Re: SwaNH meeting postings
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that go to -discuss or -announce? IMO: Send to -discuss, or maybe not at all. It's not Linux or FOSS or GNHLUG or particularly NH. We're not obligated to forward everything that comes to our inbox. Full Disclosure: My reaction to reading the message is something along the lines of It sounds a bunch of pointy-haired suits listening to Yet Another speaker promising to solve all their problems by following a checklist, when the real problem is that you can't fix stupid. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SwaNH meeting postings
I agree with Ben. If this announcement was something about FOSS then you could circulate it (and I would say to do that to announce). If we want to help a sister organization, then perhaps we can have a link to their site on our site. That way people can sign up for their announcements (and drop the sign-up) as desired. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SwaNH meeting postings
As much as I want to help SwANH (and software development in NH in general), I have to agree with what has been stated already by Michael and Ben. On the other hand, if they are willing to sponsor GNHLUG in a substantial way, or if they actively support (versus passively support) FOSS, then I feel they can post a message to one of the lists. On the other other hand, I have been to one of their conferences and found it a good thing - at least for prospecting for local talent and suppliers. It may be worth a one paragraph note on the -discuss list for their Call for Papers or their meeting logistics. Or on the GNHLUG web site as a Other regional software organizations. --Bruce Michael Kazin wrote: I'm with Ben. Sounds like a great way for managers to take a day off, watching advertisement-laden Powerpoint slides. I'm terribly against allowing advertising on mailing lists. I don't see anything on their website which tells whether they are for-profit or not, and assume they are. I'm glad to help other non-profits and we can certainly partner with corporations who are truly part of the FOSS community. But I think we can't become a tool for corporations who want to capitalize on our reputation and good-will. My view is: if the source of the email generates money, we're sorry. If a member is sharing something they are actually interested in, it's certainly appropriate. Exceptions for promotions which we believe are LUG-related, of interest to members and will actually contain substance. For example, a distro rep demoing (not just a slideshow) an upgrade to a major version, when we are actually in need of presenters. Michael On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that go to -discuss or -announce? IMO: Send to -discuss, or maybe not at all. It's not Linux or FOSS or GNHLUG or particularly NH. We're not obligated to forward everything that comes to our inbox. Full Disclosure: My reaction to reading the message is something along the lines of It sounds a bunch of pointy-haired suits listening to Yet Another speaker promising to solve all their problems by following a checklist, when the real problem is that you can't fix stupid. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SwaNH meeting postings
I think that selected SwANH announcements should be forwarded to -announce, but this one didn't qualify. There is a dinner meeting on May 15, where a couple local high-tech startups will talk about how they started up, which might be suitable to post. SwANH is a non-profit. As far as I know, they would be willing to shield other NH-based technology groups under their 501c3. I was on the committee that originally got SwANH organized, so I can say for sure that the original plan was for it to be an umbrella organization. Note, for example, that SwANH has given free tables to GNHLUG and other groups at past software conferences. .David Marston at MV On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Bruce Dawson wrote: ... On the other hand, if they are willing to sponsor GNHLUG in a substantial way, or if they actively support (versus passively support) FOSS, then I feel they can post a message to one of the lists. ... Michael Kazin wrote: ...I don't see anything on their website which tells whether they are for-profit or not, and assume they are. I'm glad to help other non-profits... ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
