Re: sound card

2004-01-30 Thread Dan Coutu
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 08:15, micheal kasuba wrote:
  The sound card is via ac97, its an onthe mother board sound card. 
 Running  linux 8 as I could not get linux 9 to install that I got from
 this club at the Hosstraderers Swapfest. Can one one help me get the
 sound card working.

Strictly speaking ac97 is not a sound card but rather a standard for
sound cards. Chances are your motherboard's built in sound is using
the chips from a conventional sound card such as Creative makes.

The fact that RH9 would not install is also a puzzle. Can you say more
about the motherboard itself? Who made it? What CPU does it support?

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Dan Coutu
Managing Director
Snowy Owl Internet Consulting, LLC
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Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

2004-01-30 Thread brian
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 17:41, Jon maddog Hall wrote:
 What do you look for in GNHLUG?

A generally good cross-section of linux users, and
linux-related-technology users (perl, Apache, embedded linux, etc)

 What brings you to a meeting?

Interest in meeting other local geeks and learning new things, although
I've only made it to two meetings so.

 What drives you away from a meeting?

Too much work, too many other things going on, general social issues (ie: marriage ;) )

 What would it take to get you to bring new members to a meeting?

I suppose I would have to meet people first that would have even a
remote interest.  In my two years in NH since moving from Detroit I
haven't had much chance to get very involved in much of anything besides
work and house repairs...

 Would you be willing to volunteer for helping to pull off some activity?

Always...

 Would you be willing to spend a Saturday once or twice a year in staffing
 some project?  Could you get your neighbor to do it?

Yes, I would/could on the first part.  No on the second part because
most of my neighbors are yuppies and I don't really speak to most of
them... But I would be willing to host (something) at my house if for
some reason there was a need to do so.

 If so, do you have any activities that you would especially like to do?
 Particularly ones that you would be willing to participate in?

I have a large interest/background in home automation... I wouldn't mind
being in involved in something that highlighted my (or others)
work/progress/discoveries in this area...

 Finally, after thirty-five years in the computer business it took a kid from
 Finland to remind me that I got into this space to have FUNso what things
 would you like to do that would be FUN?

Generally anything that involves beer and learning something new.

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Re: Linux not booting on Gateway E-4000 / Intel 865GLC Motherboard?

2004-01-30 Thread Michael ODonnell


 Has anyone every had an experience w/the above System / Motherboard
 freezing at the BIOS Screen only when there's Linux partitions on the
 Hard Drive?  If there's any other partition or none at all, then the
 system makes it past the BIOS screen with no problem.


I don't think Linux cares how the partitions are
marked, so you could try to mark them as some other
type (maybe mark them as being the same type as the
working Windows partition)

You might placate the BIOS if you configured a tiny
little Windows partition as the first one and then
used the rest of the disk for Linux.  Maybe you could
use that Windows partition as swap.
 
I'm curious: will it boot a Linux floppy or CD?
 
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RE: Linux not booting on Gateway E-4000 / Intel 865GLC Motherboar d?

2004-01-30 Thread Portelance, Brad
Hello Michael,

The boot process does not even make it as far as to even try the floppy or
CD. It simply sits at the boot screen and hangs, no even allowing you to
press F2 for BIOS Setup. If I wipe the partitions clean then it works fine.

I have escalated this to the Gateway Labs - it will be interesting to see
what they come up with. Right now it looks like a BIOS issue.

Thanks!
Brad

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From: Michael ODonnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:28 AM
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 Has anyone every had an experience w/the above System / Motherboard
 freezing at the BIOS Screen only when there's Linux partitions on the
 Hard Drive?  If there's any other partition or none at all, then the
 system makes it past the BIOS screen with no problem.


I don't think Linux cares how the partitions are
marked, so you could try to mark them as some other
type (maybe mark them as being the same type as the
working Windows partition)

You might placate the BIOS if you configured a tiny
little Windows partition as the first one and then
used the rest of the disk for Linux.  Maybe you could
use that Windows partition as swap.
 
I'm curious: will it boot a Linux floppy or CD?
 
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Novell moves HQ to the East (Waltham MA)

2004-01-30 Thread Alan R.








Hi All,

I know this isnt political but Ill post
it anyway.

Apparently this is not as big a deal as I initially
thought but 

Its still nice to see.

Cya,

Alan



Novell moves HQ to the East (Waltham MA)

http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01292004/business/133502.asp



For two decades, Provo has been
synonymous with Novell Inc., the administrative heart and birthplace for what
would become a computer networking software giant. 
No more. As of late Wednesday, the company quietly changed its official
corporate headquarters to the Boston suburb of Waltham, Mass. First, Novell's
Web page made the change; the news came in a brief mention of the transition in
an otherwise routine financial filing with the Securities and Exchange
Commission. 
Company spokesman Bruce Lowry stressed that the official designation of Waltham
as Novell's headquarters merely recognized what has been, in practice, fact
since the company's acquisition of Massachusetts-based Cambridge Technical
Partners in July 2001. 
Most of our executives are there, and our board of directors meets
there, Lowry said. Jack Messman, current Novell chief executive and board
chairman, headed Cambridge prior to its union with Novell. 
And with more recent acquisitions -- including the jewel, last month's $210
million deal for German Linux distributor SuSE -- Lowry added that the
corporate headquarters designation also reflects Novell's growth into a
more global company. 
The company said the headquarters designation would not change the mission nor
importance of its 2,000 Utah County employees, who account for roughly
one-third of Novell's 6,200-strong international work force. 
This doesn't involve any change of personnel or move out of Provo in any
way, or any changes in day-to-day activities, Lowry said. 
Utah definitely is and remains our largest facility, and we are first to
recognize Utah's technology atmosphere and work force have been critical
factors in our development, he said. 

Lowry added it was important for Novell's workers,
business partners and state officials alike to know that, This is not
Novell abandoning Utah, nor [are we] withdrawing from the state.
This just reflects a situation that has existed for some time now. 
The news left local and state officials trying to put the best face possible on
the change, while admitting the loss of the longtime headquarters designation
is a loss of prestige. 
The governor feels Novell is a star corporate citizen of Utah, said
Amanda Covington, press secretary for Gov. Olene Walker. We are obviously
saddened, but at the same time Novell still has business here and Utah still
has a big future in technology. 
  Walker will work even harder, Covington said, to make sure companies
know Utah has a business-friendly climate. 
Provo Mayor Lewis Billings said it may have been inevitable Novell would come
to view Waltham, rather than his city, as its administrative center. I'm
glad, though, that they have reaffirmed their commitment to Provo. 
What's really important to me is that the brain trust, the heart and soul
of Novell, remains right here in Utah, Billings said. 
Ralph Yarrow, a former Novell employee who now is chief executive of the
technology incubator Canopy Group, speculated that despite Novell's assurances,
its Utah County employee base could face changes in coming years. 
Their acquisition [SuSE] in Germany will mean they will be spending a
whole lot of time there, Yarrow said. Practically speaking. . . it
is easier to remove employees in Utah than in Germany, especially since they
are now so focused on the Linux operating system. 
In addition to its new offices in Nuremberg, Germany, Novell also has offices
in 37 countries, including regional centers in Bangalore, India; Bracknell, Britain;
  Sydney, Australia, Tokyo; and San Jose, Calif. 
Novell traded well on the Nasdaq exchange Wednesday, closing at $12.71 per
share, up 35 cents and 3 percent from Tuesday. 










Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas M. Albright
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Jon maddog Hall wrote:

 What do you look for in GNHLUG?
 
Advice and assistance with linux. (Like fixing the sound on my laptop.)

 What brings you to a meeting?
 
Either a good topic or a good speaker. (Like fixing the sound on my 
laptop.)

 What drives you away from a meeting?
 
The location and/or time of the meeting can be a detriment. That's why 
you'll never see me at Martha's. If the big (quarterly?) meetings were 
held  on a weekend, during the day rather than at night on a weekday I 
might actually show up.

 What would it take to get you to bring new members to a meeting?
 
Nothing really. Usually I point them at the list.

 Would you be willing to volunteer for helping to pull off some activity?
 
Depends ... who would be interested in setting up wireless and remote
access to a farm and it's outbuildings (barns/sheds/etc.)?

 Would you be willing to spend a Saturday once or twice a year in staffing
 some project?  Could you get your neighbor to do it?
 
See above, and you can ask Bruce Dawson as well.

 If so, do you have any activities that you would especially like to do?
 Particularly ones that you would be willing to participate in?
 
Again, see above.

 Finally, after thirty-five years in the computer business it took a kid from
 Finland to remind me that I got into this space to have FUNso what things
 would you like to do that would be FUN?
 
Also finally, see above. :) The wireless remote monitoring of the 
animals and the shelters isn't necessary, it'd just be neat.

-- 
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 We understand death for the first time when he puts his hand upon one
 whom we love. -Madame De Stael, writer (1766-1817)
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Linux not booting on Gateway E-4000 / Intel 865GLC Motherboard?

