Re: pvcreate to raid1 fails
Sure, I'll paste a full dump later on - not to the listserv. I am running Fedora 12 with kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64 Processor is an AMD Opteron Quad Core. 6GB memory. LVM is lvm2-2.02.53-2.fc12.x86_64 The error message was copied and pasted: [...@gaf ~]$ sudo pvcreate /dev/md1 /dev/md1: pe_align (128 sectors) must not be less than pe_align_offset (36028797018963967 sectors) /dev/md1: Format-specific setup of physical volume failed. Failed to setup physical volume /dev/md1 I've posted the details at: http://pastebin.com/4AtMzEjr Note that my version of lvm2 is a bit behind the sources that you reference. Essentially, I back up my entire system using rsnapshot so I could simply start from scratch and restore my backed up file systems and allocate the raid1 volumes from scratch which is a backup plan, but I would prefer not to do that and try to solve the problem. On 03/03/2010 12:59 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: The difference between the way I did it an your suggestion is I had missing before the /dev/sdc2. I'm pretty sure that doesn't matter. Going back to the OP: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: [r...@gaf gaf]# pvcreate -v -f /dev/md1 /dev/md1: pe_align (128 sectors) must not be less than pe_align_offset $ wget --quiet ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/lvm2/LVM2.2.02.61.tgz $ tar -xzf LVM2.2.02.61.tgz $ grep -lr must not be less than LVM2.2.02.61 $ What OS/distribution, release, and LVM version are you running? Are you sure that you have that error message transcribed correctly? :) Let's do the infodump drill. Post the output of: fdisk -l /dev/sda cat /proc/partitions mdadm --detail /dev/md0 mdadm --detail /dev/md1 mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1 mdadm --examine /dev/sdc2 pvs vgs lvs If you prefer, you may want to use http://pastebin.com/ or similar rather than dumping it all into an email. You may also want to explore the following commands: lvmdiskscan pvscan pvck vgck -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: pvcreate to raid1 fails
On 03/03/2010 12:59 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: The difference between the way I did it an your suggestion is I had missing before the /dev/sdc2. I'm pretty sure that doesn't matter. Going back to the OP: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: [r...@gaf gaf]# pvcreate -v -f /dev/md1 /dev/md1: pe_align (128 sectors) must not be less than pe_align_offset $ wget --quiet ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/lvm2/LVM2.2.02.61.tgz $ tar -xzf LVM2.2.02.61.tgz $ grep -lr must not be less than LVM2.2.02.61 $ Just a bit more. The message comes from LVM2.2.02.61/lib/format_text/format-text.c Rather than reitereating the exact code, there are a number of FixMe comments both at the start of the function, _text_pv_setup line 1794. Based on the message: /dev/md1: pe_align (128 sectors) must not be less than pe_align_offset (36028797018963967 sectors) I would suspect that possibly pe_align_offset may either not be initialized properly or is picking up incorrect information since /dev/sdc2 starts at cylinder 26. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
[WARNING: Lots of code here...] Gregg: Thanks for following up on this. I too thought xmlstarlet would be an excellent tool, but I'm having problems running it. I'm attempting to print out an input field using the script: #!/bin/bash # $Header$ # Fetch the value of a field from an OO document xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 \ -N style=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:style:1.0 \ -N text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0 \ -N table=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:table:1.0 \ -N draw=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:drawing:1.0 \ -N fo=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:xsl-fo-compatible:1.0 \ -N xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; \ -N dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; \ -N meta=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:meta:1.0 \ -N number=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:datastyle:1.0 \ -N svg=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0 \ -N chart=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:chart:1.0 \ -N dr3d=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:dr3d:1.0 \ -N math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; \ -N form=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:form:1.0 \ -N script=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:script:1.0 \ -N ooo=http://openoffice.org/2004/office; \ -N ooow=http://openoffice.org/2004/writer; \ -N oooc=http://openoffice.org/2004/calc; \ -N dom=http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events; \ -N xforms=http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms; \ -N xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; \ -N xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; \ -N field=urn:openoffice:names:experimental:ooxml-odf-interop:xmlns:field:1.0 \ -t -v office:document-content/office:body/office:text/text:p/text:span/text:text-input content.xml But this only produces: XPath error : Undefined namespace prefix xmlXPathCompiledEval: evaluation failed runtime error: element value-of XPath evaluation returned no result. Note that before running that command, I unzipped http://www.brucedawson.com/files/SomeFarmRentalAgreement.odt into the current directory. (That file is test data, feel free to look at it.) The most frustrating part is that I don't know which namespace prefix it is having problems with. And I'm including all the namespaces mentioned in the content.xml! Of course, the script will eventually be extended to extract a particular element (like RenterDriverName, or AgreementDate, or ...), but I need to get it to successfully parse the whole thing first. --Bruce G Rundlett wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com mailto:j...