RE: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Yep You are right. I will try my best to change the files accordingly.
Thanks 

> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400
> From: jalem...@vt.edu
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/12 5:02 PM, Elie M wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have 
> > problems.  pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found 
> > in topology residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain 
> > and was able to assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is 
> > easier to use x2top because in the other case I have to change files and I 
> > have no experience in this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What 
> > do you personally think?
> >
> 
> Neither tool is guaranteed to produce a topology for an arbitrary molecule.  
> If 
> g_x2top does not have the right parameters, it will fail.  If pdb2gmx does 
> not 
> have the right parameters, it will fail.  g_x2top further assumes that some 
> generic set of atom types and functional groups will address whatever it is 
> that 
> you're working with.  Sometimes that's appropriate, sometimes it's not.  
> Either 
> way, you're going to have to modify either the .n2t file or the .rtp file for 
> your chosen force field.  Regardless of the route you choose, you're going to 
> have to come up with parameters for your molecule and learn how these files 
> work 
> so you can modify them.  Parameterization is an expert topic for a reason.
> 
> -Justin
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
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Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:02 PM, Elie M wrote:


Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have problems.  
pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found in topology 
residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain and was able to 
assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is easier to use x2top 
because in the other case I have to change files and I have no experience in 
this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What do you personally think?



Neither tool is guaranteed to produce a topology for an arbitrary molecule.  If 
g_x2top does not have the right parameters, it will fail.  If pdb2gmx does not 
have the right parameters, it will fail.  g_x2top further assumes that some 
generic set of atom types and functional groups will address whatever it is that 
you're working with.  Sometimes that's appropriate, sometimes it's not.  Either 
way, you're going to have to modify either the .n2t file or the .rtp file for 
your chosen force field.  Regardless of the route you choose, you're going to 
have to come up with parameters for your molecule and learn how these files work 
so you can modify them.  Parameterization is an expert topic for a reason.


-Justin

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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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RE: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have problems.  
pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found in topology 
residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain and was able to 
assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is easier to use x2top 
because in the other case I have to change files and I have no experience in 
this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What do you personally think?

Regards

> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:32:33 -0400
> From: jalem...@vt.edu
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/12 4:28 PM, Elie M wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> > i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
> > atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
> > Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom 
> > C-2 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not 
> > find forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
> > C-7 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not 
> > find forcefield for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
> > C-13 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not 
> > find forcefield for atom O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
> > O-18 withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 
> > 73 out of 94 atoms
> > I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the 
> > second column partial charges? how to determine these? are they 
> > automatically determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each 
> > atom symbol?  Is there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would 
> > be appreciated. Thanks
> >
> 
> The format is explained in full here:
> 
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/.n2t_File
> 
> The charges and atom types are determined by parameterizing the molecule of 
> interest, but if you're going to do that much work, it's probably simpler to 
> create an .rtp entry and have pdb2gmx do the work.  g_x2top is usually 
> intended 
> to create simple topologies for simple molecules.
> 
> -Justin
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
> 
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Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 4:28 PM, Elie M wrote:


Dear all,
i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom C-2 
with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not find 
forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-7 with 3 
bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield 
for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-13 with 2 bondsCan 
not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom O-18 
withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 73 out of 
94 atoms
I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the second 
column partial charges? how to determine these? are they automatically 
determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each atom symbol?  Is 
there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks



The format is explained in full here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/.n2t_File

The charges and atom types are determined by parameterizing the molecule of 
interest, but if you're going to do that much work, it's probably simpler to 
create an .rtp entry and have pdb2gmx do the work.  g_x2top is usually intended 
to create simple topologies for simple molecules.


-Justin

--


Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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[gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Dear all,
i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom C-2 
with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not find 
forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-7 with 3 
bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield 
for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-13 with 2 bondsCan 
not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom O-18 
withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 73 out of 
94 atoms
I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the second 
column partial charges? how to determine these? are they automatically 
determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each atom symbol?  Is 
there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks

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