Re: Something nice to say about Microsoft Server 2003...
- Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: Re: Something nice to say about Microsoft Server 2003... On 7/11/06, hewitt_tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Be sure you create the "Fault Tolerant Boot Disk" floppy or whatever it's called, so you can boot from the second hard drive if the first malfunctions. It may not be necessary with Server 2003. The system asked me if I wanted to boot from the second drive after a cold boot. Another possibility is that it's coming from the boot loader on the first disk. Now, my experience with Win 2000 and FT (Fault Tolerant) disks is limited, but I believe Windows 2000 (AKA NT 5.0) is pretty much the same as NT 4.0 in this regard. And here's how it worked in NT 4.0: NTLDR reads the BOOT.INI file from the same partition NTLDR is on. NTLDR then presents you with the choices listed in that file. Once you've picked a boot choice, NTLDR loads the system files from that partition and boots the NT kernel. NTLDR knows nothing about FT disks. It can only see BIOS physical disks. (Strictly speaking, that's inaccurate, but it will do.) It isn't until the NT kernel is running that FT disks become available. But NTLDR is read-only, and it can read from a mirror set member as if it was a regular disk, and that good enough to get the kernel running. (This is the same way Linux boots off RAID, BTW.) Now, BOOT.INI can list both mirror set members as boot choices. NTLDR will load from either mirror set member that way. This is useful is the first member is damaged and fails to start successfully. You pick the other member at boot time and the system comes up with one working disk. However, NTLDR itself is loaded by the BIOS, and many BIOSes only support booting from the first hard disk. If the first hard disk is damaged, that can prevent NTLDR from coming up, which prevents you from even getting the choice to boot NT from the other disk. So, the "Fault Tolerant Boot Disk" is basically a copy of NTLDR on floppy disk (just like GRUB or LILO on a floppy), with a copy of the BOOT.INI from the Windows system partition. If the first hard disk goes dead, you pop the floppy in the drive, hit RESET, and pick the second boot option. Or, more likely, you tell the frantic customer this over the phone at 3 AM on a Saturday. :-) Google finds more information: Overview of Disk Mirroring (RAID Level 1) in Windows NT http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=114779 Booting From Mirror After Primary Partition Is Lost http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=113977 Reasons why Windows NT does not boot from a shadow mirror drive http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=167045 How to Recover From a STOP 0x0058 FTDISK_INTERNAL_ERROR http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=128630 How to Recover Mirroring Windows NT Using IDE Devices http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=141702 Master Boot Record Not Written to Mirrored Shadow Partition http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=117131 HTH, Yes, it does help. I built the mirrored drive by first using Acronis to clone the original disk to the new mirror disk. I then converted the original disk (Basic) to (Dynamic) as described earlier. So I'm sure the new secondary disk has an identical MBR to the original disk. The SC430 allows the user to turn SATA drives off/on. I need to test this but I think turning off the first disk in the BIOS would result in a bootable second drive. It would also be trivial to move the SATA cable from the SATA port zero to port one effectively swapping the drives. I've got another one of these 430s coming in shortly and I'll be able to test all of this. I've decided that since I have several clients with the SC430 I should keep one in my office (they really are inexpensive) so that I can swap out the system quickly if it becomes necessary. -Alex -- Ben "I can't believe I remember this crap" Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Lotus Notes on Linux - something just froze over......
