Re: Translated files need to be committed

2008-07-23 Thread Gil Forcada
Done :)

Cheers,

El dc 23 de 07 de 2008 a les 09:50 -0700, en/na Zabeeh khan va escriure:
> I have translated Evolution, glib and gnome-session to Pashto and have
> attached them to bug number:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=544386
> 
> Someone please commit them.
> 
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-backgrounds.HEAD'

2008-07-23 Thread Claude Paroz
Le mer 23 jui 2008 03:02:08 CEST, "Leonardo F. Fontenelle"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:



Em Ter, 2008-07-22 às 22:48 +0200, Claude Paroz escreveu:

Le mar 22 jui 2008 22:09:39 CEST, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
>
> I'm not quite sure I follow, we are only in string change announcement
> period, and I was just about to announce these changes. These changes
> are for 2.23.
>
> Please explain if I have missed something.

The problem is that strings from gnome-backgrounds didn't change for
long, and are freezed from GNOME 2.12 on!
If you want to change/add strings, you'll have to branch
gnome-backgrounds first (probably a gnome-2-22 branch).



Maybe there's no need for branching (this time). GNOME 2.22.3 was
already released, so this "string freeze break" won't affect anyone. It
surely would be unnacceptable if the strings were added before we
released GNOME 2.22.3. IIRC, gnome-user-docs don't branch because it's
updated only after GNOME 2.xx.3 is released.


gnome-user-docs has no UI strings, it contains only help content. And  
to my great despair, help content is not subject to string freezes :-P


Claude
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-backgrounds.HEAD'

2008-07-23 Thread Claude Paroz

Le mer 23 jui 2008 11:55:49 CEST, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:


On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 22:02 -0300, Leonardo F. Fontenelle wrote:

Em Ter, 2008-07-22 às 22:48 +0200, Claude Paroz escreveu:
> Le mar 22 jui 2008 22:09:39 CEST, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:

[...]

> The problem is that strings from gnome-backgrounds didn't change for
> long, and are freezed from GNOME 2.12 on!
> If you want to change/add strings, you'll have to branch
> gnome-backgrounds first (probably a gnome-2-22 branch).
>

Maybe there's no need for branching (this time). GNOME 2.22.3 was
already released, so this "string freeze break" won't affect anyone. It
surely would be unnacceptable if the strings were added before we
released GNOME 2.22.3. IIRC, gnome-user-docs don't branch because it's
updated only after GNOME 2.xx.3 is released.



Exactly, I wasn't planning on doing any concurrent development, so I
didn't see any need to branch. I specifically timed my changes so they
where after the last stable release of 2.22.

We are currently in a period where there are no string freezes in place
(except perhaps for stable branches, where they exist). I suggest that
your string freeze notification script is slightly broken for the case
that a module does not make a stable branch!

Regards,

Thomas


Please read
http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes

Read especially the section "What happens if I break the string freeze
without approval?" :-)

More seriously, once a module's trunk is stringfreezed, only the branch
operation can "defreeze" it. That's the policy we try to enforce for
years now.

Claude
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Translated files need to be committed

2008-07-23 Thread Zabeeh khan
I have translated Evolution, glib and gnome-session to Pashto and have
attached them to bug number:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=544386

Someone please commit them.
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-backgrounds.HEAD'

2008-07-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008, à 10:55 +0100, Thomas Wood a écrit :
> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 22:02 -0300, Leonardo F. Fontenelle wrote:
> > Em Ter, 2008-07-22 às 22:48 +0200, Claude Paroz escreveu:
> > > Le mar 22 jui 2008 22:09:39 CEST, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
> [...]
> > > The problem is that strings from gnome-backgrounds didn't change for  
> > > long, and are freezed from GNOME 2.12 on!
> > > If you want to change/add strings, you'll have to branch  
> > > gnome-backgrounds first (probably a gnome-2-22 branch).
> > > 
> > 
> > Maybe there's no need for branching (this time). GNOME 2.22.3 was
> > already released, so this "string freeze break" won't affect anyone. It
> > surely would be unnacceptable if the strings were added before we
> > released GNOME 2.22.3. IIRC, gnome-user-docs don't branch because it's
> > updated only after GNOME 2.xx.3 is released.
> > 
> 
> Exactly, I wasn't planning on doing any concurrent development, so I
> didn't see any need to branch. I specifically timed my changes so they
> where after the last stable release of 2.22.
> 
> We are currently in a period where there are no string freezes in place
> (except perhaps for stable branches, where they exist). I suggest that
> your string freeze notification script is slightly broken for the case
> that a module does not make a stable branch!

Well, the fact that there's no more GNOME 2.22.x release doesn't mean
there won't be any new gnome-backgrounds 2.22.x release (although I'm
the first one to admit that there won't be any new gnome-backgrounds
2.22.x release ;-)). I can also think of distributors who will download
translations from trunk thinking they'll get translations for 2.22 while
they'll get translations for 2.23...

So a stable branch is still welcome.

Vincent

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Current state of gnome-session 2.23.x -> 2.24

2008-07-23 Thread Ghee Teo
Some of us has concerns about the state of gnome-session,  follow is a 
irc chat today with the gnome-session maintainer, Vincent Vuntz,

just FYI,
Key points: (1) gnome-session-remove is removed by mistake, should be 
fixed as a bug.

