Re: [gmx-users] Re: Martini with PME, temp two low (ABEL Stephane 175950)

2013-04-25 Thread XAvier Periole

Good. Note however that we do get the right temperature with a dt=20fs with 
Martini so you energy leak might be in the cutoff scheme or the system is 
really badly equilibrated. 

On Apr 25, 2013, at 18:23, ABEL Stephane 175950  wrote:

> Xavier 
> 
> I have followed your suggestion and did a longer NPT equilibration with 
> smaller dt and ntlist values and It works. The Energy and Temp  reach to 
> stables values as i want. 
> 
> thank you again  for your help
> 
> Stephane
> 
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> @ Vitaly
> of course. I know that. My system is neutral  but with charged particles (AOT 
> and Na+).
> 
> @Xavier
> I will try your suggestion and equilibrate my system for a longer period
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> 
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> Well ? 400 ps is rather small and you can expect deviations from so short 
> simulations if you start from an non-equilibrated system. I am not sure what 
> the void is but this indicates that your system might not be equilibrated ?
> 
> You can try to decrease the time step and nstlist to see if you the drop of 
> temperature is due a flow of energy.
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 3:26 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Xavier,
>> 
>> Thank you for your response.
>> 
 nstlist = 10 and the rlist = 1.0
>> My mistake, i did not changes these values when i switched to PME,
>> 
>> I have rerun the simulations for 400 ps in NPT with these changes and 
>> plotted Epot and Temp vs Time The Epot and Temp values are not stables. The 
>> average Temp of the system  is better than previously but fluctuate around 
>> (294 K) instead of 298 K . Note i use gmx4.5.5 to do my calculations.
>> 
>> I have also visualized my  system at the end of the NPT run, the  na+, 
>> water, surfactant, octane molecules  form a slab with void
>> 
>> What's wrong ?
>> 
>> Stephane
>> 
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[gmx-users] Re: Martini with PME, temp two low (ABEL Stephane 175950)

2013-04-25 Thread ABEL Stephane 175950
Xavier 

I have followed your suggestion and did a longer NPT equilibration with smaller 
dt and ntlist values and It works. The Energy and Temp  reach to stables values 
as i want. 

 thank you again  for your help

Stephane

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@ Vitaly
of course. I know that. My system is neutral  but with charged particles (AOT 
and Na+).

@Xavier
I will try your suggestion and equilibrate my system for a longer period

Thanks again

Stephane



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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:52:09 +0200
From: XAvier Periole 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Martini with PME, temp two low
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Well ? 400 ps is rather small and you can expect deviations from so short 
simulations if you start from an non-equilibrated system. I am not sure what 
the void is but this indicates that your system might not be equilibrated ?

You can try to decrease the time step and nstlist to see if you the drop of 
temperature is due a flow of energy.

On Apr 25, 2013, at 3:26 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950  wrote:

> Hello Xavier,
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
>>> nstlist = 10 and the rlist = 1.0
> My mistake, i did not changes these values when i switched to PME,
>
> I have rerun the simulations for 400 ps in NPT with these changes and plotted 
> Epot and Temp vs Time The Epot and Temp values are not stables. The average 
> Temp of the system  is better than previously but fluctuate around (294 K) 
> instead of 298 K . Note i use gmx4.5.5 to do my calculations.
>
> I have also visualized my  system at the end of the NPT run, the  na+, water, 
> surfactant, octane molecules  form a slab with void
>
> What's wrong ?
>
> Stephane
>
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