Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-05-01 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 04/27/2013 08:06 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
  dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb or whatever it
  was, USB3.
 
  6 days later

You might have just run out of entropy on the PRNG.  That and small 
writes will kill you.  Try:

   dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX bs=2M

next time.  It should finish in several hours.  A 20TB ZFS array will be 
done in less than a day (the compression ratio is wonderful with 
/dev/zero...).  That and a scrub will let you know which disks got 
dropping in shipping.

-Bill

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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Buskey
ZFS added RAIDZ3 (triple parity) was because the likelihood of hitting
another error before a resilver finishes is likely with  3TB and current
ECC on drives today.

If you're using 4 TB drives, you should be using double parity (RAID6 or 3
way mirrors).




On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Michael ODonnell 
michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote:



 Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
 array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
 routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
 they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...

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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Michael ODonnell


Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...
 
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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Curt Howland
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On Saturday 27 April 2013, Michael ODonnell was heard to say:
 Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
 array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
 routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
 they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...

When I bought a 1TB external drive and decided to encrypt it, I wanted 
to randomize if first, dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb or whatever it 
was, USB3.

6 days later I made the mistake of playing a SpaceRip youtube video in 
full screen, and Flash locked up the box. The randomizing still 
wasn't done, but I gave up on that and encrypted the drive anyway.

Yes, TerraByte drives are, as was said to Cyrano DeBergerac, Rather 
Large.

- -- 
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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Bruce Dawson

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I remember back when the Digital TurboLaser systems came out. At the
time they were enormous, and my job was to develop testing tools for
them. Management just about fell off their chairs when I told them it
would take a *week* (running 24x7) just to create a 1 TB file with
random data (as in RND(0)) for testing. And a little under 2 weeks to
create 1 million 1K files with random data for testing.

- --Bruce

On 04/27/2013 08:06 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
 On Saturday 27 April 2013, Michael ODonnell was heard to say:
  Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
  array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
  routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
  they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...

 When I bought a 1TB external drive and decided to encrypt it, I wanted
 to randomize if first, dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb or whatever it
 was, USB3.

 6 days later I made the mistake of playing a SpaceRip youtube video in
 full screen, and Flash locked up the box. The randomizing still
 wasn't done, but I gave up on that and encrypted the drive anyway.

 Yes, TerraByte drives are, as was said to Cyrano DeBergerac, Rather
 Large.



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