Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
How do I run that (auto-awesome) on my Linux box? I talk about google's awesome corrections a bit tongue in cheek, most of them are awful instagramy type effects. There is however an auto-enhance option(once uploaded from your linux box to google's linux box) that is subtle enough to be effective without touching a curves tool. I think digikam has a similar tool plus the option to break out the curve if you want to. Think my raw processing days are over until we start seeing that on our phones. Officially gave up on dslrs and won't touch the mirorless stuff till they have full frames, 4k displays and android/wifi. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: I have got tired of post-processing because of the time it takes. Sad to say google's auto-awesome impresses me in terms of time efficiency. How do I run that on my Linux box? You don't, you just upload direct from Android or from laptop to the gCloud and they'll awesome-ize it unless you say three times no i know better don't. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com writes: Fotoxx, which is my preferred tool for JPEG photo edits, now handles RAW file natively, no longer by just shelling out to ufrawdcraw. Caveat, since Mike avoids integer math overflow pixel problems by using FLOATs, so don't expect snappy performance on a limited machine with large RAWs ! Hrm. Is that actually an appropriate use of floats? I imagine people working with JPEGs as source material basically can't care about whatever precision is being lost; is the lost precision `down in the noise' for RAW, too? -- 'tis an ill wind that blows no minds. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Hrm. Is that actually an appropriate use of floats? I think so. With modern hardware, even efficient time-wise. But chews up RAM a little faster. I imagine people working with JPEGs as source material basically can't care about whatever precision is being lost; is the lost precision `down in the noise' for RAW, too? yeah, JPEGs are hardly precise or accurate or anything else. One reason to access the RAW ... RAWs *are* precise, like a 12, 14, or 16 bit per channel GIF/PNG/TIFF; the only compression if any is RLE. If i save a RAW out again as TIFF16, I shouldn't have lost any original bits in the diversion into Floats with 'merely' 24 bits of fraction, but autoscaling avoids trouble in exposure compensations etc. (File-on-disk hash difference should be dominated by metadata changing when re-writing.) ( A little noise down in the noise may actual help avoid Mach banding during processing, so 'useless' extra precision of 24 bits may actually be helpful too.) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Paul Beaudet inof...@gmail.com wrote: I have got tired of post-processing because of the time it takes. Sad to say google's auto-awesome impresses me in terms of time efficiency. How do I run that on my Linux box? -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: I have got tired of post-processing because of the time it takes. Sad to say google's auto-awesome impresses me in terms of time efficiency. How do I run that on my Linux box? You don't, you just upload direct from Android or from laptop to the gCloud and they'll awesome-ize it unless you say three times no i know better don't. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
I have got tired of post-processing because of the time it takes. Sad to say google's auto-awesome impresses me in terms of time efficiency. Laziness aside, if I remember correctly rawtherapee was a pretty good balance between workflow and power. Ultimately that is what it comes down to. If you want the most power you are probably going to be looking at a more challenging tool like darkroom and learning asinine things about colours. If you want the best workflow you will probably end up settling for auto awesome. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Roger H. Goun ro...@bcah.com wrote: In one way, I wish I was just getting started in digital photography today rather than eight years ago. Now there are good free software choices. Back then, I fought a losing battle with ufraw to get the results I wanted from my Canon 20D. confession/When the non-free Adobe Lightroom version 1 came along in beta I tried it, fell in love, and never looked back. I haven't used much free software for my photography in a long time, except for an occasional smartphone app. I have a fairly complex workflow and it would be a huge inconvenience to start over, though I've occasionally thought about it. But it would be difficult and time consuming to learn to replicate my results. tl;dr: I have no idea. -- Roger On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) noz...@gmail.com wrote: There are a number of RAW image format editing tools, but they all are fairly complex. My needs are usually simple -- I don't agree with the camera's white balance or want to salvage too light/dark images. My camera is the fairly recent Sony A65 (very similar to the A75). Does anyone have a recommendation for the 'best' one before I do a deep dive and learn all of them? The contenders: dcraw darkroom rawstudio rawtherapee ufraw (also the default tool used by gimp and f-spot) Thanks! -marc -- Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) http://www.nozell.com/blog ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Best RAW photo editing tool?
