Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Ricker

Now anyone know od an *editor* that actually works...?


Cristoph gave a talk on video editing  DVD production in Linux at BLU in 2005.
http://www.blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2005-mar
http://www.linuxsoup.com/ladle.php?SEC=112

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Video editing under Linux

2006-09-28 Thread Kjel Anderson
Hey everyone,

Another question: I have a digital camera that will record fairly nice video, 
but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to use 
mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would like to 
do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to get Kino 
to do it by converting them to *.avi and then importing them. Kino pukes on 
that without a sensible error message. Does anyone know of an application 
that works fairly well for doing this?

Thanks,

Kjel
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Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Kjel Anderson
Hey everyone,Another question: I have a digital camera that will record fairly nice video, but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to use mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would like to 
do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to get Kino to do it by converting them to *.avi and then importing them. Kino pukes on that without a sensible error message. Does anyone know of an application 
that works fairly well for doing this?Thanks,Kjel


Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread aluminumsulfate
   From: Kjel Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:35:00 -0400

   but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to use
   mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would like
   to
   do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to get

IIRC, mencoder can be used to address individual frames in video
clips, and reassemble them into video streams.  You may, however,
spend eternity at the command line specifying the options to
accomplish this.

A quick search of the Portage tree reveals...

avidemux DESCRIPTION=Great Video editing/encoding tool
cinelerra DESCRIPTION=Cinelerra - Professional Video Editor
lives DESCRIPTION=Linux Video Editing System
lve DESCRIPTION=Linux Video Editor
piave DESCRIPTION=PIAVE - Piave Is A Video Editor
vmaid DESCRIPTION=Video maid is the AVI file editor

...among others, which seem more like mastering or video-toaster type
applications.

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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Kjel Anderson
This actually gets to the heart of the problem: tons of tools, no information about which is the right tool for the job. I'm hoping that someone has actually done something similar. I spent 2 - 3 hours last night reading the man pages on mencoder and trying to get Kino to work. I'd love to find someone who had actually succeeded at this so I can get an idea of a rational tool chain for this sort of video editing.
Thanks,KjelOn 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kjel Anderson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:35:00 -0400 but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to use mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would like
 to do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to getIIRC, mencoder can be used to address individual frames in videoclips, and reassemble them into video streams.You may, however,
spend eternity at the command line specifying the options toaccomplish this.A quick search of the Portage tree reveals...avidemux DESCRIPTION=Great Video editing/encoding toolcinelerra DESCRIPTION=Cinelerra - Professional Video Editor
lives DESCRIPTION=Linux Video Editing Systemlve DESCRIPTION=Linux Video Editorpiave DESCRIPTION=PIAVE - Piave Is A Video Editorvmaid DESCRIPTION=Video maid is the AVI file editor
...among others, which seem more like mastering or video-toaster typeapplications.


Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Brian Chabot
Kjel Anderson wrote:

 Another question: I have a digital camera that will record fairly nice
 video,
 but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to
 use
 mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would
 like to
 do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to
 get Kino
 to do it by converting them to *.avi and then importing them. Kino
 pukes on
 that without a sensible error message. Does anyone know of an application
 that works fairly well for doing this?


Not in Linux.  It's EXTREMELY frustrating.

I got a cam a couple weeks ago and I've tried every Linux video editor I
could install without too much hassle.  My cam saves as MP4 files with a
.asf extension.  I can convert them (I am not on that system and can't
remember what I used), split them if I know what point to split at, and
play them fine.  Editing? 
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa.  A-hem.

At least the file transfer works out of the box.

MPlayer and Xine read and play the videos just fine.
Cinelerra thinks MPEG-4's and DivX files are BLANK if it recognizes them
at all.
Kdenlive (not updated since what? 2003?) thinks my files are blank, too.
Kfilm dumps core on file load.
LiVES - GUI makes no sense to me. Pretty, but senseless.
LVE: Roll a d6. 1-2 crash. 3-6 unrecognized format.
Pitivi loads the file, but thinks it's blank.

I had high hopes for Cinelerra.  I really did. 

At the moment, I am forced by the sorry state of Linux software that is
way out of my league to fix to use Windows.  I'd use a Mac with iMovie,
but I can't afford even a Mac Mini at the moment.

If anyone does find something that works, PLEASE post it here.

