Re: [NLC] Drip Dry Phone
Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is why Steve O recommends rinsing in DISTILLED water Must it be distilled? Would RO-filtered water be effective? -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been on the list for a few years now and wouldn't dream of heckling Ben or anyone else here; way in awe of you guys. A, shucks :) I've been running Linux since RH 6.1 but what I know can fit on the business end of a pencil compared to you all. Well, not to spill a secret or anything, but everyone else on this list started at the same point :) There are days when I feel like an idiot[1] compared to those I work with[2]. Knowledge, like poverty, can often be a matter of perspective. In otherwords, you can make a million dollars a year, but if you overspend, you're still broke, and still feel like you don't make enough. It's the same with knowledge. The more you know, the more you realize you have to learn :) Most of us accumulated our knowledge following a simple 7 step program (you can try this at home kids:) 1. We read. 2. We read a lot. 3. We read multiple mediums and multiple sources. 4. We attempt to apply what we read to reality. 5. We read some more. 6. We correct for our mistakes 7. Goto 1. After several iterations of that, we usually break down and ask someone for help, whether it's on this list or another. Note that we do in fact ask for help, but that it's usually the *last* thing we do[3]. If you've been on this list or any technical mailing list for a while, you'll notice a pattern among the posters there. - The more experienced posters (Group A) - pose questions about rather arcane or complex issues; things the average list member might not have any knowledge of, any need to know, or something just so far past the realm of what the average would think of, they'd never consider asking a question like that. - usually get a few responses of the form have you tried this?, or What if you went about it a slightly different way. With the occasional Wow, that's a tough one? Why do you need that?! - The younger/lesser experienced folks (Group B) - ask FAQs or rather simple questions. - get multitudes of answers, many duplicates or variations of the same theme. - are usually answered by the group above From this pattern, we can deduce several things: - The more experienced posters - know the simple stuff, therefore don't have to ask - know where/how to get the answers to most questions quickly without having to ask - probably read/experiment a lot - know how to use google effectively - The younger/lesser experienced folks - don't know the simple stuff yet - don't know where/how to get the answers quickly - haven't read (enough) - probably haven't experimented much - probably haven't googled Also note: - Everyone has been a member of Group A at sometime or other - Everyone *will* be a member of Group A for some amount of time for every new community they join - Upward mobility is not only possible, but encouraged! - The time it takes to move from Group B into Group A is largely dependant on: - How closely other already attained knowledge pertains to this new group. (i.e. lots of experience with general UNIX sysadmin lends greatly to the knowledge required to understanding Apache and Samba. Knoweldge of Windows, greatly aids configuring Samba even more.) - How quickly/often one reads/learns/experiments - How motivated the individual is in moving to Group A Footnotes: -- [1] Like the time I couldn't figure out why I had a routing problem, only to have pointed out by Ben that a) I configured a default route, and b) I didn't have anything at that address :) [2] I work with a bunch of MIT alumni. One of them is a mathematician because the EE/CS curriculum at MIT was so easy it was boring. [3] Of course, everyone is guilty of asking the occasional stupid question first without following the 7 steps above, regardless of whether it's due to a brain-fart, impatience, or whatever :) -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [NLC] Drip Dry Phone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Lussier wrote: Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is why Steve O recommends rinsing in DISTILLED water Must it be distilled? Would RO-filtered water be effective? Dunno, but the last RO water we got from Whole Foods was very strongly flavoured with chlorine. So I guess RO doesn't filter dissolved gasses -- but distillation should. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRFdnmZrNPMCpn3XdAQJzdQP/U1ra5wUm+qavNCQajo+m9dUJHpwZqf5k ZnTWkCf5VF8kYCnAaFszLuEU5wBbdesjHpkK3UBeVq8IzrXQsRHIYEX/yHY/QvhE rqrtbWd1+u3rdXqQvbWta2giiYnug93esQ4nj492M6q5X3ypX0rKWIkJZLDmCDUW celei2Ft2Zw= =IrzB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
BTW, the RSS feeds are working at this point. Issuing valid RSS 1.0 (RDF) and passes the tests at feedvalidator.org (today, anyway). Subscriptions are on a web basis, so to subscribe to changes in the Www web, use the URL: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/WebRss?skin=rss Change the Www to Main or Organizational to subscribe to them. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
