IMAP Server
Morning all, I'm looking for help choosing an IMAP server for my own simple needs. I currently store my email in maildir format, I use fetchmail to retrieve it, procmail to filter it and mutt to read it. If possible, I'd still like to use these tools and add Thunderbird (or any IMAP capable client) on Linux and Windows machines to access my mail trough an SSH tunnel. If it matters, the server won't be facing the Internet. Can anyone recommend an IMAP server that will allow me to do this? I'm hoping for something simple but effective. If you need more information from me, please let me know. -- M@ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
Can anyone recommend an IMAP server that will allow me to do this? I'm hoping for something simple but effective. If you need more information from me, please let me know. I find Dovecot to be both of those things (simple and effective). I think it would serve your needs pretty easily. http://www.dovecot.org/ -Shawn ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
I currently store my email in maildir format, I use fetchmail to retrieve it, procmail to filter it and mutt to read it My situation is similar enough to yours (I'm totally addicted to maildir format but use EXMH instead of mutt) that I hope to be able to follow your investigations here on the list, or at least to read a summary afterwards... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
Matt Snell writes: Can anyone recommend an IMAP server that will allow me to do this? I'm hoping for something simple but effective. If you need more information from me, please let me know. I have a similar setup to what you are asking for here, and I have always had good luck with the Courier IMAP server. Others might also recommend Dovecot and Cyrus IMAP -- these servers also have good reputations. I've never had a day of trouble with Courier so I've stuck with this for years. Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24EMeet me by the knuckles alumni.unh.edu!kdcof the skinny-bone tree. http://kdc-blog.blogspot.com/ -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again
On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) John Abreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL connection with a modem that is designed to allow only a single machine to access it. It worked fine with MacOS when I first installed it, but it didn't work with Linux until I discovered that it authorizes a machine when that machine uses the DSL modem to resolve a DNS query. Tech support was completely useless, and I only found out about it when I listed all the differences in network configurations between the Mac and the Linux box and then experimented with the results. So, while this has nothing to do with Comcast, how did you eventually resolve it? Are you using Linux as a router? Additionally, Comcast's predecessors, Continental CableVison initially would use the PC's MAC address the first time you provisioned. As a result, if you changed your NIC card or computer, you needed to call tech support to update the provisioning. They stopped this somewhere between MediaOne and ATTBI. I don't know what policies other ISP's have. I generally clone my MAC address into my router, but that is kind of unnecessary now. The cable modem does store the MAC address, but that can be cleared when you power down the cable modem. Secondly, most level 1 tech support people are not highly technically knowledgeable. They generally answer questions from a cookbook. So, when you call, you might get someone totally clueless or sometimes someone who has some technical knowledge. I've also found that some of the more technically knowledgeable people are the ones from India. In most cases, your best bet is to try to elevate it up to level 2 or higher where you do get a tech with some technical expertise. -- -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Ancient computer humor
YaProbably... Somewhere in my dusty, crusty collection I have a bunch of those, and even a few of the 96 column cards from the Itty Bitty Machine company... When I was in school the 80 column cards made great shopping lists!!..Fit right in the back pocket! DKB On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Fran Fadden [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Bodman wrote: Babbage Thumb Drive.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2443705835/in/set-72157604746354085/ grin David Bodman Not to be too pedantic, but shouldn't that be a Hollerith Thumb Drive? :-) Fran Fadden ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Others might also recommend Dovecot and Cyrus IMAP ... Last I knew (which was, admittedly, years ago) Cyrus doesn't support Maildir. It only supports its own format. The format is similar to Maildir (in that it uses one-file-per-message), but not the same. Cyrus is also not what I would call simple. It didn't strike me as over complicated, but it is designed to scale for large installations. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
Ben Scott writes: Last I knew (which was, admittedly, years ago) Cyrus doesn't support Maildir. It only supports its own format. The format is similar to Maildir (in that it uses one-file-per-message), but not the same. Cyrus is also not what I would call simple. It didn't strike me as over complicated, but it is designed to scale for large installations. I believe this is all true, now that you have reminded me. In my own case, I spent an entire *long* day trying to get Cyrus setup once. I simply wasn't successful. It was too complicated for my tiny little brain. This was a long time ago, though -- things are probably better now. Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24EMeet me by the knuckles alumni.unh.edu!kdcof the skinny-bone tree. http://kdc-blog.blogspot.com/ -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
On May 02, 2008, Kevin D. Clark sent me the following: I have a similar setup to what you are asking for here, and I have always had good luck with the Courier IMAP server. Others might also recommend Dovecot and Cyrus IMAP -- these servers also have good reputations. I've never had a day of trouble with Courier so I've stuck with this for years. I've used Courier-IMAP (not the full MTA) in a number of fairly heavy use environments and never had an issue with it. I've also been using Dovecot for my personal mail for nearly a year, and also haven't had an issue with it. One nice thing if you're using Postfix, you can use Dovecot's SASL library instead of the Cyrus SASL for doing SMTP AUTH. I find it much easier to set up and understand. -- Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weblog.2bithacker.net/PGP key ID 43C4819E v4sw5PUhw4/5ln5pr5FOPck4ma4u6FLOw5Xm5l5Ui2e4t4/5ARWb7HKOen6a2Xs5IMr2g6CM signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
