or evidence that the restraints are not 
working, that would be useful in providing assistance.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Behnoush Zare
Dear chris,

Thank you for your help about performing dihedral restraints. Would you please 
kindly explain to me how I can measure the value of dihedral angles between two 
amin acids (I mean C'-N-C-C' and N-C-C'-N).
Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.

Behnoush
 
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I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints

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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Xavier Periole



Thank you for your help about performing dihedral restraints. Would you 
please kindly explain to me how I can measure the value of dihedral angles 
between two amin acids (I mean C'-N-C-C' and N-C-C'-N).

Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.


Well this should really be easy to find out! check out the manual,
there is section ANALYSIS ... g_angle is one option.



Behnoush

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Subject: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints

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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Abraham

Behnoush Zare wrote:

Dear xavier,
Thank you for your reply bur I want to run md simulation with regarding 
dihedral restraints on helices. According to the chris suggestion I should add 
the dihedral values of the helices backbone to the .top file. My question is 
about calculating of dihedral angles values. Any help would be appreciated.


If you're after canonical values for backbone dihedral angles in 
helices, then you should check out some textbook material, or survey 
some representative structures in the PDB and measure them there.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Behnoush Zare
Dear xavier,
Thank you for your reply bur I want to run md simulation with regarding 
dihedral restraints on helices. According to the chris suggestion I should add 
the dihedral values of the helices backbone to the .top file. My question is 
about calculating of dihedral angles values. Any help would be appreciated.
Behnoush
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 Thank you for your help about performing dihedral restraints. Would you 
please kindly explain to me how I can measure the value of dihedral angles 
between two amin acids (I mean C'-N-C-C' and N-C-C'-N).
 Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.

Well this should really be easy to find out! check out the manual,
there is section ANALYSIS ... g_angle is one option.

 
 Behnoush
 
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 I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.
 
 http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Abraham

Behnoush Zare wrote:
Dear chris, 


According to your note about dihedral restraints, how I can calculate the 
torsional angles of the helix backbone. I performed it using Deepview but 
it took long time. I think there should be more feasible one.


Behnoush,

So far your use of measure and calculate with regard to dihedral 
angles has been vague. I can't tell if you're trying to determine what 
these angles should be restrained to, determine what they are in your 
starting structure, or something else. Either way, the calculation is 
trivial.


You should also have the courtesy to reply to the two people who've made 
suggestions for you, letting them know whether they've been successful 
in working out what you want. Otherwise, people may notice this and 
decide you're not worth their time :-)


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2008-01-29 Thread Behnoush Zare
Dear Mark,

Ofcourse I'm worth your and others time since I reffered to some text and 
gromacs manuals as you and xavier suggest to me and I'm very appreciated. But I 
didn't give any clue. After all I try to be more precise about the replies.

Behnoush 
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

Behnoush Zare wrote:
 Dear chris, 
 
 According to your note about dihedral restraints, how I can calculate the 
 torsional angles of the helix backbone. I performed it using Deepview but 
 it took long time. I think there should be more feasible one.

Behnoush,

So far your use of measure and calculate with regard to dihedral 
angles has been vague. I can't tell if you're trying to determine what 
these angles should be restrained to, determine what they are in your 
starting structure, or something else. Either way, the calculation is 
trivial.

You should also have the courtesy to reply to the two people who've made 
suggestions for you, letting them know whether they've been successful 
in working out what you want. Otherwise, people may notice this and 
decide you're not worth their time :-)

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2008-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul

If I understand what you're trying to do correctly, you want to measure the
dihedral of some given sequence of backbone atoms in your peptide and restrain
this angle to the starting value.  Is that much correct?  I've gotten lost a
bit in this thread as to your intent, and as Mark pointed out, it's getting
difficult to follow.  If that is indeed the case, then Xavier gave you the
answer already.  Use g_angle on your starting structure, using an index group
that specifies the appropriate atoms.  The manual has clear explanations on how
to do this measurement.  I performed a similar calculation on an arbitrary
structure I had around and it worked in less than 2 seconds.

-Justin

Quoting Behnoush Zare [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Mark,

 Ofcourse I'm worth your and others time since I reffered to some text and
 gromacs manuals as you and xavier suggest to me and I'm very appreciated. But
 I didn't give any clue. After all I try to be more precise about the replies.