Wow. I will save this email for future reference. It delivers a solid and comprehensive summary of the HOWTO stuff we all work and play with. And here I sit, with Reflection running my connections to the VAX and the Tru64 Alpha box from this Windows machine, well, above my right shoulder, a sagging shelf of OpenVMS, Tru64, and local site-specific docs threaten to bury me. Also a can of Air Wick, the Lavender Fields aroma, which was here when I got here; I didn't buy it. Second day on the gig, tech-savvy boss, and the bullpen here of three network/Windows guys, one telco guy, and one soon-to-leave VMS consultant. Life is good. Except it ain't Vermont and it ain't the Granite State. And today's steady rain is at least wetting down the remains of three major fires here in the Haht of the Commonwealth. Thanks much for your thoughts. Regahds, Dave On 5/2/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been on the list for a few years now and wouldn't dream of heckling Ben or anyone else here;way in awe of you guys.A, shucks :) I've been running Linux since RH 6.1 but what I know can fit on the business end of a pencil compared to you all.Well, not to spill a secret or anything, but everyone else on thislist started at the same point :) There are days when I feel like anidiot[1] compared to those I work with[2].Knowledge, like poverty, can often be a matter of perspective.In otherwords, you can make amillion dollars a year, but if you overspend, you're still broke, andstill feel like you don't make enough.It's the same withknowledge.The more you know, the more you realize you have to learn :) Most of us accumulated our knowledge following a simple 7 stepprogram (you can try this at home kids:)1. We read.2. We read a lot.3. We read multiple mediums and multiple sources.4. We attempt to apply what we read to reality. 5. We read some more.6. We correct for our mistakes7. Goto 1.After several iterations of that, we usually break down and asksomeone for help, whether it's on this list or another.Note that we do in fact ask for help, but that it's usually the *last* thing we do[3].If you've been on this list or any technical mailinglist for a while, you'll notice a pattern among the posters there.- The more experienced posters(Group A)- pose questions about rather arcane or complex issues; things the average list member might not have any knowledge of, anyneed to know, or something just so far past the realm of whatthe average would think of, they'd never consider asking a question like that.- usually get a few responses of the form have you tried this?,or What if you went about it a slightly different way. Withthe occasional Wow, that's a tough one? Why do you need that?!- The younger/lesser experienced folks (Group B) - ask FAQs or rather simple questions. - get multitudes of answers, many duplicates or variations of the same theme. - are usually answered by the group aboveFrom this pattern, we can deduce several things:- The more experienced posters - know the simple stuff, therefore don't have to ask - know where/how to get the answers to most questions quickly without having to ask - probably read/experiment a lot - know how to use google effectively- The younger/lesser experienced folks - don't know the simple stuff yet - don't know where/how to get the answers quickly - haven't read (enough) - probably haven't experimented much - probably haven't googledAlso note:- Everyone has been a member of Group A at sometime or other- Everyone *will* be a member of Group A for some amount of time for every new community they join- Upward mobility is not only possible, but encouraged!- The time it takes to move from Group B into Group A is largely dependant on:- How closely other already attained knowledge pertains to this new group.(i.e. lots of experience with general UNIX sysadmin lendsgreatly to the knowledge required to understanding Apache andSamba.Knoweldge of Windows, greatly aids configuring Samba even more.)- How quickly/often one reads/learns/experiments- How motivated the individual is in moving to Group AFootnotes:--[1] Like the time I couldn't figure out why I had a routing problem, only to have pointed out by Ben that a) I configured a default route, and b) I didn't have anything at that address :)[2] I work with a bunch of MIT alumni.One of them is a mathematician because the EE/CS curriculum at MIT was so easy it was boring.[3] Of course, everyone is guilty of asking the occasional stupid question first without following the 7 steps above, regardless of whether it's due to a brain-fart, impatience, or whatever :) --Seeya,Paul
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
What Paul said :-)Ignorance can be cured.Good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgement.In addition to all the reading, group A tends to play with things. It's like doing the homework in your math class. -- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures.- Daniel Webster
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the RSS feeds are working at this point. Issuing valid RSS 1.0 (RDF) and passes the tests at feedvalidator.org (today, anyway). Subscriptions are on a web basis, so to subscribe to changes in the Www web, use the URL: I'm not sure (I don't use RSS myself), but I think this http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/UpcomingEvents?skin=rss might work as well. It certainly does *something*. Maybe if you feed that to the right software, it will become a feed of upcoming events, or something like that. :) There is also a way to be notified by email (which I use): http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
