Re: Back up and .... Re: HDTV tuner cards
Our backup needs are fairly well understood (ie. we have one or more answers for the questions listed below etc.). What I'm looking for are possible real world linux backup solutions that folks on this list may have actually implemented based on thier own specific needs; which may be somewhatdifferent from mine, but, that's OK. I can interpolate. -- __ | 0|___||. Andrew Gaunt - Computing Development Environment _| _| : : } Lucent Intranet: http://mvcde.inse.lucent.com/~quantum -(O)-==-o\ Internet: http://www.gaunt.org Dan Coutu wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:50, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: We are looking for a potential solution to backup ~3T of data on some linux boxes. 1T/box. Anyone have any recent experience/wisdom for such? There are a number of possible backup solutions available for Linux. Whether or not they are a good solution for your particular case is dependent on a few things (that you should nail down anyway): 1 How much time can the backup take? Less time is more money. Backing up that much data can take days with a wimpy solution. 2 How often do backups need to be done? Every day? Week? 3 What would you like to backup onto? Different media have different costs and size limits. 4 Do you need to be able to do a 'bare metal' disaster recovery of the entire system? Or do you only need to recover files? 5 Is there anyone in the current organization that has the skill set necessary to setup and operate the backup system? (This may seem a silly question, it's amazing how often the answer is no.) 6 Are you backing up a database? Many databases require a special backup procedure in order to insure that what you backup is not corrupt due to active transactions happening in the middle of the backup. 7 Does the backup have to happen on a live system or can the system being backed up be taken completely offline? 8 How much can you spend? Solving this well is probably going to cost some serious bucks just in hardware alone. Hope this helps. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Sun Solaris 10 runs Linux
Hi
I
got an email from a friend who says Sun's new Solaris 10 runs LINUX and is
trying to tell me that Solaris is the way to go because he feels it has the best
of both worlds, (We argue about this alot in fun of course) I thought I would
send along the link he sent me, we all know Sun wants to stop Linux because it
is taking away the market share from Solaris so I guess this is their way of
fighting back.
http://www.sun.com/2004-0803/feature/
Richard A Sharpe
(DBA) Sqlserver/DB2(Linux)
Amherst Technologies
40 Continental Blvd
Merrimack, NH 03054
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431-8031
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"Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have
faith")
Re: HDTV Cards
I'm interested in both an HDTV card, as well as one that works off of USB to go with my laptop, since I'll be travelling so much now. jeff ps: the Zaurus is working great, OpenZaurus 3.3.6-pre1 (upgraded to gcc3). For anyone interested, the small keyboard makes working with it easier (assuming you can type on it, I can). The opie-handwriting works great, although I'm learning to write now! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: HDTV Cards
Jeff Smith wrote: I'm interested in both an HDTV card, as well as one that works off of USB to go with my laptop, since I'll be travelling so much now. What about this one?? http://www.usbhdtv.com/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Fwd: philosophical question about gmail
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 11:25:51AM -0400, Dan Jenkins wrote: Personally, I have no problem with GMail. I also have no interest in GMail. I run my own domain and my own email servers (and my own webmail servers). So any discussion of GMail is purely academic for me. It's not really that simple though; I think that this thread is highlighting an oft overlooked point: if you send e-mail to someone, the e-mail is only as private as the server it sits on. If a user uses GMail, and gmail decides to publish all the e-mail on their servers, then suddenly your private e-mail isn't so private. This is, of course, true of any e-mail. This is one of the main reasons some people (like me) advocate encrypting all e-mail, and always encrypt mail whenever possible (i.e. whenever the recipient is PGP-capable). FWIW, it's not that most of the mail I send is so private or sensitive that it NEEDS encryption -- it just isn't. It's the principle that no one should EVER be reading my e-mail but me and my intended recipients, regardless of the contents. Some people will no doubt feel that this principle is, practically speaking, not worth defending. Given how few people are sufficiently sophisticated and/or concerned to use PGP for all their e-mail, those people are probably right. But I'll stick to my guns as much as possible despite. :-P -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank the spammers. pgpiOLcZd51hv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fwd: philosophical question about gmail
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 18:22, Bill Sconce wrote: On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:22:56 -0400 Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all, the email was private and I never agreed to Gmail's policies. I never really wanted anybody to actually profit (technically speaking) from the email; I just wanted to make a private comment. Neither Dodge nor Google compensated me for my opinion either. Ah. An issue begins to take form in the fog. Any ISP whatsoever uses computers to transport your e-mail. If that ISP should elect to scan what you write and sell the resulting information, they're essentially free to do so. Except that ISPs are governed by the Common Carrier laws - the same laws that protect them from liable lawsuits. There is *some* privacy guarantee there, but not much. And most of what is there has been significantly diluted by the anti-terrorism acts (at least with regards to the government). The best protections are competition and isolation. Competition when some ISPs have better policies than others (and their market cares about privacy - right now it cares more about price). Isolation when you keep everything to yourself or use encryption for everything. Don't forget the bottom line: If you want to get a copy of someone's data stream, phone calls, or correspondence, all you have to do is climb a utility pole or collect their trash. Privacy through competition is transient and dependent upon market moods. Privacy through isolation requires self-diligence - of the same sort that protects democracy. --Bruce signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Lost my partition table - can I recover?