 Behnoush
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:47:20 AM (GMT+0330) Asia/Tehran
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

 Behnoush Zare wrote:
  Dear chris,
 
  According to your note about dihedral restraints, how I can calculate the
 torsional angles of the helix backbone. I performed it using Deepview but
 it took long time. I think there should be more feasible one.

 Behnoush,

 So far your use of measure and calculate with regard to dihedral
 angles has been vague. I can't tell if you're trying to determine what
 these angles should be restrained to, determine what they are in your
 starting structure, or something else. Either way, the calculation is
 trivial.

 You should also have the courtesy to reply to the two people who've made
 suggestions for you, letting them know whether they've been successful
 in working out what you want. Otherwise, people may notice this and
 decide you're not worth their time :-)

 Mark
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[gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Neale
Ofcourse I'm worth your and others time since I reffered to some text and gromacs manuals as you and xavier suggest to me and 
I'm very appreciated. But I didn't give any clue. After all I try to be more precise about the replies.


The best way to return the favour is to post a message back to the list 
detailing what happened when you attempted their suggestion.
Replies such as your suggestion didn't work are not helpful. It would be much more useful to say I tried g_angle by using the 
following command: (list exact command) but it produced X when what I want is Y.


Perhaps the gromacs wiki could benefit from a page outlining some tips for 
using the mailing list.

Behnoush 
Behnoush Zare wrote:
/ Dear chris, 
// 
// According to your note about dihedral restraints, how I can calculate the torsional angles of the helix backbone. I performed it using Deepview but it took long time. I think there should be more feasible one.

/

Behnoush,


So far your use of measure and calculate with regard to dihedral 
angles has been vague. I can't tell if you're trying to determine what 
these angles should be restrained to, determine what they are in your 
starting structure, or something else. Either way, the calculation is 
trivial.


You should also have the courtesy to reply to the two people who've made 
suggestions for you, letting them know whether they've been successful 
in working out what you want. Otherwise, people may notice this and 
decide you're not worth their time :-)


Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Abraham

Chris Neale wrote:
Ofcourse I'm worth your and others time since I reffered to some text 
and gromacs manuals as you and xavier suggest to me and I'm very 
appreciated. But I didn't give any clue. After all I try to be more 
precise about the replies.


The best way to return the favour is to post a message back to the list 
detailing what happened when you attempted their suggestion.
Replies such as your suggestion didn't work are not helpful. It would 
be much more useful to say I tried g_angle by using the following 
command: (list exact command) but it produced X when what I want is Y.


Perhaps the gromacs wiki could benefit from a page outlining some tips 
for using the mailing list.


We have one here... http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Support

Obviously, feel free to expand!

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2008-01-29 Thread Behnoush Zare

Thank you Justin. I tried with g_angle and it worked.It gave me some .xvg files 
such as angdist.xvg , angaver.xvg ,dihfrac.xvg ot dihtrans.xvg and I should 
read the manual more carefully and analyze the outputs. 
Thank you again for your patience.

Behnoush

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If I understand what you're trying to do correctly, you want to measure the
dihedral of some given sequence of backbone atoms in your peptide and restrain
this angle to the starting value.  Is that much correct?  I've gotten lost a
bit in this thread as to your intent, and as Mark pointed out, it's getting
difficult to follow.  If that is indeed the case, then Xavier gave you the
answer already.  Use g_angle on your starting structure, using an index group
that specifies the appropriate atoms.  The manual has clear explanations on how
to do this measurement.  I performed a similar calculation on an arbitrary
structure I had around and it worked in less than 2 seconds.

-Justin

Quoting Behnoush Zare [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Mark,

 Ofcourse I'm worth your and others time since I reffered to some text and
 gromacs manuals as you and xavier suggest to me and I'm very appreciated. But
 I didn't give any clue. After all I try to be more precise about the replies.

 Behnoush
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:47:20 AM (GMT+0330) Asia/Tehran
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

 Behnoush Zare wrote:
  Dear chris,
 
  According to your note about dihedral restraints, how I can calculate the
 torsional angles of the helix backbone. I performed it using Deepview but
 it took long time. I think there should be more feasible one.

