Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
At the time that I had the Zaurus there weren't many smartphones out there, and the ones that were were VERY expensive. I currently have a Treo and loved it and I stand by my comment that a phone with PDA is better. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My old Zaurus, while not having phone function ... > ^^^ > > You once gave me a fair bit of grief, in this very forum, because I > stated I preferred a separate handheld computer and phone. You argued > a device which combined phone and PDA would be much better, for the > convenience of having both in one. I think that's the point here, > too. :) > > (I'm just saying. They can have my 6-year-old, PalmOS-based, Clie > PEG-TG50 when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.) > > -- Ben > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- Travis Roy ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My old Zaurus, while not having phone function ... ^^^ You once gave me a fair bit of grief, in this very forum, because I stated I preferred a separate handheld computer and phone. You argued a device which combined phone and PDA would be much better, for the convenience of having both in one. I think that's the point here, too. :) (I'm just saying. They can have my 6-year-old, PalmOS-based, Clie PEG-TG50 when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
The Openmoko FreeRunner is being sold as a "developer" release at this point. People that expect a polished, complete distribution are going to be disappointed. There are several stacks of software available for the phone, all of them able to be flashed into the phone, and there are some that are on their way. People comparing the software to the iPhone are, by this very definition, going to be disappointed. On the other hand, developers who want a truly open platform to develop some great applications on should have what they need. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
On Monday 21 July 2008 13:19, Travis Roy wrote: > If you look at that link there is a link to Trainwreck 2.. He used the > QT interface there.. This second video he was just stretching for. He complained it didn't play MP3s, only Ogg. It's free software. Neither can my desktop and laptop, running Debian, at least not out of the box. He complained that it didn't autocomplete text he was typing in with proper nouns. And why is he using a retracted pen instead of the stylus it comes with? In the first video, he complained about not being able to tap at the edge of the screen, but his pointed is 2-3 times as wide as a stylus. Ultimately, this guy is clearly trying to make it look worse than his iPhone, as if they were aimed at the same demographic. The way this guy words a number of things makes it clear that he's pretty happy to rant about whatever. He showed disdain for open source in his voiced comments about the calculator and he seems really enthralled with the loop on it, which doesn't seem like a problem to me and may help the mic pickup the speakers voice better I imagine. Ultimately, this video didn't have any real complaints in it and leads me to think the qt one interface will be much nicer when I get to play with it. > Also not impressed. My old Zaurus, while not having phone function > seemed much better and run much faster and smoother, and that was like > 8 years ago. And I can do more on my Treo 650 than any other phone out there now. What's your point? The Freerunner seems to be the only thing that I can imagine giving me more functionality than my Treo. Your Zaurus didn't do Bluetooth (and as you said, no phone) and my Treo barely does Bluetooth too. Neither has GPS or a high resolution screen like this. I'm anxious to see what can be done with this as a hardware platform - the software will get better, especially as they start to put more of these phones out there. They are not for the mainstream to be sure. Those people can buy iPhones and seem happy enough with them so far. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
If you look at that link there is a link to Trainwreck 2.. He used the QT interface there.. Also not impressed. My old Zaurus, while not having phone function seemed much better and run much faster and smoother, and that was like 8 years ago. I'll admit that it's a neat toy but it has way to many issues. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Neil Joseph Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, the software that comes on it is pretty dated unfortunately, but > flashing it seems pretty easy. It's not too polished yet, but I think > there's a tremendous potential. To say the least, I'll need to play some > later on and get the newer qt-based interface on it I think. > -N > > On Monday 21 July 2008 12:59, Travis Roy wrote: >> I saw some of the first videos of it and I was very unimpressed: >> >> http://www.vimeo.com/1366042?pg=embed&sec=1366042 >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Neil Joseph Schelly >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I just took delivery of my new OpenMoko Freerunner and thought I'd share. >> > I'm really excited to play with it, but alas, I still have to complete >> > my workday. >> > -N >> > ___ >> > gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- Travis Roy ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
Yeah, the software that comes on it is pretty dated unfortunately, but flashing it seems pretty easy. It's not too polished yet, but I think there's a tremendous potential. To say the least, I'll need to play some later on and get the newer qt-based interface on it I think. -N On Monday 21 July 2008 12:59, Travis Roy wrote: > I saw some of the first videos of it and I was very unimpressed: > > http://www.vimeo.com/1366042?pg=embed&sec=1366042 > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Neil Joseph Schelly > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just took delivery of my new OpenMoko Freerunner and thought I'd share. > > I'm really excited to play with it, but alas, I still have to complete > > my workday. > > -N > > ___ > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OpenMoko Freerunner
I saw some of the first videos of it and I was very unimpressed: http://www.vimeo.com/1366042?pg=embed&sec=1366042 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Neil Joseph Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just took delivery of my new OpenMoko Freerunner and thought I'd share. I'm > really excited to play with it, but alas, I still have to complete my > workday. > -N > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- Travis Roy ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
OpenMoko Freerunner
I just took delivery of my new OpenMoko Freerunner and thought I'd share. I'm really excited to play with it, but alas, I still have to complete my workday. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