Thanks,

Brian
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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Kjel Anderson
At least I am not alone in this. I am going to keep working on it. I'll post if I make any progress.KjelOn 9/27/06, Brian Chabot 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kjel Anderson wrote: Another question: I have a digital camera that will record fairly nice
 video, but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out how to use mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I would like to do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I tried to
 get Kino to do it by converting them to *.avi and then importing them. Kino pukes on that without a sensible error message. Does anyone know of an application that works fairly well for doing this?
Not in Linux.It's EXTREMELY frustrating.I got a cam a couple weeks ago and I've tried every Linux video editor Icould install without too much hassle.My cam saves as MP4 files with a.asf extension.I can convert them (I am not on that system and can't
remember what I used), split them if I know what point to split at, andplay them fine.Editing?Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa.A-hem.At least the file transfer works out of the box.
MPlayer and Xine read and play the videos just fine.Cinelerra thinks MPEG-4's and DivX files are BLANK if it recognizes themat all.Kdenlive (not updated since what? 2003?) thinks my files are blank, too.
Kfilm dumps core on file load.LiVES - GUI makes no sense to me. Pretty, but senseless.LVE: Roll a d6. 1-2 crash. 3-6 unrecognized format.Pitivi loads the file, but thinks it's blank.I had high hopes for Cinelerra.I really did.
At the moment, I am forced by the sorry state of Linux software that isway out of my league to fix to use Windows.I'd use a Mac with iMovie,but I can't afford even a Mac Mini at the moment.If anyone does find something that works, PLEASE post it here.
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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt


There is something named Jahshaka that has glanced my interest.
I've no personal experience with it though.

I occasionally use my computer to do edits of video and would also
be interested in a linux solution that just works. For the moment, I
use adobe premiere since it mostly just works I need to be able
to concentrate on my content and not get distracted by quirks of the
the tools.

http://www.jahshaka.org/

-Andrew Gaunt

Kjel Anderson wrote:

At least I am not alone in this. I am going to keep working on it. 
I'll post if I make any progress.


Kjel

On 9/27/06, *Brian Chabot*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kjel Anderson wrote:

 Another question: I have a digital camera that will record
fairly nice
 video,
 but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file. I figured out
how to
 use
 mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. What I
would
 like to
 do is to be able to edit several of these clips together. I
tried to
 get Kino
 to do it by converting them to *.avi and then importing them. Kino
 pukes on
 that without a sensible error message. Does anyone know of an
application
 that works fairly well for doing this?


Not in Linux.  It's EXTREMELY frustrating.

I got a cam a couple weeks ago and I've tried every Linux video
editor I
could install without too much hassle.  My cam saves as MP4 files
with a
.asf extension.  I can convert them (I am not on that system and
can't
remember what I used), split them if I know what point to split
at, and
play them fine.  Editing?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa.  A-hem.

At least the file transfer works out of the box.

MPlayer and Xine read and play the videos just fine.
Cinelerra thinks MPEG-4's and DivX files are BLANK if it
recognizes them
at all.
Kdenlive (not updated since what? 2003?) thinks my files are
blank, too.
Kfilm dumps core on file load.
LiVES - GUI makes no sense to me. Pretty, but senseless.
LVE: Roll a d6. 1-2 crash. 3-6 unrecognized format.
Pitivi loads the file, but thinks it's blank.

I had high hopes for Cinelerra.  I really did.

At the moment, I am forced by the sorry state of Linux software
that is
way out of my league to fix to use Windows.  I'd use a Mac with
iMovie,
but I can't afford even a Mac Mini at the moment.

If anyone does find something that works, PLEASE post it here.

Thanks,

Brian
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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:35, Kjel Anderson wrote:


but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file.


do we know what the codec is?  .mov (assuming QuickTime) is a container 
format, can have lots of different things inside of it.



 I figured out how to use
mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. ...Kino pukes 
on

that without a sensible error message.


Were you able to verify the conversion?   That is do we have a Kino bug 
or is the output file from mencoder no good?


I've had best luck with ffmpeg.  It's a bitch to figure out the options 
that actually work.  Here's my avi2dv script:


  ffmpeg -i $1.avi -s 720x576 -r 25 -y -hq -s ntsc -r ntsc -ac 2 -ar 
48000 $1.dv


The man pages only get you so far - some of these options were from 
message boards and experimentation.


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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Kjel Anderson
Thanks for the information about the .MOV files. I hate that it isn't something a little more universal. I'll give ffmpeg a try.KjelOn 9/27/06, Bill McGonigle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:35, Kjel Anderson wrote:
 but unfortunately it records it as an *.mov file.do we know what the codec is?.mov (assuming QuickTime) is a containerformat, can have lots of different things inside of it.I figured out how to use
 mencoder to change it to a variety of different formats. ...Kino pukes on that without a sensible error message.Were you able to verify the conversion? That is do we have a Kino bugor is the output file from mencoder no good?
I've had best luck with ffmpeg.It's a bitch to figure out the optionsthat actually work.Here's my avi2dv script: ffmpeg -i $1.avi -s 720x576 -r 25 -y -hq -s ntsc -r ntsc -ac 2 -ar48000 $1.dv
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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Fred
There are some command-line utilities capable of transcoding video files 
under Linux.

Google transcode and linux to find them.

May be of help.

-Fred
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Re: Video editing in lInux

2006-09-27 Thread Brian Chabot

Fred wrote:

There are some command-line utilities capable of transcoding video files 
under Linux.
 


GTranscode and File2DiVX are two GUI front-ends.

Now anyone know od an *editor* that actually works...?

Like... stable and stuff.

Brian
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