Re: [OT] Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-20 Thread Paul Lussier
mike miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It was actually All people please to be getting off from street but the 
 accent is correct.

Actually, you're wrong, it was:

 Emergency! Everybody to get from street!

I know this due to my wife and her sisters quoting this movie for the
last 20+ years, and cross referenced it with imdb:

  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060921/quotes

Your line isn't referenced in this page, which doesn't mean it didn't
occur, just that the first definitely *was* in the movie :)
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under linux?

I use emacs with the muse and planner modules.  It's the most
extensible system I've found, allows me to link my schedule and todo
list with e-mail, and occasionally using w3m, visit referenced URLs.

If you want more information, feel free to ask, or visit the muse 
planner sections of http://www.emacs-wiki.org:

  http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/PlannerMode
  http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsMuse

Muse is the underlying framework (derived from emacs-wiki mode) planner uses.
You can use Muse without planner, but not the other way around.

Of course, being in emacs, everything is plain text, the down side is
that it doesn't sync with anything (which I haven't personnaly found
to be a hindrance, given that in the decade+ I've had a Palm-based
PDA, I've never cared to sync it anyway. But that's just me :)

I also usually carry around the HipsterPDA, but it's just the basic
version, I'm too lazy to deal with the more complex styles :)
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-14 Thread Tom Buskey
On 8/13/07, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  43folders is a good place to start.

 There's a side-wiki there that's excellent, and lots of other
 resources there too.
 http://www.google.com/search?q=43Folders

 [Not to be confused with 43Things which is list-sharing, rather
 different.]

 And then there's the hints site http://www.lifehacker.com/

 I have 43F, wiki.43F changes, and lifehacker in my RSS feedreader,
 plus Tom L (TM4SA author)'s O'Reilly blog
 [http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/feed/31?format=rss2au=2176].


I have those too ;-)  I really need to get Tom L's book.


Of course, if I really wanted to be time efficient, I probably
 wouldn't have Instructables, Make:Blog, Cool Tools, ToolMonger in the
 same folder ...


And those.

Another approach to planning is the Franklin-Covey stuff.  Covey did the 7
Habits books.  Frankly, I think GTD is a better fit for most people.
However, Franklin does life focus stuff.  It's all about figuring out what
your core values are and planning your goals, todos, tasks, etc to be in
line with them.   Going through the process is definitely worth it for
aligning your day to day with your values.
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-14 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 22:20 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote:
  Time Management for System Admins by Tom Limoncelli (O'Reilly),
  ISBN 0-596-00783-3 $24.95 and 200 pp, is the last of a long series of
  books I've used to help me get focused and organized.

http://www.librarything.com/work/340301book=8496532

AND it is in the library.  We should be able to get it into your hands
without too much difficulty.  (You'd be the first borrower, so you would
owe a review.)

 
 Excellent.  Can work for programmers too with adaptations.
 He gave several talks in N.E. a couple years ago, and a NJ group put
 his talk on the web as a Flash movie.

-- 
Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp

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Re: [OT] Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-14 Thread mike miller
It was actually All people please to be getting off from street but the 
accent is correct.

Mike
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Subject: [OT] Re: I've got to get organized.


 On 8/13/07, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! was
 when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT to get
 ORGANized!.

 Aside from the map-folding scene (no line), my favorite is
  Ev-er-y-one to get from Street
 with Boris Badenough accent.

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Re: [OT] Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-14 Thread Karl
And I believe it starts Engermancy, engermancy!  Strange the stuff we 
remember.

mike miller wrote:
 It was actually All people please to be getting off from street but the 
 accent is correct.

 Mike
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 From: Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: GNHLUG gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
 Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:18 PM
 Subject: [OT] Re: I've got to get organized.


   
 On 8/13/07, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! was
 when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT to get
 ORGANized!.
   
 Aside from the map-folding scene (no line), my favorite is
  Ev-er-y-one to get from Street
 with Boris Badenough accent.

 -- 
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I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! was 
when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT to get 
ORGANized!.

My situation at work is that I have a linux box on my desk with a window 
open onto a Windoze terminal server so I have access to outlook. The issue 
of my organizational abilities is becoming somewhat of a professional 
issue that my ADHD mind has long resisted. I was told that outlook is more 
than email and that it's a crackerjack tool for organizing as well. I 
don't run windose at home at all but they did give me a laptop to be able 
to connect into.

So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under linux?

-- 
Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have  .0.
happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0
Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000
individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question?
steveo at syslang.net
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Google calendar.  :-)

--DTVZ
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Tom Buskey
On 8/13/07, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! was
 when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT to get
 ORGANized!.

 My situation at work is that I have a linux box on my desk with a window
 open onto a Windoze terminal server so I have access to outlook. The issue
 of my organizational abilities is becoming somewhat of a professional
 issue that my ADHD mind has long resisted. I was told that outlook is more
 than email and that it's a crackerjack tool for organizing as well. I
 don't run windose at home at all but they did give me a laptop to be able
 to connect into.

 So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under linux?



