Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
On 23 May 2007 16:57:32 -0400, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.learner.org/resources/series42.html > > Hmm...the last time I tried that site, my computer didn't really deal > with those videos very well, but now it seems to be almost at the > point of playing them. FWIW, I'm watching the first episode right now, and it seems to work. This is on Fedora Core 6 with mplayer (which can use the DLLs from the Windows world (assuming you're on i386)). The typical third-party repositories are in use. kernel-2.6.20-1.2944.fc6 glibc-2.5-10.fc6 mplayer-1.0-58_r21812.fc6.at mplayerplug-in-3.40-31.fc6.at Firefox 2.0.0.2 (tgz binary distribution) Also FWIW, so far, it seems like a neat show. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
MonadLUG notes, 10-May-2007, dd and Seth Cohn, Drupal
Ten attendees made it to the May meeting of the Monadnock Valley Linux User Group, held as usual on the second Thursday of the month at the School Administrative Unit #1 offices, Hancock Road, Peterborough. Bill Freeman presented his thoughts on the Man Page of the Month: dd. Bill provided two pages of notes. Quite the discussion followed obscure and useful things dd could do, such as preserve floppy drive images for posterity, copy music CDs to images for subsequent loopback mount and playing, copy and restore bootblock records and of course read and write tapes. Seth Cohn was the featured speaker of the night and spoke on Drupal, the content management system. Seth has screenshots of a surprising number and variety of sites that are running on Drupal, presented a bit of Drupal history - seems it's been around for a long time, and had a fairly stable history - and its current state, with fairly large and active communities of developers and implementors. He covered a bit of the architecture and philosophy of the modular design of Drupal and did the fairly painless install and initial configuration. 9 PM came too soon as there was lots more to see. Thanks to Seth for presentation, to Bill for MPoM, to Charlie for organizing the meeting and to all for attending and participating. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MythTV is listed! I wonder if this means in some strange way, PS3's > > will now be able to out of the box use MythTV boxes?? > I forgot to add, I also found: > http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/about/dlna_white_paper_2006.pdf > Perhaps uPnP AV is only 'part' of the solution, and HTTP video > streaming is the other half, which I don't believe MythTV has > currently. Hrm, and yet again, MythTV comes to the rescue (?). http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ Now we'll just need to figure out the glue. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MythTV is listed! I wonder if this means in some strange way, PS3's > will now be able to out of the box use MythTV boxes?? I forgot to add, I also found: http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/about/dlna_white_paper_2006.pdf Perhaps uPnP AV is only 'part' of the solution, and HTTP video streaming is the other half, which I don't believe MythTV has currently. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/23/07, Chip Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 23, 2007, Ben Scott sent me the following: > > > I searched for "DLNA", and Google suggested I might mean "DLNA" > > > (Digital Living Network Alliance) instead. A quick Google for "PS3 > > > DLNA" seemed to indicate Google was right. > > > Note that I have no idea what any of this is; just reporting what > > > Google tells me. > > Looks like you have to pay to view the official guidelines. Their > > webserver is extremely slow at the moment, but the details are available > > from http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/guidelines/ > > I managed to download the guideline order form, which lets you order a > > copy of the guidelines for internal evaluation purposes only for the low > > low price of $500. Apparently you have to the join the DLNA to actually > > sell a product that follows the guidelines. I actually found a bit of information after translating what their certification was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play#UPnP_AV_.28Audio_and_Video.29_standards And in the same document: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play#UPnP_AV_MediaServers MythTV is listed! I wonder if this means in some strange way, PS3's will now be able to out of the box use MythTV boxes?? -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
