Re: Net Neutrality. What good is a free operating system without a network?
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/11/06, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why, exactly, should ISPs be required to charge a flat rate? > >> ... For just about everything in the world, the more you use, > >> the more you pay. ... Why is data transfer different from the > >> rest of the universe? > > > > Data, on the other hand, *is* in a different universe. Your ISP does not > > incur costs on a per-packet basis. > > That's not actually true. We just like to look at it that way. > The shared network is always oversubscribed -- meaning the backbone > capacity is less than the aggregate of all the subscriber connections. ... > But this also means that the more bandwidth a subscriber uses, the >bigger the slice of the shared network pie they consume. ... > Now, pricing structure isn't just about bits. In many cases, the >average subscriber usage pattern is good enough, so it isn't worth the >hassle of metered billing. Just charge people a flat rate and be done >with it. But that's a statistical business decision. The costs are >still there. Right. > So, if a carrier wants to charge Google more money because they eat >up more infrastructure than GNHLUG does, that alone doesn't make me >want to take to the streets with a torch and a pitchfork. What if it's not Google's ISP that wants to charge Google extra, but one or more of the other carriers along the way? I guess I would like to discourage a carrier from interfering with competing services - e.g. a phone company interfering with VOIP offered by some other company. On the other hand, I don't mind a company intefering with a DDOS attack or spam. But how to draw the line? - Jim Van Zandt ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: NetLOCK error messages in syslog.
On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 14:02 -0400, quoth Ben Scott: =>On 5/12/06, Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> NetLOCK: total memory limit exceeded, using 3071900 bytes, request for 180 =>> bytes =>> =>> =>> I seem to be getting a lot of these and I've never seen them before. Anyone =>> know what they mean? Is it bad? Anyone? => => Obviously, something called "NetLOCK" tried to allocate more memory, =>and failed. That's usually not a good sign if you need the program =>that's having trouble. => => You might want to check your total memory status. Try the command =>"free -m -t". => => A Google for "NetLock" appears to find lots of people using that =>name for one thing or another. A VPN client seems like a likely =>canidate. Are you using a VPN? => =>-- Ben Found it. Thanks. It was some IPSEC thing I was running. -- steveo at syslang dot net TMMP1 http://frambors.syslang.net/ Do you have neighbors who are not frambors? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: NetLOCK error messages in syslog.
On 5/12/06, Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NetLOCK: total memory limit exceeded, using 3071900 bytes, request for 180 bytes I seem to be getting a lot of these and I've never seen them before. Anyone know what they mean? Is it bad? Anyone? Obviously, something called "NetLOCK" tried to allocate more memory, and failed. That's usually not a good sign if you need the program that's having trouble. You might want to check your total memory status. Try the command "free -m -t". A Google for "NetLock" appears to find lots of people using that name for one thing or another. A VPN client seems like a likely canidate. Are you using a VPN? -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
NetLOCK error messages in syslog.
NetLOCK: total memory limit exceeded, using 3071900 bytes, request for 180 bytes I seem to be getting a lot of these and I've never seen them before. Anyone know what they mean? Is it bad? Anyone? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Chris Schmidt speaks at Where 2.0
On 5/12/06, Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [1] http://www.crschmidt.net/ No www! http://crschmidt.net/ :) They look the same to me. :) -- Ben "Ach tee tee pee colon slash slash slash dot dot org" Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Using the serial port for GPIO.
Tom Buskey wrote: People usually use the parallel port for this kind of stuff. 8 outputs and at least 5 inputs. More inputs are possible w/ the newer bidirectional ports. parpin on sourceforge lets you work on individual pins. There's tons of info on using the parallel port for digital I/O out there. Thanks Tom, this is extremely useful and exactly what I'm looking for for some of the I/O I'll be doing! Scott -- Scott Garman sgarman at iname dot com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Using the serial port for GPIO.
In addition to the other fine answers already given... On 5/12/06, Scott Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone here ever used the Linux serial port drivers as general purpose I/O? Yes. But not me. :) Many UPSes use DSR, CD, CTS, etc., as signals for power failure, low battery, etc. They don't actually use RS-232 at all. (Others do actually send serial data.) The software that monitors UPSes thus has to do what you're describing. If I have no other options, my plan is to write a /proc kernel driver so user space programs can get access to this information ... I'm pretty sure you don't need to write a new driver. All the signals "from the modem" can be read, and most of the signals "to the modem" can be set, using the existing serial driver. Any modem program (e.g., minicom) does this. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Using the serial port for GPIO.
