Re: Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[Tom Buskey]

Paul Iadonisi said:
>> I see several disadvantages, but no real advantages.  I'd be curious
>> what your motivations were.
>
>  I see one.  Occasionally, you run across albums such as Pink Floyd's
>The Wall where, I believe, there are separate tracks, but the music
>doesn't necessarily stop between tracks.

Someone might want to stream them?  Maybe ogg's streaming software?
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Re: Benson, NH, and open source (fwd)

[Rob Lembree]

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:07, Thomas M. Albright wrote:
> Here's a thought ...

That's a great idea!!!  I already did it!!!  ;-)

Last week, when the budget cuts became an issue in the
media, I emailed his transitional office, giving a quick
open source overview, and introducing the LUG as an
educational and technical resource.  I asked for a personal
call back to set up some initial meetings and to go
into more detail.  I haven't heard back, but will follow
up if I don't.

I'll let you all know how this proceeds.  

This is EXACTLY what I think that LUGs should be doing,
by the way.  If we're not telling others about Linux
and open source, we're kind of a closed group, wouldn't
you think?

regards,
rob

> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:56:29 -0500 (EST)
> From: David R. Dick
> To: Thomas M. Albright
> Subject: Benson, NH, and open source
> 
> 
> Now that Benson is talking about the state's computer
> systems (27 different ones) and the need to integrate
> and otherwise fix them, there is a unique opportunity
> for open source.  I just don't know if there is enough
> gumption around to even begin that battle.
> 
> I don't know if you read slash-dot, but every now
> and then there are encouraging reports about government
> and open source, e.g.,
> 
> http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/12/04/2346215.shtml?tid=19
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Re: Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[Travis Roy]

>   I see one.  Occasionally, you run across albums such as Pink Floyd's
> The Wall where, I believe, there are separate tracks, but the music
> doesn't necessarily stop between tracks.

It doesn't when you rip them either. It's the player that causes the gap
in them with time it takes to load the next file. Winamp has plugins to
stop this (prebuffers the next track) I've used that and I'm sure there's
XMMS plugins that do the same thing.

Also, most burners (if you decided to burn the MP3s back to CD again) that
will let you do disk at once mode and this will remove any gaps on the
newly made audio CD too.
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Re: Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[Paul Iadonisi]

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 11:34, Derek Martin wrote:

[snip]

> 
> I see several disadvantages, but no real advantages.  I'd be curious
> what your motivations were.

  I see one.  Occasionally, you run across albums such as Pink Floyd's
The Wall where, I believe, there are separate tracks, but the music
doesn't necessarily stop between tracks.
  Anyhow, I just tried Ben's cat trick and it works beautifully.  So for
Randy I'd suggest just ripping it normally with grip, one file per track
for the flexibility and just cat the files together when you want to use
it that way (if indeed that's really what you want).
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Benson, NH, and open source (fwd)

[Thomas M. Albright]

Here's a thought ...

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:56:29 -0500 (EST)
From: David R. Dick
To: Thomas M. Albright
Subject: Benson, NH, and open source


Now that Benson is talking about the state's computer
systems (27 different ones) and the need to integrate
and otherwise fix them, there is a unique opportunity
for open source.  I just don't know if there is enough
gumption around to even begin that battle.

I don't know if you read slash-dot, but every now
and then there are encouraging reports about government
and open source, e.g.,

http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/12/04/2346215.shtml?tid=19


-- 
TARogue (Linux user number 234357)
 "There is no right to fair use." -- Preston Padden, head of government
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Re: Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[Matthew J. Brodeur]

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Randy Edwards wrote:

> Just curious: Is grip capable of ripping an entire album into a
> single ogg file?

   Well, sort of.  In the sense that grip can be a front-end to most 
command line rippers and encoders, sure.  If you set the ripper to be 
cdparanoia and included a "1-" on the command line, it would rip from the 
beginning of track one to the end of the disc.
   As Derek pointed out, though, this defeats much of the purpose of a
program like grip and can be done more simply from a command prompt.  A
few minutes with the man pages should reveal a two (or three) command
pipeline that would do the trick.


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Re: Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[bscott]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, at 10:58am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> the extracted audio), and grip (a GUI front-end for everything).  All I
>> have to do is feed the computer CDs, and grip turns them into .ogg files.
> 
> Just curious: Is grip capable of ripping an entire album into a single ogg
> file?

  Uhhh... I'm not sure.  I've never tried.