My situation: I have an HP server with two hot-swap SCSI drive bays. It's got a RAID controller in it, which has to initialize new drives before they can be recognized by the controller. It refers to them as logical drives. I have inadvertently deleted the logical drive on the original disk, and I can not boot to Linux anymore. I am certain that all that's happened is the RAID controller re-wrote a new partition table with no partitions. When I boot from a RHEL 3.0 CD in rescue mode, it sees the drive detected as /dev/cciss/c0d0, whereas before it was /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Can I recover from this without having to do a reinstall? This is, ahem, a time-critical problem. :( :( :( Scott -- Scott Garman sgarman at iname dot com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Lost my partition table - can I recover?
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 09:38, Scott Garman wrote: My situation: I have an HP server with two hot-swap SCSI drive bays. It's got a RAID controller in it, which has to initialize new drives before they can be recognized by the controller. It refers to them as logical drives. I have inadvertently deleted the logical drive on the original disk, and I can not boot to Linux anymore. I am certain that all that's happened is the RAID controller re-wrote a new partition table with no partitions. When I boot from a RHEL 3.0 CD in rescue mode, it sees the drive detected as /dev/cciss/c0d0, whereas before it was /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. The /dev/cciss/c0d0 refers to the entire first disk (think /dev/sda), while /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 (think /dev/sda1) refers to the first partition on the first disk. Um, did you just trash your entire disk? -marc -- Marc Nozell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.nozell.com/blog/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: philosophical question about gmail
On Aug 5, 2004, at 09:17, Jeff Kinz wrote: Anybody know what ISP's real status is vis-a-vis being/not being a Common Carrier? Most of the articles I've read say the cable plant does not fall under common carrier provisions but data lines provisioned through telcos do. So they can do port blocking, prioritize their conglomerate's traffic, turn off service without notice (Remember @Home?), etc. Where it could get interesting is that common carriers receive special protections when it comes to questionable content. They get to claim that they're not the publisher of given content, they're just a common carrier. I suspect if the parent companies of the cable providers weren't themselves RIAA members this issue would have been pressed already. The cable companies want to have it both ways. For the right amount of money appropriate legislation can probably make it so. -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Sun Solaris 10 runs Linux
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 07:27, Sharpe, Richard wrote: I got an email from a friend who says Sun's new Solaris 10 runs LINUX and is trying to tell me that Solaris is the way to go because he feels it has the best of both worlds, (We argue about this alot in fun of course) I thought I would send along the link he sent me, we all know Sun wants to stop Linux because it is taking away the market share from Solaris so I guess this is their way of fighting back. Sounds like the ole embrace and extend strategy to me. ;-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Lost my partition table - can I recover?
