Boston Linux and Unix Installfest XX, Saturday March 4, 2006 9AM - 5PM

2006-02-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
When: Saturday, March 4, 2006 9:00 am to 5:00PM
Location:  MIT Building E51 Room 061-063
Please note that there is ample parking in front of the building. 
The rooms are located on the basement floor opposite the elevator. 


A periodic get-together where volunteers from our group help people
with Linux installation and other hands-on issues.  We have reserved an
additional room to use for some short seminars.

We have limited space, so first come first served.

Bring your complete system including Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse,
power strips, power cords, etc. Please bring the Linux distribution you
wish to load onto your system. We generally have a few copies available
for use. We'll help you load all needed software onto your hard drive. 

Cost
It's free! However, we DO have expenses, and contributions are
welcome. Please consider contributing $25 per machine. 


For directions, parking, and more detailed instructions please check
out the BLU website: http://www.blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2006-ifest20
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Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier

Hi all,

Is there a way to tell the resolver libs that if you can't connect to
the DNS service, to just abort and return? Setting /etc/nsswitch.conf to 

  hosts: dns [unavail=continue|return] files

still seems to result in a slight hang while the lookup occurs... 

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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Neil Schelly
On Thursday 23 February 2006 12:41 pm, Paul Lussier wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there a way to tell the resolver libs that if you can't connect to
 the DNS service, to just abort and return? Setting /etc/nsswitch.conf to

   hosts: dns [unavail=continue|return] files

 still seems to result in a slight hang while the lookup occurs...

That slight hang would be the timeout of the DNS request.  I'm guessing it's 
about 2 seconds.  If you want more immediate response, I would suggest 
running a local instance of BIND as a caching server.  It can even just 
forward all requests to your primary DNS servers if you'd like.

The benefit of doing this is that you can set more aggressive timeouts on your 
local instance without affecting other users of the real DNS server.  Then, 
your resolv.conf can point to localhost and your nsswitch will fail back to 
files more quickly.

Would that work?
-N
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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Buskey
hosts: files [NOTFOUND=continue] dns [NOTFOUND=return]On 2/23/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Hi all,Is there a way to tell the resolver libs that if you can't connect to
the DNS service, to just abort and return? Setting /etc/nsswitch.conf tohosts: dns [unavail=continue|return] filesstill seems to result in a slight hang while the lookup occurs...--Seeya,
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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hosts:  files [NOTFOUND=continue] dns [NOTFOUND=return]

Nope, still hangs:  

   # time host foo
   Nameserver not responding
   eg.foo.com A record not found, try again

   real0m14.996s
   user0m0.000s
   sys 0m0.000s

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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
Neil Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That slight hang would be the timeout of the DNS request.

Yeah, I know what it is, I need a work around for it :)

 I'm guessing it's about 2 seconds.

More like 15:

  # time host foo
  Nameserver not responding
  foo.foo.com A record not found, try again

  real0m14.996s
  user0m0.000s
  sys 0m0.000s


  If you want more immediate response, I would suggest running a
 local instance of BIND as a caching server.  It can even just
 forward all requests to your primary DNS servers if you'd like.
snip
 Would that work?

Probably not.  This is for an embedded system, for which the desire is
a little complexity as possible.  Configuring a caching name server
would a significant layer of complexity for which our support people
are not qualified to deal with.  Additionally, the configuration of
the caching server would be a royal pain to build into our
installation process.

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Re: list of commands utilities

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) writes:

 Might I suggest instead that you read the associated documentation for
 these things?:

   bash, tr, sed, awk, test, perl, cut, sort, uniq, mv, cp, find,
   grep, ssh, scp, tar, gzip, bzip2, fortune


 I'm sure that I missed quite a few things here, but this prunes the
 list down by quite a bit.  Still, if you want to be familiar with
 command line tools, these are a good place to start.  You can't go
 wrong by fully grokking what these things do.

Additionally, each of the man pages for these commands should have See
Also: section, which will, in turn, lead to more commands.
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forensic evidence collection tools?

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier

Hi all,

I'm trying to debug a problem on a set of systems.  Is there something
I run, say from a usb key or a Knoppix CD which will collect all
interesting information and deposit it somewhere else? 
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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dawson


Paul Lussier wrote:
 Neil Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
That slight hang would be the timeout of the DNS request.
 
 
 Yeah, I know what it is, I need a work around for it :)
 
 
I'm guessing it's about 2 seconds.
 
 
 More like 15:
 
   # time host foo
   Nameserver not responding
   foo.foo.com A record not found, try again
 
   real0m14.996s
   user0m0.000s
   sys 0m0.000s
 
 
 
 If you want more immediate response, I would suggest running a
local instance of BIND as a caching server.  It can even just
forward all requests to your primary DNS servers if you'd like.
 
 snip
 
Would that work?
 
 
 Probably not.  This is for an embedded system, for which the desire is
 a little complexity as possible.  Configuring a caching name server
 would a significant layer of complexity for which our support people
 are not qualified to deal with.  Additionally, the configuration of
 the caching server would be a royal pain to build into our
 installation process.