@codemeta.com wrote: Has anyone used xmlstarlet (a command-line xml parser) to get data from content.xml (OpenOffice) files? I had not heard of it before, so thanks for pointing it out. (Note to general readers: on my Ubuntu system I had to create a symbolic link 'xml' to /usr/bin/xmlstarlet to use the 'xml' command referenced in the documentation.) It seems to be complaining about Undefined namespace prefix, and I can't seem to figure out what it wants. I was able to get results by specifying more/all of the namespaces used in the document in question. For example: xml select -N :1.0' -N table='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:table:1.0' -N draw='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:drawing:1.0' -N fo='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:xsl-fo-compatible:1.0' -N xlink='http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink' -N dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/' -N meta='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:meta:1.0' -N number='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:datastyle:1.0' -N svg='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0' -N chart='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:chart:1.0' -N dr3d='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:dr3d:1.0' -N form='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:form:1.0' -N script='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:script:1.0' -N ooo='http://openoffice.org/2004/office' -N ooow='http://openoffice.org/2004/writer' -N oooc='http://openoffice.org/2004/calc' -N dom='http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events' -N xforms='http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms' -N xsd='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema' -N xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' -N rpt='http://openoffice.org/2005/report' -N of='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:of:1.2' -N rdfa='http://docs.oasis-open.org/opendocument/meta/rdfa#' -N field='urn:openoffice:names:experimental:ooxml-odf-interop:xmlns:field:1.0' -N formx='urn:openoffice:names:experimental:ooxml-odf-interop:xmlns:form:1.0' --text --template --value-of office:document-content content.xml Or, xmlstarlet select -T -N office=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 -N xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; -N dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; -N
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com wrote: [WARNING: Lots of code here...] Adding the -C option to your command line yields: ?xml version=1.0? xsl:stylesheet version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns:exslt=http://exslt.org/common; xmlns:math=http://exslt.org/math; xmlns:date=http://exslt.org/dates-and-times; xmlns:func=http://exslt.org/functions; xmlns:set=http://exslt.org/sets; xmlns:str=http://exslt.org/strings; xmlns:dyn=http://exslt.org/dynamic; xmlns:saxon=http://icl.com/saxon; xmlns:xalanredirect=org.apache.xalan.xslt.extensions.Redirect xmlns:xt=http://www.jclark.com/xt; xmlns:libxslt=http://xmlsoft.org/XSLT/namespace; xmlns:test=http://xmlsoft.org/XSLT/; xmlns:office=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 extension-element-prefixes=exslt math date func set str dyn saxon xalanredirect xt libxslt test exclude-result-prefixes=math str xsl:output omit-xml-declaration=yes indent=no method=text/ xsl:param name=inputFile-/xsl:param xsl:template match=/ xsl:call-template name=t1/ /xsl:template xsl:template name=t1 xsl:value-of select=office:*/ /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet Note that only the first -N namespace declaration (office=...) is emitted in the XSLT. This makes me think the doc lies when it says multiple -N options are supported. Maybe there's a special trick to make it work? When I change the XPath expression to only use the office namespace, I get the following: $ xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 \ -N style=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:style:1.0 \ -N text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0 \ -N table=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:table:1.0 \ -N draw=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:drawing:1.0 \ -N fo=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:xsl-fo-compatible:1.0 \ -N xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; \ -N dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; \ -N meta=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:meta:1.0 \ -N number=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:datastyle:1.0 \ -N svg=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0 \ -N chart=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:chart:1.0 \ -N dr3d=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:dr3d:1.0 \ -N