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 10:02, Marc Nozell wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 09:38, Scott Garman wrote: My situation: I have an HP server with two hot-swap SCSI drive bays. It's got a RAID controller in it, which has to initialize new drives before they can be recognized by the controller. It refers to them as logical drives. I have inadvertently deleted the logical drive on the original disk, and I can not boot to Linux anymore. I am certain that all that's happened is the RAID controller re-wrote a new partition table with no partitions. When I boot from a RHEL 3.0 CD in rescue mode, it sees the drive detected as /dev/cciss/c0d0, whereas before it was /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. The /dev/cciss/c0d0 refers to the entire first disk (think /dev/sda), while /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 (think /dev/sda1) refers to the first partition on the first disk. Um, did you just trash your entire disk? I'm not sure - the RAID controller says that data loss will occur if you delete a logical drive. I mistakenly deleted the logical drive of this disk. It takes no time at all for this to take effect, so I assumed that it just deleted the partition table. I tried using fdisk to create one large partition on the disk, hoping that mount would look at the beginning of the partition to find the filesystem, but I was unable to mount anything. Unfortunately, the point is moot now. I've decided to restore from last night's backup. Scott -- Scott Garman sgarman at iname dot com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: HDTV Cards
Add me to the list of those interested in obtaining an HDTV card. It would seem advisable for such a group purchase to seek the highest quality hardware available (which might oblige us to purchase them close to the legislated deadline to make sure we got the latest technology, which in turn might rule out the lower priced implementations) as that would seem to me the best way to forestall obsolescence. Also, at least for me, the existence of good Linux driver support would be a definite plus. Access to full technical specs is a non-negotiable requirement. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Fwd: philosophical question about gmail
I suspect that at least one of us has missed a point; I was only worried that if (say) you were a gmail user and the gmail folks felt free to append an ad to end of all your outbound emails then anything you posted to the GNHLUG list would contain an ad, thereby shoving that ad into all our faces even though the rest of us were NOT gmail users and had not consented to view those ads. The gmail folks would benefit because their ads would be in front of a whole set of eyeballs (I've heard that's how the ad geeks think of us) without us getting anything in return. If gmail does NOT append ads to outbound msgs sent by gmail users (ie. gmail does NOT inflict its ads on anybody that a gmail user happens to correspond with) then I (think I) would have no complaints. I've pretty much always assumed that my msgs are subject to random scanning anywhere along their travels. GMail does NOT append ads to outgoing email. Nor does it add ads to incoming email. It does display ads adjacent to email in a separate column. Just like Google. Ads are segregated from the search results (or, in GMail's case the email). Ads are based on keywords found in the email itself. Just like Google search results in which ads are based on the terms in the search. Some folk are concerned about the keywords in the email being associated with the user. Google has addressed those concerns, though not to everyone's satisfaction. (It ANYTHING ever to everyone's satisfaction.) Personally, I have no problem with GMail. I also have no interest in GMail. I run my own domain and my own email servers (and my own webmail servers). So any discussion of GMail is purely academic for me. -- Dan Jenkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rastech Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Sun Solaris 10 runs Linux
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:42:48AM -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 07:27, Sharpe, Richard wrote: I got an email from a friend who says Sun's new Solaris 10 runs LINUX and is trying to tell me that Solaris is the way to go because he feels it has the best of both worlds, (We argue about this alot in fun of course) I thought I would send along the link he sent me, we all know Sun wants to stop Linux because it is taking away the market share from Solaris so I guess this is their way of fighting back. Sounds like the ole embrace and extend strategy to me. ;-) From the same folks who brought you Unix Wars . (Cue Star Wars theme... ) **GRABCOIN Pictures presents LINUX WARS Long ago in a country far, far away a young programmer labored long and hard to create a new kernel, a kernel that would serve the people, not oppress.. See the exciting conflicts as proprietary extensions create havoc and chaos in the vulnerable open source colonies. Watch as the infections spread into tender, ignorant IT organizations. Gasp as Microsoft sponsors a white paper documenting each and every occurence of the above and concludes that Open Source just means Open Sores. ** Greedy Market Analysts/Bean Counters Organization In Naughtiness -- Linux and Open Source. The New Base. Now All your base belongs to you, for free. Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Fwd: philosophical question about gmail
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 09:17, Jeff Kinz wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:18:38PM -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 18:22, Bill Sconce wrote: If that ISP should elect to scan what you write and sell the resulting information, they're essentially free to do so. Except that ISPs are governed by the Common Carrier laws - the same laws that protect them from liable lawsuits. There is *some* privacy guarantee there, but not much. And most of what is there has been significantly diluted by the anti-terrorism acts (at least with regards to the government). ISP's are Common Carrier's? Interesting. During discussions about ISPs refusing to accept SMTP connections from Dynamic IP addresses it was argued that ISPs are not Common Carriers and therefore can practice that particular form of censure to protect their customer's email streams, whereas a Common Carrier. like a telephone company is required to put all connections through, even ones originating from known 900-number switching fraud sources. Perhaps my wording was too strong. I think I should