Re: Committing po-file changes, agian

[Behdad Esfahbod]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Vincent Untz wrote:

> Le lundi 13 mars 2006 à 00:32 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> > Hi Danilo and others,
> >
> > I did checkout and install latest intltool, and reran autogen and
> > build and all in vte, but still I get all translations modified
> > after a distcheck.
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm going to commit them this time too, but I'm
> > willing to fix this issue as soon as somebody here tells me how.
> > Same probably will happen with gucharmap in a few minutes.
>
> It seems vte doesn't use intltool. gucharmap does, though.

Ah, that's out of my autofoo expertise.  Anybody willing to
submit a patch?  I opened this bug for it:

  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334385

> Vincent

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Re: Committing po-file changes, agian

[Vincent Untz]

Le lundi 13 mars 2006 à 00:32 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> Hi Danilo and others,
> 
> I did checkout and install latest intltool, and reran autogen and
> build and all in vte, but still I get all translations modified
> after a distcheck.
> 
> I'm afraid I'm going to commit them this time too, but I'm
> willing to fix this issue as soon as somebody here tells me how.
> Same probably will happen with gucharmap in a few minutes.

It seems vte doesn't use intltool. gucharmap does, though.

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release notes: Problems preparing screenshots

[Theppitak Karoonboonyanan]

I've been close to finishing Thai translation for the release notes.
However, I have some problems preparing localized screenshots,
and would like to ask for suggestions in setting up.

deskbar
- "Web search" and "Web" sections do not appear in the result.
- Dictionary lookup action does not appear.

gnome-screensaver and fast user switching
- There is no "Switch User..." button in the unlock dialog

evolution
- Any Hula calendar for GNOME timelines available?

epiphany
- The "Use custom stylesheet" option is missing from the
  preferences dialog.
  (It's gnome-2-14 branch of epiphany.)

I'm using GNOME CVS, built with jhbuild.

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gucharmap branched for GNOME 2.14

[Behdad Esfahbod]

The branch name is gnome-2-14.


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Committing po-file changes, agian

[Behdad Esfahbod]

Hi Danilo and others,

I did checkout and install latest intltool, and reran autogen and
build and all in vte, but still I get all translations modified
after a distcheck.

I'm afraid I'm going to commit them this time too, but I'm
willing to fix this issue as soon as somebody here tells me how.
Same probably will happen with gucharmap in a few minutes.

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Re: Quick brown fox

[Theppitak Karoonboonyanan]

On 3/12/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the important question to ask is: "What do
> typographers who work in this language/this writing
> system use to show the characters of a font?"

For Thai, there is no certain one-line phrase.
Different programs use different phrases, depending on
what typographic features they want to emphasize, such
as glyph characteristic elements, shaping, and so on.

In fact, I've been doing a rough consensus for the phrase
to use in GNOME translation, too. The desired phrase
should show both glyph shapes and shaping features,
to demonstrate Pango capabilities while representing
the characteristics of the font at the same time.

The most recent, but not final, proposal is:

วิญญูมุ่งรู้พิฆาตปื้นขี้ฝุ่นเลษฏุ

It's not so good in terms of language beauty,
but it just demonstrates typographic features well.

Note that simply listing alphabets is not enough
for Thai, because it has combining characters
to cover as well.

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Re: Which screenshots for release-notes?

[Clytie Siddall]

On 13/03/2006, at 3:06 PM, Satoru SATOH wrote:Try like the following, cvs -d :ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome co gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/docbookYay! It works!Thankyou, Satoru. :)I didn't realize I had to include the gnomeweb path. I'll make a note of this, to try and avoid forgetting it next time. ;) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN  ___
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Yelp branched

[Brent Smith]

Hi,

Yelp has been branched for GNOME 2.14.  The branch name is "gnome-2-14".

Thanks,

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Re: Which screenshots for release-notes?