Wasn't IBM trying to convert to linux desktops? One of the holdbacks was a Notes Client. The wine solution didn't work well apparently.On 7/11/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 7/11/06, Jon maddog Hall < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> http://www.echannelline.com/usa/story.cfm?item=20932 Hooray! The world's worst UI is now available for Linux! ;-) -- Ben___gnhlug-discuss mailing listgnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: From a NY Times Bestseller
On 7/11/06, Christopher Chisholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fair enough! All of that makes sense to me. Do you think that becausethe processors are now Intel perhaps more hardware will become available and thus damage the positive points that you've mentioned? Or do youthink that they will continue to use very proprietary hardware overallto maintain the same benefits they've always had? Also, do you feel like cross-platform programming languages/APIs/etc could ever do as gooda job at providing developers with an easy to work with solution acrosshardware and operating systems?I think most vendors are trending towards more generic hardware. The main cost will be porting and certifying the drivers. Sun uses ATI graphics cards. Some of them the same as on PCs. Also FC cards, ethernet and SCSI. There are also some 3rd party drivers for OpenSolaris for certain ethernet cards that are not supported by Sun. These are much cheaper but I'm not sure I'd run them in production. Of course, 90% of the Linux drivers are 3rd party :-) I remember spending $1500 for an Adapted AHA-1742 EISA SCSI card for a NetApp 1400. The card was selling for $100-$200 at the time, but we needed the certified card that NetApp would provide support for. I saved that card from the scrap heap when we upgraded to PCI based NetApps. They might have some hooks in thier stuff. Apple and Sun USB keyboards have extra keys. One for power on/off, alt-meta-apple-splat, cut-copy-paste-stop, sound etc.Other keyboards may work stock or require a setting in firmware. It's really not much different from Linux drivers for hardware. Someone just needs to figure out the driver. If it's not OSS, the cost depends on how many will get sold vs the effort vs how much they can get away with.
3KID, is this a new operating system?
I was dropping my daughter off at Camp Invention this morning and saw a minivan with a license plate of 3KID-OS. I must be slacking off in the geek department as I've never heard of this OS before. ;-) Larry ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 09:43 -0400, Larry Cook wrote: > I was dropping my daughter off at Camp Invention this morning and saw a > minivan with a license plate of 3KID-OS. > > I must be slacking off in the geek department as I've never heard of > this OS before. ;-) The sad thing is that it took me a couple readings and a minute or two in order to figure what what else this could *possibly* mean. 8) Completely off topic, except for the fact that it is geekily fun... Try this out: http://n.nfshost.com/ How far can you make it? -- Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On 7/12/06, Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try this out: http://n.nfshost.com/ How far can you make it? Cute. But, I admit to being stumped for what the URL for 8 (decimal) should be. 7 (decimal) is encoded as an ASCII representation of binary. Thus: http://n.nfshost.com/111.html That yields a page with "sept", which is a numeric prefix for 7. I figured that would mean eight would be encoded as "oct", "octo", or "octa", but none of those work. I tried all sorts of other things (variations and semi-random guesses), but got nowhere. What am I missing? I tried: oct octo octa 1000 10 octal Oct OCT 8 eight OO VIII sept oct- octa- octo- help about eat_flaming_death But none of those worked. Now I'm not going to get anything done today. This is going to drive me crazy. It's all your fault! Crazy I tell ya! Crazy? I was crazy once. I lit things on fire. Fire? I hate fire. It drives me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once... -- Ben "CRAZY!!!" Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Preseeding Debian (again)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > -- Original message -- > From: Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> > Has anyone else used a preseed file with Etch and successfully not >> > installed any tasks? It worked on Sarge. >> >> Can you explain a little more about what exactly it is you're trying >> to accomplish? Are you trying to build an installer for internal >> machines so that things install quickly in a similar manner, or are >> you trying to build a customized installer for a Debian-based product ? >> Or something else entirely? > > Yes :-) > > I'm creating a Debian installer that installs the very bare minimum > Debian system as well as a ton of packages that we have created and > all of their dependancies, which are very specific in the > versions. It will be used for a few different things: I'd look into FAI and FAI-CD. Much better, much more flexible, much more dynamic, and no mucking around with seeding/pre-seeding, whatever. Of course, FAI comes with it's own list of, ahm, idiotsyncrasies shall we say :) But overall, I think FAI is a huge win for this type of thing. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
French! ***On Wed 11:11a Jul 12, 2006 Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote*** On 7/12/06, Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try this out: http://n.nfshost.com/ How far can you make it? Cute. But, I admit to being stumped for what the URL for 8 (decimal) should be. 7 (decimal) is encoded as an ASCII representation of binary. Thus: http://n.nfshost.com/111.html That yields a page with "sept", which is a numeric prefix for 7. I figured that would mean eight would be encoded as "oct", "octo", or "octa", but none of those work. I tried all sorts of other things (variations and semi-random guesses), but got nowhere. What am I missing? I tried: oct octo octa 1000 10 octal Oct OCT 8 eight OO VIII sept oct- octa- octo- help about eat_flaming_death But none of those worked. Now I'm not going to get anything done today. This is going to drive me crazy. It's all your fault! Crazy I tell ya! Crazy? I was crazy once. I lit things on fire. Fire? I hate fire. It drives me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once... -- Ben "CRAZY!!!" Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
OT: pointless number game (WAS: Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?)