DNS server list setup question
I'm sorry if this is a malformed question... In which file does one set up the list of DNS servers for a linux box? I'm adding a network printer to my computer. I was unsuccessful for a while. I did note that I could ping the print server on my windows computer, but not on my linux computer. In which file do I add the additional company dns servers? Thanks! -Bruce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNS server list setup question
/etc/resolv.conf For example: search localnet codemeta.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 192.168.56.32 --Bruce Labitt, Bruce wrote: I'm sorry if this is a malformed question... In which file does one set up the list of DNS servers for a linux box? I'm adding a network printer to my computer. I was unsuccessful for a while. I did note that I could ping the print server on my windows computer, but not on my linux computer. In which file do I add the additional company dns servers? Thanks! -Bruce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] - bad bad humor
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 15:15 -0400, Star wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems Go to the Feature Compairison... Note the last feature column. I take it you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systemsoldid=209285146 -- Coleman Kane ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
RE: DNS server list setup question
Thanks! After a while, all these files blend together. I thought it was easy, just could not for the life of me remember where it was or what it was called. -Bruce -Original Message- From: Bruce Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:41 AM To: Labitt, Bruce Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: DNS server list setup question /etc/resolv.conf For example: search localnet codemeta.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 192.168.56.32 --Bruce Labitt, Bruce wrote: I'm sorry if this is a malformed question... In which file does one set up the list of DNS servers for a linux box? I'm adding a network printer to my computer. I was unsuccessful for a while. I did note that I could ping the print server on my windows computer, but not on my linux computer. In which file do I add the additional company dns servers? Thanks! -Bruce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:49 -0400, Matt Snell wrote: Morning all, I'm looking for help choosing an IMAP server for my own simple needs. I currently store my email in maildir format, I use fetchmail to retrieve it, procmail to filter it and mutt to read it. If possible, I'd still like to use these tools and add Thunderbird (or any IMAP capable client) on Linux and Windows machines to access my mail trough an SSH tunnel. If it matters, the server won't be facing the Internet. Can anyone recommend an IMAP server that will allow me to do this? I'm hoping for something simple but effective. If you need more information from me, please let me know. I've always like courier-imap for dealing with Maildirs. -- Coleman Kane ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DNS server list setup question
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! After a while, all these files blend together. I thought it was easy, just could not for the life of me remember where it was or what it was called. /etc/resolv.conf Just remember, depending on what distro and tools your using to manage the network, it is likely that /etc/resolv.conf will get gleefully overwritten by many tools.. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
NSA linux configuration guidance
This morning I came across a link to this document: http://www.nsa.gov/snac/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf 170 page PDF While the focus is Redhat Enterprise, much of the advice is generic Linux. I found it clearly written with lists of configuration commands that can be applied fairly easily. The document is from December, 2007, but I do not recall seeing any pointers here on the list. -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp DLSLUG/GNHLUG library http://www.librarything.com/catalog/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/profile/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/rsshtml/recent/dlslug ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
new books in library
We've added Fedora 2008 Edition Essential Linux Device Drivers Use the links below for details. -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp DLSLUG/GNHLUG library http://www.librarything.com/catalog/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/profile/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/rsshtml/recent/dlslug ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again
Yes, I'm using a Linux server as my router. Once I noticed the DNS-related behavior, I power-cycled the DSL modem so I could test it thoroughly to confirm it. After that, I set up an hourly cron job on the routing server that asks the DSL modem to resolve www.google.com: host www.google.com dsl.abreau.net (where abreau.net is my internal DNS zone, not the external abreau.net zone on the BLU server). On Fri, May 2, 2008 9:47 am, Jerry Feldman said: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) John Abreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL connection with a modem that is designed to allow only a single machine to access it. It worked fine with MacOS when I first installed it, but it didn't work with Linux until I discovered that it authorizes a machine when that machine uses the DSL modem to resolve a DNS query. Tech support was completely useless, and I only found out about it when I listed all the differences in network configurations between the Mac and the Linux box and then experimented with the results. So, while this has nothing to do with Comcast, how did you eventually resolve it? Are you using Linux as a router? Additionally, Comcast's -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: NSA linux configuration guidance
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I came across a link to this document: http://www.nsa.gov/snac/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf 170 page PDF The entire SNAC site is pretty good: http://www.nsa.gov/SNAC/ NIST also has some good stuff on their website: http://csrc.nist.gov/ I found it clearly written with lists of configuration commands that can be applied fairly easily. Politics aside, the NSA knows what they are doing. The document is from December, 2007, but I do not recall seeing any pointers here on the list. It's been mentioned, but not as a thread of its own. Prolly a good idea to post as such. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Converting mailboxes from mbox to maildir.