have said that attempts have been made to hold ISPs accountable to common carrier laws. Some have succeeded, some have not. Also, keep in mind that the common carrier laws I referred to are not just the telecom laws, but also the laws governing newspapers, radio, TV and other media. The only court decision I can remember at the moment involved a liable suit, and the rationale for the decision was something to the effect of if the ISP moderates or is otherwise substantially aware of the content, then it is at least partially accountable. (Quotes are mine.) Anybody know what ISP's real status is vis-a-vis being/not being a Common Carrier? I believe that few landmark decisions have been made either legislatively or through the court system. It appears the courts and legislatures are taking the approach of letting things sort themselves out. But, if anyone has additional knowledge regarding this, I would appreciate knowing. Probably off-list, since this is only peripherally concerned with Linux. --Bruce signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fwd: philosophical question about gmail
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:18:38PM -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 18:22, Bill Sconce wrote: If that ISP should elect to scan what you write and sell the resulting information, they're essentially free to do so. Except that ISPs are governed by the Common Carrier laws - the same laws that protect them from liable lawsuits. There is *some* privacy guarantee there, but not much. And most of what is there has been significantly diluted by the anti-terrorism acts (at least with regards to the government). ISP's are Common Carrier's? Interesting. During discussions about ISPs refusing to accept SMTP connections from Dynamic IP addresses it was argued that ISPs are not Common Carriers and therefore can practice that particular form of censure to protect their customer's email streams, whereas a Common Carrier. like a telephone company is required to put all connections through, even ones originating from known 900-number switching fraud sources. Anybody know what ISP's real status is vis-a-vis being/not being a Common Carrier? -- Linux and Open Source. The New Base. Now All your base belongs to you, for free. Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[DLSLUG-Announce] Reminder: Meeting Tonight @ 7
The August meeting of DLSLUG is tonight at 7PM. meeting announcement: http://dlslug.org/pipermail/dlslug-announce/2004-July/02.html website: http://dlslug.org -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ DLSLUG-Announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dlslug.org/mailman/listinfo/dlslug-announce ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: philosophical question about gmail
On Aug 5, 2004, at 11:57, Derek Martin wrote: It's the principle that no one should EVER be reading my e-mail but me and my intended recipients, regardless of the contents. Some people will no doubt feel that this principle is, practically speaking, not worth defending. practically speaking gets to the root of the issue. I suspect four out of five people on the street would agree with your sentiment and three out of four would be willing to click a 'keep my mail private' checkbox. One out of ten thousand is willing to learn GPG and get his keys signed, install mailer plugins, etc. Not to mention that you and I are both e-mail encrypters but I'm using S/MIME and you're using PGP. The technology is here, I assert the users' willingness is here, but usable implementations are not available. AOL, e.g., could issue certs to their users and transparently build S/MIME into their service, but obviously they don't want to. Ditto for gmail and all the rest. -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: philosophical question about gmail
Thanks for asking Bill I don't know either. Richard A Sharpe (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2 Amherst Technologies 40 Continental Blvd Merrimack, NH 03054 PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031 Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785 FAX ...(603) 578-1072 EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tenemos que tener fe (We must have faith) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sconce Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: philosophical question about gmail This is going to hurt. I'm going to have to admit ignorance, not just of the usual sort, but in this case near-total ignorance. What is gmail? On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:41:07 -0400 Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the members of this list have not signed Gmail's user agreement (let's call this Group A). Others have (let's these people Group B). Wait a minute. The ignorance is not total. I know one thing. I know that I'm in Group A. I haven't signed ANYONE's user agreement recently. (Actually, I haven't signed anyone's user agreement for at least several years now, not since I converted to Linux.) It takes some amount of effort to belong to this group. Why should the efforts of Group A be available to Gmail (in the form of raw data, marketing data, and potential advertising revenues) simply because Group B decided to sign Gmail's user agreement? That sounds like a good question. Just wondering. I haven't made up my mind yet about Gmail. OK. I'm wondering too. (I did a search of gnhlug, found gmail in the subject of only two messages, this one from Kevin and the one where Jeff says he's run out of friends. Some of us probably don't know what a gmail invitation is either.) -Bill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Open Source Editor
Hello: I wanted to announce that Addison Wesley has a new acquisitions editor for the open source community. In this position I will be responsible for creating new books that may be of interest to your users. To that end, I encourage anyone to e-mail me with suggestions, advice, topics that you think might make a great book, things that you love about certain books, things that you hate about others, and general industry news. After all, I'm just a technology editor...you are the adopters. I look forward to hearing from you. Best, Catherine _ Acquisitions Editor Open Source Product Space Addison Wesley Pearson Technology Group Boston, MA This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
HP to sell Linux notebook
Saw in the Nashua Telegraph (Business, 5 Aug edition) - HP is going to sell a linux-based laptop. Even better, the cost will be $60 LESS then the cost of a comparable Windows laptop. jeff ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