On 5/2/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, not to spill a secret or anything, but everyone else on this list started at the same point :) SH!!! ;-) Most of us accumulated our knowledge following a simple 7 step program (you can try this at home kids:) 1. We read. 2. We read a lot. 3. We read multiple mediums and multiple sources. 4. We attempt to apply what we read to reality. 5. We read some more. 6. We correct for our mistakes 7. Goto 1. A good list. But you left out one (or rather, I suspect, assumed it): 0. We want to learn Simple curiosity -- the drive to understand -- will not only aid in one's quest to make the damn computer work, but is responsible for much of human civilization. Don't ever forget that. (Of course, if one is subscribed to this mailing list, Step 0 is probably taken care of, but the occasional reminder never hurts.) - The more experienced posters (Group A) - The younger/lesser experienced folks (Group B) You forgot Group C -- those who just came for the beer. ;-) Also note: - Everyone has been a member of Group A at sometime or other - Everyone *will* be a member of Group A for some amount of time for every new community they join Oops. s/Group A/Group b/ in the above. (Irony noted.) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
I'll add a situation or three to this discussion... I often ask the group questions when: 1) I'm looking for opinions from people I at least sort of know and are technically competent 2) I googled, and either I haven't thought of the right set of terms or it's a topic where the terms are used in too many other fields to yield good results 3) I've figured out how to do whatever-it-is myself, but my solution is so obviously clunky I'm ashamed to admit it exists, and I'm hoping for something more elegant. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On May 2, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Ben Scott wrote: I'm not sure (I don't use RSS myself), but I think this http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/UpcomingEvents?skin=rss might work as well. It certainly does *something*. Maybe if you feed that to the right software, it will become a feed of upcoming events, or something like that. :) No, I'm afraid that is an unholy mashup of a TWiki topic (in HTML) and a TWiki skin overlay (in pidgeon-XML) Getting the TWiki to generate RSS at all was an elegant hack, but it's only been implemented at the web-wide level. There is also a way to be notified by email (which I use): http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify Yup, I'm subscribed to all of them. -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott I've been a huge enthusiast for years now. I use RSS to skim headlines every day in the New York Times, InfoWorld, Computer World, Slashdot, OSNews, Ars Technica, and dozens of other sites (the complete list is in the righthand column at http://radio.weblogs.com/ 0117767), post a number of blogs with RSS feeds, and used RSS to intercommunicate between apps in the past. RSS is a simple XML format, but the combination of that with XML-RPC and smart readers and aggregators has lead to some pretty nity communities, with more innovation coming along. RSS Rocks. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott I've been a huge enthusiast for years now RSS Rocks. So when are you giving a presentation on RSS? :-) -- Ben I'm serious Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
esr posts a delightful essay on How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Which is a treasure. I find the most amazing effect happens when: 1. I'm bollixed and want to ask a question. 2. I respect the time of my fellow forum members, so... 3. I carefully document the steps I've taken, the sources I've researched, 4. I realize I haven't fully tested some avenues of inquiry I know people will ask, so 5. I do a few more tests and capture the results for posting, and 6. I find my own answer and delete the post before sending. I get the answer to the question, respect the group all the more, don't pester them with RTFM questions. Win, win, win. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Guess you missed it. I'd have to dust them off and learn a bit more about what's new with RSS. Ed Lawson gave a demo on an RSS reader, Straw, to CentraLUG a while ago. David Berube will be doing an upcoming presentation on RSS and Ruby. What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested in? RSS is built into the latest browsers, there are a zillion readers available, and most blogging software or community software (TWiki. Joomla, Xaraya) generates RSS automatically. Are folks interested in the dirty little format details, the big picture, what software is out there... ideas? On May 2, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Ben Scott wrote: On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott I've been a huge enthusiast for years now RSS Rocks. So when are you giving a presentation on RSS? :-) -- Ben I'm serious Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: 2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested in? For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense. Part of what I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and what aspects are there? -- Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
