Re: Worldpath DSL
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 20:43 -0500, Lawrence Tilly wrote: When the tech first hooked us up I asked if he would have to come back out when we go w/ the static IPs, and he said no...so I didn't think to inquire further at that time. I really wish I did now since he was very helpful and fothcoming w/ info. Sorry to chime in so late - holidays have been busy. 8) In any case, I live in Farmington and have Worldpath for my residential DSL. When I got the original basic service, I had a dynamic IP address and the DSL modem would NAT me - meaning that whatever system I had hooked up to the service would get a so-called fake IP address (usually in the low 10.0.0.x range). I switched to a single static IP address and they did not have to come out to make any changes. They did the configuration from their end, and just gave me the network settings to use. Twas a piece of cake. With regards to the port 80 management on the modem, I don't remember checking it before I got the static IP, but I'm pretty sure that port 80 has been open straight through to my IP since. Keep in mind that unless you're going with a business line, running a server is technically prohibited. Like with most reasonable companies (as few as there may be), I doubt they're likely to yell at you unless you go overboard. I've run an ssh server ever since I got the service and nobody seems to mind. As far as the service itself, I've been extremely happy. In the past 3+ years of the service, I've never had a problem (that wasn't caused by me anyway *grin*). In fact, quite the opposite. I've found that my bandwidth has steadily *increased* through the years. When I first signed up, I was getting a max of about 80kB down and 30kB up. I now bax out at around 424kB down and 100kB up, with no increase in the price of service. Yes, that's a capital B. Not too shabby for living in the boonies. As far as dealing with the folks at Worldpath, I couldn't be happier. Their techs that have come to the house are always polite, nice, knowledgeable and helpful. And the few times that I've needed to email their tech support have been consistently helpful. I've had particularly good luck dealing with an individual named Lance Shaw (hi Lance, if you're reading!). He has been extremely helpful and responsive. All in all, I definitely give Worldpath an A+. -- The memory management on the power pc chip is something that should be shown to small children when they've been especially bad. -Linus Torvalds Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Worldpath DSL
Just to clarify, I haven't ordered the static IPs yet. I will be doing so on Tuesday when they reopen for business. I'm actually not sure yet how this will even be configured physically since I haven't spoken to a rep. I understand that the IP address I currently have is actually the address to my DSL modem. That in turn is hooked up to a Linksys Broadband Router wo thish I have a secured wireless and three desktop computers connected. I currently have only the one DSL modem and only one physical line wired up for it. I'm not sure how I will be able to physically run five IPs with a single DSL modem. I'll admit full ignorance to this though...I have never had much discussion with anyone else doing anything similar. So, when you are suggesting I set up a box at one of my static addresses I am not sure what process that will be physically. If you have any gueses I'd love to hear them, otherwise I probably need to wait a couple more days. I really do hope that it will just work, although I don't mind getting a little creative if needed. -L On 1/1/06, Ken D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: your problem below: I think you may be a bit mixed up. Your IP address is, in all likelyhood, the cable modem's IP address -- especially if it's going to have to act as a router to your other static addresses. So the thing to do is to set up a box at one of your static addresses with Apache running on it, and try to surf *there*. Odds of it working are very high. Good luck (and Happy New Year back at you!) -Ken ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Worldpath DSL
Not sure if yours is the same, but last time I had DSL with a bunch of static IP's, the setup looked like this: LANE server -- ATM -- Provider DSL modem -- my DSL modem (which acted as LANE client for all my IPs, routing them to...) -- Switch == All PC's --DTVZ
Re: Worldpath DSL
n 1/1/06, Lawrence Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, I haven't ordered the static IPs yet. That will make things harder. :) To address your current problem: I've not experience with your model of DSL modem, but I've encountered similar trouble. What usually happens is that some kind of NAT is done on the modem. Your config ends up looking like this: ISP [modem]-- LAN - 192.168.1.0/24 | | 24.34.44.212 192.168.1.1 In the above example, your modem has a DSL interface with IP address 24.34.44.212 [1]. The Ethernet interface of the modem has an address from the RFC-1918 private address space. Does that describe your setup accurately? With the above, you can often configure the modem to forward services from the public IP (24.34.44.212) to a host on the LAN. The problem is that the modem's admin UI is already bound to TCP/80, and it