There are a number of RAW image format editing tools, but they all are fairly complex. My needs are usually simple -- I don't agree with the camera's white balance or want to salvage too light/dark images. My camera is the fairly recent Sony A65 (very similar to the A75). Does anyone have a recommendation for the 'best' one before I do a deep dive and learn all of them? The contenders: dcraw darkroom rawstudio rawtherapee ufraw (also the default tool used by gimp and f-spot) Thanks! -marc -- Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) http://www.nozell.com/blog ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
Hi Marc! -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) noz...@gmail.com wrote: dcraw darkroom rawstudio rawtherapee ufraw (also the default tool used by gimp and f-spot) Add one to the list. Fotoxx, which is my preferred tool for JPEG photo edits, now handles RAW file natively, no longer by just shelling out to ufrawdcraw. Caveat, since Mike avoids integer math overflow pixel problems by using FLOATs, so don't expect snappy performance on a limited machine with large RAWs ! With small files or big memory it's pretty snappy though, and just works -- more what do you want to accomplish and less how should it do it, like a complete set of PhotoShop / Gimp plugins, without the rest of PS/Gimp. I've tried all the above except rawstudio (I'll add that to my To Do list!). I will still sometimes do Raw 'developmet' in 'ufraw' when it needs significant exposure correction and save as TIFF16 and a resized TIFF16 or JPEG before finishing in Fotoxx. Sufficiently that I asked Mike to restore the Open-with-Ufraw option to Fotoxx. I've tried 'darktable' but haven't figured it out. I think it has workflow promise if I ever figure it out. For many purposes, RawTherapee would be better for RAW us, if I didn't have Fotoxx to do phase 2 in. Very nice selection of What do you want knobs instead of How To Mash Pixels knobs. I should use it more. 'dcraw' is what Fotoxx and likely everyone else uses for batch. Doesn't do resize-while-convert, alas. bill -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
I haven't touched RAW in 5+ years, but last time I did, I believe I came to the conclusion that rawstudio and ufraw were both okay, but one was slightly easier than the other. Unfortunately, I don't remember which was which! I was doing much the same as you, Marc, just a bit of white balance tweaking. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) noz...@gmail.com wrote: dcraw darkroom rawstudio rawtherapee ufraw (also the default tool used by gimp and f-spot) Add one to the list. Fotoxx, which is my preferred tool for JPEG photo edits, now handles RAW file natively, no longer by just shelling out to ufrawdcraw. Caveat, since Mike avoids integer math overflow pixel problems by using FLOATs, so don't expect snappy performance on a limited machine with large RAWs ! With small files or big memory it's pretty snappy though, and just works -- more what do you want to accomplish and less how should it do it, like a complete set of PhotoShop / Gimp plugins, without the rest of PS/Gimp. I've tried all the above except rawstudio (I'll add that to my To Do list!). I will still sometimes do Raw 'developmet' in 'ufraw' when it needs significant exposure correction and save as TIFF16 and a resized TIFF16 or JPEG before finishing in Fotoxx. Sufficiently that I asked Mike to restore the Open-with-Ufraw option to Fotoxx. I've tried 'darktable' but haven't figured it out. I think it has workflow promise if I ever figure it out. For many purposes, RawTherapee would be better for RAW us, if I didn't have Fotoxx to do phase 2 in. Very nice selection of What do you want knobs instead of How To Mash Pixels knobs. I should use it more. 'dcraw' is what Fotoxx and likely everyone else uses for batch. Doesn't do resize-while-convert, alas. bill -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Best RAW photo editing tool?
In one way, I wish I was just getting started in digital photography today rather than eight years ago. Now there are good free software choices. Back then, I fought a losing battle with ufraw to get the results I wanted from my Canon 20D. confession/When the non-free Adobe Lightroom version 1 came along in beta I tried it, fell in love, and never looked back. I haven't used much free software for my photography in a long time, except for an occasional smartphone app. I have a fairly complex workflow and it would be a huge inconvenience to start over, though I've occasionally thought about it. But it would be difficult and time consuming to learn to replicate my results. tl;dr: I have no idea. -- Roger On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) noz...@gmail.com wrote: There are a number of RAW image format editing tools, but they all are fairly complex. My needs are usually simple -- I don't agree with the camera's white balance or want to salvage too light/dark images. My camera is the fairly recent Sony A65 (very similar to the A75). Does anyone have a recommendation for the 'best' one before I do a deep dive and learn all of them? The contenders: dcraw darkroom rawstudio rawtherapee ufraw (also the default tool used by gimp and f-spot) Thanks! -marc -- Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com) http://www.nozell.com/blog ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
