Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Python
Do you think it could be drive specific?  Either the drive or the media
are out of spec?  Can the drive really read the problem CDs?

dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null count=200

This should report an error if there is a problem reading the media.  If
this works, then the CD is getting read and I do not know what to
suggest.

On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:09 -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote:
> Hi all - I have a little bit of an odd situation I was hoping somebody
> might be able to shed some light on.
> 
> Somebody has asked me to take a machine with a 300+GB hard drive, and
> install 5 or 6 different distributions of linux on it for them.  The
> idea is that they want to play with the different version for a while
> before picking one.
> 
> The hard drive is the master on IDE0, and the CD drive is the master on
> IDE1.
> 
> Here's the odd part.
> 
> Certain distributions' install CDs won't boot.  I can boot Ubuntu (both
> live and install CDs), I can boot Knoppix, but I cannot boot either
> Fedora Core 4 or CentOS 4.1.  When I put them in, the boot process just
> acts as though there isn't even a CD in the drive.  
> 
> I'm reasonably certain that both CDs are good - I used them just a
> couple days ago.  
> 
> It's not boot order in the BIOS - I have that set to use the CD drive
> first.
> 
> Anybody have any thoughts?  I'm more than happy to provide any required
> information that I didn't post here...
> 
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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Friday 16 September 2005 10:09 am, Cole Tuininga wrote:
> I'm reasonably certain that both CDs are good - I used them just a
> couple days ago.

Long shot:

   I had a fan stop that I didn't notice.  The lasers in two CDROMs 
overheated leading to deteriorating output.  The behavior was similar 
to what you describe.  Some CD would read, others would not, but all 
check good on an independent system.

   Swapping the CD drive is fairly quick and it would eliminate at least 
that possibility.

Jim Kuzdrall
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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:59 -0400, Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
> Long shot:
> 
>I had a fan stop that I didn't notice.  The lasers in two CDROMs 
> overheated leading to deteriorating output.  The behavior was similar 
> to what you describe.  Some CD would read, others would not, but all 
> check good on an independent system.
> 
>Swapping the CD drive is fairly quick and it would eliminate at least 
> that possibility.

In talking with the person who provided me the system, this may not be
far off track.  They are telling me that the drive is old enough that
they sometimes have trouble with CD-Rs, etc.  Yeah - I think it may be
time to retire that drive.  ;)


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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Frank DiPrete
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:09 -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote:
> Hi all - I have a little bit of an odd situation I was hoping somebody
> might be able to shed some light on.
> 
> Somebody has asked me to take a machine with a 300+GB hard drive, and
> install 5 or 6 different distributions of linux on it for them.  The
> idea is that they want to play with the different version for a while
> before picking one.
> 
> The hard drive is the master on IDE0, and the CD drive is the master on
> IDE1.
> 
> Here's the odd part.
> 
> Certain distributions' install CDs won't boot.  I can boot Ubuntu (both
> live and install CDs), I can boot Knoppix, but I cannot boot either
> Fedora Core 4 or CentOS 4.1.  When I put them in, the boot process just
> acts as though there isn't even a CD in the drive.  
> 
> I'm reasonably certain that both CDs are good - I used them just a
> couple days ago.  
> 
> It's not boot order in the BIOS - I have that set to use the CD drive
> first.
> 
> Anybody have any thoughts?  I'm more than happy to provide any required
> information that I didn't post here...
> 

I've run into this sort of thing before and used loadlin as a work
around. make a boot floppy (dos-ish) with the cdrom driver and mscdex,
then use a 2nd floppy with loadlin on it to load the install kernel from
the cdrom. Be sure to use loadlin version 1.6c as it supports larger
kernels.

ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/update-1.6c/

I've used this to install fedora on a machine with a non bootable scsi
cdrom drive. works like a charm.



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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 12:00 -0400, Frank DiPrete wrote:
> I've used this to install fedora on a machine with a non bootable scsi
> cdrom drive. works like a charm.

I believe it ... unfortunately this machine has no floppy drive.  8)

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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Frank DiPrete


On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 12:00 -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 12:00 -0400, Frank DiPrete wrote:
> > I've used this to install fedora on a machine with a non bootable scsi
> > cdrom drive. works like a charm.
> 
> I believe it ... unfortunately this machine has no floppy drive.  8)
> 


heh. it's always something.
I guess you can swap out the cdrom or bring a floppy drive with you.

good luck


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Re: Certain distros not booting?

2005-09-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
Do you think it could be drive specific?  Either the drive or the media
are out of spec?  Can the drive really read the problem CDs?

dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null count=200

This should report an error if there is a problem reading the media.  If
this works, then the CD is getting read and I do not know what to
suggest.

On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:09 -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote:
> Hi all - I have a little bit of an odd situation I was hoping somebody
> might be able to shed some light on.
> 
> Somebody has asked me to take a machine with a 300+GB hard drive, and
> install 5 or 6 different distributions of linux on it for them.  The
> idea is that they want to play with the different version for a while
> before picking one.
> 
> The hard drive is the master on IDE0, and the CD drive is the master on
> IDE1.
> 
> Here's the odd part.
> 
> Certain distributions' install CDs won't boot.  I can boot Ubuntu (both
> live and install CDs), I can boot Knoppix, but I cannot boot either
> Fedora Core 4 or CentOS 4.1.  When I put them in, the boot process just
> acts as though there isn't even a CD in the drive.  
> 
> I'm reasonably certain that both CDs are good - I used them just a
> couple days ago.  
> 
> It's not boot order in the BIOS - I have that set to use the CD drive
> first.
> 
> Anybody have any thoughts?  I'm more than happy to provide any required
> information that I didn't post here...
> 
-- 
Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp.
1 Court Street, Suite 378
Lebanon, NH 03766-1358

voice:  603-653-8139
fax:320-210-3409

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