Michael ODonnell writes: > Hey! I love The Mechanical Universe, with the prof standing > at the front of the class and mixing his dry (nerdy?) wit into > the material as he lectures, and all those early animations by > James Blinn - now *that's* entertainment. I think it's here: > > http://www.learner.org/resources/series42.html Hmm...the last time I tried that site, my computer didn't really deal with those videos very well, but now it seems to be almost at the point of playing them. I'll have to try more tonight. Thanks for reminding me about this site, and I am very glad to have found another Mechanical Universe fan! Kind Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E God, I loved that Pontiac. alumni.unh.edu!kdc -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any idea exactly what this means directly? Is there a way for say, > > a MythTV box to be 'DNLA enabled'? Data on the net points to it being > > some sort of UPnP device which supports HTTP streaming of content. > > DNLA and Linux searches lead to much talk, but little technical info. > > :-( > I searched for "DLNA", and Google suggested I might mean "DLNA" > (Digital Living Network Alliance) instead. A quick Google for "PS3 > DLNA" seemed to indicate Google was right. > Note that I have no idea what any of this is; just reporting what > Google tells me. Yep, I got that far as well, but I wasn't able to find anything saying, 'To make your MythTV box DNLA compliant, you need to.', or 'To share media files using Apache and VideoLAN in a DNLA compliant way, you need to.' -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Chip Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 23, 2007, Ben Scott sent me the following: > > I searched for "DLNA", and Google suggested I might mean "DLNA" > > (Digital Living Network Alliance) instead. A quick Google for "PS3 > > DLNA" seemed to indicate Google was right. > > Note that I have no idea what any of this is; just reporting what > > Google tells me. > Looks like you have to pay to view the official guidelines. Their > webserver is extremely slow at the moment, but the details are available > from http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/guidelines/ > > I managed to download the guideline order form, which lets you order a > copy of the guidelines for internal evaluation purposes only for the low > low price of $500. Apparently you have to the join the DLNA to actually > sell a product that follows the guidelines. And I'm assuming based on the total lack of information available on the internet on the specifics, sign an NDA saying you won't talk about it. :-( -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On May 23, 2007, Ben Scott sent me the following: > I searched for "DLNA", and Google suggested I might mean "DLNA" > (Digital Living Network Alliance) instead. A quick Google for "PS3 > DLNA" seemed to indicate Google was right. > > Note that I have no idea what any of this is; just reporting what > Google tells me. Looks like you have to pay to view the official guidelines. Their webserver is extremely slow at the moment, but the details are available from http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/guidelines/ I managed to download the guideline order form, which lets you order a copy of the guidelines for internal evaluation purposes only for the low low price of $500. Apparently you have to the join the DLNA to actually sell a product that follows the guidelines. -- Chip Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://kyzoku.2bithacker.net/ GCM/IT d+(-) s+:++ a25>? C++ UB$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ R@ tv@ b++@ DI D+(-) G++ e>++ h>++ r-- y? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
On 5/23/07, Flaherty, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asked my buddy that works for RedHat. Cheaper licensing, 2 year life > cycle desktop os. Sounds like another Linux distribution I once used... I think it was called "Red Hat Linux" or something like that... ;-) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:07:34 G.O. wrote: > On 5/23/07, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone got a clue what Red Hat is promoting with the "Global > > Desktop?" > > > > Just when I thought we were going to see Fedora Core/Extras united, a > > clear unified enterprise message out of Red Hat, they zig again. > > No ziggin'. Core/Extras merge has happened, there won't be Fedora > Core 7, there will be Fedora 7. See: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CoreExtrasMerge > > About the Global Desktop, the link Patrick sent sums it up. I'm not intimately familiar with the project just yet and none of this is me speaking with my official Red Hat on, but I'm pretty sure at least one of the guesses in that article is wrong. It surmises that RHGD will initially be based on the 2.6.18 RHEL5 kernel. Not likely. The article already mentions the reason why: KVM, which debuted in kernel 2.6.20, is a focal point of this product. KVM isn't in the RHEL5 kernel. Granted, we *could* backport it, but I'd lean toward RHGD starting out with a more Fedora-like kernel (i.e., 2.6.21 or later). Oh, and pretty sure the desktop is going to be Gnome -- but also quite possible it'll be a newer Gnome than RHEL5 (i.e., 2.18 or later). -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNLA streaming?