[Bob Kashani]

On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 14:46 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
> On 12/03/2006, at 6:39 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> 
> > Here's where the release notes are in CVS:
> > http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/ 
> > notes/docbook/
> >
> > You can find the screenshots in the C/figures/ directory, as usual :-)
> 
> Thanks, Vincent.
> 
> I wanted to check the module out, myself, but couldn't get the URL  
> right.
> 
> I tried:
> 
> cvs -z3 -d :ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome co start/2.14/notes/ 
> docbook

That should be: gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/docbook

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Re: Which screenshots for release-notes?

[Satoru SATOH]

Try like the following, cvs -d :ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome co gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/docbookThanks,Satoru SATOH
2006/3/13, Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 12/03/2006, at 6:39 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:> Here's where the release notes are in CVS:> http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/
> notes/docbook/>> You can find the screenshots in the C/figures/ directory, as usual :-)Thanks, Vincent.I wanted to check the module out, myself, but couldn't get the URLright.
I tried:cvs -z3 -d :ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome co start/2.14/notes/docbookbut only got:cvs server: cannot find module `start/2.14/notes/docbook' - ignoredcvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules
What should I be using?from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhómViệt hóa phần mềm tự do)http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
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Re: Deskbar 2.14 branched

[Clytie Siddall]

On 13/03/2006, at 7:40 AM, Raphael Slinckx wrote:


I wanted to notify you that deskbar 2.14 has branched and is available
in 'gnome-2-14' branch in CVS, development will continue in HEAD.


Does "deskbar" mean "deskbar-applet"?

from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm  
Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)

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Re: Quick brown fox

[Clytie Siddall]

On 12/03/2006, at 9:36 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:


Wikipedia has a list of pangrams, at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangram
As it might be difficult to find pangrams for your language, a  
common alternative is to list the alphabet.


It's difficult in a tonal language. We have six tones for each vowel,  
and have twelve vowels: 72 different vowels, plus nearly the usual  
number of Roman alphabet consonants.


It would be possible, but long. I usually list the characters:

aàảãáạằẳẵắặầẩẫấậbcdđ

etc.

from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm  
Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)

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Re: Which screenshots for release-notes?

[Clytie Siddall]

On 12/03/2006, at 6:39 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:


Here's where the release notes are in CVS:
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/ 
notes/docbook/


You can find the screenshots in the C/figures/ directory, as usual :-)


Thanks, Vincent.

I wanted to check the module out, myself, but couldn't get the URL  
right.


I tried:

cvs -z3 -d :ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome co start/2.14/notes/ 
docbook


but only got:

cvs server: cannot find module `start/2.14/notes/docbook' - ignored
cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules

What should I be using?

from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm  
Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN


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Re: Untranslated string in metacity now marked for translation (bug 334332)

[Elijah Newren]

On 3/12/06, Satoru SATOH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this change included in GNOME-2.14 release?
> If so, I don't think we can update our translations in time although it is a
> tiny change.

Yes, it's a string users are very unlikely to see (only if running an
application remotely), but unfortunately it showed up in the release
notes so those who want to translate the release notes need the string
marked for translation.  And yes, it's basically just the word 'on'
that needs to be translated.

I agree this really sucks and it's my fault for not catching the
string not being marked for translation when I reviewed the patch that
added this string about 4 months ago; but unfortunately no one noticed
until today.  I'll try to make the metacity release as close to the
deadline as possible so that translators have as much time to do the
translation as they can.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Untranslated string in metacity now marked for translation (bug 334332)

[Satoru SATOH]

Is this change included in GNOME-2.14 release? If so, I don't think we can update our translations in time although it is a tiny change.Thanks,Satoru SATOH
2006/3/13, Thomas Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi.One of the strings in metacity accidentally didn't get marked fortranslation. It has now been marked for translation in both gnome-2-14and HEAD.The string was "%s (on %s)".Further details are at <
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Untranslated string in metacity now marked for translation (bug 334332)

[Thomas Thurman]

Hi.

One of the strings in metacity accidentally didn't get marked for 
translation. It has now been marked for translation in both gnome-2-14 
and HEAD.


The string was "%s (on %s)".

Further details are at .

peace

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Deskbar 2.14 branched

[Raphael Slinckx]

Hi !

I wanted to notify you that deskbar 2.14 has branched and is available
in 'gnome-2-14' branch in CVS, development will continue in HEAD.