Since the subject of IMAP servers has come up, I thought I'd ask about something I really need to get around to soon. I have issues with mbox corruption about 1-2 times per year, and still haven't made the switch to Maildir. I'd like to do it before I get an urgent crisis again. :) I'm using dovecot as my IMAP/POP server. Does anyone know if it's possible for it to work with both mbox and Maildir at the same time so I can convert my users' mailboxes one user account at a time? From my research so far I'm under the impression that I can configure doevcot to use either mbox or Maildir for all user accounts, but not both. War stories and other advice on migrating from mbox to Maildir are welcome. Thanks, Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Converting mailboxes from mbox to maildir.
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 13:53 -0400, Scott Garman wrote: Since the subject of IMAP servers has come up, I thought I'd ask about something I really need to get around to soon. I have issues with mbox corruption about 1-2 times per year, and still haven't made the switch to Maildir. I'd like to do it before I get an urgent crisis again. :) I'm using dovecot as my IMAP/POP server. Does anyone know if it's possible for it to work with both mbox and Maildir at the same time so I can convert my users' mailboxes one user account at a time? From my research so far I'm under the impression that I can configure doevcot to use either mbox or Maildir for all user accounts, but not both. War stories and other advice on migrating from mbox to Maildir are welcome. Thanks, Scott You can install procmail and use the formail and procmail programs to perform the conversion. I believe you want to set up a procmail rule to deliver mail into a maildir (specify the destination with a trailing slash). Then you use something like this: formail -s procmail mboxfile I recommend reading up on the procmail/formail manpage before doing this to ensure that memory serves me right. -- Coleman Kane signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
Thanks everyone, for all of the info, I'm now playing with both Dovecot and Courier. Turns out that both really want me to be using the Maildir++ format which means some linking or renaming for me. If I find anything else interesting or useful, I'll post back. On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:49:07AM -0400, Matt Snell (gmail) wrote: Morning all, I'm looking for help choosing an IMAP server for my own simple needs. I currently store my email in maildir format, I use fetchmail to retrieve it, procmail to filter it and mutt to read it. If possible, I'd still like to use these tools and add Thunderbird (or any IMAP capable client) on Linux and Windows machines to access my mail trough an SSH tunnel. If it matters, the server won't be facing the Internet. Can anyone recommend an IMAP server that will allow me to do this? I'm hoping for something simple but effective. If you need more information from me, please let me know. -- M@ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
According to the Definitions, and goals section here: http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html ...you shouldn't have to care: Maildir++ and Maildir shall be completely interchangeable. A Maildir++ client will be able to use a standard Maildir, automatically upgrading it in the process. A Maildir client will be able to use a Maildir++ just like a regular Maildir. Of course, a plain Maildir client won't be able to enforce a quota, and won't be able to access messages stored in folders. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
It may just be my own fault, I've done more with Dovecot today than I have with Courier so that's where I'm getting my information. But in my initial playing, I found that both tools want my mail folders (other than INBOX) to have a leading dot in the filename, .Gmail for instance (my don't). I'm looking around Courier's docs to see if I can get around that, seems I can't with Dovecot (see below). http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir under Directory Structure states if your maildir folders exist in eg. ~/Maildir/folder and ~/Maildir/folder/subfolder, Dovecot won't see them unless you rename them to Maildir++ layout. So if I understand correctly, I just didn't follow the right naming convention when I started exploring mutt and mail formats. I'm still reading, it may turn out that everything I've just written is completely wrong, this is the fun part :) On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:41:27PM -0400, Michael ODonnell wrote: According to the Definitions, and goals section here: http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html ...you shouldn't have to care: Maildir++ and Maildir shall be completely interchangeable. A Maildir++ client will be able to use a standard Maildir, automatically upgrading it in the process. A Maildir client will be able to use a Maildir++ just like a regular Maildir. Of course, a plain Maildir client won't be able to enforce a quota, and won't be able to access messages stored in folders. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Converting mailboxes from mbox to maildir.
I'm using dovecot as my IMAP/POP server. Does anyone know if it's possible for it to work with both mbox and Maildir at the same time so I can convert my users' mailboxes one user account at a time? From my research so far I'm under the impression that I can configure doevcot to use either mbox or Maildir for all user accounts, but not both. There's a page in the dovecot wiki about mbox-Maildir. It looks like one option is to enable a dovecot feature and the next user login will convert it. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration/MailFormat -Shawn ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: IMAP Server
Matt Snell writes: It may just be my own fault, I've done more with Dovecot today than I have with Courier so that's where I'm getting my information. But in my initial playing, I found that both tools want my mail folders (other than INBOX) to have a leading dot in the filename, .Gmail for instance (my don't). I'm looking around Courier's docs to see if I can get around that, seems I can't with Dovecot (see below). FYI, here is how I file mail with Procmail in a manner that works with Courier IMAP: :0w * ^TO.*gnhlug(-discuss|-jobs|-org)?@ $HOME/Maildir/.gnhlug/ So, my GNHLUG mail ends up in a folder called (in IMAP-speak): INBOX.gnhlug When I played around with Dovecot, I remember very clearly that the mailbox names (at a filesystem/Maildir level) were different. YMMV. Regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24EMeet me by the knuckles alumni.unh.edu!kdcof the skinny-bone tree. http://kdc-blog.blogspot.com/ -- Tom Waits ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