 Behnoush,

 So far your use of measure and calculate with regard to dihedral
 angles has been vague. I can't tell if you're trying to determine what
 these angles should be restrained to, determine what they are in your
 starting structure, or something else. Either way, the calculation is
 trivial.

 You should also have the courtesy to reply to the two people who've made
 suggestions for you, letting them know whether they've been successful
 in working out what you want. Otherwise, people may notice this and
 decide you're not worth their time :-)

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints in v3.3 different than v3.3.1 (or broken)

2008-01-28 Thread David Mobley
Chris,

At one point the forces were incorrrect in the dihedral restraints. I
*think* this was in 3.3 but one of the developers will probably know.
I have a note to this effect in one of my publications too but I
haven't the time to find it right now.

David


On Jan 26, 2008 10:43 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is just a notice for the archives.

 I was recently working on a new cluster where only gromacs 3.3 is
 installed. It took me a while to figure out that the [
 dihedral_restraints ] section is either differently implemented or
 broken in 3.3 compared to 3.3.1. Since the online list of revisions is
 not up to date past 3.2, I thought I would put a note on the mailing
 list.

 There is some discussion about versions and dihedral restraints here:
 http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-March/020512.html

 And for using dihedral restraints in 3.3.1, a description is here:
 http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-December/025087.html


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Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints in v3.3 different than v3.3.1 (or broken)

2008-01-27 Thread Behnoush Zare
Dear Dr. Neale,

I try to perform dihedral_restraints on protein helices. Searching on this 
subject in the gromacs manual, wiki.gromacs and gmx-mailing list give me some 
clue but it is not clear for me yet. Also I did some you suggest in following 
address: 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-December/025087.html 

In my top file I added lines below and include all the atoms in the helices in 
case of A,B,C,D:

[ dihedral_restraints ]
; ai   ajakal  type  label  phi  psi   dphi  kfac  power
   AB C D1 1180  180 0 1  2

And in the mdp file I include these lines:
;dihedral restraints
dihre   =  simple
dihre_fc=  100 
dihre_tau   =  0.0
nstdihreout =  50


But I have got error in processing the top file.

Fatal error:
Ther were 1 error(s) processing your input

I have referred to the manual and not found any thing about dihedral_restraints 
details. Would you please explain to me what I should do.
Thank you very much in advance for your kindness and expertize.

Best regards
Behnoush
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:13:42 AM (GMT+0330) Asia/Tehran
Subject: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints in v3.3 different than v3.3.1 (or 
broken)

This is just a notice for the archives.

I was recently working on a new cluster where only gromacs 3.3 is  
installed. It took me a while to figure out that the [  
dihedral_restraints ] section is either differently implemented or  
broken in 3.3 compared to 3.3.1. Since the online list of revisions is  
not up to date past 3.2, I thought I would put a note on the mailing  
list.

There is some discussion about versions and dihedral restraints here:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-March/020512.html

And for using dihedral restraints in 3.3.1, a description is here:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-December/025087.html


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[gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section

2008-01-27 Thread chris . neale

I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints

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[gmx-users] dihedral restraints in v3.3 different than v3.3.1 (or broken)

2008-01-26 Thread chris . neale

This is just a notice for the archives.

I was recently working on a new cluster where only gromacs 3.3 is  
installed. It took me a while to figure out that the [  
dihedral_restraints ] section is either differently implemented or  
broken in 3.3 compared to 3.3.1. Since the online list of revisions is  
not up to date past 3.2, I thought I would put a note on the mailing  
list.


There is some discussion about versions and dihedral restraints here:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-March/020512.html

And for using dihedral restraints in 3.3.1, a description is here:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-December/025087.html


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R: R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-16 Thread STEVENAZZI ANDREA
Dear David
I am desperate actually and would appreciate a lot if you could send me the 
dihres.c that works with version 3.2.
Just in case is not so clear how to add the right lines in the topology file by 
reading the code would you please suggest it to me too?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Andrea


Andrea Stevenazzi
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-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di David Mobley
Inviato: giovedì 16 marzo 2006 0.59
A: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Oggetto: Re: R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

Regarding dihedral restraints in 3.2, the dihres.c section of code
only was a placeholder in 3.2 (it printed out dihedral restraints on
but the dihedral restraints did nothing) but was fixed (sort of)
before release of 3.3. I think the forces were still wrong in t he 3.3
release, though, so even if you get 3.3 working, you will probably
need to get the fixed dihres.c.