On 5/23/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea exactly what this means directly? Is there a way for say, > a MythTV box to be 'DNLA enabled'? Data on the net points to it being > some sort of UPnP device which supports HTTP streaming of content. > DNLA and Linux searches lead to much talk, but little technical info. > :-( I searched for "DLNA", and Google suggested I might mean "DLNA" (Digital Living Network Alliance) instead. A quick Google for "PS3 DLNA" seemed to indicate Google was right. Note that I have no idea what any of this is; just reporting what Google tells me. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
> For a while now I have been interested in re-watching a show > that used to be on PBS when I was...younger. It was called "The > Mechanical Universe". It was a physics show that used a lot > of computer graphics to illustrate the mathematical principles > behind physics. Hey! I love The Mechanical Universe, with the prof standing at the front of the class and mixing his dry (nerdy?) wit into the material as he lectures, and all those early animations by James Blinn - now *that's* entertainment. I think it's here: http://www.learner.org/resources/series42.html ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
Paul Lussier writes: > http://www.smartflix.com For a while now I have been interested in re-watching a show that used to be on PBS when I was...younger. It was called "The Mechanical Universe". It was a physics show that used a lot of computer graphics to illustrate the mathematical principles behind physics. I've done a little bit of research, and the series costs ~$500 on DVD. A little more than I want to spend I've already put a request in at NetFlix for them to acquire this set. I am pretty confident that NetFlix has promply ignored my strange request. SmartFlix doesn't seem to have this set either. If anybody on this list happens to know where I could access this set, I'd appreciate any pointers. Of course, my ulterior motive for sending this mail is to convince other people to request that $dvd_providers acquire this set so that I can watch it too... Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E God, I loved that Pontiac. alumni.unh.edu!kdc -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
DNLA streaming?
After looking at the up and coming 1.8 firmware for the PS3, they will now allow users to stream media via 'DNLA' enabled devices. Any idea exactly what this means directly? Is there a way for say, a MythTV box to be 'DNLA enabled'? Data on the net points to it being some sort of UPnP device which supports HTTP streaming of content. DNLA and Linux searches lead to much talk, but little technical info. :-( -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
On 5/23/07, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone got a clue what Red Hat is promoting with the "Global Desktop?" > > Just when I thought we were going to see Fedora Core/Extras united, a > clear unified enterprise message out of Red Hat, they zig again. > No ziggin'. Core/Extras merge has happened, there won't be Fedora Core 7, there will be Fedora 7. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CoreExtrasMerge About the Global Desktop, the link Patrick sent sums it up. Thanks, Gurhan > "Today Red Hat is announcing the upcoming availability of Red Hat Global > Desktop. Global Desktop breaks through the price and performance > barriers that have prevented many people from realizing the full > benefits of state-of-the-art information technology. Red Hat and > community members around the world recognized the need for a better > solution to serve their local government and small business customers. > This required removing the limitations that traditional desktop > solutions imposed. In response, Red Hat developed the Global Desktop, > which delivers a modern-user experience with an enterprise-class suite > of productivity applications. Red Hat collaborated closely with Intel to > enable the design, support and distribution of Global Desktop to be as > close as possible to the customer. In addition, Red Hat and Intel are > taking advantage of Global Desktop's high performance and minimal > hardware requirements to support a wide range of Intel's current and > future desktop platforms, including the Classmate, Affordable, Community > and Low-Cost PC lines." > > http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/global_desktop.html > > and > > http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/14/red-hat-global-desktop/ > > -- > Ted Roche > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC > http://www.tedroche.com > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Liberation Fonts?