same here. 8 is a mystery. I tried 10n (i think that's correct octal notation), still nothing. lets DOS the server in vengeance >:-) -chris c Ben Scott wrote: On 7/12/06, Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try this out: http://n.nfshost.com/ How far can you make it? Cute. But, I admit to being stumped for what the URL for 8 (decimal) should be. 7 (decimal) is encoded as an ASCII representation of binary. Thus: http://n.nfshost.com/111.html That yields a page with "sept", which is a numeric prefix for 7. I figured that would mean eight would be encoded as "oct", "octo", or "octa", but none of those work. I tried all sorts of other things (variations and semi-random guesses), but got nowhere. What am I missing? I tried: oct octo octa 1000 10 octal Oct OCT 8 eight OO VIII sept oct- octa- octo- help about eat_flaming_death But none of those worked. Now I'm not going to get anything done today. This is going to drive me crazy. It's all your fault! Crazy I tell ya! Crazy? I was crazy once. I lit things on fire. Fire? I hate fire. It drives me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once... -- Ben "CRAZY!!!" Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: From a NY Times Bestseller
Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I guess what I'm really wondering, are modern Macs just PCs with fancy >> cases? They're PCs with fancy cases, running a fairly decent OS that's more or less guaranteed to work properly with the hardware it's running on. Asking this question isn't much different than asking the same thing about Sun these days. There's a lot to be said for proprietary hardware, though these days, that seems to morphing into "tightly controlled and specified" hardware. In other words, the vendor is essentially specifying in a highly regimented manner exactly what hardware will and won't work, and only allowing you to purchase things which they are willing to support. For this, you pay a slightly higher premium, and they save on stupid support calls. I like the Mac for it's hardware quality. I use it more as UNIX/Linux system than I do as a Mac however. I run X windows and FVWM in such a way that looking at my Mac is almost exactly like looking at my Linux systems either at work or home (or a Solaris system with my environment for that matter). I occassionally use the Mac software, iTunes, and Firefox mostly. But in general, it's a UNIX system with a shiny outer shell that has by far, the best "resume-from-suspend" of any laptop I've ever used. And the hardware has taken far more of a beating than I could ever reasonably expect a non-battle hardened PC-based laptop to take :) > (Of course, the reasons why I'm probably going to pay the $200 Black Tax > to get the black macbook when I buy a new computer are harder to > quantify. They're more along the lines of "SHINY".) It's probably the same justification I paid the U2 iPod tax when it first came out :) -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: How to achieve single htpasswd login with Apache when using both SSL and non-SSL web pages in a site?
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 7/11/06, Dan Coutu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Apparently the shift to/from SSL is considered by browsers to be a >> different realm. > > Makes sense from a security perspective. Think about starting with > SSL and then downgrading to cleartext. Suddenly your HTTP > authentication credentials aren't secure anymore... > >> Guess I'm stuck then. I know of no way to convince a web browser to >> change this particular behavior. > > From what I've seen in use, I think you might be able to work around > this with HTTP cookies, and/or encoding some kind of session state in > the URL and/or a form submission. But I've never done it, myself. Well, another possibility is to separate the directory configuration from the site configuration. Don't require authentication or SSL for anything in the root directory, but do for other stuff. By splitting out your directory configs from the VirtualHost config, I'd think all this would work fairly as you'd expect it... -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But none of those worked. > > Now I'm not going to get anything done today. > > This is going to drive me crazy. > > It's all your fault! > > Crazy I tell ya! > > Crazy? I was crazy once. I lit things on fire. Fire? I hate > fire. It drives me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once... > > -- Ben "CRAZY!!!" Scott I think I'm just stupid... I can't seem to figure out 4 :( -- Seeya, Paul (who really isn't interested enough to spend all day on pointless things) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 13:17 -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: > I think I'm just stupid... I can't seem to figure out 4 :( It's case sensitive, if that helps. -- Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
you probably have... just remember it's case-sensitive Paul Lussier wrote: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: But none of those worked. Now I'm not going to get anything done today. This is going to drive me crazy. It's all your fault! Crazy I tell ya! Crazy? I was crazy once. I lit things on fire. Fire? I hate fire. It drives me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once... -- Ben "CRAZY!!!" Scott I think I'm just stupid... I can't seem to figure out 4 :( ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 11:36:10AM -0400, Gregory Smith wrote: > French! yep :-) (got it before I saw this tho) mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