I do, however, probably have a dihres.c floating around somewhere that
would work properly with 3.3, and possibly also with 3.2 (at one point
David van der Spoel wrote the section of code after I discovered it
was missing from the 3.2 release). If you are desperate I can dig
around for it.

Thanks,
David


On 3/15/06, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
  Dear David
  I did check the mailing list archives and could not find anything
  related to.
  Moreover, I have experienced some problems with version 3.3 of Gromacs
  related to PME (see the mailing list archives) and I was forced to
  install the 3.2.1 version in order to run a simulation.
 There is a workaround for this too on the ftp site.

  So you are telling me that dihedral restraints can not be set up in the
  3.2 version?
 Don't recall but probably not.

  I beg you pardon if these are stupid questions, but I have started to
  use Gromacs just 2 weeks ago.
  Thanks
  Andrea
 
 
 
  STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
  Dear Gromacs Users
 
  I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide
  (just
  4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral
 
  restraint in the topology file.
 
  I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding
  dihedral
  restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.
 
  However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword
  dihre
  (dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.
 
  If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the
  topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?
 
  Thanks
 
 
  manual is a bit outdated. check mailing list archives. it is possible
  with 3.3
  Best regards
 
  Andrea
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Andrea Stevenazzi
 
  Medicinal  Computer Chemistry
 
  Italfarmaco Research Centre
 
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Re: R: R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-16 Thread Yang Ye

You may consider to use following to get the latest 3.3.

cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


Yang Ye

STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:

Dear David
I am desperate actually and would appreciate a lot if you could send me the 
dihres.c that works with version 3.2.
Just in case is not so clear how to add the right lines in the topology file by 
reading the code would you please suggest it to me too?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Andrea


Andrea Stevenazzi
Medicinal  Computer Chemistry
Italfarmaco Research Centre
Italfarmaco SpA
Via dei Lavoratori 54
20092 Cinisello Balsamo
Milan
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +39-02-64433097
-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di David Mobley
Inviato: giovedì 16 marzo 2006 0.59
A: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Oggetto: Re: R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

Regarding dihedral restraints in 3.2, the dihres.c section of code
only was a placeholder in 3.2 (it printed out dihedral restraints on
but the dihedral restraints did nothing) but was fixed (sort of)
before release of 3.3. I think the forces were still wrong in t he 3.3
release, though, so even if you get 3.3 working, you will probably
need to get the fixed dihres.c.

I do, however, probably have a dihres.c floating around somewhere that
would work properly with 3.3, and possibly also with 3.2 (at one point
David van der Spoel wrote the section of code after I discovered it
was missing from the 3.2 release). If you are desperate I can dig
around for it.

Thanks,
David


On 3/15/06, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:


Dear David
I did check the mailing list archives and could not find anything
related to.
Moreover, I have experienced some problems with version 3.3 of Gromacs
related to PME (see the mailing list archives) and I was forced to
install the 3.2.1 version in order to run a simulation.
  

There is a workaround for this too on the ftp site.



So you are telling me that dihedral restraints can not be set up in the
3.2 version?
  

Don't recall but probably not.



I beg you pardon if these are stupid questions, but I have started to
use Gromacs just 2 weeks ago.
Thanks
Andrea



STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
  

Dear Gromacs Users

I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide


(just
  

4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral

restraint in the topology file.


I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding


dihedral
  

restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.

However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword


dihre
  

(dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.

If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the
topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?

Thanks


manual is a bit outdated. check mailing list archives. it is possible
with 3.3
  

Best regards

Andrea







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Medicinal  Computer Chemistry

Italfarmaco Research Centre

Italfarmaco SpA

Via dei Lavoratori 54

20092 Cinisello Balsamo

Milan

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

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[gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-15 Thread STEVENAZZI ANDREA








Dear Gromacs Users

I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide (just
4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral
restraint in the topology file.

I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding dihedral
restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.

However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword dihre
(dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.

If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the
topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?

