Re: cvs assistance needed (probably)

2006-11-17 Thread Leonardo Fontenelle
Last time I knew the was a long line of people waiting to get the
access. I can't help you directly (don't have access), sorry...

Leonardo Fontenelle
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[gcmd-dev] GNOME Commander translations

2006-11-17 Thread Piotr Eljasiak
Hi folks,

As we are getting closer to the next release of GNOME Commander -
version 1.2.2, we need updated translations
(http://progress.gnome.org/module/gnome-commander) before the release
that is going to happen till the end of November. It would be great if
translations could be updated before the launch. 

Thanks,
Piotr





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cvs assistance needed (probably)

2006-11-17 Thread wadim dziedzic
hello,

I'm a member of polish gnome translation team.
Polish translation got a massive update for 2.16.1, but now it appears 
that we have nobody with cvs access among us. It seems that our 
coordinator (Artur Flinta) is off-line at the moment and most probably 
will be offline for all this week-end. He started a cvs account grant 
procedure for me, but at the moment we have no response from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So I would like to know possibly exact deadline date for translation cvs 
commit and if there is somebody who would help us with the commit in 
case we don't contact Artur before the deadline. (I know that this idea 
is rather unusual, but maybe as an exception, someone of You will help 
us ;-))

thanks in advance,
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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Done. I have added a patch to bugzilla which provides an option to set
the limit in Edit->Preferences instead of ENV variable.

Thanks
Srini.
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 15:14 +0100, Francisco Javier F. Serrador wrote:
> Yep, translators usually are proud of being the first to reach 100%
> translated string completion, but, users who get a completely localized
> application also expect that it does not crash :). We target users, (and
> clients), and users do not know how to set env variables, and if you
> force them to do so, they will use other application.
> 
> We need string freeze to avoid getting a ton of new strings some days
> before release, but not to prevent critical bug fixes as this from being
> resolved.  If this specific bug were less severe I will do not agree to
> break the string freeze.
> 
> El vie, 17-11-2006 a las 16:50 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan escribió:
> > If I get you right, you mean a configuration option in Preferences to
> > set the message limit, instead of a ENV variable. Am I right? I think
> > it
> > should be fairly possible. It is just a matter of time. I'm not sure,
> > If
> > I can push that before 2.8.2, but definitely possible for further
> > releases on stable, if the release team approves them too :).
> > 
> 

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Re: Missing modules on stats on kvota.net

2006-11-17 Thread Claude Paroz
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 à 16:25 +0100, Daniel Nylander a écrit :
> I crosschecked the doc modules listed at progress.gnome.org against the 
> listings at kvota.net
> 
> http://www.kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html
> 
> The following doc modules are not listed at kvota.net:
> 
> monkey-bubble
> goobox
> gnomeradio
> glom
> epiphany-extensions
> 
> kvota.net is Danilos turf, right?

AFAIK, kvota.net is using the modules.xml file in
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-i18n/status/doc-l10n-status

It's a matter of adding the missing references in this file.

Regards.

Claude

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Re: seahorse 0.8 and HEAD

2006-11-17 Thread Francisco Javier F. Serrador
That's Danilo's realm.
I sure he will do it as soon as he read the list.
El vie, 17-11-2006 a las 17:00 +0100, Daniel Nylander escribió:
> Francisco Javier F. Serrador skrev:
> > Ok, done.
> >
> > New stats will be procesed in some hours.
> >
> >   
> Great. Thanks!
> 
> Is it also possible to update progress.g.o to display HEAD?
> 
> http://progress.gnome.org/module/seahorse
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
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Re: seahorse 0.8 and HEAD

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel Nylander
Francisco Javier F. Serrador skrev:
> Ok, done.
>
> New stats will be procesed in some hours.
>
>   
Great. Thanks!