***On Wed 1:33p Jul 12 Mark E. Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote*** >On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 11:36:10AM -0400, Gregory Smith wrote: >> French! > >yep :-) > >(got it before I saw this tho) > >mm But it was more more fun to find via google->imbd->some french movie with sept in the title. OK, smarty, how do I get to "14" then? (please, please, please) Greg
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On 7/12/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cute. But, I admit to being stumped for what the URL for 8 (decimal) should be. Y'all can stop emailing me the answer for 8 now. :-) The sad part is, I took and passed two years of French in High School. Not that I remember any of it... -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
> > But it was more more fun to find via google->imbd->some french movie with > sept in the title. funny, I had a more serendipitous connection (I had actually been using the word just yesterday) > OK, smarty, how do I get to "14" then? (please, please, please) That's the one I am sitting on now. The 13 one has an interesting property, but I'm not sure it's relevant. there's also something about the 12, 13 sequence that might mean something. more time-wastage will undoubtedly tell ;-) mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
Gregory Smith wrote: > But it was more more fun to find via google->imbd->some french movie with > sept in the title. > > OK, smarty, how do I get to "14" then? (please, please, please) > Think cooking. -Mark ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
Mark Komarinski wrote: > Gregory Smith wrote: > >> But it was more more fun to find via google->imbd->some french movie with >> sept in the title. >> >> OK, smarty, how do I get to "14" then? (please, please, please) >> >> > Think cooking. > Oops. Brain fart. Wrong number. This is what I get trying to compile perl modules, tomcat webapps, and work on this thing at the same time. I don't know how to get to 14. -Mark ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is "guilty by association" but I haven't expressed that in a form that works, so it's probably wrong. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
i'm thinking maybe a date, like valentine's day, or something. my reasoning is that the most well known unlucky 13th thing is a friday. -chris Drew Van Zandt wrote: I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is "guilty by association" but I haven't expressed that in a form that works, so it's probably wrong. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:27:05PM -0400, Drew Van Zandt wrote: > I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is > > "guilty by association" I kept thinking that, too. > but I haven't expressed that in a form that works, so it's probably wrong. ditto. still, it seems that the "..." is what has to be filled in, so that seems like a good answer even if it's the wrong one :) My other observation was that the number of non-blank characters in the 13 screen was 13. Probably just a coincidence. mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
>> I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is >> >> "guilty by association" >I kept thinking that, too. OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not very well known (to me) Greg
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
Gregory Smith wrote: >OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not very well >known (to me) > > What number was that again? I'm still stuck on 14... I'm thinking I got the syntax wrong, but I've tried all the varients I could for: 14, Valentines Day ... (from Bingo) 14, not unlucky ... (Not 13 any more) 14, lucky lucky ... (twice 7) ...and I really can't think of much else... Tried the above with various capitalisations, with and without spaces, the comma, and elipses. GRRR! Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 03:16:55PM -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: > Gregory Smith wrote: > > >OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not very well > >known (to me) > > > > > > What number was that again? > > I'm still stuck on 14... > > I'm thinking I got the syntax wrong, but I've tried all the varients I > could for: > > 14, Valentines Day ... (from Bingo) > 14, not unlucky ... (Not 13 any more) > 14, lucky lucky ... (twice 7) > > ...and I really can't think of much else... Tried the above with > various capitalisations, with and without spaces, the comma, and elipses. Somebody at work gave me the answer for 14. However, it was something that I considered about a hundred times, but rejected because it completes the phrase for 13, NOT a phrase for 14. Since it isn't looking for something about the next number, I consider that a busted entry in the quiz. so now it's a lot less interesting. but I might continue anyway :) mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Linux in the Nashua Telegraph
