Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
On 2/8/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, looks like I'll be doing not one, but 2 Intro to Drupal presentations. In April in Peterborough, and in May in Concord. And when are you going to do Nashua, hmmm? They've got the best on-site food and beer of any GNHLUG meeting. (Also the only on-site food and beer, but it's still pretty good.) BTW, cool domain name. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
If the first 2 go really well, and there is a demand, Nashua can be next. On 2/9/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when are you going to do Nashua, hmmm? They've got the best on-site food and beer of any GNHLUG meeting. (Also the only on-site food and beer, but it's still pretty good.) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Paul Lussier wrote: I would love a follow-up posting of this meeting. I'll try to take good notes. I've been looking at WordPress over the past week and playing around with it on my laptop (If anyone has a Mac, and you want to play with LAMP stuff, get MAMP!) I converted my blog to WordPress a while ago. Seems like a pretty solid project. But it is blog-specific software and not as flexible as a general-purpose CMS. I've been fairly impressed so far, but also planned on looking at Joomla! (with, imo, has a cooler name just because it sounds rather silly :) You might look at http://www.cmsmatrix.org for comparisons between the different CMSes. However, I'll warn you in advance: it's seems like most of them have everything including the kitchen sink. It may be more useful to visit the forums of the leading contenders, get a sense of the tone of the community, try out the demos, etc. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I converted my blog to WordPress a while ago. Seems like a pretty solid project. But it is blog-specific software and not as flexible as a general-purpose CMS. Can you define the difference then between what Joomla! can do that WordPress can't? From what I can tell, WP has plugins available to do damn near everything. I've been fairly impressed so far, but also planned on looking at Joomla! (with, imo, has a cooler name just because it sounds rather silly :) You might look at http://www.cmsmatrix.org for comparisons between the different CMSes. However, I'll warn you in advance: it's seems like most of them have everything including the kitchen sink. It may be more useful to visit the forums of the leading contenders, get a sense of the tone of the community, try out the demos, etc. I did a comparison between Joomla! and WP and they looked fairly equal with extremely minor exceptions. Perhaps I missed something. As I said, I've been poking at WP for less than a week and was also planning on poking at Joomla! in a similar way. One thing I *really* liked about Joomla! was the downloadable user manual available in PDF. It makes for reading about it much easier when you're on the train :) -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: Can you define the difference then between what Joomla! can do that WordPress can't? From what I can tell, WP has plugins available to do damn near everything. Nope, I can't. I set up WordPress as a single-user blog and haven't explored much in the way of plugins. I haven't worked with Joomla! only seen the demos, I did a comparison between Joomla! and WP and they looked fairly equal with extremely minor exceptions. Perhaps I missed something. As I said, I've been poking at WP for less than a week and was also planning on poking at Joomla! in a similar way. Considering the low cost of acquisition and installation, I think that's the right way to go. Test drive. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
Can you define the difference then between what Joomla! can do that WordPress can't? From what I can tell, WP has plugins available to do damn near everything. While Wordpress can do a lot, at the end of the day, it's a blog, not a CMS. If your goal is blogging first, and other items secondary, it'll do the job most likely. I've been fairly impressed so far, but also planned on looking at Joomla! (with, imo, has a cooler name just because it sounds rather silly :) Drupal. Xaraya, Mambo (now Joomla). All of these names are silly. I did a comparison between Joomla! and WP and they looked fairly equal with extremely minor exceptions. Perhaps I missed something. As I said, I've been poking at WP for less than a week and was also planning on poking at Joomla! in a similar way. Joomla's pretty. It's also easy to use, and gets a lot of newbie attention as a result. But (IMHO) the backend is very much 'separate'. Install a new function, and there is no guarantee the new functionality will mesh with the old. It's like running multiple programs that don't (always) talk to each other. (nothing against Joomla, btw, plenty of older CMSes were the same way. I hated coding for Postnuke (now Xaraya) for that reason. Take a look at (and install) Drupal 5.0. Drupal's now 6 years old, and very mature, very easy to use, and unlike the above, it's _very_ much built from the ground up in a modular manner. Its' motto is 'community plumbing', in part because of the tinkertoy manner in which you can connect pieces together. Want your blog entries to have event calendaring? Ok. Now want to add geolocation and a map? Ok. What, you want voting and promoting the best stuff to the front page, troll and spam protection, group permissions, e-commerce, image galleries, ajaxian coolness, and 50 other things? Ok. And for the most part, they all talk/interact together... and if you want it simple, you can do that too... One thing I *really* liked about Joomla! was the downloadable user manual available in PDF. It makes for reading about it much easier when you're on the train :) There are books (including PDFs) on all of the better CMSes. Professional bound (or pdf) books on Drupal exist (and I recommend them) but they aren't needed, as there is a nice handbook online as well as a strong community of users. Local sites running drupal you might have visited lately, and the people behind them... http://nhpr.org (running a very custom version I think at this point) coded by a local Drupal whiz Morbus Iff ( http://www.disobey.com ) Haven't met him, though we've emailed once or twice. http://www.concordspca.org coded by http://carnevaledesign.com Never met them. http://democracyfornewhampshire.com don't recall who is webmastering this now, but it's running Civicspace (a Drupal repackaging) and is a bit aged now. and on the other side of the fence, http://nhliberty.org which I _used_ to webmaster, running a slightly newer CivicSpace version. I'll volunteer right now to do a Drupal introduction at a upcoming Concord GNHlug meeting, if someone will schedule it. Seth (who spend many of his days doing Drupal developing) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Seth Cohn wrote: I'll volunteer right now to do a Drupal introduction at a upcoming Concord GNHlug meeting, if someone will schedule it. How's May 7th or June 4th work for you? Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: CMS comparison [ was: Web software for a family web site? ]
I'll volunteer right now to do a Drupal introduction at a upcoming Concord GNHlug meeting, if someone will schedule it. Ok, looks like I'll be doing not one, but 2 Intro to Drupal presentations. In April in Peterborough, and in May in Concord. Ah, the joys of offering to do a presentation... I knew there was a reason I didn't do this too often. (grin) BTW, occasionally there is a regular Drupal meetup in Boston... http://groups.drupal.org/boston I haven't been (but wouldn't mind sharing a drive with someone) and if we find enough interest, maybe we can do something in NH ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