2004-01-30 Thread Portelance, Brad
Hello!

I'm in a real bind with a Linux booting issue and would very much appreciate
any suggestions from the community.

Has anyone every had an experience w/the above System / Motherboard freezing
at the BIOS Screen only when there's Linux partitions on the Hard Drive? If
there's any other partition or none at all, then the system makes it past
the BIOS screen with no problem.

I can load Linux (Mandrake 9.2) on this Desktop PC or just write the
partitions and have it freeze at the BIOS Screen (Won't even let you enter
BIOS setup), not even trying to boot (Never makes it to LILO). 

If I take the HD (After loading Linux completely on this machine) and put it
in another Gateway model (A GW E-3600 - it boots that Linux just fine. So
the E-4000/Intel 865GLC Motherboard write the partitions, load Linux, but
just not recognize the partitions at boot time. This points strongly to a
BIOS issue, but I want to be sure.

We have tried flashing the BIOS, swapping memory and 3 different Hard drives
with no luck.

I have talked several times to Gateway Tech Support and they will not
Support Linux on the desktop and refer me to the pay-per-call server group
who supports only server hardware.

Google and news group searches didn't find much.

If any one has any ideas at all, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks! 
Brad
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Re: Linux not booting on Gateway E-4000 / Intel 865GLC Motherboar d?

2004-01-30 Thread Michael ODonnell



 The boot process does not even make it as far as to even try
 the floppy or CD.  It simply sits at the boot screen and hangs,
 no even allowing you to press F2 for BIOS Setup.  If I wipe the
 partitions clean then it works fine.

Maybe I should have been clearer - I meant that you
should restore the system to its Windows-bootable
state and then see if it would boot a Linux floppy
or CD.  I did already understand from your description
that the BIOS is wedging up very early in the boot
process as long as there is only a Linux partition
on the disk.

The other thing I was suggesting was to reload
Windows and then install Linux in those existing
Windows partitions without creating any new ones.
Then, last thing before rebooting out of the Linux
installation process, you'd run (say) LILO and be
sure that the partitions are still marked as being
Windows partitions instead of Linux partitions,
changing the ID bytes back, if necessary.
 
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Re: Linux not booting on Gateway E-4000 / Intel 865GLC Motherboar d?

2004-01-30 Thread Hewitt Tech
One other thing you might look at - does this BIOS have a virus check? If
so, turning off the virus check might allow it to make it into the Linux
bootstrap.

-Alex

P.S. Just a swag ;^)

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From: Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:32 PM
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d?





 The boot process does not even make it as far as to even try
 the floppy or CD.  It simply sits at the boot screen and hangs,
 no even allowing you to press F2 for BIOS Setup.  If I wipe the
 partitions clean then it works fine.

Maybe I should have been clearer - I meant that you
should restore the system to its Windows-bootable
state and then see if it would boot a Linux floppy
or CD.  I did already understand from your description
that the BIOS is wedging up very early in the boot
process as long as there is only a Linux partition
on the disk.

The other thing I was suggesting was to reload
Windows and then install Linux in those existing
Windows partitions without creating any new ones.
Then, last thing before rebooting out of the Linux
installation process, you'd run (say) LILO and be
sure that the partitions are still marked as being
Windows partitions instead of Linux partitions,
changing the ID bytes back, if necessary.

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Laptop Speakewr Problem

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas M. Albright
I'm not sure why, but I no longer havce sound on my laptop in Linux. I 
used to have sound. I still have sound when I boot into XP.

The only lines relevent in /var/log/messages (that I find) are:
kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:05.0
kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:02.0
kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
kernel: Crystal 4280/46xx + AC97 Audio, version 1.28.32, 11:55:45 Aug 18 2003
kernel: cs46xx: Card found at 0xf410 and 0xf400, IRQ 11
kernel: cs46xx: Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20 (1014:0153) at 0xf410/0xf400, IRQ 11
kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: CRY20 (Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev B)
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3

Other lines referncing sound are:
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0

I can't think of any updates I may've done that would've messed with my
sound. Any ideas?

Addition information:
# cat /etc/redhat-release 
Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike)
# uname -a
Linux littlefear 2.4.20-20.9 #1 Mon Aug 18 11:45:58 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
# modprobe -r cs46xx
cs46xx: Device or resource busy
# modprobe -d cs46xx
=
Module ac97_codec
kname ac97_codec
objkey ac97_codec
names: ac97_codec
mode: NORMAL
Module matching ac97_codec:
/lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o
=
=
Module soundcore
kname soundcore
objkey soundcore
names: soundcore
mode: NORMAL
Module matching soundcore:
/lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
=
=
Module cs46xx
kname cs46xx
objkey cs46xx
names: cs46xx
mode: NORMAL
Module matching cs46xx:
/lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/cs46xx.o
=

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Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

2004-01-30 Thread Paul Lussier

In a message dated: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:41:00 EST
Jon maddog Hall said:

What do you look for in GNHLUG?

Community:good people to share time, experiences, beer with.
Activity: regularly scheduled meetings with good topics/speakers
Education/Knowledge:  people to learn new things from

What brings you to a meeting?

The above, when I have time.  The past few months have been especially
difficult now that I waste 3hrs/day commuting and I have a daughter
whom I get to see a grand total of 45 minutes/day.  Getting to meetings
is all but impossible, and seldom something I'm willing to sacrifice
seeing my daughter for.


What drives you away from a meeting?

Total lack of free time.

What would it take to get you to bring new members to a meeting?

More free time.

Would you be willing to volunteer for helping to pull off some activity?

I have done so plenty in the past: NUN, HOSS Traders, LBS, countless
meetings (local chapter and quarterlies), etc.  But that was when I had
time.  Personally, I'd love nothing more than to continue in this,
but I have no time.

Would you be willing to spend a Saturday once or twice a year in staffing
some project?  Could you get your neighbor to do it?

If I had a Saturday, or a neighbor, sure.  Unfortunately I have neither.

If so, do you have any activities that you would especially like to do?
Particularly ones that you would be willing to participate in?

I remember a long while ago Ben Scott suggesting that we have meetings
dedicated to 'figuring something out'.  This always sounded like a lot
of fun.  Personally I think it's something that would be better
for a Saturday rather than 2 hours on a weeknight.  That way we could
have more time.

Things I'd love to learn:

 - Configuring Apache for an enterprise
   Things like centralized authentication on a per directory level
   Address Rewriting (when, why, how)
   etc.
 - Kerberos
 - AFS (depends upon Kerberos)
 - GFS
 - Hacking together various 'Home automation' things:
- MythTV
- Voicemail/caller ID thingie which could send me e-mail/log who
  called, etc.
- UPnp/X10 hackery
 
Things I wouldn't mind teaching:

 - NFS environments
 - NIS/LDAP
 - Backups using AMANDA
 - WebDAV
 - Subversion
 - Samba

Both lists could probably be a whole lot longer but you get the idea.
The big problem for me is time.  A Saturday with 4-6 hours to hack at some
of this stuff might be far more do-able for me than a weeknight given
my current situation, but even weekends are incredibly precious right now.

And, though we may have had some talks on some of these things before,
that isn't what I'm talking about here.  I'm talking rolling up our
sleeves and actually hacking on this stuff.  A bunch of people bring
machines, laptops, network equipment, etc. and we actually set up live
networks and make this stuff work.  Kind of like a Computer Science
Lab you might have to attend in a college course or something.
Complete with mock-up Professor for each session who has at least an
outline of what we're going to try to accomplish, steps to follow,
etc.

Finally, after thirty-five years in the computer business it took a kid from
Finland to remind me that I got into this space to have FUNso what things
would you like to do that would be FUN?

See above.  It's the tinkering and debugging that I think hooks most
of us, so it would be fun to actually do some tinkering and debugging
rather than just talking about it.  This list has always been rather
heavy in the sysadmin area, so there are plenty of us who do this stuff
everyday all day specifically because it's fun *and* they pay us for it.
Unfortunately, when it's your job, you seldom get the chance to tinker
on stuff your interested in just because it looks neat.

Most of us have a home network, which is the perfect 'playground' to turn
into a mini enterprise.  So why not learn how to do it right?

I know there's been a lot of talk about advocacy here in the past year
or so.  But it seems like there's not a lot action.  I think part of
the problem is that many are outside their comfort zone here.  The
talk has always been of 'going to them' to advocate.  I think if we
were to hold these workshop type sessions, we'd be able to not only
attract more of our own members, but also advertise them externally
and get people to just show up who would otherwise not.

Of course, all this could be a total phantasy on my part.  And, since
I have no time of late to really contribute to putting all this together,
I really shouldn't be making suggestions.

Oh well.  That's my .02 sheckles on the subject.

Paul Lussier

 Presently-way-to-busy-to-be-Co-Chairman-in-anything-but-name
  Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG)
http://www.gnhlug.org
   Events: http://www.gnhlug.org/lug_cal/month.php

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