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 11:35 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > Is that like "Freedom Fries?" > > Anyone tried this? > > https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ They are pretty nice. I've installed them on my Ubuntu/Feisty laptop by just unpacking them into ~/.fonts and running fc-cache. Rebooting would have worked too. -marc -- Marc Nozell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://nozell.com/blog signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
RE: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
oh yeah, and he pointed me towards http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8809240318.html -Original Message- From: Flaherty, Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:15 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: RE: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters! I asked my buddy that works for RedHat. Cheaper licensing, 2 year life cycle desktop os. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:43 AM To: Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters! Has anyone got a clue what Red Hat is promoting with the "Global Desktop?" Just when I thought we were going to see Fedora Core/Extras united, a clear unified enterprise message out of Red Hat, they zig again. "Today Red Hat is announcing the upcoming availability of Red Hat Global Desktop. Global Desktop breaks through the price and performance barriers that have prevented many people from realizing the full benefits of state-of-the-art information technology. Red Hat and community members around the world recognized the need for a better solution to serve their local government and small business customers. This required removing the limitations that traditional desktop solutions imposed. In response, Red Hat developed the Global Desktop, which delivers a modern-user experience with an enterprise-class suite of productivity applications. Red Hat collaborated closely with Intel to enable the design, support and distribution of Global Desktop to be as close as possible to the customer. In addition, Red Hat and Intel are taking advantage of Global Desktop's high performance and minimal hardware requirements to support a wide range of Intel's current and future desktop platforms, including the Classmate, Affordable, Community and Low-Cost PC lines." http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/global_desktop.html and http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/14/red-hat-global-desktop/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
RE: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
I asked my buddy that works for RedHat. Cheaper licensing, 2 year life cycle desktop os. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:43 AM To: Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters! Has anyone got a clue what Red Hat is promoting with the "Global Desktop?" Just when I thought we were going to see Fedora Core/Extras united, a clear unified enterprise message out of Red Hat, they zig again. "Today Red Hat is announcing the upcoming availability of Red Hat Global Desktop. Global Desktop breaks through the price and performance barriers that have prevented many people from realizing the full benefits of state-of-the-art information technology. Red Hat and community members around the world recognized the need for a better solution to serve their local government and small business customers. This required removing the limitations that traditional desktop solutions imposed. In response, Red Hat developed the Global Desktop, which delivers a modern-user experience with an enterprise-class suite of productivity applications. Red Hat collaborated closely with Intel to enable the design, support and distribution of Global Desktop to be as close as possible to the customer. In addition, Red Hat and Intel are taking advantage of Global Desktop's high performance and minimal hardware requirements to support a wide range of Intel's current and future desktop platforms, including the Classmate, Affordable, Community and Low-Cost PC lines." http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/global_desktop.html and http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/14/red-hat-global-desktop/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:00, Thomas Charron wrote: > On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it > > back into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. > > Statement of fact, instead of opinion apperently. :-P Sorry, I should have said "waste of my time", which would still be an opinion because I cannot think of a repeatable scientific experiment that could unambiguously confirm such a thing. The last thing I would advise is that others adopt my opinions and habits. Society as we know it would collapse. (That opinion is more verifiable.) However, you are welcome to use my opinions as a guide to attitudes which should be avoided. >> The > > information content is aimed at a rather dull 10-year old. > > Perhaps the PBS specials from 20 years ago, but the National > Geographic channel, Discovery Science, this is hardly the case. You may be right; I certainly have no recent experience. If so, that is a good trend. > > Being able to watch a two hour special with Steven Hawking on the > history of how he came about his theories of the universe I find > extremely entertaining, and at least in my house, leads to many the > dish washing conversation on the possibilities in the universe. We often have such conversations based on the books we have recently read. What ever fits your style is fine. I have no objection as long as people use and stimulate their intellect - even fiddling with computer games is OK - to a point. Jim Kuzdrall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Hey, How 'bout them Red-Hatters!
Has anyone got a clue what Red Hat is promoting with the "Global Desktop?" Just when I thought we were going to see Fedora Core/Extras united, a clear unified enterprise message out of Red Hat, they zig again. "Today Red Hat is announcing the upcoming availability of Red Hat Global Desktop. Global Desktop breaks through the price and performance barriers that have prevented many people from realizing the full benefits of state-of-the-art information technology. Red Hat and community members around the world recognized the need for a better solution to serve their local government and small business customers. This required removing the limitations that traditional desktop solutions imposed. In response, Red Hat developed the Global Desktop, which delivers a modern-user experience with an enterprise-class suite of productivity applications. Red Hat collaborated closely with Intel to enable the design, support and distribution of Global Desktop to be as close as possible to the customer. In addition, Red Hat and Intel are taking advantage of Global Desktop's high performance and minimal hardware requirements to support a wide range of Intel's current and future desktop platforms, including the Classmate, Affordable, Community and Low-Cost PC lines." http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/global_desktop.html and http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/14/red-hat-global-desktop/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Liberation Fonts?