Not quite what you're asking for, but in a past life I wrote a fairly straightforward user space program that accomplished something like you described. IIRC it setup some named pipes and then allowed read/writes via those pipes to query/set the levels of the modem control lines (i.e. RTS/CTS and friends) via the standard ioctls... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
On Thursday, May 11th 2006 at 11:27 -0400, quoth Kent Johnson: =>Hi, => =>My domain kentsjohnson.com is currently hosted by Yahoo Small Business =>Domains. They don't host the actual web site, they just register the domain =>and maintain the DNS entry. Web site access and email are both redirected to =>my ISP account which hosts the actual site and mail servers that I use. For =>this service I pay $35 / year. => =>When it works, this is fine. Unfortunately the email forwarding is unreliable. =>Currently mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is bouncing with a delivery failure =>notice. => =>Can anyone recommend an inexpensive, reliable replacement for this service? I =>don't need or want to pay for site hosting, I just need the DNS registration =>and forwarding. Sounds like a lot of money to me. I use zoneedit.com. I pay them $10 about once every 3 or 4 years. The service is free but the $10 is for them to supply a secondary mx record. So at the end of 4 years I spend $10 and you spend $720. -- steveo at syslang dot net TMMP1 http://frambors.syslang.net/ Do you have neighbors who are not frambors? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Using the serial port for GPIO.
On 5/12/06, Scott Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone here ever used the Linux serial port drivers as generalpurpose I/O? By that I mean not using the port for RS-232 protocolcommunications, but querying and setting the levels of individual pinson the port. This is for an embedded systems project I'm working on. People usually use the parallel port for this kind of stuff. 8 outputs and at least 5 inputs. More inputs are possible w/ the newer bidirectional ports.parpin on sourceforge lets you work on individual pins. There's tons of info on using the parallel port for digital I/O out there. -- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
On Friday 12 May 2006 10:55 am, Paul Lussier wrote: > Neil Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Friday 12 May 2006 09:54 am, Paul Lussier wrote: > >> DynDNS.org will handle the DNS for you free of charge for upto 5 > >> hosts, I think, as long as you use one of their domains. However, I > >> want to register my own domain, and still have someone deal with the > >> dynamic DNS mapping for me. Does anyone remember what the name of the > >> organization was that allows this? > > > > I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but DynDNS does "Custom DNS" too > > that lets you host whatever domain you want with them, not just > > subdomains attached to their freebie ones. > > Is it free, or is it a pay-for service? The custom DNS is a pay service... and probably more expensive than it's competition. I only brought them up because I know they have a lot of the email/dns services you were originally asking about. I don't use them all and really only use DNS. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
Paul Lussier wrote: I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but DynDNS does "Custom DNS" too that lets you host whatever domain you want with them, not just subdomains attached to their freebie ones. Is it free, or is it a pay-for service? Pay-for. See their web site. Kent ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
Neil Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 12 May 2006 09:54 am, Paul Lussier wrote: >> DynDNS.org will handle the DNS for you free of charge for upto 5 >> hosts, I think, as long as you use one of their domains. However, I >> want to register my own domain, and still have someone deal with the >> dynamic DNS mapping for me. Does anyone remember what the name of the >> organization was that allows this? > > I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but DynDNS does "Custom DNS" too that > lets you host whatever domain you want with them, not just subdomains > attached to their freebie ones. Is it free, or is it a pay-for service? -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: perl - sometimes it *does* resemble line noise... (long)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) writes:
> Paul Lussier writes:
>
>> And there you have it. 'return map {...} map {...} grep {...}
>> split(...);' Short, concise, no need for a bunch of temp variables
>> that only get used once and thrown away. I like it. Others, well,
>> not so much :)
>
> If this is production code (not "write-once" code) in my opinion the
> original version of the code that you presented is preferable.
As I stated earlier on in the post, what I started with and ended up
with was largely the same. The multi-map/grep/split thing was the
result of a couple refactorings before I came to the same conclusion
:)
> I say this, of course, as somebody who is an enthusiastic Perl
> programmer. Code that is hard to understand and maintain will
> eventually either get rewritten or junked.
Yep, that's why I ended up using a bunch of temp. variables in the
end. Readability/maintainability was enhanced greatly at little/no
cost.
--
Seeya,
Paul
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Re: Emacs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) writes: > Paul Lussier writes: > >> What version of emacs and gnus are you using? > > XEmacs 21.4 (patch 18) "Social Property" [Lucid] (i386-redhat-linux, Mule) > Gnus v5.10.7 > > ...but I've used many other older versions over the years. > > You are apparently using this, BTW: > > Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) > Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Indeed. I compile emacs/gnus out of CVS. 22 has some features 21 doesn't that I needed at the time (don't ask me what, I don't remember:) I asked the version because I was curious if you had stepped up to 22 as well, or were still using 21. Those whom I've heard complain are on 21, and in some cases, possibly 20. > >> I also vaguely remember someone mentioning that "we need to use a >> different ssl program" for the value ssl-program-name. I don't know >> what was wrong with the standard openssl, or what we were supposed to >> use. It could be that was part of the problems. > > I can remember something to this effect a VERY long time ago, but I > can't remember the details. This artifact (if it existed) shouldn't > be relevant now. Then *that* could be the problem if they're still using a config from eons ago, and the current situation as changed in this area. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Using the serial port for GPIO.
Scott Garman writes: > Has anyone here ever used the Linux serial port drivers as general > purpose I/O? _Linux Device Drivers_, 2nd Edition, by Alessandro Rubini & Jonathan Corbet covers this subject pretty well. I recommend it highly. Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd alumni.unh.edu!kdc Is an epileptic fit -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: perl - sometimes it *does* resemble line noise... (long)
Paul Lussier writes:
> And there you have it. 'return map {...} map {...} grep {...}
> split(...);' Short, concise, no need for a bunch of temp variables
> that only get used once and thrown away. I like it. Others, well,
> not so much :)
If this is production code (not "write-once" code) in my opinion the
original version of the code that you presented is preferable.
I say this, of course, as somebody who is an enthusiastic Perl
programmer. Code that is hard to understand and maintain will
eventually either get rewritten or junked.
Just another Perl hacker,
--kevin
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Using the serial port for GPIO.
Has anyone here ever used the Linux serial port drivers as general purpose I/O? By that I mean not using the port for RS-232 protocol communications, but querying and setting the levels of individual pins on the port. This is for an embedded systems project I'm working on. If I have no other options, my plan is to write a /proc kernel driver so user space programs can get access to this information, but I have a strong feeling that this kind of thing has been done many times before, and may even be possible with existing utilities that I just don't know about. setserial, for example, allows you to configure the port and IRQ that a serial device is set to. I want something just a bit higher-level than that, to be able to read/set the RTS pin, for example. The serial devices I'm working with are plain vanilla 16550 UARTs on common PC hardware. Thanks, Scott PS - Information on doing the same thing via the parallel port would also be very relevant to me. -- Scott Garman sgarman at iname dot com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
On Friday 12 May 2006 09:54 am, Paul Lussier wrote: > DynDNS.org will handle the DNS for you free of charge for upto 5 > hosts, I think, as long as you use one of their domains. However, I > want to register my own domain, and still have someone deal with the > dynamic DNS mapping for me. Does anyone remember what the name of the > organization was that allows this? I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but DynDNS does "Custom DNS" too that lets you host whatever domain you want with them, not just subdomains attached to their freebie ones. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Replacement for Yahoo Domains
Neil Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's pretty expensive - have you looked at DynDNS.org? They've > got a lot of good services along those lines and they are very good > at what they do. -N At one time someone here also posted a different service similar to DynDNS.org which would also allow you to use your own domain names. DynDNS.org will handle the DNS for you free of charge for upto 5 hosts, I think, as long as you use one of their domains. However, I want to register my own domain, and still have someone deal with the dynamic DNS mapping for me. Does anyone remember what the name of the organization was that allows this? -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
perl - sometimes it *does* resemble line noise... (long)
I thought some on this list might be (interested|amused|horrified) at
some code I wrote recently. Be forewarned, the code in this e-mail is
not meant for those with low tolerances for ugly hacks :)
I wrote this function yesterday, the purpose of which is to ssh to a
remote machine and determine the number of interefaces and their MAC
addresses and return a list of "if mac" pairs. Normally I'd probably
return a hash, but this function needed to mimic the behavior of
another function which does the same thing by a different means, so I
was trapped into this style of return.
Ironically, what I ended up with, was more or less exactly what I
started out with but there was a lot of refactoring in the middle.
The code here is fairly readable, and straight forward[1]. Which is a
good thing, since it also means it's easily maintainable in the long
run.
##
# Ping the host and return the MAC address associated with that IP
#
# @param host The host
# @return ifconfig The MAC address for this IP
##
sub getMacs {
my ($host) = assertNumArgs(1,@_);
my $ping = Net::Ping->new();
my $iface = '((?:\w+(?:[0-9]+|:[0-9]+))|lo)' ;
my $macRegex = 'HWaddr\s([A-Fa-f0-9]{1,2}(?::[A-Fa-f0-9]{1,2}){5})' ;
# check if we can get to the host to check it's Mac addresses
if (!$ping->ping($host)) {
$log->error("Can not ping $host to obtain MAC Addresses");
return;
}
# find out what interfaces it has from /proc
my $procInterfaces
= (assertRemoteCommand($host, "grep : /proc/net/dev", "-l root"))->{stdout};
# take only the interesting interfaces
my @Interfaces
= grep { s/:.*// && s/^\s+// && !/^lo$/ } split(/\n/, $procInterfaces);
# get only the interface name/Mac address line
my @ifconfig = map { (assertRemoteCommand($host,
"/sbin/ifconfig $_ | grep HW",
"-l root"))->{stdout} } @interfaces;
chomp(@ifconfig);
# remove all but the name and Mac address
map { s/$iface.*$macRegex.*/$1 $2/g} @ifconfig;
# return a list in the same format as athinfo() does.
return @ifconfig;
}
What I started out with wasn't too much different from this. It was,
I think, a little simpler, but some of the original simplicity got
lost in all the refactoring along the way, and, I think, in some
places, even replaced with correctness :)
At one point, I asked a friend to come and review my code. This
person happens to be a scheme/lisp afficianado as well as one of the
best perl hackers I've ever run into[2]. After about 15 minutes of
hacking, we had refactored the above code into about 3 variable
declarations and a return statement which consisted of a something like
'map {...} grep {...} split (...);' But I found a minor bug in it
later on. Rather than returning a list of "foo bar" strings, it
was returning a list of object references. So I quickly hacked out a
more "correct"[3] return statement. The final function looked like this:
sub getMacs {
my ($host) = assertNumArgs(1,@_);
my $ping = Net::Ping->new();
my $iface = '((?:\w+(?:[0-9]+|:[0-9]+))|lo)' ;
my $macRegex = 'HWaddr\s([A-Fa-f0-9]{1,2}(?::[A-Fa-f0-9]{1,2}){5})' ;
# check if we can get to the host to check it's Mac addresses
if (!$ping->ping($host)) {
$log->error("Can not ping $host to obtain MAC Addresses");
return;
}
# find out what interfaces it has from /proc
my $interfaces
= assertRemoteCommand($host, "grep : /proc/net/dev", "-l root");
return map { chomp($_->{stdout});
$_->{stdout} =~ s/$iface.*$macRegex/$1 $2/g;
"$1 $2";
} map { assertRemoteCommand($host,
"/sbin/ifconfig $_ | grep HW",
"-l root") }
grep { !/^lo$/ && s/^\s+// && s/:.*//g }
split(/\n/, $interfaces->{stdout});
}
And there you have it. 'return map {...} map {...} grep {...}
split(...);' Short, concise, no need for a bunch of temp variables
that only get used once and thrown away. I like it. Others, well,
not so much :)
One guy IM'ed me back (on the dev channel where this conversation
took place) and simply stated "I'm stunned!". My friend the
perl/lisp hacker replied, "Wow. That's a bit much, even for me!", and
still someone else replied, "Can you *do* that?! I wouldn't expect
all that to work!"
I hope someone gets as much amusement out of this as I have :) Don't
try this at home folks!
--
Seeya,
Paul
[1] The only non-standard constructs in this code are the calls to
assertRemoteCommand, which is a function which does what it says,
or dies trying and returns an object with all the information
you'd need to know about the command executed. The comment
structure above the function is also part of our standard style
and is referred to as 'pdoc'. It's something locally d
Re: Emacs
Paul Lussier writes: > What version of emacs and gnus are you using? XEmacs 21.4 (patch 18) "Social Property" [Lucid] (i386-redhat-linux, Mule) Gnus v5.10.7 ...but I've used many other older versions over the years. You are apparently using this, BTW: Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) >>> [1] I've heard of current state being reset on all messages, flags >>> spontaneously removed, assigned, re-arranged, etc. as well as >> >> I have never experienced any such problems. > > I think there was some .newsrc-dribble and/or .newsrc.eld corruption > involved. So it might not have been gnu's fault directly. Since it > wasn't me having the problem, I don't remember the details all that > clearly. Hmm. > I also vaguely remember someone mentioning that "we need to use a > different ssl program" for the value ssl-program-name. I don't know > what was wrong with the standard openssl, or what we were supposed to > use. It could be that was part of the problems. I can remember something to this effect a VERY long time ago, but I can't remember the details. This artifact (if it existed) shouldn't be relevant now. Regards, --kevin -- Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only for food: frequently there must be a beverage. -- Woody Allen ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Chris Schmidt speaks at Where 2.0
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 09:09:31AM -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > On his home page [1], Chris Schmidt announces, "I'm going to be > giving a lightning talk called 'Geolocation with GSM Cells' at > O'Reilly's Where 2.0 [2] conference, on June 14th, 2006." Yep. I'd advise people to go, then I realized that they're charging $1200 a head for entrance. I wouldn't ever insist that people actually pay that much to see a 5 minute lightning talk, although I do think it'll be a really great conference all in all. So, if you're in the geo field, and your boss will pay for it, go to this conference! :) > Congratulations! Thanks! > [1] http://www.crschmidt.net/ No www! http://crschmidt.net/ :) -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Chris Schmidt speaks at Where 2.0
On his home page [1], Chris Schmidt announces, "I'm going to be giving a lightning talk called 'Geolocation with GSM Cells' at O'Reilly's Where 2.0 [2] conference, on June 14th, 2006." Congratulations! [1] http://www.crschmidt.net/ [2] http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2006/ Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Emacs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) writes: > BTW, the IMAP server that I have had the most luck with is Courier. > It is the only one that has withstood my abuse so far. Dovecot might > be better now, but I haven't tried it lately. What version of emacs and gnus are you using? The problems I've heard/seen could be due to several factors, not the least of which could that the version of emacs/Gnus here might be older and have trouble dealing with an SSL connection. The config you sent in the previous post is very similar to what I ended up with when I was mucking around with gnus an imap. >> [1] I've heard of current state being reset on all messages, flags >> spontaneously removed, assigned, re-arranged, etc. as well as > > I have never experienced any such problems. I think there was some .newsrc-dribble and/or .newsrc.eld corruption involved. So it might not have been gnu's fault directly. Since it wasn't me having the problem, I don't remember the details all that clearly. I also vaguely remember someone mentioning that "we need to use a different ssl program" for the value ssl-program-name. I don't know what was wrong with the standard openssl, or what we were supposed to use. It could be that was part of the problems. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
MonadLUG last night: 11-May-2006: Ted Roche: Remote access to heterogeneous computers
Nine attendees met last night in Peterborough for the monthly MonadLUG meeting. We reviewed upcoming events from the main gnhlug.org web site front page, Looked over the pictures from Hosstraders, and talked about some ongoing projects, like by-laws and re-habbing older computers. Guy Pardoe emceed the meeting. Guy also asked for some future topics. Rich, our semi-regular attendee from Toronto, suggested MythTV, a pretty popular request. Ted asked for a session (maybe a mini-demo) on 'screen' and another on NX (http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology). Ted's presentation dovetailed with the great materials presented by Ken D'Ambrosio on OpenVPN and Bill Stearn's on ssh. Rather than dig into the details or cover all of the aspects of security or implementation, Ted focused on the practical "How do I screen scrape a client's screen or a remote server?" Ted develops database and LAMP applications for small- and medium-sized businesses. He showed how to use a terminal window on his Ubuntu laptop to remotely access the development server at his business. Building on that, he redirected various ports to remotely and securely access the web server and Webmin server on that machine to view LAMP apps in development, maintain a database with phpMyAdmin, or maintain the server using WebMin. Finally, he combined this with redirecting ports within his business LAN (but not on the ssh server) so that he could remotely access other services inside his firewall, using VNC to view the desktop of his iMac. As is usual in these events, discussion was lively and ranged near and far (wireless access, choices of desktops and distros,...) . A lot of good ideas were kicked around. Thanks to all for participating, to Guy for moderating the meeting and to Ken for providing us with the facilities. Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