math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; \ -N form=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:form:1.0 \ -N script=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:script:1.0 \ -N ooo=http://openoffice.org/2004/office; \ -N ooow=http://openoffice.org/2004/writer; \ -N oooc=http://openoffice.org/2004/calc; \ -N dom=http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events; \ -N xforms=http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms; \ -N xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; \ -N xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; \ -N field=urn:openoffice:names:experimental:ooxml-odf-interop:xmlns:field:1.0 \ -t -v 'office:*' content.xml Trailer Rental AgreementSomeFarm; 123 Some Road; Town NH 03307603-783-3315I, SomeRenter, hereby agree to use the Keifer Built horse trailer owned by Some One (owner) for $VerySmallSum/day. Trailer will be picked up on 1 Jan 2010 and returned on 1 Jan 2010 to qualify for 0 day(s) rental.I agree that I am responsible for any and all bodily injury or property damage that may occur while it is in my possession. Further, I agree to hold the owner absolutely harmless from any responsibility for any claim whatsoever during the time of my use.The value of the trailer is hereby agreed to be $2500. I agree to pay the owner up to $VeryLargeSum for any damage to it. Repair costs will be determined solely by SomeFarm of Town, NH.The trailer shall not be moved with other than a 2” ball hitch.The trailer shall not be moved without its lights in full operation.No one other than the person signing below will move the trailer.Social Security # 123-45-6789Drivers License # 12ABC000101Copy of Vehicle Registration: attachedCopy of Certificate of Insurance: attachedCopy of Drivers License: attachedName/Driver 000 Some Street; SomePlace, NHSignature ___Telephone # 603-555-1234Date TodaySignature of SomeFarm representative__ Unfortunately, I don't have any hints to help you get multiple namespaces into the XSLT. -Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
This is an ugly hack, but it works... xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 xmlns:text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0' \ -t -v 'office:document-content/office:body/office:text/text:p/text:span/text:text-input' content.xml Luckily it passes the namespace declaration through to the XSLT unchanged. You only need to declare the namespaces used in the XPath query. -Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
Is there a syntax error in there? I looks like the quotes don't match up. And I get the same error as before when I try to fix those up. --Bruce Brian St. Pierre wrote: This is an ugly hack, but it works... xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 xmlns:text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0' \ -t -v 'office:document-content/office:body/office:text/text:p/text:span/text:text-input' content.xml Luckily it passes the namespace declaration through to the XSLT unchanged. You only need to declare the namespaces used in the XPath query. -Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
Ahh. I see now why its an ugly hack. I shudder when thinking how you discovered that syntax. --Bruce Bruce Dawson wrote: Is there a syntax error in there? I looks like the quotes don't match up. And I get the same error as before when I try to fix those up. --Bruce Brian St. Pierre wrote: This is an ugly hack, but it works... xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 xmlns:text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0' \ -t -v 'office:document-content/office:body/office:text/text:p/text:span/text:text-input' content.xml Luckily it passes the namespace declaration through to the XSLT unchanged. You only need to declare the namespaces used in the XPath query. -Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Using xmlstarlet and OpenOffice
Thanks to all who helped (especially Brian St. Pierre). I finally got the script to work, and put it on the web site (see http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/OfficeSuites). This is useful for extracting form data from an OO document (I mean document forms, not OObase forms). --Bruce Bruce Dawson wrote: Ahh. I see now why its an ugly hack. I shudder when thinking how you discovered that syntax. --Bruce Bruce Dawson wrote: Is there a syntax error in there? I looks like the quotes don't match up. And I get the same error as before when I try to fix those up. --Bruce Brian St. Pierre wrote: This is an ugly hack, but it works... xmlstarlet select --net -T \ -N office='urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0 xmlns:text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0' \ -t -v 'office:document-content/office:body/office:text/text:p/text:span/text:text-input' content.xml Luckily it passes the namespace declaration through to the XSLT unchanged. You only need to declare the namespaces used in the XPath query. -Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: pvcreate to raid1 fails