Is that like "Freedom Fries?" Anyone tried this? https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Request: Take Off-Topic Off-List
Could we have some on-topic discussions on the list, please? General tech is fine, too. The state of NH as a place for Linux to flourish. Enough scatalogical and explosives for a while, please. -- Ted "Not the Mail Nazi, just play one on the list" Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On Tuesday, May 22nd 2007 at 14:53 -0400, quoth Thomas Charron: =>On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> > You where dumb enough to WATCH it? :-) I thought you said =>> > you vote with your wallet... =>> I used to be proud to say that I had never seen an episode of =>> "American Idol" or "Survivor", but Am Idol was on a TV in a bar I was =>> in once, and so I caught a few accidental glimpses of it. My =>> therapist says I may eventually recover. ;-) => => He ALSO said not to take too much of those blue pills. And look =>where THAT led The blue pills aren't the problem. It's the powder: A man, getting on in years, finds that he is unable to perform in the bedroom. He goes to his doctor who tries a few things, but nothing seems to work. Finally, as a last resort, the doctor refers him to an African medicine man. The medicine man says, "I can cure this." With that said, he throws a white powder into a flame, and there is a flash with billowing blue smoke. Then the African medicine man says, "This is powerful healing but you can only use it once a year. All you have to do is say '123,' and it shall rise for as long as you wish!" The man then asks, "What happens when it's over, and I don't want to continue? The medicine man replies, "When your partner can take no more and is completely exhausted, all she has to say is '1234', and it will then go down. But be warned, it will not rise again for another whole year." The old gent rushes home, anxious to try out his new powers. That night he showers, shaves and smothers himself in aftershave. He slides into bed, cuddles up to his wife, and says "123" and he feels a sudden movement in his trouser department, just as the medicine man promised. His wife turns over and asks, "What did you say '123' for?" -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives
On 5/23/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how > to make a mine better or worse than sending a URL on where to get > torrent files? Accidentally blowing oneself up is not considered illegal, and, in your case Travis, could actually be seen as a public service. -- Ben -- DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed in the above are the personal opinions of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views or policy of GNHLUG, or any other person or organization. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that I am against the populous having their thoughts and desires centrally controlled. (As Marx would say, "The opiate of the people.") With out this consumption-driving device, our consumer society would collapse, devastating my stock market investments. In "Calvin and Hobbes" comic strip a TV says ".. Marx hadn't seen anything yet" in reponse to "Religion is the opiate of the masses" http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/political-economy-of-calvin-and-hobbes-4.html ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives
On 5/23/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OMG, Ben! > > http://smartflix.com/store/video/300/How-To-Construct-Mines > > How to blow yourself up in one simply instructional video! :-) > Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how > to make a mine better or worse than sending a URL on where to get > torrent files? Right up their with if there is scientific evidence that everybodies bungholes generally do stink. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives
> > OMG, Ben! > > http://smartflix.com/store/video/300/How-To-Construct-Mines > > How to blow yourself up in one simply instructional video! :-) Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how to make a mine better or worse than sending a URL on where to get torrent files? /me ducks ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it back > into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. Statement of fact, instead of opinion apperently. :-P >Try this some time. Record the sound of your favorite "educational" > TV program. Transcribe the audio track to text. The audio content of > a half hour program seldom fills a sheet of paper. >And the content is drivel. All the statement are qualitative: "This > beautiful tropical butterfly lives high in the forest canopy." Rather > than: "The beautiful Cambodia Flicker Back lives in mahogany trees at > heights between 20 and 50 meters." The information content is aimed at > a rather dull 10-year old. Perhaps the PBS specials from 20 years ago, but the National Geographic channel, Discovery Science, this is hardly the case. Being able to watch a two hour special with Steven Hawking on the history of how he came about his theories of the universe I find extremely entertaining, and at least in my house, leads to many the dish washing conversation on the possibilities in the universe. >Not that I am against the populous having their thoughts and desires > centrally controlled. (As Marx would say, "The opiate of the people.") > With out this consumption-driving device, our consumer society would > collapse, devastating my stock market investments. Down with the man, he's trying to control us! Hey, someone pass the bong... -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives
On 5/23/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Make sure you check availability, not just a hit for a show. > > Mythbusters, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Ask This Old House have a > > very poor showing on Netflix, though there are some hits. This Old > > House, New Yankee Workshop, and Good Eats aren't there at all. (nor > > is UCTV). > Oh, an along those lines, I stumbled upon SmartFlix the other day. > They bill themselves as the largest distributor of "HowTo" videos > around. They're based right here in Arlington, MA, and have quite a > decent collection of instructional videos. They appear to work the > same or similar to NetFlix, but with a very narrow specialization... > http://www.smartflix.com OMG, Ben! http://smartflix.com/store/video/300/How-To-Construct-Mines How to blow yourself up in one simply instructional video! :-) -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 18:49, Dan Jenkins wrote: > It's been well over a decade since I've watched television. Do get a > lot more reading done. I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it back into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. > Does cut down on "water cooler conversations" > though. Does mean I have to research modern pop cultural items to > understand common references; I actually had to look up "American > Idol" in Wikipedia to see what it was. :-) My wife and I noticed that you don't have to watch TV to "participate" in water cooler discussions. They all consist of repeating what was seen on TV - no more than that: "Did you see him when he opened that can of grapes! Man, grapes all over. He still had purple on his shirt when he left the house. Cool." So, you always get the "highlights", which will keep you right up to date. Later that day you can pop into the conversation with, "Did you see him open that can of grapes!", and someone will repeat the whole thing for you. And you have the warm fuzzy feeling of being accepted by the group. > Just had no time for TV > (or leisure, in general) for a few years, and lost interest. For me, > definitely not worth the cost in money nor time. Try this some time. Record the sound of your favorite "educational" TV program. Transcribe the audio track to text. The audio content of a half hour program seldom fills a sheet of paper. And the content is drivel. All the statement are qualitative: "This beautiful tropical butterfly lives high in the forest canopy." Rather than: "The beautiful Cambodia Flicker Back lives in mahogany trees at heights between 20 and 50 meters." The information content is aimed at a rather dull 10-year old. Not that I am against the populous having their thoughts and desires centrally controlled. (As Marx would say, "The opiate of the people.") With out this consumption-driving device, our consumer society would collapse, devastating my stock market investments. Jim Kuzdrall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
On 5/23/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How about a more EO (equal offense) quote: "Opinions are like > > assholes: Everybody has one, and they almost always stink!" > Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically > controlled 'snif test', but do you have any even anecdotal evidence > that there are any sphincters which do NOT have an undesirable odor > thereby supporting the 'always' portion of your above statement ? I dunno, I'm pretty sure if a stripper had a stanky bunghole, it'd be considered a negative trait for their job. :-P > (yes, I know it's a quote originating elsewhere, but I *really* wanted > to respond to an e-mail using the word 'sphincter' :) That's ok, I'm looking forward to searching google and getting a GNHLUG post in result to 'stripper sphincter'. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
> > Why not make the show downloadable for free but sell advertising and > put the commercials in the show. Sure, they can be ellided, but > seriously, who's going to bother? Yah, because writing a program to run the content through and auto- delete the commercials is so much harder than cracking CSS, or doing all the other things that have been done to get around copy protection? So who's going to bother? LOTS of people if I had to guess, and those people will make it easier and easier to do it. Getting DVDs to play in linux was a huge pain.. Now it can be done with no effort.. You're not suppose to be able to backup or copy DVDs, but now I can run Handbrake and have an avi of the main movie in an hour or so. If you make the commercial non-skippable I'm sure somebody will find a way to rip it from the web (or whatever software is required to watch it) convert it to a normal video format without commercials and tons of people will download it from torrent sights.. Just like now. People want stuff for free.. There's enough of these people to make getting around it worth it. Some people are cheap, some people think they're sticking it to "the man". ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make sure you check availability, not just a hit for a show. > Mythbusters, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Ask This Old House have a > very poor showing on Netflix, though there are some hits. This Old > House, New Yankee Workshop, and Good Eats aren't there at all. (nor > is UCTV). Oh, an along those lines, I stumbled upon SmartFlix the other day. They bill themselves as the largest distributor of "HowTo" videos around. They're based right here in Arlington, MA, and have quite a decent collection of instructional videos. They appear to work the same or similar to NetFlix, but with a very narrow specialization... http://www.smartflix.com -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But how can they allow you do watch it whenever you want, and >> disallow someone to distribute it for free without paying ANYTHING for >> it? > > I don't necessarily have the answers to their quandaries. I just > know that I'm not going to pay to not be able to watch something. > > One option for them is to just not worry about the copiers. Offer > people a reasonable product at a reasonable price, and ask them not to > screw you. Assume honest people will be honest, and assume thieves > will continue to be thieves. Putting restrictions on the content just > discourages honest people (like me) from giving them my money for > their product. At the same time, the thieves haven't really been > effected much. So it's a net loss for the content authors Or so the > theory goes. One lesson I've learned in my years of supporting users is that, if you want the user to perform a certain activity which you deem to be "The correct behavior", then you have a statistically greater chance of success if you make it easier to "do the right thing". If circumvention was more difficult than legally obtaining the content, then there wouldn't be a piracy problem. Why not make the show downloadable for free but sell advertising and put the commercials in the show. Sure, they can be ellided, but seriously, who's going to bother? And if you can go right to the same source for every episode and download an mpeg with commercials vs. searching bit-torrent for someone who has competantly elided them without removing any of the show, why not go with the commercials? They *could* make the commercials non-skippable like they do with that stupid FBI warning thing, but why bother? Then your just pissing people off again. Let people skip the commercials if they want to. A better tactic would be for advertisers to make commercials that people *want* to see. Think of Budweiser commercials during the Super Bowl, or the Honda Rube Goldberg commercial (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UScbWzhieNc). The big problem with most tv commercials is that they just plain suck. But yet, every year, a large percentage of people tune into the Super Bowl to *specifically* watch the commercials. That seems to indicate that there is, in fact, a market for *good* commercials. > One problem with the above scenario is that a significant part of > the media cartel are themselves in the business of screwing people. > They typify the worst sorts of greed. For them to turn around and > ask people be honest is a hard sell. As the saying goes, there is > no honor among thieves... That is a huge problem. And something we as consumers need to figure out how to fix. Though, other than Ben's idea of voting with your wallet, I'm not sure how to approach the problem. Currently I'm getting a reduced rate from Comcast on my cable bill (I just called up and asked for a cheaper rate, and they gave me a 50% discount for 6 months :) But when that ends, I'm very seriously considering dropping down to the absolute most minimum basic service (which costs $13/month) and increasing my NetFlix membership. I've never owned a TiVo, but I love the idea of time shifting. Unfortunately, I have neither the time, nor money to build the MythTV setup of my dreams :( -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
> > Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically > controlled 'snif test', but do you have any even anecdotal evidence > that there are any sphincters which do NOT have an undesirable odor > thereby supporting the 'always' portion of your above statement ? Go to PubMed (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/index.html) and do a search for "sphincter odor" pulls up 113 articles, so there's probably already a scientifically controlled study out there. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about a more EO (equal offense) quote: "Opinions are like > assholes: Everybody has one, and they almost always stink!" Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically controlled 'snif test', but do you have any even anecdotal evidence that there are any sphincters which do NOT have an undesirable odor thereby supporting the 'always' portion of your above statement ? (yes, I know it's a quote originating elsewhere, but I *really* wanted to respond to an e-mail using the word 'sphincter' :) -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: GONE, tower case, floppy, cd, P/S
Gone. Got an email from someone interested in it. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)
On 5/22/07, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ben Scott wrote: > Alternative #1: > > Stop watching TV. Radical idea, I know, not buying a product you don't like. :) > It's been well over a decade since I've watched television. Do get a lot more reading done. Does cut down on "water cooler conversations" though. Does mean I have to research modern pop cultural items to understand common references; I actually had to look up "American Idol" in Wikipedia to see what it was. :-) Just had no time for TV (or leisure, in general) for a few years, and lost interest. For me, definitely not worth the cost in money nor time. Those water cooler conversations are getting smaller. In the 70s, there were 3 main stations and everyone watched one of them. Now with hundreds of channels and time shifting DVRs, there's a good chance that you're the only one at work that watched a particular show. I go through that all the time with sports. I don't watch football, basketball, baseball or hockey. I watch MotoGP, Motocross, Tour de France and The Dakar Rally, Most people haven't heard about some of the races, let alone the competitors. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
