Re: [OT][HUMOR] A plague of funny acronyms

2007-11-20 Thread Greg Rundlett
COMCAST

Can't Ordinarily Manage Cable And Simple Telephone

Certain Oligarchs Media Czars And STooges
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LinkedIn group for GNHLUG

2007-11-20 Thread Ted Roche
LinkedIn has approved the group I set up for GNHLUG. If you're
interested in joining, you have to join LinkedIn first, then click on
this link:

http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/42315/32A73B64F8DC

Your group membership will need to be approved to keep out random bots,
so please drop me a line (there's contact info at the link above) if you
think I wouldn't recognize your name from the mailing lists, wiki/forums
or meetings. I'd be inclined to just ignore the requests for membership
from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

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Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: Why is sound so complicated?

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 11/20/2007 11:55 AM, Paul Lussier wrote:
 Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
   1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie?
 

 One. 

   
 Answer that, and you've answered your question as well.
 

 I don't see what my wife's apple pie recipe has to do with sound on Linux.

   
   2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. 
 

 And they're almost always wrong.

   
 And in turn, do it differently.
 

 And they're still almost always wrong.  Different != better.

   
I think you just proved the point :)

-Mark
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Re: Why is sound so complicated?

2007-11-20 Thread Thomas Charron
On Nov 20, 2007 11:55 AM, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie?
 One.

  I'm sorry, this was an essay question.  :-D

2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'.
 And they're almost always wrong.
  And in turn, do it differently.
 And they're still almost always wrong.  Different != better.

  *nod*  Choice isn't always a good thing.

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Re: Why is sound so complicated?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie?

One. 

 Answer that, and you've answered your question as well.

I don't see what my wife's apple pie recipe has to do with sound on Linux.

   2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. 

And they're almost always wrong.

 And in turn, do it differently.

And they're still almost always wrong.  Different != better.

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Seeya,
Paul
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SFD (continuing) -- Wadleigh Memorial Library, Milford

2007-11-20 Thread Bill Sconce
(see footnote [2a] if nothing else...   doh!  :)

As many of you know, the GNHLUG Software Freedom Day Team has continued
our effort of outreach beyond the Day -- first at the Pepperell Library
(October 18th) and now (last night, November 19th) at the Wadleigh
Memorial Library in Milford.  I'm happy to report that at each event we
have had an enthusiastic and informed reaction, and that at each event
we have learned better how to structure things.[1]

Report: we had four people sign up, with a variety of backgrounds.
One was a real estate agent, already quite enthused about free software,
since it appears that his practice depends on Mambo/LAMP/et al. for
listings.  Another was there because he was interested in financials,
and spreadsheets and word processing.  Everyone was surprised that
so much free software is available for Microsoft PCs.  (Our centerpiece
was and continues to be the OpenDisc, formerly the OpenCD.)

We're learning... to be specific.  Next time we'll move more quickly
to letting people install and try out software, and put the philosophical
stuff more into a background topic.  What really worked last night
was having set up a Microsoft PC, and letting the attendees do the
actual work.  Everyone left with a copy of the OpendDisc CDROM.  And
business cards, for us and for GNHLUG.

The library was very, very interested and hospitable.  Our thanks go
out to them[2], as well as to Bill Poliquin[2], of GotInk4U in Nashua.

Especially, my own thanks go out to the other members of the team,
Roseann and Mark.  Thanks, guys!

Respectfully submitted,

Bill

_
[1] I've been using glabels to make business cards, with the GNHLUG
logo, so we can hand out contact information tailored to the occasion.
(Thanks to Ed Lawson, who had the original idea.)  What I learned
this time:  1. Libarary isn't spelled that way;  2. Librarians do
NOT overlook such things...

[2] It makes a lot of sense, I think, for a library to offer this kind
of thing, since it is after all an access-to-information program.  And
the fact that libraries already have calendars and announcements fills
a gap for which SFD is not well equipped.  

  [2a] (Shouldn't there be a kiosk in every public library where
  free-software disks are available for people to take home?)