Thanks

Best regards

Andrea







Andrea
Stevenazzi

Medicinal
 Computer Chemistry

Italfarmaco
Research Centre

Italfarmaco
SpA

Via
dei Lavoratori 54

20092
Cinisello Balsamo

Milan

E-mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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+39-02-64433097








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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-15 Thread David van der Spoel

STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users

I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide (just 
4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral 
restraint in the topology file.


I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding dihedral 
restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.


However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword dihre 
(dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.


If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the 
topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?


Thanks



manual is a bit outdated. check mailing list archives. it is possible 
with 3.3


Best regards

Andrea

 

 

 


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Medicinal  Computer Chemistry

Italfarmaco Research Centre

Italfarmaco SpA

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R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-15 Thread STEVENAZZI ANDREA
Dear David
I did check the mailing list archives and could not find anything
related to.
Moreover, I have experienced some problems with version 3.3 of Gromacs
related to PME (see the mailing list archives) and I was forced to
install the 3.2.1 version in order to run a simulation.
So you are telling me that dihedral restraints can not be set up in the
3.2 version?
I beg you pardon if these are stupid questions, but I have started to
use Gromacs just 2 weeks ago.
Thanks
Andrea 



STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
 Dear Gromacs Users
 
 I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide
(just 
 4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral

 restraint in the topology file.
 
 I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding
dihedral 
 restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.
 
 However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword
dihre 
 (dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.
 
 If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the 
 topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?
 
 Thanks


manual is a bit outdated. check mailing list archives. it is possible 
with 3.3
 
 Best regards
 
 Andrea
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 Andrea Stevenazzi
 
 Medicinal  Computer Chemistry
 
 Italfarmaco Research Centre
 
 Italfarmaco SpA
 
 Via dei Lavoratori 54
 
 20092 Cinisello Balsamo
 
 Milan
 
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Tel: +39-02-64433097
 
  
 
 


 
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Re: R: [gmx-users] Dihedral restraints

2006-03-15 Thread David Mobley
Regarding dihedral restraints in 3.2, the dihres.c section of code
only was a placeholder in 3.2 (it printed out dihedral restraints on
but the dihedral restraints did nothing) but was fixed (sort of)
before release of 3.3. I think the forces were still wrong in t he 3.3
release, though, so even if you get 3.3 working, you will probably
need to get the fixed dihres.c.

I do, however, probably have a dihres.c floating around somewhere that
would work properly with 3.3, and possibly also with 3.2 (at one point
David van der Spoel wrote the section of code after I discovered it
was missing from the 3.2 release). If you are desperate I can dig
around for it.

Thanks,
David


On 3/15/06, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
  Dear David
  I did check the mailing list archives and could not find anything
  related to.
  Moreover, I have experienced some problems with version 3.3 of Gromacs
  related to PME (see the mailing list archives) and I was forced to
  install the 3.2.1 version in order to run a simulation.
 There is a workaround for this too on the ftp site.

  So you are telling me that dihedral restraints can not be set up in the
  3.2 version?
 Don't recall but probably not.

  I beg you pardon if these are stupid questions, but I have started to
  use Gromacs just 2 weeks ago.
  Thanks
  Andrea
 
 
 
  STEVENAZZI ANDREA wrote:
  Dear Gromacs Users
 
  I am trying to use Gromacs for the MD of a small modified peptide
  (just
  4 residues with one ethylated) and I would like to set up one dihedral
 
  restraint in the topology file.
 
  I have not found anything useful on the paper manual regarding
  dihedral
  restraints and thought that it might not be possible to set them.
 
  However, analysing the mdout.mdp file I realised that the keyword
  dihre
  (dihedral angle restraints) is actually there and can be turned on.
 
  If that is true, does anybody know the right lines to insert in the
  topology file in order to set properly a dihedral restraints?
 
  Thanks
 
 
  manual is a bit outdated. check mailing list archives. it is possible
  with 3.3
  Best regards
 
  Andrea
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Andrea Stevenazzi
 
  Medicinal  Computer Chemistry
 
  Italfarmaco Research Centre
 
  Italfarmaco SpA
 
  Via dei Lavoratori 54
 
  20092 Cinisello Balsamo
 
  Milan
 
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