[GNHLUG] Request for participating in Hugo Corbucci's survey on developer communications tools

2009-08-13 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
It is not often that I ask for your help, and this help is not even for
me, but for a young Brazilian friend of mine named Hugo Corbucci.

Hugo is doing his Master's degree and is doing a survey of software
tools that a developer and his team of people might use in doing
communicationswell, you can probably read his email below.

There are only about 15 questions, it goes really quickly, and if you do
any FOSS development as a team member, I would appreciate you helping
Hugo out with this web-based survey.

The results of the survey will be online at the end, and you can even
opt-in to be notified of the results automatically by email.

Thanks,

md

 Forwarded Message 

Hello Jon,
I've just started talking about the survey I built up to identify a few
tools that might help free software forges reduce the communication
issues between a developers' team and their users as well as between
developers. I've already contacted the forges I know about (sourceforge,
launchpad, github, codehaus and google code) to ask for their help and
github was really quick.
But I think some more help can't be bad. :)
Could you help me out diffusing
http://www.ime.usp.br/~corbucci/floss-survey.html?



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Re: Google App Engine

2009-08-13 Thread Thomas Charron
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> On 08/13/2009 12:32 PM, Paul Lussier wrote:
>>> Granted, no direct database access, but
>>> > with JDO objects, they store it.
>> Can you explain to us non-Java devs what this means exactly ?
> JDO is 'Java Data Objects' - a data storage abstraction.  The app
> developer works with objects, and the back-end can be switched out
> independently to various stores.
>
> Thanks for posting this, Thomas, somehow I missed the announcement.

  I'd originally looked at it back when it only supported Python as a
language.  When they added Java, I didn't really look, I made an
assumption they where talking about JSP pages or something of the
sort.  Then I actually wanted to host some JSP pages, figured I'd take
a look, and said, "Holy Crap!"

  Actually, that's a good note to make.  This application service also
support Python, for all of you Phythonists out there.  :-D

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Re: Google App Engine

2009-08-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 08/13/2009 12:32 PM, Paul Lussier wrote:
>> Granted, no direct database access, but
>> > with JDO objects, they store it.
> Can you explain to us non-Java devs what this means exactly ?
> 

JDO is 'Java Data Objects' - a data storage abstraction.  The app
developer works with objects, and the back-end can be switched out
independently to various stores.

Thanks for posting this, Thomas, somehow I missed the announcement.

-Bill

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Re: Google App Engine

2009-08-13 Thread Thomas Charron
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Lussier wrote:
> Thomas Charron  writes:
>>  I was totally floored by the fact that I can deploy a servlet into
>> Googles server farm, store data up there, and the 'free' limits are
>> higher then many pay sites.  Granted, no direct database access, but
>> with JDO objects, they store it.
> Can you explain to us non-Java devs what this means exactly ?

  You can host your code on their servers.  Additionally, you get
access the memcache, data access, etc, deployed in Google data
centers.  The free portion basically allows you to provide 1 Gig per
day to users of your application.

>>  I'm just totally floored by how much their offering for free.
> It's not for free.  It's costing you something, and they're getting
> something.  You just haven't figured out what those costs are yet :)

  Well, beside's saying Google a beelion times, not too much.
Increasing resource caps is ludicrously cheap, so if a > 1 mil hits a
month site takes off, they have to pay.  However, the quota scale is
this (all units are per day):

  CPU Time:  Free Quota : 6.5 processor hours Additional Time: $0.10 per hour
  Outgoing
  Bandwidth:  Free Quota: 1GB Additional Space: $0.12 per GB
  Incoming
  Bandwidth:  Free Quota: 1GB Additional Space: $0.12 per GB
  Stored
  Data:  Free Quote:  1GB Additional Space: $0.005 per GB

  There are also other quotas on variouse services (only a *mere*
2,000 a day can you send, oh my), but they also have small microfees
associated if you wish to increase the cap.

  The only real non-dynamic per day cost would be Stored Data, which
would generally not shrink.  But then again, Spending a whopping $5.00
a month would end up giving you like 10 GB of data stored.

  I suppose it does make it much easier when a site grows to keep it
in the 'google family', as I'd have to increase my outgoing bandwidth
to be able to export my data in a day.  Bummer, dude..  :-D

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Re: Google App Engine

2009-08-13 Thread Paul Lussier
Thomas Charron  writes:

>  I was totally floored by the fact that I can deploy a servlet into
> Googles server farm, store data up there, and the 'free' limits are
> higher then many pay sites.  Granted, no direct database access, but
> with JDO objects, they store it.

Can you explain to us non-Java devs what this means exactly ?

>  I'm just totally floored by how much their offering for free.

It's not for free.  It's costing you something, and they're getting
something.  You just haven't figured out what those costs are yet :)

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