I'd recommend looking at GTD (Getting Things Done) stuff for techniques
before you start looking at tools.
43folders http://www.43folders.com/ is a good place to start.
http://www.43folders.com/
I like my Palm which I can sync with any computer to backup.  I can run that
backup read only with an emulator on Linux/Windows/Macintosh if I lose/break
my device.  I can also still use the software I sync with.  Mainly I use it
for the calendar and contacts.  I sync at work with Exchange/Outlook.  I use
jpilot on Linux.

For my todos, I use postits on a whiteboard.  Easy and fast to write down,
rearrange, etc.  When I finish I can stick them in the done pile.

I try to carry a pen  notepad around with me all the time.  I could use the
Palm to take quick notes but the pad is faster, especially for temporary
notes.  I wish I could have the text digitally; you can't grep dead trees.
But at least I have it.  I try to put important notes/tips/etc in text files
for later.

The tools are not important, the techniques are.
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Travis Roy


On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Drew Van Zandt wrote:

 Google calendar.  :-)

Second for google calendar.

If you want a way to sync it with whatever you use locally check this  
out:

http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/index.html

I've been using it with Apple's iCal with great results.
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Ted Roche
Steven W. Orr wrote:

 
 So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under linux?
 

For me, It ain't the tool; it's the craftsman wielding it.

Time Management for System Admins by Tom Limoncelli (O'Reilly),
ISBN 0-596-00783-3 $24.95 and 200 pp, is the last of a long series of
books I've used to help me get focused and organized. Everyone seems to
have a system that works well for them. I use a paper Day-Runner;
batteries never run out, can use it in bright sunshine, travels easily,
works offline when broadband isn't available, interoperable with a great
many pens, pencils, sticky notes and crayons.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Ed lawson
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:58:27 -0400
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use a paper Day-Runner;
 batteries never run out, can use it in bright sunshine, travels
 easily, works offline when broadband isn't available, interoperable
 with a great many pens, pencils, sticky notes and crayons.
 


I like the little Moleskine notebooks which have an elastic to keep
closed.  As Ted says, there are many advantages to having something at
hand for taking notes and recording thoughts on paper.

-- 
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Larry Cook
Tom Buskey wrote:
 I'd recommend looking at GTD (Getting Things Done) stuff for techniques 
 before you start looking at tools.

I agree:

 http://www.davidco.com/what_is_gtd.php

I also recommend David Allen's book:

 http://davidco.com/store/product.php?productid=16182

Regarding tools, I use the following:

- Sunbird to remind of meetings and appointments while at work.
- A paper wall calendar for meetings and appointments while at home.
- Thunderbird folders and tags to track things that need future action.
- A wiki for long-term TODO/WishList.
- The occasional paper TODO list for short-term actions.

Larry
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Monday 13 August 2007 09:17, Steven W. Orr wrote:
 A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming!
 was when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT
 to get ORGANized!.
 So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under
 linux?

My needs have been crafted to be quite different from those of most 
people, but some parts may be of use.

The best personal information manager I ever had was SideKick for 
Win3.3/95.  It came with the WordPerfect office suite.  (The later 
SideKick versions stunk.)  I have been trying to piece together the 
functionality I miss from Linux utilities (mostly KDE).

For regular warnings, such as Its Monday, pay the bills or Only 
one week until wife's birthday or MerriLUG notice due, I use Kalarm.  
It pops up on screen.

For ToDo lists, I find Knotes easiest to use.  Two lists serve my 
purposes best, personal and company.  The entries are numbered in 
sequence (forever): ###. and ###).  Click in the date when ToDo added.  
Transfer (drag) the item to KOrganizer Journal when done.

KOrganizer has been getting better over the years, but still doesn't 
fit all my needs.  The ToDo facility is fair, but I like the 
informality of Knotes better.  Knotes is much closer to scribbling a 
list on paper.

I don't bill by the hour, but keeping track of whose job I am 
working on is important for long term records and bidding estimates.  A 
recurring one hour meeting in KOrganizer serves as a marker and shows 
up nicely on the monthly calendar.  The KOrganizer format accommodates 
job keyword, contacts, description, etc.  The hour of the day doesn't 
matter; I just put the first at 8AM, second at 9AM, etc.  I rarely work 
on more than 2 tasks at a time.

The recurrence for this misused one-hour entry is set to 
indefinite.  I enter skipped days or terminate the task as 
appropriate.

What about telephone calls?  Hate them.  I insist on email.  There 
is no record of what was said on the telephone.  The parties can come 
away with completely different impressions of what was agreed.  Email, 
FAX, or real letters solves that problem.  

Meetings?  Hate them.  For year I have been stubbornly refusing to 
travel.  If people feel it in absolutely necessary to talk in person, 
they are welcome to visit.

Coordinating meetings?  The few meetings that I am willing to attend 
certainly won't start without me, so I let the rest of them worry about 
schedules and conflicts.