Got this forwarded from a friend; it looks like the original sender -- and, therefore, contact -- is one James Fogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -Ken To: Sandy Fraser (sandyf) Subject: [Fwd: Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's] no idea why someone would have these lying around know anyone that has a nostalgic frame of mind for Alphas? Original Message Subject:Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:27:58 -0400 From: James Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a contact in Billerica Massachusetts that has a large (50+) collection of Digital Alpha Servers, Model 4100. All work. Some are A/C powered, some are D/C powered. All have 1 to 4 533Mhz processors and 1+ gig of memory. Storage (disks) wasn't specified. Unknown if they are Pedestal or rack mount, but with that many I'd expect rack mount. NOTE!! These DON'T run Windows (although they will run a special Alpha-only version of Windows NT4). They are servers and about the size of 3 tower-style PC's together. They take standard PCI cards, but use SCSI disks and special memory. They are not PC's, they are not Intel compatible. They are extremely fast and ultra-reliable. These systems will run Linux, Tru64 UNIX, VMS or a special version of Windows NT4. Linux and VMS are available for free (VMS requires a hobbyist license that is free). NT4 may still be available, not sure. I know I have NT4 running on mine and it works great. Contact me if interested. Please indicate that you understand what these are. I don't want people complaining that they can't install Windows XP on them. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: (Free) Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
Hmmm. Sorry for the repeat message, but it occurred to me that I neglected to mention that stuff advertised through Freecycle has one -- and only one -- requirement: it be for free. Therefore, one can reasonably assume (though I'd check with James, first) that these Alphas are gratis, most likely on a first-come, first-served basis. -Ken On Tue, May 2, 2006 2:25 pm, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Got this forwarded from a friend; it looks like the original sender -- and, therefore, contact -- is one James Fogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -Ken To: Sandy Fraser (sandyf) Subject: [Fwd: Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's] no idea why someone would have these lying around know anyone that has a nostalgic frame of mind for Alphas? Original Message Subject: Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:27:58 -0400 From: James Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a contact in Billerica Massachusetts that has a large (50+) collection of Digital Alpha Servers, Model 4100. All work. Some are A/C powered, some are D/C powered. All have 1 to 4 533Mhz processors and 1+ gig of memory. Storage (disks) wasn't specified. Unknown if they are Pedestal or rack mount, but with that many I'd expect rack mount. NOTE!! These DON'T run Windows (although they will run a special Alpha-only version of Windows NT4). They are servers and about the size of 3 tower-style PC's together. They take standard PCI cards, but use SCSI disks and special memory. They are not PC's, they are not Intel compatible. They are extremely fast and ultra-reliable. These systems will run Linux, Tru64 UNIX, VMS or a special version of Windows NT4. Linux and VMS are available for free (VMS requires a hobbyist license that is free). NT4 may still be available, not sure. I know I have NT4 running on mine and it works great. Contact me if interested. Please indicate that you understand what these are. I don't want people complaining that they can't install Windows XP on them. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
Yow! We had an Alpha at MCLX running Linux and it truly was an astonishingly fast machine. I hope they all find good homes... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
On 5/2/06, Ken D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a contact in Billerica Massachusetts that has a large (50+) collection of Digital Alpha Servers, Model 4100. Product info: http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/archive/4100/ If it wasn't for the fact that I have no place to put them, I'd be sorely temped. The Alpha is (was) a really nice design. They just *felt* fast when you used them. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [NLC] Drip Dry Phone
Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dunno, but the last RO water we got from Whole Foods was very strongly flavoured with chlorine. So I guess RO doesn't filter dissolved gasses -- but distillation should. I ask, because we have an RO filter on our tap for drinking water, and was wondering if there's something special about the distillation process that somehow changes the water, or pertinent fact is the purity of water, regardless of the means of attaining that purity. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
Yow! We had an Alpha at MCLX running Linux and it truly was an astonishingly fast machine. I hope they all find good homes... Ooh! What distribution? In our case it was Debian: http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/ftplist http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May
Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll add a situation or three to this discussion... I often ask the group questions when: 1) I'm looking for opinions from people I at least sort of know and are technically competent That falls into the Group A type question of more complex question which wouldn't occur to lesser experienced people 2) I googled, and either I haven't thought of the right set of terms or it's a topic where the terms are used in too many other fields to yield good results Same as above, more or less. 3) I've figured out how to do whatever-it-is myself, but my solution is so obviously clunky I'm ashamed to admit it exists, and I'm hoping for something more elegant. Group B member striving for Group A membership. :) -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On 5/2/06, Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: 2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested in?For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense.Part ofwhat I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and whataspects are there?I was using the Sage extension in firefox and now I use bloglines to read RSS feeds. I've been using RSS for about a year now. If you're an old internet user, RSS is like news groups. It shows the headlines of each subject you haven't seen yet.So, instead of going to slashdot.org, I read the RSS and see only the newest headlines that I didn't see the last time I went to my RSS reader. If you keep up on a number of web sites, RSS lets you see just the stuff that's changed. If you want more info you can drill down into the link. Some readers allow you to keep something new every time you go to the reader. RSS lets me skim many more websites in the same amount of time. Or the same sites in less time. It's great to get the latest from NY Times, O'Reilly, Slashdot, Sun BigAdmin, Debian News, etc... And you don't have to sift through the stuff you already saw. I'm sure there's more to RSS then that, but that's what I get from bloglines.com and Sage.-- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:45:23PM -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested in? For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense. Part of what I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and what aspects are there? The short answer is you, as a knowledge worker, can better keep yourself informed with what is happening out there in news, (tech|politics) blogs, wikis, and pretty much any frequently-updated site. A lot of search sites (google, technorati, MSN search, etc) let you setup searchs that return in RSS format. For example anytime someone mentions, say my name, in a blog, it shows up in the aggregator. Flickr lets you create feeds based on particular tags, say all those photos tagged with MySQLUC06. My personal RSS aggregator of choice is currently http://bloglines.com with over 300 feeds (not that it is ever 'caught up') It really changes the way I use the web. No longer do I hit slashdot.org, cnn.com, cnet.com, sourceforge.net looking for new info. Nor do I have to remember to check in with amusing blogs like jwz.org to see if he has updated -- now it just shows up in my list of feeds. -marc -- Marc Nozell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nozell.com/blog ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
http://bloglines.com Another thumbs up for bloglines. One nice thing about this site is that if you frequently use multiple computers (I do) they will all naturally be in-sync. That is, if I catch-up with a feed at 6am on one computer and then hit bloglines on another computer at 8am, I will only see new posts to that feed. Very handy. --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd alumni.unh.edu!kdc Is an epileptic fit -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes
On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:32:39 -0400, Marc Nozell wrote: It really changes the way I use the web. No longer do I hit slashdot.org, cnn.com, cnet.com, sourceforge.net looking for new info. Nor do I have to remember to check in with amusing blogs like jwz.org to see if he has updated -- now it just shows up in my list of feeds. Seconded. I use Liferea (http://liferea.sf.net) as my RSS app, and team that up with Dillo (http://www.dillo.org) as its external browser. This combo has drastically cut the time that it takes me to keep up with the sites I like to follow; Liferea lets me pick and choose those articles that I truly want to read from among the rest, and Dillo fires up almost instantly while completely ignoring all of the rubbish (Flash, etc.) to be found on many of these pages, stuff which only wastes my bandwidth and tries to distract my attention from the information that I seek. -- Bill Mullen RLU #270075 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Reminder: CentraLUG, NEXT Monday, May 1st: What We Saw at LinuxWorld Boston
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:05:38 -0400 Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May 1, 2006Monday, 7pm at NHTI ...This month, we'll be meeting in Room 146 of the Library/Learning Center/Bookstore, http://www.nhti.net/nhtimap.pdf , marked as I on that map. Open to the public. Free admission. Tell your friends. Tonight's cookies: Janet's lemon-iced shortbreads -Bill ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Alphas, Alphas, Alphas...