grabs that before any port forwarding can. As you surmise, the fix is to unbind the admin UI from the DSL interface, or change the port number. I will be doing so on Tuesday when they reopen for business. I'm actually not sure yet how this will even be configured physically since I haven't spoken to a rep. Typically, they give you a small routable IP block, and your config then looks something like this: ISP [modem]-- LAN - 24.34.45.48/29 | | 24.34.44.212 24.34.45.49 In the above . A small netblock, 24.34.45.48/29 [2], is delegated to your site from your ISP. The Ethernet interface on the modem uses .49 from that block. You're free to use .50 - .54 for your own equipment. You likely end up assigning the Internet or WAN interface on your LinkSys box one of those addresses. Footnotes - [1] That's actually my current Comcast cable Internet IP address. Please don't try using that. :) [2] I got that by adding one to the third octect of my IP. Hope the real owner doesn't mind. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Worldpath DSL
Thanx! All of those are actually great responses and give me somethings to keep in mind when I talk to them. When the tech first hooked us up I asked if he would have to come back out when we go w/ the static IPs, and he said no...so I didn't think to inquire further at that time. I really wish I did now since he was very helpful and fothcoming w/ info. I'll drop a follow-up to the list of what the final config ends up like and may have some more questions then ( hope not! ). -L ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Worldpath DSL
First off, Happy New Year, all! A couple months ago I switched to Worldpath DSL from Metrocast cable and have generally been VERY happy ( faster up and down and none of the anoying drop-outs Metrocast gave me ). The also give me the option of picking up five static IPs for just a few $ extra per month. Since my free trial of 1and1 service will be ending shortly, I wanted to take advantage of the statics to move my web site home. It's VERY light use ( a few hits / day...mostly my own use for testing things out ) and paying any place to host it is overkill...but I really don't want to give up any of the three domains I have registered for it. I have been able to confirm that Worldpath is not blocking incomming port 80. Unfortunately, my DSL modem is. When I try to connect to my IP:80 I get the login prompt for administering the modem. It's a rental, so I searched online and found a copy of the owner's manual. I was actually a little surprised to see that Worldpath changed the default admin PW, but they did not change the guest PW. So I was able to get on as guest and poke around, but I can't seem to find anything in the setup ( or manual ) that would indicate how to set up port 80 to pass thru ( or perhaps change the default admin port to something else ). The modem is a Pardyne 6211. Is anyone out there already running a web site ( and possibly the mail service as well ) behind a Paradyne DSL modem and/or on Worldpath DSL? I would even consider purchasing my own DSL modem ( since I have to pay to rent this one anyway ) if necessary, but I wanted to check for options first. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Worldpath DSL
Re: your problem below: I think you may be a bit mixed up. Your IP address is, in all likelyhood, the cable modem's IP address -- especially if it's going to have to act as a router to your other static addresses. So the thing to do is to set up a box at one of your static addresses with Apache running on it, and try to surf *there*. Odds of it working are very high. Good luck (and Happy New Year back at you!) -Ken First off, Happy New Year, all! A couple months ago I switched to Worldpath DSL from Metrocast cable and have generally been VERY happy ( faster up and down and none of the anoying drop-outs Metrocast gave me ). The also give me the option of picking up five static IPs for just a few $ extra per month. Since my free trial of 1and1 service will be ending shortly, I wanted to take advantage of the statics to move my web site home. It's VERY light use ( a few hits / day...mostly my own use for testing things out ) and paying any place to host it is overkill...but I really don't want to give up any of the three domains I have registered for it. I have been able to confirm that Worldpath is not blocking incomming port 80. Unfortunately, my DSL modem is. When I try to connect to my IP:80 I get the login prompt for administering the modem. It's a rental, so I searched online and found a copy of the owner's manual. I was actually a little surprised to see that Worldpath changed the default admin PW, but they did not change the guest PW. So I was able to get on as guest and poke around, but I can't seem to find anything in the setup ( or manual ) that would indicate how to set up port 80 to pass thru ( or perhaps change the default admin port to something else ). The modem is a Pardyne 6211. Is anyone out there already running a web site ( and possibly the mail service as well ) behind a Paradyne DSL modem and/or on Worldpath DSL? I would even consider purchasing my own DSL modem ( since I have to pay to rent this one anyway ) if necessary, but I wanted to check for options first. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
