Re: Somewhat OT: Information Wave bans RIAA
In a message dated: 19 Aug 2002 18:22:20 EDT Ryan T. McCarthy said: If you want the whole internet experience, I take it you don't filter spam. You are paying for access to it, after all. There is a huge difference between *me* choosing to filter spam and someone else *telling* me it won't allow it to come through to me. I don't disagree that connecting to the RIAA website could be considered a security issue, and I don't deny that the RIAA are an intrisically and inherently evil organization that doesn't care one whit about anyone else other than themselves and their own profits. However, I should have the choice to visit any site I want if I'm paying for internet access. I don't see anyone blacklisting web sites which launch 5000 pop-up ads, which could also be considered a security risk. The ISP deciding to block sites for my safety is the same as the gov't dictating I shall wear a seatbelt in *my* car, or that I can't smoke the plant leaf of my choice in *my* house. From a security perspective, I fully agree that the RIAA website probably shouldn't be visited. From a freedom of choice perspective, I fully believe that I should at least *have* the choice. If I were an IWT customer, I'd probably switch. Of course, it would also depend upon how good their service was, and whether or not they had previously pissed me off. As I've stated, I've never visited the RIAA website before, nor am I likely to in the future, so, this one move might not provoke me to switch my ISP. However, if they kept the practice up and did something like ban some of the hacker sites because *they* deemed them *potentially* dangerous, then I'd be outta there! Note: I'm arguing for the sake of arguing here. I don't like the practice, but I'm not directly affected by it, so I don't really care what IWT does :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Somewhat OT: Information Wave bans RIAA
http://www.informationwave.net/news/20020819riaa.php IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network August 19, 2002 Information Wave Technologies has announced it will actively deny the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) from accessing the contents of its network. Earlier this year, the RIAA announced its new plan to access computers without owner's consent for the sake of protecting its assets. Information Wave believes this policy puts its customers at risk of unintentional damage, corporate espionage, and invasion of privacy to say the least. Due to the nature of this matter and RIAA's previous history, we feel the RIAA will abuse software vulerabilities in a client's browser after the browser accesses its site, potentially allowing the RIAA to access and/or tamper with your data. Starting at midnight on August 19, 2002, Information Wave customers will no longer be able to reach the RIAA's web site. Information Wave will also actively seek out attempts by the RIAA to thwart this policy and apply additional filters to protect our customers' data. -- Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Somewhat OT: Information Wave bans RIAA
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 1:16pm, Ben Boulanger wrote: IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network And so it begins... -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Somewhat OT: Information Wave bans RIAA
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:32:53 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 1:16pm, Ben Boulanger wrote: IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network And so it begins... Yeah, at first I was pretty happy with this announcement, but now I'm thinking it's just a form of censorship. They have no right to tell me what sites I visit. If I were a customer of theirs, I'd be paying for *Internet* access. That means the whole Internet. Not just the sites that they've deemed safe for me to visit. Of course, I'm not a customer of theirs, nor do I ever expect to be. I also don't think this will have an overly large impact on most people, since most people are completely unaware that the RIAA and MPAA are slowly stealing peoples rights to begin with. So, as Ben S. said: And so it begins... It will be amusing who sues for what, and what the counter-suits will be as well :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Somewhat OT: Information Wave bans RIAA
On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 01:16 PM, Ben Boulanger wrote: http://www.informationwave.net/news/20020819riaa.php IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network August 19, 2002 Information Wave Technologies has announced... You left out the coolest part! Information Wave will also deploy peer-to-peer clients on the Gnutella network from its security research and development network (honeynet) which will offer files with popular song titles derived from the Billboard Top 100 maintained by VNU eMedia. No copyright violations will take place, these files will merely have arbitrary sizes similar to the length of a 3 to 4 minute MP3 audio file encoded at 128kbps. Clients which connect to our peer-to-peer clients, and then afterwards attempt to illegally access the network will be immediately blacklisted from Information Wave's network. The data collected will be actively maintained and distributed from our network operations site. Erik -- Erik Price email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
