Re: VoIP software
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 19:17 -0500, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:11, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: You need an FXO card of some sort to plug your phone line into. You can buy a single port FXO card from Digium (Wildcard X100P) for $100... Then, you need IP phones. You can get Grandstream Budgetones for about $65, or you can spend $600 on a Cisco :-) Is there a card you can use to plug your existing phone 'network' into? At this point I just want Asterisk for doing voicemail and auto-attendant, so no need for VOIP phones, per se, just two POTS lines in the house. Yes, you need an FXS card. You can get the TDM400P from Digium (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_tdm400p2). It is a 4-port card that can have either FXS or FXO modules on it. I know several people that have the tdm400p with 3 FXS modules and one FXO module. That allows them to connect the card to the PSTN as well as their existing phones. Another idea that I have seen used in a few places is that rather than use FXS modules, you can get an IAD that turns your regular analog phone into an IP phone. You can get a Cisco ATA-186 for about $120 (or other various brands for a lot less. Search froogle for IAD). Rather then plugging just one phone into it, you can plug in the base system of an expandable phone system (i.e. one base, 5 handsets). Since all of the handsets communicate back to the base, the base is the only one that needs to be IP. HTH, Kenny signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VoIP software
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 10:45:21AM -0500, Travis Roy wrote: I just wanted to let everybody know about www.skype.com. It's a neat VoIP program that lets you do free computer - computer calls, and has cheap rates if you call a real phone line. They have versions for Windows, OS X, and Linux. I tried it out with a friend of mine last night (me on windows and him on his linux box). Worked great. Yep; proprietary VoIP software from the people who helped put spyware and other malware into Kazaa and other apps. The app itself is nice, but I really am not a big fan of the people it's coming from. -- Christopher Schmidt pgp7WcAU6HDdh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VoIP software
I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Travis Roy wrote: I just wanted to let everybody know about www.skype.com. It's a neat VoIP program that lets you do free computer - computer calls, and has cheap rates if you call a real phone line. They have versions for Windows, OS X, and Linux. I tried it out with a friend of mine last night (me on windows and him on his linux box). Worked great. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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I'm just starting to use Broadvoice.com's BYOP (Bring your own phone) and linphone. So far, it seems to work pretty well. I'll let you know if I still like it afte I've had a chance to use it a bit more. Brian -- --- | [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.hirebrian.net | |Simply the Best IT/MIS Manager | | Self-taught, Fast Learner, and Team Player | |Ready to Start TODAY at Your Company.| --- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: VoIP software
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 10:55, Ed Robbins wrote: I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... I've been looking more and more at asterisk. Not having *any* experience with phone related stuff, it's a little intimidating but it seems like there's a lot of documentation out there. One question I'd have for you, Ed, is what kind of financial investment did you have to put into hardware for this (if you don't mind my asking)? -- Minix is one of the reasons I decided microkernels are bad. VMS is the reason I decided VMS is bad. -Linus Torvalds Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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Ed, I called the USA from Brazil last week and talked for 1/2 hour. Used an IAXy analog-phone to VoIP box from Digium.com and the Nufone.net service. The IAX protocol (supported by Asterisk) can go through firewalls and NAT translations. You just hook the box up to an Ethernet that has DHCP service and an analog telephone, then plug in the power. About twenty seconds later you have a connection to the service provider. The 1/2 hour call from Brazil to the USA cost me 73 cents. I even let some of the Brazilians call their relatives in Canada. It was so cheap, why not? Pretty cool. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:55:46 -0500 (EST) Ed Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... Sounds like a great meeting presentation topic to me! Ed Lawson ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... Sounds like a great meeting presentation topic to me! I agree, looks cool. It also looks a bit much for the average home computer user. :) I just pointed out Skype because it's extreamly easy to use and is cross platform. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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That's what I like about the IAX protocol, it's NAT friendly and perfect for what Im using it for. The hardware is fairly cheap as well. I bought a Digium x100p card that I hooked up my incoming line to so callers coming in come into asterisk and then can ring extensions, check vmail, etc. Overall it's a very cool piece of software and that's after spending the past 10 years developing call center software and knowing what's involved in it. The asterisk group really has a brillant project. Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Jon maddog Hall wrote: Ed, I called the USA from Brazil last week and talked for 1/2 hour. Used an IAXy analog-phone to VoIP box from Digium.com and the Nufone.net service. The IAX protocol (supported by Asterisk) can go through firewalls and NAT translations. You just hook the box up to an Ethernet that has DHCP service and an analog telephone, then plug in the power. About twenty seconds later you have a connection to the service provider. The 1/2 hour call from Brazil to the USA cost me 73 cents. I even let some of the Brazilians call their relatives in Canada. It was so cheap, why not? Pretty cool. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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You don't have to put any money into it. Check out some of the soft phones from Xten or sipphone. I actually bought a SIP phone for $89 just so the wife wouldn't have to talk with a headset. That's all I needed to do the asterisk to asterisk comm. I spent $100 to buy a card to hook up an outside line, but I would recommend spending $130 for the next higher version. Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Cole Tuininga wrote: On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 10:55, Ed Robbins wrote: I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... I've been looking more and more at asterisk. Not having *any* experience with phone related stuff, it's a little intimidating but it seems like there's a lot of documentation out there. One question I'd have for you, Ed, is what kind of financial investment did you have to put into hardware for this (if you don't mind my asking)? -- Minix is one of the reasons I decided microkernels are bad. VMS is the reason I decided VMS is bad. -Linus Torvalds Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: VoIP software
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 11:35 -0500, Cole Tuininga wrote: I've been looking more and more at asterisk. Not having *any* experience with phone related stuff, it's a little intimidating but it seems like there's a lot of documentation out there. One question I'd have for you, Ed, is what kind of financial investment did you have to put into hardware for this (if you don't mind my asking)? Financial investment to build an asterisk box for home is very low. You need a PC running Linux, so that can cost anywhere from $0 (any old PC laying around) to $500 (if you really want to go all out!!). You need an FXO card of some sort to plug your phone line into. You can buy a single port FXO card from Digium (Wildcard X100P) for $100. You don't have to spend the $100 for the Digium card, though. You can get a modem using a particular chipset that is compatible with the zaptel drivers that Asterisk uses for about $10 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp? description=25-180-004DEPA=0) That takes care of the server itself. Then, you need IP phones. You can get Grandstream Budgetones for about $65, or you can spend $600 on a Cisco :-) So, the cost can break out like this (assuming 3 phones): PartLow End HighEnd === === PC $0 $500 FXO Card$10 $100 Phone $65 $600 Phone $65 $600 Phone $65 $600 === === Total $205$2400 So, it can cost about anywhere from $205 - $2400. Of course, there are many different ways that your end goal can be achieved, so the pricing may vary. You can also do without IP phones and use analog phones with either IP IADs or FXS ports in the asterisk box. HTH, Kenny -- Kenneth E. Lussier Sr. Systems Administrator Sentito Networks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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I'd be happy to do a meeting if we can schedule it around my visits to New England. Or perhaps I could do a presentation via an Asterisk conference! :-) Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Ed Lawson wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:55:46 -0500 (EST) Ed Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... Sounds like a great meeting presentation topic to me! Ed Lawson ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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If you want to see some cool voip hardware checkout some of the wireless voip phones. It's a SIP phone that is 802.11x aware, x being b or g I don't remember. So think about it, you're on the road and in a hotel room with wireless access or in a coffee shop with Wi-Fi and you can hop on the network and make voip calls. Supposedly there are cell phones coming out in the not too distant future that will also have this capability. Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Travis Roy wrote: I've been playing around with VoIP a lot lately. If you want to see some cool stuff, check out asterisk. www.asterisk.org I'm doing IAX2 calls from my house in NH to were I'm staying now in AZ. I bought a couple of SIP phones and had it setup in no time. When I come back for Thanksgiving, I'll have a full blown PBX running at my house with autoattendant, voicemail, etc... Sounds like a great meeting presentation topic to me! I agree, looks cool. It also looks a bit much for the average home computer user. :) I just pointed out Skype because it's extreamly easy to use and is cross platform. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: VoIP software
On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:11, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: You need an FXO card of some sort to plug your phone line into. You can buy a single port FXO card from Digium (Wildcard X100P) for $100... Then, you need IP phones. You can get Grandstream Budgetones for about $65, or you can spend $600 on a Cisco :-) Is there a card you can use to plug your existing phone 'network' into? At this point I just want Asterisk for doing voicemail and auto-attendant, so no need for VOIP phones, per se, just two POTS lines in the house. -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: wpmcgonigleSkype: bill_mcgonigle ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: VoIP software
That's what an FXS port is for, it provides dial tone and other functions that a CO would provide. I don't know if you could plug your entire phone 'network' into it or not. You might try asking or searching the asterisk-users mailing list, it's a very active list. Ed On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:11, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: You need an FXO card of some sort to plug your phone line into. You can buy a single port FXO card from Digium (Wildcard X100P) for $100... Then, you need IP phones. You can get Grandstream Budgetones for about $65, or you can spend $600 on a Cisco :-) Is there a card you can use to plug your existing phone 'network' into? At this point I just want Asterisk for doing voicemail and auto-attendant, so no need for VOIP phones, per se, just two POTS lines in the house. -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: wpmcgonigleSkype: bill_mcgonigle ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