Incidentally, after the meeting I discovered that we had been mentioned
in the Milford Observer:
  Open Source Software
Monday, November 19, 6:30-8:30 in the Conference Room.
   Have you heard about FREE Open-Source software? Well, if
you're not sure what that it, here's a chance to find out.
Members of GNHLUG (Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group)
will be here to explain what open source software is, how
to get it FREE, and how to use it. If you're tired of paying
big bucks for software at the store or worry about virus
infections getting into your computer, you might want to look
into open source software.
   We would like to have some idea of how many folks are
interested in coming to this event, so please register by
calling the library at 673-2408, emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.lib.nh.us or signing up on our online calendar at www
.wadleigh.lib.nh.us

How nice is that?

[3] Bill Poliqin generously provided the PCs we used, notably including
a real copy of XP, which is indespensable. (And which none of us has
anymore. :)  Thanks, Bill!
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ASUS Eee sub-sub-notebook

2007-11-20 Thread Coleman Kane
I was forwarded this today:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/review_asus_eee_pc/

ASUS ultra-portable shipped with Xandros.

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Lower power portable Linux

2007-11-20 Thread Ben Scott
  A recent review[1] of the Asus Eee PC stated (paraphrased): Power
management on Linux sucks.

[1] http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/review_asus_eee_pc/print.html

  Back when I looked into this (years ago), that was largely true.
During active use, Linux was more power efficient vs Windows, but when
the machine was fully idle, Linux did little to save even more power.
Turning off the CRT was about it.  S3 (suspend-to-RAM) was often
prevented by drivers.  S4 (suspend-to-disk) was experimental,
unstable, and/or just plain didn't work.

  Can anyone who has played with this more recently comment on how a
modern Linux distro does on today's hardware?

  I'm especially interested in how it fares for someone like me, who
prefers to run a traditional *nix window manager and logon, without
session management and a desktop environment and a bunch of extra
daemons and so on.

-- Ben
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Re: Lower power portable Linux

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
It's better now, for the most part.

A few drivers still don't suspend and resume properly, but there are often 
workarounds like removing them before suspending.  Utilities like powertop can 
help identify what's causing the CPU or other subsystems to be drawing more 
power than needed.

Using it, I was able to get my IBM x40 from about 14W to about 10W.

Some of the recommendations  from powertop are 'obvious' like using noatime.  
Others include things like lowering the Tx power for the wifi card or disabling 
bluetooth if it's not in use.

I think the biggest draws are still the backlight on the display.  Reducing 
that will help your battery life a lot, even if your other hardware doesn't 
play nice.

-Mark

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Fwd: Lower power portable Linux

2007-11-20 Thread Tyson Sawyer
-- Forwarded message --
From: Tyson Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Nov 20, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Lower power portable Linux
To: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]


S3 w/Ubuntu 7.04 on a Dell Latitude D820 is pretty good, but not
perfect.  Sometimes wireless or something like that might not recover,
but its definitely good enough to configure the computer to suspend to
ram instead of crash or power-down if it runs out of batter while
unattended.  That way I don't loose the state of my apps.  Its also
good enough that I sometimes use it.   ...but since I don't fully
trust all devices to work correctly after a suspend, I normally power
it off.

I just (3 days ago) updated to Ubuntu 7.10 and it is at least as good.
 I haven't tested it enough to know if it is better or not.

Cheers!
Ty


On Nov 20, 2007 6:03 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A recent review[1] of the Asus Eee PC stated (paraphrased): Power
 management on Linux sucks.

 [1] http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/review_asus_eee_pc/print.html

   Back when I looked into this (years ago), that was largely true.
 During active use, Linux was more power efficient vs Windows, but when
 the machine was fully idle, Linux did little to save even more power.
 Turning off the CRT was about it.  S3 (suspend-to-RAM) was often
 prevented by drivers.  S4 (suspend-to-disk) was experimental,
 unstable, and/or just plain didn't work.

   Can anyone who has played with this more recently comment on how a
 modern Linux distro does on today's hardware?

   I'm especially interested in how it fares for someone like me, who
 prefers to run a traditional *nix window manager and logon, without
 session management and a desktop environment and a bunch of extra
 daemons and so on.

 -- Ben
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A well-schooled electorate being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and read Books shall not be infringed.