  Technically, since the CD tracks need to be extracted individually, no
ripper is capable of doing that.  However, equally technically, Vorbis is
supposed to be a pure-stream format, so

cat track1.ogg track2.ogg track3.ogg > album.ogg

should get you what you want.  Note that I haven't tried that either.

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Ripping OGG files (was Re: can't mount cdrom)

[Randy Edwards]

the extracted audio), and grip (a GUI front-end for everything).  All I have
to do is feed the computer CDs, and grip turns them into .ogg files.


   Just curious: Is grip capable of ripping an entire album into a single ogg 
file?

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Re: sortof OT firewalls

[Ben Boulanger]

On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 22:46, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: 
> I've met some who is a windows user with a cable modem.  Can anyone recommend 
> any defensive software she can use ?  Open source is obviously preffered,
> Thanks
> TomR
ZoneAlarm is a fairly decent firewall program for windows.  It seemed
one of the best for windows when I was reviewing them.  The website is: 
http://www.zonelabs.com/

Note, there's zonealarm pro, zonealarm plus and zonealarm - zonealarm is
the only free one and it's at the bottom of the page. 

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Re: sortof OT firewalls

[bscott]

On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, at 10:46pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've met some who is a windows user with a cable modem.  Can anyone
> recommend any defensive software she can use ?  Open source is obviously
> preffered,

  As others have mentioned, the first thing to do is pick up one of those
$90 "home routers" that give you NAT and an elementary firewall.  My
personal favorite is the LinkSys BEFSR series; NetGear, D-Link, and SMC all
make good products as well.  They lack the power of a "real" firewall (like
a Linux or *BSD powered solution), but they are considerably better than
nothing, and are very low-maintenance.

  For the PC itself, you can consider ZoneAlarm (http://www.zonelabs.com).  
It is pretty much the only "personal firewall" software available for
MS-Windows that is worth a damn.  However, as with many Windows programs
that operate at the kernel level, it can also royally hose your system.  Be
sure to take all the usual precautionary steps (backup the registry, create
an ERD, create an SFP checkpoint) before installing it.

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Re: can't mount cdrom

[bscott]

On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, at 6:23pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I never knew that Linux wouldn't read that format without ripping the
> files with CDParanoia or some such utility. ... After all, KSCD and other
> players will recognize it.

  Actually, no computer can read Red Book audio ("music CDs") without
"ripping" it from the CD, in a process called "Digital Audio Extraction", or
DAE.  The "files"  you see in certain programs and file managers are not
"real" files in the usual sense; they do not exist in any filesystem the OS
is aware of.  Some programs just "pretend" they can see files.  What they
are really doing is sending the special commands needed to extract the audio
tracks from the CD, and then converting it on the fly.

  I'm not sure what distribution and release you are using, so I don't know
what you might already have installed.  Many systems include all the tools
you need for ripping with the distro.  For example, my Red Hat 7.3 install
includes cdparanoia (for DAE), oggenc (for encoding Ogg-format versions of
the extracted audio), and grip (a GUI front-end for everything).  All I have
to do is feed the computer CDs, and grip turns them into .ogg files.

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Re: sortof OT firewalls

[Michael Costolo]

--- Tom Rauschenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've met some who is a windows user with a cable modem.  Can anyone recommend 
> any defensive software she can use ?  Open source is obviously preffered,
> Thanks
> TomR
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Zone Alarm (http://www.zonelabs.com) is a very highly rated free software firewall
for Windows PCs.  The free version works well.

-Mike-

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Re: sortof OT firewalls

[Jason Stephenson]

I use an old PC running OpenBSD 2.7, IPF and IPNAT. It wasn't exactly 
quick to set up the first time, but after that, it works great.

Some hints: You'll want two nics in the machine and a hub doesn't hurt 
either. This is really a better set up for someone who has more than 1 
machine behind the firewall. (I have 4, not counting the firewall 
machine itself.) You'll also want to update your firewall system as soon 
as it is installed. There's a security fix for the version of IPF that 
shipped with OpenBSD 2.7.

The above should work with cable, DSL, or other broadband connection. If 
you get a real modem, it should even work as a dial on demand server, 
but I've never set one of those up.

Tom Rauschenbach wrote:

I've met some who is a windows user with a cable modem.  Can anyone recommend 
any defensive software she can use ?  Open source is obviously preffered,
Thanks
TomR
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