I just came across this. Good publicity, captures the spirit (and drawbacks) well. I'm involved a little - teaching "Bash 101" and Python. David Brooks "gets" Free software. He even mentions our own "Linux guru Jon 'maddog' Hall of Amherst". Calls him "typical"... :) -Bill Forget the apple; surprise teacher with open-source software http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060628/COLUMNISTS03/106280090/-1/opinion Few things are quite so technically cutting edge as open-source software, which is why you expect to see it used by really cutting-edge folks. Like . . . kindergarten teachers? "I'm discovering the switchover isn't as horrible as I feared it would be," said Kim Stinson, one of three primary-level teachers from the Orono, Maine, public school system. - - - "On my budget, I wasn't about to get Photoshop licenses for every kid," said Russ Wiesenauer, a computer teacher at Jaffrey-Rindge Middle School. So he downloaded Gimp, a free, open-source graphics program that's less powerful than Photoshop but powerful enough for him, and helped an art teacher use it for a digital-photo class. "That was one of the most satisfying teaching experiences I've ever been part of," he said. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On 7/12/06, Mark E. Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 03:16:55PM -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: > Gregory Smith wrote: > > >OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not very well known (to me) > > > > > > What number was that again? > > I'm still stuck on 14... > > I'm thinking I got the syntax wrong, but I've tried all the varients I > could for: > > 14, Valentines Day ... (from Bingo) > 14, not unlucky ... (Not 13 any more) > 14, lucky lucky ... (twice 7) > > ...and I really can't think of much else... Tried the above with > various capitalisations, with and without spaces, the comma, and elipses. Somebody at work gave me the answer for 14. However, it was something that I considered about a hundred times, but rejected because it completes the phrase for 13, NOT a phrase for 14. Since it isn't looking for something about the next number, I consider that a busted entry in the quiz. so now it's a lot less interesting. but I might continue anyway :) mm Anyone else get to 20? I'm guessing that's the end. Fun game though. -Mike- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 05:04:30PM -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > > Anyone else get to 20? I'm guessing that's the end. 20 is not the end :-) mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 17:04 -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > Anyone else get to 20? I'm guessing that's the end. > > Fun game though. Actually, the fun/torture doesn't end until 30. 8) -- Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
Ok, I give up, what's the answer for 14? :) - Chris On Jul 12, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Mark E. Mallett wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 03:16:55PM -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: Gregory Smith wrote: OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not very well known (to me) What number was that again? I'm still stuck on 14... I'm thinking I got the syntax wrong, but I've tried all the varients I could for: 14, Valentines Day ... (from Bingo) 14, not unlucky ... (Not 13 any more) 14, lucky lucky ... (twice 7) ...and I really can't think of much else... Tried the above with various capitalisations, with and without spaces, the comma, and elipses. Somebody at work gave me the answer for 14. However, it was something that I considered about a hundred times, but rejected because it completes the phrase for 13, NOT a phrase for 14. Since it isn't looking for something about the next number, I consider that a busted entry in the quiz. so now it's a lot less interesting. but I might continue anyway :) mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 05:18:45PM -0400, mike ledoux wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:59:30PM -0400, Gregory Smith wrote: > > >> I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is > > >> > > >> "guilty by association" > > > > >I kept thinking that, too. > > > > OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not > > very well known (to me) > > Hrm. In my attempts to get to 14, I find myself at a page > containing only: > > 196 > > I can't seem to figure out how that represents 14, so I > think I may have accidentally skipped ahead. > That's the right page. -Mark signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 05:18:45PM -0400, mike ledoux wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:59:30PM -0400, Gregory Smith wrote: > > >> I'm stuck there too... the only thing that comes to mind is > > >> > > >> "guilty by association" > > > > >I kept thinking that, too. > > > > OK, I got it, y'all are close, but it's a different phrase, not > > very well known (to me) > > Hrm. In my attempts to get to 14, I find myself at a page > containing only: > > 196 > > I can't seem to figure out how that represents 14, so I > think I may have accidentally skipped ahead. apply your mental powers. (that's a hint, but email me if you want the answer and somebody hasn't sent it already) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3KID, is this a new operating system?
On 7/12/06, Chris Linstid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I give up, what's the answer for 14? :) The answer for the URL for 14 (which also completes the quote on the page for 13, as mem noted) is actually present in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_%28number%29 Irritatingly, I at first dismissed it as too unlikely. I should have known better, after eight! :-) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: 3 kid-os
It means with 3 children. Kid-os is slang for kids ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss