[gmx-users] Using Gromacs on Condor

2011-04-27 Thread Natalie Stephenson
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone new a way to run mdrun commands through a condor 
system.  I've been told by the people that run our system that unless I can 
split it into seperate threads then I would not be able to run it as a job, 
because it would just get stopped in the morning - which from what I've seen 
would just end my simulation and I would have to start again.

Currently my simulations are taking around a month - which as I'm nearing the 
end of this project is getting quite frustrating as you can imagine.  Any ideas 
on how I can speed this without buying a new computer (which is an idea I've 
had veeto'd from my supervisor many many times!) would be much appreciated!!!

Thanks
Natalie
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Re: [gmx-users] Using Gromacs on Condor

2011-04-27 Thread Peter C. Lai
Work with your condor people to recompile gromacs against MPI on their system,
if that is not already the case.
It's probably helpful to specify +ParallelShutdownPolicy = WAIT_FOR_ALL
in the condor submission file...
See http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor/manual/v7.6/2_9Parallel_Applications.html
Section 2.9.4...

HTH

On 2011-04-27 06:08:54AM -0500, Natalie Stephenson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was wondering if anyone new a way to run mdrun commands through a condor 
 system.  I've been told by the people that run our system that unless I can 
 split it into seperate threads then I would not be able to run it as a job, 
 because it would just get stopped in the morning - which from what I've seen 
 would just end my simulation and I would have to start again.
 
 Currently my simulations are taking around a month - which as I'm nearing the 
 end of this project is getting quite frustrating as you can imagine.  Any 
 ideas on how I can speed this without buying a new computer (which is an idea 
 I've had veeto'd from my supervisor many many times!) would be much 
 appreciated!!!
 
 Thanks
 Natalie

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Re: [gmx-users] Using Gromacs on Condor

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/27/2011 9:08 PM, Natalie Stephenson wrote:

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone new a way to run mdrun commands through a 
condor system.  I've been told by the people that run our system that 
unless I can split it into seperate threads then I would not be able 
to run it as a job, because it would just get stopped in the morning - 
which from what I've seen would just end my simulation and I would 
have to start again.


Condor is not a suitable platform for running molecular dynamics in 
parallel, unfortunately. Low-latency communication is required if the 
processors do not share the same piece of silicon, and nobody running 
Condor will have that. You can get some value from Condor if you have 
several simulations to run, by making it easy to run each one on a 
different machine.


Starting and stopping simulations is not much of a problem, with 
checkpointing in GROMACS 4.x.
Currently my simulations are taking around a month - which as I'm 
nearing the end of this project is getting quite frustrating as you 
can imagine.  Any ideas on how I can speed this without buying a new 
computer (which is an idea I've had veeto'd from my supervisor many 
many times!) would be much appreciated!!!


Sounds like you need to work with your supervisor to change 
expectations, or look around for some free time you can ask for... try 
big or new computing facilities, especially new ones with 
recently-installed under-utilized hardware.


Mark



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