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Epiphany branched

[Christian Persch]

Hi,

Epiphany has branched for GNOME 2.14. The branch name is "gnome-2-14".

Regards,
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Re: Quick brown fox

[Joachim Noreiko]

--- Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> O/H Theppitak Karoonboonyanan έγραψε:
> > On 3/12/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >   
> >> I've been looking at the Font preview window and
> it
> >> occurs to me -- do other languages show 'The
> quick
> >> brown fox jumps over the lazy dog', or do they
> >> translate it?
> >>
> >> This is something that should be translated for
> >> cultural purposes rather than meaning. Other
> languages
> >> have their own pangrams that are used in this
> sort of
> >> situation to show all characters.
> >>
> >> 'Allez porter ce whisky au vieux juge blond qui
> fume.'
> >> 
> >
> > I remember contributing to Markus Kuhn's
> quickbrown file:
> >  
>
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/quickbrown.txt
> >   
> Wikipedia has a list of pangrams, at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangram
> As it might be difficult to find pangrams for your
> language, a common 
> alternative is to list the alphabet.

I think the important question to ask is: "What do
typographers who work in this language/this writing
system use to show the characters of a font?"





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Re: Quick brown fox

[Simos Xenitellis]

O/H Theppitak Karoonboonyanan έγραψε:

On 3/12/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I've been looking at the Font preview window and it
occurs to me -- do other languages show 'The quick
brown fox jumps over the lazy dog', or do they
translate it?

This is something that should be translated for
cultural purposes rather than meaning. Other languages
have their own pangrams that are used in this sort of
situation to show all characters.

'Allez porter ce whisky au vieux juge blond qui fume.'



I remember contributing to Markus Kuhn's quickbrown file:
  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/quickbrown.txt
  

Wikipedia has a list of pangrams, at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangram
As it might be difficult to find pangrams for your language, a common 
alternative is to list the alphabet.


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Re: Quick brown fox

[Theppitak Karoonboonyanan]

On 3/12/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been looking at the Font preview window and it
> occurs to me -- do other languages show 'The quick
> brown fox jumps over the lazy dog', or do they
> translate it?
>
> This is something that should be translated for
> cultural purposes rather than meaning. Other languages
> have their own pangrams that are used in this sort of
> situation to show all characters.
>
> 'Allez porter ce whisky au vieux juge blond qui fume.'

I remember contributing to Markus Kuhn's quickbrown file:
  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/quickbrown.txt

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Quick brown fox

[Joachim Noreiko]

I've been looking at the Font preview window and it
occurs to me -- do other languages show 'The quick
brown fox jumps over the lazy dog', or do they
translate it?

This is something that should be translated for
cultural purposes rather than meaning. Other languages
have their own pangrams that are used in this sort of
situation to show all characters.

'Allez porter ce whisky au vieux juge blond qui fume.'



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Re: Due date for Release Notes

[Vincent Untz]

Le dimanche 12 mars 2006 à 15:27 +1030, Clytie Siddall a écrit :
> Hi everyone :)
> 
> Do we have a due date for the release notes yet? I'm having trouble  
> fitting their translation into my available (sic) time, and I need to  
> plan some time for getting screenshots from my team-leader [1].

It'd be great to have the release notes translated for wednesday noon
(UTC) (ie, before the 2.14.0 release is out). However, they can be
updated later on the website if needed.

Vincent

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Re: Which screenshots for release-notes?

[Vincent Untz]

Le dimanche 12 mars 2006 à 17:58 +1030, Clytie Siddall a écrit :
> Hi all :)
> 
> My team-leader has said he's happy to supply screen-shots of Gnome  
> 2.14 in Vietnamese for the release-notes, but very reasonably asked,  
> "Which screenshots?"
> 
> Which ones do we need? I couldn't work out from the Docs status page,  
> how to checkout the module from gnome cvs, to look at the English  
> screenshots. I think that's the way we did it last time, but i may  
> have it muddled.

Here's where the release notes are in CVS:
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/docbook/

You can find the screenshots in the C/figures/ directory, as usual :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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