They're all gone :-( ... James didn't even get one. Andy On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 14:25 -0400, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Got this forwarded from a friend; it looks like the original sender -- and, therefore, contact -- is one James Fogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -Ken To: Sandy Fraser (sandyf) Subject: [Fwd: Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's] no idea why someone would have these lying around know anyone that has a nostalgic frame of mind for Alphas? Original Message Subject: Freecycle Concord,NH OFFER: Computers - Digital Alpha Server 4100's Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:27:58 -0400 From: James Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a contact in Billerica Massachusetts that has a large (50+) collection of Digital Alpha Servers, Model 4100. All work. Some are A/C powered, some are D/C powered. All have 1 to 4 533Mhz processors and 1+ gig of memory. Storage (disks) wasn't specified. Unknown if they are Pedestal or rack mount, but with that many I'd expect rack mount. NOTE!! These DON'T run Windows (although they will run a special Alpha-only version of Windows NT4). They are servers and about the size of 3 tower-style PC's together. They take standard PCI cards, but use SCSI disks and special memory. They are not PC's, they are not Intel compatible. They are extremely fast and ultra-reliable. These systems will run Linux, Tru64 UNIX, VMS or a special version of Windows NT4. Linux and VMS are available for free (VMS requires a hobbyist license that is free). NT4 may still be available, not sure. I know I have NT4 running on mine and it works great. Contact me if interested. Please indicate that you understand what these are. I don't want people complaining that they can't install Windows XP on them. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Reminder USENIX '06 discount deadline approaching
I go a note from Peter Mui at USENIX reminding me Begin forwarded message: USENIX is holding it's annual technical conference (USENIX '06) in Boston again this year: May 30 - June 2. People should register before the May 12 early bird registration deadline for the best pricing: there's also an additional discount for five or more people registering together ($100 off per person.) See the text-based conference announcement below: there's also a pdf flyer you can print out at http://usenix.org/events/usenix06/ promote.html Many thanks, -Peter Peter Mui USENIX Association 2560 9th Street STE 215 Berkeley, CA 94710 510 528 8649 ext. 28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cut here) == Register NOW for USENIX '06: the Annual Technical Conference of the USENIX Association at http://www.usenix.org/usenix06/progm USENIX is back in Boston this May 30 through June 3 with the latest research, security breakthroughs, and practical approaches to the questions and problems you wrestle with. You'll also have many opportunities to chat with peers who share your concerns and interests. *** Over 30 tutorials, featuring: o Dan Geer on Measuring Security o Alex Russell on Ajax and Advanced Responsive WebApp Development o AEleen Frisch on Administering Linux in Production Environments o Abe Singer on Building a Logging Infrastructure and Log Analysis for Security o Bill Cheswick on Defense Against the Dark Arts: Repelling the Wily Hacker (See details at http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix06/ training/) *** Three concurrent tracks of Technical Sessions including Invited Talks, a Systems Practice and Experience track, and a Guru track with your favorite academics and industry researchers on such timely topics as: o Greg Brandeau of Pixar on Why Mr. Incredible and Buzz Lightyear Need Better Tools (Plenary) o Trevor Blackwell of Anybots on Real Operating Systems for Real- time Motion Control o Peiter Mudge Zatko of BBN on Success, Failure, and Alternative Solutions for Network Security o Matt Welsh of Harvard on Deploying a Sensor Network on an Active Volcano (See details at http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix06/tech/ ) *** Keynote by Larry Peterson of Princeton on Planetlab: Evolution vs. Intelligent Design in Planetary-Scale Infrastructure *** Works-In-Progress Reports (WIPs) round out a rich week overflowing with presentations, information, and collaboration. Also: don't miss the opportunity to pose your toughest questions to the experts in the Guru Is In Sessions. Mingle with colleagues and leading experts at the Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BoFs) and at the various evening social events, including a Poster Session Happy Hour, vendor sessions, and an off-site conference reception. USENIX '06 promises to be an exciting showcase for the latest in innovative research and cutting-edge practices in technology. We look forward to seeing you in Boston in May. -- WHAT: USENIX '06 WHEN: May 30 - June 3, 2006 WHERE: Boston, MA: Marriott Hotel Copley Place WHO:Anyone interested in state-of-the-art computing issues WHY:To get to and stay on the leading edge of practical and actionable research and tools HOW:http://www.usenix.org/usenix06/progm -- Five or more people registering together get $100 off per person! Early-Bird Registration discounts end May 12 -- register NOW for the best pricing at: http://www.usenix.org/usenix06/progm == ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