Is it also possible to update progress.g.o to display HEAD?

http://progress.gnome.org/module/seahorse

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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 14:57 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> hi srini,
> 
> Am Freitag, den 17.11.2006, 11:59 +0530 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
> > If you receive a mail that has inline text of more than few MBs [Vary
> > depending on your RAM/Swap size] it just hogs your desktop and Evolution
> > is totally unusable after that.
> > 
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337439 has the details about
> > the bug. I have put a patch, which now shows a warning about the issue
> > and gives a option to view the message unformatted/plain text or with an
> > external viewer.
> > 
> > I have attached a screen shot at the bugzilla. It will go to HEAD, but
> > it will be nice, If I can push this to 2.8.2 which is due Monday. Can
> > this be committed to STABLE?
> 
> i agree that this is a serious security issue, as evolution tries to be
> smart and immediately starts rendering the same message again after
> restarting the application. users currently don't have a chance to get
> evolution running again without changing gconf keys.
I can move this to a Evolution Preference. Definitely not a issue at
all.
> 
> however, as discussed on irc, this is a hackish workaround, but not a
> fix for the underlying issue of the problem that "view->message source"
> uses gtkhtml (otherwise the output of this command could be used to be
> displayed in the message preview pane/message window instead of adding a
> GtkTextArea), and another underlying issue of your workaround, namely
> that GtkTextArea dies when increasing the size of that text widget
> (according to srini), so i either have to scroll around like mad to read
> that message source, or i have to open an external application.
> 
> so, if you
> 1. can explain whether this DoS issue can only happen to emails? if
>so, please change the string "Evolution cannot render this as it
>is too large to handle. You can view it unformatted or with an
>external viewer." to something like "Evolution cannot render
>this email as it is too large to handle. You can view it
>unformatted or with an external text editor." to make the
>translators' lifes a bit easier (think of different genders and
>personal pronouns of the term "email" in other languages!)
Sure. I can rephrase it.

> 2. explain whether there's any difference between "unformatted" and
>"message source" from a user's point of view (not from a
>developer's point of view, i don't care about MIME parsers)?
>if there isn't, please change the three affected messages by only
>using the term "message source" as already used by evolution in
>its menu, instead of introducing another term,
Message source means the whole message. Where as here we speak of parts.
Assume I have a mail 10MB of text with 3 inline images of 4 MB each.
Evolution cannot render the text message partof 10 MB. In the message
view, you still see the 3 images and at the top, the warning with the
unformatted content [UNFORMATTED meaning if you have a message like "hai
my web site is http://novell.com"; you wont see the UNDERLINE below the
url and lot more like this]. If you ask message source, it means the
HEADERS, PARTIDs and txt. You cannot refer the one as another.


> 3. fix the typo at "em_format_format_tex(emf, stream, part)",
Done.
> 4. promise to try to work out the underlying issue 1) for the next
>major release (evo 2.10),

You mean the memory built up in GtkHTML? I wish I can fix it. I went for
this workaround after spending sufficient time try fixing it. I tried my
best to avoid the DoS attack. I'm not sure whether I can fix the memory
built-up by 2.10. 

Thanks
Srini.
> 
> i'd probably vote for getting this in, though i'm not really happy. :-/
> 
> cheers,
> andre
> 

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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Francisco Javier F. Serrador
Yep, translators usually are proud of being the first to reach 100%
translated string completion, but, users who get a completely localized
application also expect that it does not crash :). We target users, (and
clients), and users do not know how to set env variables, and if you
force them to do so, they will use other application.

We need string freeze to avoid getting a ton of new strings some days
before release, but not to prevent critical bug fixes as this from being
resolved.  If this specific bug were less severe I will do not agree to
break the string freeze.

El vie, 17-11-2006 a las 16:50 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan escribió:
> If I get you right, you mean a configuration option in Preferences to
> set the message limit, instead of a ENV variable. Am I right? I think
> it
> should be fairly possible. It is just a matter of time. I'm not sure,
> If
> I can push that before 2.8.2, but definitely possible for further
> releases on stable, if the release team approves them too :).
> 

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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Andre Klapper
hi srini,

Am Freitag, den 17.11.2006, 11:59 +0530 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
> If you receive a mail that has inline text of more than few MBs [Vary
> depending on your RAM/Swap size] it just hogs your desktop and Evolution
> is totally unusable after that.
> 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337439 has the details about
> the bug. I have put a patch, which now shows a warning about the issue
> and gives a option to view the message unformatted/plain text or with an
> external viewer.
> 
> I have attached a screen shot at the bugzilla. It will go to HEAD, but
> it will be nice, If I can push this to 2.8.2 which is due Monday. Can
> this be committed to STABLE?