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A well-schooled electorate being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and read Books shall not be infringed.
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Hardware for sale

2007-11-20 Thread Dan Miller
I have some hardware that I can not use and would like to sell:

ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 - $40. Does not fully work with Myth, but you can
watch tv in Myth with this card (if you are up for the challenge to
configure myth).

256 256MB RDRAM PC-800 nonECC - $20/each (have 2 of them). NEC
MC-4R256FKE6D-845

P4 1.3Ghz/256/400/1.7V Processor - $10. No HSF.

Prices are negotiable. Willing to take best offer.

Dan
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Re: No disk / Wrong disk message when burning CD-RW

2007-11-20 Thread Larry Cook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way I can reset the device driver or the device itself w/o 
 rebooting the system?
 
 If it's an ATAPI cdrom, you might try hdparm -w /dev/cdrom.  N.B.:
 the -w option to hdparm is considered DANGEROUS.  If you have your
 CD-ROM driver compiled as a module, you could always rmmod/insmod
 again.

Thanks for the info.  I tried hdparm -w, which logged logged that it 
reset the device, but that didn't make any difference.  I then tried 
another CD-RW and that worked, so maybe I just have a CD-RW that has 
gone bad.

Larry
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Free Hardware

2007-11-20 Thread Jarod Wilson
I'm continuing to clean out my massive stockpile of aging and  
currently unused hardware... This round, I've got 3 complete systems  
up for grabs. They're oldies, but goodies:


1) IBM Netfinity 4000R. This is a 1U rack-mount box, full rack depth.  
Dual-proc capable, but currently only has a single P3/600 in it. Also  
decked out with 1.2GB of Reg ECC RAM, dual onboard e100 NICs, 2 PCI  
slots (one w/an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI card in it, one w/another NIC in  
it), 9GB SCSI drive, slim CD-ROM. The box has Fedora 7 on it right  
now, fully updated a few days ago to verify that everything was still  
in working order and able to boot the latest kernel, etc.



2) Dell PowerEdge 2300. Beefy dual P3/600 server machine with 1.5GB  
of Reg ECC RAM. Onboard SCSI controller is hooked to hot-swap  
chassis, fully populated with 6 SCSI hard drives (4x18GB, 2x9GB, and  
I have a spare 18GB in a tray to go with it). No onboard network, but  
one of the 6 PCI slots has an e100 NIC in it. Onboard SCSI isn't  
hardware RAID, but can be upgraded to such via an add-on card thingy  
that can be found on eBay. Only caveat with this system is that I  
don't have the front panel covers for the two 5.25 bays that are  
currently empty (the drives formerly in those slots got pirated a  
while ago). Like the IBM box, also has Fedora 7 on it, fully updated,  
etc.



3) Generic 2U half-depth rack-mount (was actually an F5 load-balancer  
at one point in time). P3/600 proc, 384MB RAM, 20GB ATA hard drive,  
ATA CD-ROM drive, two 3com PCI NICs. Recently updated to Fedora 8,  
everything works upon cursory inspection, etc.



Also available for the adventurous:

A 25-port (24 10/100, 1GBIC) CyberIQ Systems HyperFlow3 load- 
balancer. I don't have a clue if this thing actually works or how. It  
powers on and at the very least does function as a switch (albeit a  
fairly large and loud one). There's a serial console port on the  
thing too. Somewhere or other, I found some windows-based software  
for talking to this thing, but I never got around to poking at it. A  
quick google search says this thing is running VxWorks under the  
covers. This seems to be one of the manuals for it: http:// 
cliffbrooks.com/Samples/Smart_Agent.pdf and this seems to be some  
other potentially useful info: http://www.lundman.net/hyper.html .



All items available for pickup in Tyngsboro or Westford...

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Jarod Wilson
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Re: Free Hardware

2007-11-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 20:42, Jarod Wilson wrote:
 1) IBM Netfinity 4000R.
I have a couple of these and can always use parts.  I'm in Tyngsboro too.

 2) Dell PowerEdge 2300. Beefy dual P3/600 server machine with 1.5GB
 3) Generic 2U half-depth rack-mount (was actually an F5 load-balancer
I'm sure I could find a use for this as well, if no one else wants it.

 All items available for pickup in Tyngsboro or Westford...
I live in Tyngsboro - I can pickup anytime.  Are you looking for money for 
this stuff or is it free?
-N
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