* * * * * *

For those who are wondering what such a grouch does for a living, I 
do fixed-price instrumentation design and product design.  Since nobody 
else (that I have heard of) takes on the fixed-price risk, I can call 
the shots.

When my career started, I quickly found that being a slave to the 
telephone, meetings, or the calendar destroyed my productivity.  I need 
uninterrupted time to get into things deeply enough to do my best work.  
You might be the same.  If so, free yourself of all unnecessary 
communications.  And yes, stay very, very organized.

Jim Kuzdrall
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Aug 13, 2007, at 09:17, Steven W. Orr wrote:

 So after that prep work, what do people use to keep organized under  
 linux?

I'm leaning heavily into emacs with a series of 'todo' files - just  
plain text.  ctrl-s (search) lets me jump around in them.

I'm just getting into GTD, but so far the best idea is to keep all of  
your stuff in one place.  I recently renamed my 700-item InBox  
'__DMZ', which I'm slowly going though, but the idea is to 'stop  
sucking'.  Since then, I've committed to keeping my InBox empty every  
day, as often as possible.  If there's something I need to do, it  
goes onto the todo list, not sitting in the inbox.  That way it's in  
the same place as everything else.

I got a Fujutsu ScanSnap scanner to scan all my paper into one place  
for processing.  So far, that world and the todo list aren't merged,  
but I hope they might be some day.  I've used a Moleskine pad for a  
year and a half, but I've been historically bad about offloading its  
contents onto the todo.  Another place I need to 'stop sucking'.

The 43folders guy gave a techtalk @Google on 'inbox zero' that was  
worth watching.

The best thing is to use the system that you'll actually use.   
Anything else is just a waste of time.

-Bill

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[OT] Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill Ricker
On 8/13/07, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A great line from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! was
 when Fendall Hawkins (played by Paul Ford) was yelling We've GOT to get
 ORGANized!.

Aside from the map-folding scene (no line), my favorite is
  Ev-er-y-one to get from Street
with Boris Badenough accent.

-- 
Bill
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill Ricker
 Time Management for System Admins by Tom Limoncelli (O'Reilly),
 ISBN 0-596-00783-3 $24.95 and 200 pp, is the last of a long series of
 books I've used to help me get focused and organized.

Excellent.  Can work for programmers too with adaptations.
He gave several talks in N.E. a couple years ago, and a NJ group put
his talk on the web as a Flash movie.

-- 
Bill
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill Ricker
 Time Management for System Admins by Tom Limoncelli (O'Reilly),
 ISBN 0-596-00783-3 $24.95 and 200 pp, is the last of a long series of

Voted LOPSA's (first ever) Book of the Month
http://www.oreillynet.com/sysadmin/blog/2005/12/lopsa_book_of_the_month_time_m.html

Author's Wiki for the book
http://wiki.everythingsysadmin.com/twiki/bin/view/TM2SA/WebHome

Website for his other prizewinning
[http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8679] book is
http://www.everythingsysadmin.com/

My notes on mixing Outlook/Exchange (required for group scheduling at
my $DayJob office) and a 3-ring half-sheet (Classic) binder
 http://www.diyplanner.com/node/1016
at the website that lets you download MODIFIABLE PDF's to make your
own forms (in variety of sheet sizes and formats)
 http://www.diyplanner.com/

BTW, even Tom will tell you that David Allen's GTD book is worth
reading too, but if you're a techie, you'll find Tom's interpretation
closer to your life than the mid-mgt/exec view of Allen's books.

-- 
Bill
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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill Ricker
 I like the little Moleskine notebooks which have an elastic to keep
 closed.  As Ted says, there are many advantages to having something at
 hand for taking notes and recording thoughts on paper.

Moleskines or any other leather-bound, archival acid-free paper
notebooks are great for notes or sketches I'm going to keep forever.
There's always a reporters-flip smallest moleskin in my vest if my
formal notebook (either Dayrunner type for business or large archival
for fun) isn't with me. But for day/week/month calendars that I'm
going to file and maybe never look at again, sewn signatures isn't
what I want. YMMV.

Thanks to the 43F Wiki's Pens that work with Moleskines pages, I
found the Lamy Safari, a fountain pen with very smooth extra-fine nib
that works well on smaller pages of nice paper, like Moleskines or
Classic or Junior notebooks. I'm glad my office stocks good
quality paper in the printers. [See other post in thread for how I
print my own diary pages.]

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Re: I've got to get organized.

2007-08-13 Thread Bill Ricker
 43folders is a good place to start.

There's a side-wiki there that's excellent, and lots of other
resources there too.
http://www.google.com/search?q=43Folders

[Not to be confused with 43Things which is list-sharing, rather different.]

And then there's the hints site http://www.lifehacker.com/

I have 43F, wiki.43F changes, and lifehacker in my RSS feedreader,
plus Tom L (TM4SA author)'s O'Reilly blog
[http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/feed/31?format=rss2au=2176].

Of course, if I really wanted to be time efficient, I probably
wouldn't have Instructables, Make:Blog, Cool Tools, ToolMonger in the
same folder ...

-- 
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