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: I am running Fedora 12 with kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64 LVM is lvm2-2.02.53-2.fc12.x86_64 Does Fedora have an updates for the kernel or LVM (or device mapper, etc.) to install? I've posted the details at: http://pastebin.com/4AtMzEjr Your two disks (eventually to be mirrored) are identical in size, but the partition tables are different. That is okay, but it may confuse people and/or software. For example: md1 (currently only on sdc2) is bigger than sda2. You will not be able to mirror md1 back on to sda2 without repartitioning sda, which will mean removing sda1 from md0. According to the output of fdisk -l, the end of sda1 and the start of sda2 both occur within cylinder 26. This may or may not be a problem. Can you post fdisk -lu /dev/sda output so we can see exact sector layout? I want to make sure the partitions do not overlap. According to IBM/Microsoft, partitions start and end on cylinder boundaries. If you ever use any OS or software which assumes IBM/Microsoft semantics, that may cause data loss, since as far as such software sees things, your partitions overlap. And IBM/Microsoft did define the pee sea partition table format... The cylinder boundary issue isn't supposed to matter to Linux (as long as sectors don't overlap), but partitioning in the pea sea is such a crock that it still has me worried. You may also want to compare the output of fdisk with the output of some other partitioning programs, just to see what other code thinks of your partition table. Sometimes different implementations will disagree. (See above about crock.) Try sfdisk -l. You can modify that with -uS to report sectors, -uB for blocks, or -uC for cylinders. Also try parted; the print command, optionally after various units commands. Other than that, things look okay. The kernel sees your partitions as they are defined on disk, RAID is reporting sensible information, LVM doesn't appear to think sdc2 is already in a VG or anything dumb like that. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: $ grep -lr must not be less than LVM2.2.02.61 The message comes from LVM2.2.02.61/lib/format_text/format-text.c Neat. Whoever wrote that code split the error message across multiple adjacent C literal strings. Sometimes I wonder if programmers are deliberately making our lives harder. BTW, good catch. How'd you find that? :) I would suspect that possibly pe_align_offset may either not be initialized properly ... Is the incredibly-large-number different for different runs of the program? (If so, it's prolly an uninitialized variable; if not, it's prolly broken program logic doing something consistently non-sensible. Not that that helps us much.) I note that you're running x86-64. I wonder if it's programmer brain damage, assuming that all integers are 32 bits wide. ... or is picking up incorrect information since /dev/sdc2 starts at cylinder 26. That *should* be okay, because sdc1 ends on cylinder 25.. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
[GNHLUG] [DLSLUG-Announce] TOMORROW: awesome - DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - 2010-03-04
*** Dartmouth-Lake Sunapee Linux User Group http://dlslug.org/ a chapter of GNHLUG - http://gnhlug.org *** The next regular monthly meeting of DLSLUG will be held: Thursday, March 4th, 7-9PM at: Dartmouth College, Carson L01 23 North Main Street, Hanover, NH All are welcome, free of charge. Agenda 5:30 Pre-meeting dinner at EBA's. RSVP and bring cash. 7:00 Sign-in, networking 7:15 Introductory remarks 7:20 awesome presented by James Murdza awesome is a highly configurable, keyboard oriented window manager for the X Window System. It is a tiling window manager, which means that by default windows are organized into a grid. awesome is very fast, extensible and licensed under the GNU GPLv2 license. It is written in C and Lua and uses the Lua language for configuration. The project's homepage is available at: http://awesome.naquadah.org/ James is a student at Hanover High. He hacks Linux, OS X, the iPhone, and PHP. - Driving Directions Please see the website for links to driving directions. Refreshments We currently lack a refreshment sponsor. If you or your company would like to provide or sponsor refreshments, please get in touch. RSVP RSVP by replying to this e-mail so we can give any refreshment sponsor a count. Mailing Lists There are two primary mailman lists set up for DLSLUG, an Announce list and a Discuss list. Please sign up for the Announce list (moderated, low-volume) to stay apprised of the group's activities and the Discuss list (unmoderated) for group discussion. Links to the mailing lists are on the webpage. Tell Your Friends Please pass this announcement along to anyone else who may be interested. -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.603.448.4440 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf Social networks: bill_mcgonigle/bill.mcgonigle ___ DLSLUG-Announce mailing list dlslug-annou...@dlslug.org http://dlslug.org/mailman/listinfo/dlslug-announce ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-annou...@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?
On 02/24/2010 09:06 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: If you charge in there like a zealot, you'll hurt the cause, not help it. This was pretty much the strategy last time - get a bill sponsored and try to get it passed mandating it. State IT opposed it and it got marked 'inexpedient to legislate'. A bottom-up approach is needed unless you can prove you know more than State IT about State IT to the relevant House committee. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.603.448.4440 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf Social networks: bill_mcgonigle/bill.mcgonigle ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