Try swapping the order of hosts and dns in /etc/nsswitch.

Also, have you tried options timeout:1 in /etc/resolv.conf? (This will
give you a 1 second timeout).

--Bruce
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RE: forensic evidence collection tools?

2006-02-23 Thread Bair, Andy
Title: RE: forensic evidence collection tools?






Paul,

I work on and contribute to the ftimes project
which does very well to collect all file system
information. It can also search for a unique
pattern (pcre) across a file system, which I've
used to identify trojan files. It can be found
here:

 http://ftimes.sourceforge.net/FTimes/index.shtml

If you're trying to do incident response, I would
recommend webjob. I presented it at the ghnlug
last week ... not sure if you were there, but
webjob was designed to perform incident response
on a large number of systems. I've used it quite
effectively to harvest information from a bunch of
windows machines. WebJob has many advantages
including aggregating the data at a central
server. It can be found here:

 http://webjob.sourceforge.net/WebJob/index.shtml

If you're looking for a quick list of forensic
tools, this is a good spot:

 http://www.opensourceforensics.org/

>From time-to-time I guest teach an undergrad
commputer forensics course, I'd be glad to talk
more about forensics if you would like.

Andy


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Subject: forensic evidence collection tools?


Hi all,

I'm trying to debug a problem on a set of systems. Is there something
I run, say from a usb key or a Knoppix CD which will collect all
interesting information and deposit it somewhere else?
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Re: Bypassing DNS?

2006-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
On 2/23/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to tell the resolver libs that if you can't connect to
 the DNS service, to just abort and return? Setting /etc/nsswitch.conf to

   hosts: dns [unavail=continue|return] files

 still seems to result in a slight hang while the lookup occurs...

  The real issue here is: How does the stub resolver library know it
can't connect to the DNS service?

  If the full-service resolver (the nameserver configured in
/etc/resolv.conf) is unresponsive for some reason, the resolver has no
way of knowing that.  Remember, UDP is stateless, so all the stub can
do is send a query and wait for a reply.  If the query packet goes
into a black hole, the stub will never know that.

  You can set a timeout in the resolver that says, in effect, If you
don't hear back within X seconds, give up.  Bruce posted the config
option for that, but that small timeout may cause false timeout errors
when things really are working.  DNS can take a couple seconds even
when everything is working right, and unusual conditions can make
things worse.

On 2/23/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you want more immediate response, I would suggest running a
 local instance of BIND as a caching server.

 Probably not.  This is for an embedded system, for which the desire is
 a little complexity as possible.  Configuring a caching name server
 would a significant layer of complexity for which our support people
 are not qualified to deal with.

  You really think so?  A caching-only nameserver requires no
configuration with BIND, about all you have to do is install it.  You
might want to pre-configure a restriction that it only listens to the
localhost, but that config file would be the same everywhere.  Even if
you wanted to configure forwarders, you could do that with a simple
included file.  What's the big deal?

  If you're worried about footprint, DJB's tinydns caching-only
resolver is, well, pretty tiny.

-- Ben
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Re: list of commands utilities

2006-02-23 Thread Dan Jenkins

Paul Lussier wrote:


Additionally, each of the man pages for these commands should have See
Also: section, which will, in turn, lead to more commands.
 

And those commands will lead to more commands... and so on until, after 
only a few decades, you'll have learned most of the Unix commands 
available. ;-)


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DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - March 2nd

2006-02-23 Thread Bill McGonigle

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The next regular monthly meeting of the DLSLUG will be held:
 Thursday, March 2nd, 7-9PM
at: Dartmouth College, Carson Hall Room L01
All are welcome, free of charge.

Agenda

7:00  Sign-in, networking

7:15  Introductory remarks

7:20  Xaraya

  Xaraya is an extensible, Open Source web application
  framework written in PHP and licensed under the GNU
  General Public License. Xaraya delivers the requisite
  infrastructure and tools to create custom web applications
  that include fully dynamic multi-platform Content Mangement
  Solutions (CMS). Xaraya's modular, database independent
  architecture introduces tools that separate form, function,
  content, and design with on-the-fly extensions allowing
  greater control and versatility.

  Jonathan will present an overview of Xaraya, its architecture,
  core modules, and extension modules, including a brief
  demonstration how to get started developing web sites using
  the Xaraya platform. Examples will be used from current live
  web sites.

  Jonathan is principal of Parkerhill Technology Group, a
  strategic management and web development firm, and has over
  25 years of entrepreneurial and technical experience ranging
  from small start-ups to multinational corporations. He holds a
  Masters degree in Media Technology from MIT, and serves on
  several boards including the Software Assocation of NH (SwANH),
  Amoskaeg Business Incubator in Manchester NH, MIT Enterprise
  Forum of NH, and North Country Council CEDS (economic
  development strategy). Jonathan lives in northern Grafton
  County on a retired dairy farm with his wife and 4 young
  children.

8:30  Roundtable Exchange - where the attendees can make
  announcements or ask a linux question.

Please see the website for links to directions.

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