i agree that this is a serious security issue, as evolution tries to be
smart and immediately starts rendering the same message again after
restarting the application. users currently don't have a chance to get
evolution running again without changing gconf keys.

however, as discussed on irc, this is a hackish workaround, but not a
fix for the underlying issue of the problem that "view->message source"
uses gtkhtml (otherwise the output of this command could be used to be
displayed in the message preview pane/message window instead of adding a
GtkTextArea), and another underlying issue of your workaround, namely
that GtkTextArea dies when increasing the size of that text widget
(according to srini), so i either have to scroll around like mad to read
that message source, or i have to open an external application.

so, if you
1. can explain whether this DoS issue can only happen to emails? if
   so, please change the string "Evolution cannot render this as it
   is too large to handle. You can view it unformatted or with an
   external viewer." to something like "Evolution cannot render
   this email as it is too large to handle. You can view it
   unformatted or with an external text editor." to make the
   translators' lifes a bit easier (think of different genders and
   personal pronouns of the term "email" in other languages!)
2. explain whether there's any difference between "unformatted" and
   "message source" from a user's point of view (not from a
   developer's point of view, i don't care about MIME parsers)?
   if there isn't, please change the three affected messages by only
   using the term "message source" as already used by evolution in
   its menu, instead of introducing another term,
3. fix the typo at "em_format_format_tex(emf, stream, part)",
4. promise to try to work out the underlying issue 1) for the next
   major release (evo 2.10),

i'd probably vote for getting this in, though i'm not really happy. :-/

cheers,
andre

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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi Javier,

If I get you right, you mean a configuration option in Preferences to
set the message limit, instead of a ENV variable. Am I right? I think it
should be fairly possible. It is just a matter of time. I'm not sure, If
I can push that before 2.8.2, but definitely possible for further
releases on stable, if the release team approves them too :).

Thanks
Srini.
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 10:42 +0100, Francisco Javier F. Serrador wrote:
> In my opinion, I prefer an English string displayed than a difficult to
> solve crash. Most users I think are not going to be able to handle OOM
> condition by typing on a terminal or modifying gconf values.
> 
> Just my 2 cents of Euro ;-)
> 
> El vie, 17-11-2006 a las 11:59 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan escribió:
> > f you receive a mail that has inline text of more than few MBs [Vary
> > depending on your RAM/Swap size] it just hogs your desktop and
> > Evolution
> > is totally unusable after that.
> > 
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337439 has the details about
> > the bug. I have put a patch, which now shows a warning about the issue
> > and gives a option to view the message unformatted/plain text or with
> > an
> > external viewer.
> > 
> > I have attached a screen shot at the bugzilla. It will go to HEAD, but
> > it will be nice, If I can push this to 2.8.2 which is due Monday. Can
> > this be committed to STABLE?
> > 
> > Please let me know, if you any questions.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Srini. 

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Re: Request for UI and String freeze break for DoS bug

2006-11-17 Thread Francisco Javier F. Serrador
In my opinion, I prefer an English string displayed than a difficult to
solve crash. Most users I think are not going to be able to handle OOM
condition by typing on a terminal or modifying gconf values.

Just my 2 cents of Euro ;-)

El vie, 17-11-2006 a las 11:59 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan escribió:
> f you receive a mail that has inline text of more than few MBs [Vary
> depending on your RAM/Swap size] it just hogs your desktop and
> Evolution
> is totally unusable after that.
> 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337439 has the details about
> the bug. I have put a patch, which now shows a warning about the issue
> and gives a option to view the message unformatted/plain text or with
> an
> external viewer.
> 
> I have attached a screen shot at the bugzilla. It will go to HEAD, but
> it will be nice, If I can push this to 2.8.2 which is due Monday. Can
> this be committed to STABLE?
> 
> Please let me know, if you any questions.
> 
> Thanks
> Srini. 
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