Re: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?

2010-09-06 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Tom Buskey  writes:
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> > On 09/05/2010 07:52 PM, Tom Buskey wrote:
> > >
> > > I have 2 systems running recent OpenBSD releases for SSH portals.  One
> > > is a Sun Sparc with 96 MB ram and the other is a VM with 32 MB
> > > allocated to it.  I'm not sure I could do that with any major current
> > > Linux dist.  Maybe Slackware on i386.  Open + Net BSD installs seem
> > > similar to Slack.
> >
> > I have Debian Lenny running on a Linksys NSLU2 (32MB RAM).
> 
> And I run Ubuntu on a SmartQ 7 mid, an ARM based tablet w/ 256 MB and X11.
>  And apt-get works.
> 
> Is there a Debian based dist for the MIPS (?) chip in the Bennote?

There are two Debian MIPS ports--big-endian and little-endian:

http://www.debian.org/ports/mips/

There are multiple ways of installing the little-endian MIPS build
of Debian documented on the Qi Hardware website:

http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Debian

Caveat:

http://sdschulze.dnsalias.org/~soeren/content/debian-nanonote-kernel.txt

Debian is compiled with FPU support required.  Our processor
doesn't have any.  Luckily, Linux can emulate it in software.
Unluckily, this is very slow[...]

I guess that might explain why Debian felt a little more sluggish on
my FreeRunner than any of the OpenEmbedded-based systems did, too

-- 
"Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr."

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Re: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?

2010-09-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
 wrote:
>> X reports a resident size of 40 MB, although how much of
>> that (if any) might actually be video card RAM I dunno.
>
> I bet none of it is video-card RAM; a significant (not necessarily
> majority, but significant) portion of the RAM `used by X', though,
> is shared libraries that are also used by other processes--and those
> are basically `gratis' since you'd be using them regardless.

  I'm approaching the limits of my understanding now, but:

  I note that several of the shared libraries you list are specific to
the X server, and thus aren't shared by any other process.

  I've never used memstat before, but the manual page states that it
reports "virtual memory".  I was looking at the "RSS" (resident
segment size) column of ps.  Virtual size can include things which
aren't main RAM.  It would appear that memstat breaks out
memory-mapped files, but how does it treat things like pages swapped
to disk?

  (I wouldn't expect RSS to include RAM mapped from the video card,
but I didn't know that for sure, hence my qualification earlier.)

-- Ben
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