  (2) default.session is gone for good
  (3) Current session tab is also gone (replace by 
gnome-system-monitor)
   
-Ghee


(09:25:11) *gheet1:* question for you about gnome-session
(09:25:24) *gheet1:* who is wokring on that session management?
(09:25:41) *gheet1:* it has broken so many things :/
(09:26:13) *vuntz:* we're in the process on fixing this
(09:26:23) *vuntz:* I'm supposed to have time to work on it now, 
although I didn't have time yet

(09:26:27) *vuntz:* what is broken for you?
(09:26:44) *gheet1:* oh you are working on it :)
(09:27:21) *gheet1:* current session is not viable, gnome-session-remove 
is gone, default.session file is gone

(09:27:39) *gheet1:* I don't know how to manage application any more :)
(09:28:33) *gheet1:* s/viable/available
(09:33:08) *vuntz:* default.session shouldn't be needed
(09:33:14) *vuntz:* (ie, use autostart applications)
(09:33:28) *vuntz:* gnome-session-remove missing is a "bug" (not 
reimplemented yet)

(09:33:40) *vuntz:* and why is it not viable?
(09:34:23) *gheet1:* I meant not available in the 
gnom-session-properties tab

(09:34:47) *gheet1:* so we will have gnome-session-remove later :)
(09:36:55) *vuntz:* oh, you mean the tab listing all the applications in 
the current session?

(09:37:02) *gheet1:* yes
(09:37:10) *vuntz:* this was going away anyway
(09:37:18) *vuntz:* it should be implemented in gnome-system-monitor
(09:38:44) *gheet1:* In the process tab of g-s-m ?
(09:39:23) *gheet1:* ok, saw that
(09:40:01) *gheet1:* Is there a pointer to discussion on the application 
session management will be done?

(09:42:28) *vuntz:* there's something on the wiki
(09:42:50) *vuntz:* http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession
(09:46:09) *gheet1:* thanks! I am glad you are on the radar, I trust you 
won't let gnome-sesion break for 2.24 :)

(09:46:24) *gheet1:* Vuntz is becoming a valuable brand name
(09:47:35) *gheet1:* One last question, is XSMP is still the protocol 
for session management in 2.24?

(09:52:40) *vuntz:* yes
(09:52:47) *vuntz:* there might be an alternate dbus one
(09:52:56) *vuntz:* but the main one will still be 2.24
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Re: Python library for reading and writing OP files

2008-07-23 Thread Axel Hecht
You don't need all of pootle, just the translate toolkit,
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/, which pootle is built upon.
That's still more than you need, but at least it's there.

Axel

2008/7/23 Åsmund Skjæveland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is there a Python library for reading and writing PO files? I'm looking for
> something that will give me something like an object containing (msgids,
> msgstrs, isFuzzy, isObsolete) for each msgid (with plural support), and will
> write such strings to a PO file. As far as Google will tell me[1] there's
> not too much around, but I think what I'm looking for is hidden inside
> Pootle. Basically, is what I'm looking for available as a standalone module,
> or will I have to disassemble Pootle?
>
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>
> [1] "google:python po file parser" and similar queries was remarkably
> unhelpful.
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-backgrounds.HEAD'

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Wood
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 22:02 -0300, Leonardo F. Fontenelle wrote:
> Em Ter, 2008-07-22 às 22:48 +0200, Claude Paroz escreveu:
> > Le mar 22 jui 2008 22:09:39 CEST, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
[...]
> > The problem is that strings from gnome-backgrounds didn't change for  
> > long, and are freezed from GNOME 2.12 on!
> > If you want to change/add strings, you'll have to branch  
> > gnome-backgrounds first (probably a gnome-2-22 branch).
> > 
> 
> Maybe there's no need for branching (this time). GNOME 2.22.3 was
> already released, so this "string freeze break" won't affect anyone. It
> surely would be unnacceptable if the strings were added before we
> released GNOME 2.22.3. IIRC, gnome-user-docs don't branch because it's
> updated only after GNOME 2.xx.3 is released.
> 

Exactly, I wasn't planning on doing any concurrent development, so I
didn't see any need to branch. I specifically timed my changes so they
where after the last stable release of 2.22.

We are currently in a period where there are no string freezes in place
(except perhaps for stable branches, where they exist). I suggest that
your string freeze notification script is slightly broken for the case
that a module does not make a stable branch!

Regards,

Thomas

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Python library for reading and writing OP files

2008-07-23 Thread Åsmund Skjæveland
Is there a Python library for reading and writing PO files? I'm looking 
for something that will give me something like an object containing 
(msgids, msgstrs, isFuzzy, isObsolete) for each msgid (with plural 
support), and will write such strings to a PO file. As far as Google 
will tell me[1] there's not too much around, but I think what I'm 
looking for is hidden inside Pootle. Basically, is what I'm looking for 
available as a standalone module, or will I have to disassemble Pootle?


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[1] "google:python po file parser" and similar queries was remarkably 
unhelpful.

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Re: packagekit, gnome-packagekit - where to submit translations

2008-07-23 Thread Gil Forcada
For the gnome-packagekit you can submit the translations as usual to
GNOME's Subversion repository (as any other module like epiphany, gtk+,
evolution, et al).

For packagekit itself, fill a bug in bugs.freedesktop.org with your
translation :)

Cheers,

El dc 23 de 07 de 2008 a les 09:09 +0300, en/na Александър Шопов va
escriure:
> Does anyone know what is the proper way and place to submit translations
> to these two projects?
> al_shopov
> http://www.packagekit.org/pk-faq.html#translation
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