Question about committer versus coordinator
So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Thanks for helping me learn more about how things work in the vertimus workfow. cjl ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Thanks for helping me learn more about how things work in the vertimus workfow. Then the coordinator will have to do the commits himself. The commiter role is only there to have trusted people that can assist the coordinator, not to add an administrative level. -- Alexandre Franke ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
Le 03/10/2012 10:44, Chris Leonard a écrit : So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Just ask on this list for help for the commit and someone will do the job. But please, join links to the modules marked as ready for commit Bruno Thanks for helping me learn more about how things work in the vertimus workfow. cjl ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Bruno Brouard anno...@gmail.com wrote: Le 03/10/2012 10:44, Chris Leonard a écrit : So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Just ask on this list for help for the commit and someone will do the job. But please, join links to the modules marked as ready for commit Bruno Bruno, Thanks. The Coordinator has applied for a commit account, in the meantime, if someone could commit the following which are flagged as ready to commit that would be great. http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/PolicyKit-gnome/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/empathy/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/eog/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evince/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gedit/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/master/po-tags/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-bluetooth/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-control-center/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-disk-utility/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-games/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-media/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-nettool/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-power-manager/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-screensaver/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-session/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-settings-daemon/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-system-monitor/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-user-share/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-vfs/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/master/po-properties/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libbonobo/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libbonoboui/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libgnomekbd/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libgnomeui/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libwnck/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/nautilus-sendto/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/network-manager-applet/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/packagekit/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/vino/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/xdg-user-dirs/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/yelp/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/yelp-xsl/master/po/km ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
El dc 03 de 10 de 2012 a les 12:19 +0200, en/na Bruno Brouard va escriure: Le 03/10/2012 10:44, Chris Leonard a écrit : So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Just ask on this list for help for the commit and someone will do the job. But please, join links to the modules marked as ready for commit +1 That's what I think about it: - Coordinator is the one that approves translations to be pushed to git - Only coordinator and any committer are the ones that should be able to push to git - In case of no coordinator git access and no committer, the coordinator, and only him/herself should be the one sending batch mails with translations ready to push I put emphasis on this last one because if a random translator for a random language send translations to push, I don't know the status of that translation, if is good enough, if has bad wordings, etc etc. That's why we have coordinators. And that's the main reason that I think of a coordinator not as a emeritus status but as someone that is there 90% of the time. If you are not able to coordinate your translation community and be sure that translations, when ready, are pushed to git, that coordinator should start looking for a replacement. At the end of the day, a translation not pushed is time wasted because users will not see it. A coordinator has to make sure that everything goes as smoothly as possible ;) Cheers, Bruno Thanks for helping me learn more about how things work in the vertimus workfow. cjl -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Damned Lies and roles
Hi everyone! In Damned Lies, I'm project manager for my language, but I have several translators marked as inactive and I can't change their roles. What I shall do so I can change their roles and mark as active? Respectfully, Peteris Krisjanis, GNOME latviski | GNOME in Latvian ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
El dc 03 de 10 de 2012 a les 14:47 +0300, en/na Peteris Krisjanis va escriure: Hi everyone! In Damned Lies, I'm project manager for my language, but I have several translators marked as inactive and I can't change their roles. What I shall do so I can change their roles and mark as active? Hi! Short answer: nothing :) Long answer: You do not have to mark them as active, the activeness in D-L terms means when they have logged in. So just ask your team members to log in on D-L and they will become active again :) Cheers, Respectfully, Peteris Krisjanis, GNOME latviski | GNOME in Latvian -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
T , 2012-10-03 14:06 +0200, Gil Forcada rakstīja: You do not have to mark them as active, the activeness in D-L terms means when they have logged in. So just ask your team members to log in on D-L and they will become active again :) Seems login is not enough. Some other activity, like writing a comment is needed. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
Le 03/10/2012 14:13, Rūdolfs Mazurs a écrit : T , 2012-10-03 14:06 +0200, Gil Forcada rakstīja: You do not have to mark them as active, the activeness in D-L terms means when they have logged in. So just ask your team members to log in on D-L and they will become active again :) Seems login is not enough. Some other activity, like writing a comment is needed. hopefully ! Active state is not just to say to some friends hey guy, look at here, i am working for you ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
T , 2012-10-03 14:48 +0200, Bruno Brouard rakstīja: Active state is not just to say to some friends hey guy, look at here, i am working for you I guess there is a big difference between active translator and active damn lies user. Since committer can skip all the D-L proces and work with git directly, the system might just not notice the activity. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
Le 03/10/2012 15:00, Rūdolfs Mazurs a écrit : T , 2012-10-03 14:48 +0200, Bruno Brouard rakstīja: Active state is not just to say to some friends hey guy, look at here, i am working for you I guess there is a big difference between active translator and active damn lies user. Since committer can skip all the D-L proces and work with git directly, the system might just not notice the activity. I believe (see DL developpers) that only translator can be inactive. Reviewer and commiter are always active. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Damned Lies and roles
Le mercredi 03 octobre 2012 à 15:56 +0200, Bruno Brouard a écrit : Le 03/10/2012 15:00, Rūdolfs Mazurs a écrit : T , 2012-10-03 14:48 +0200, Bruno Brouard rakstīja: Active state is not just to say to some friends hey guy, look at here, i am working for you I guess there is a big difference between active translator and active damn lies user. Since committer can skip all the D-L proces and work with git directly, the system might just not notice the activity. I believe (see DL developpers) that only translator can be inactive. Reviewer and commiter are always active. No, we don't differentiate them for activity status. Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote: El dc 03 de 10 de 2012 a les 12:19 +0200, en/na Bruno Brouard va escriure: Le 03/10/2012 10:44, Chris Leonard a écrit : So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Just ask on this list for help for the commit and someone will do the job. But please, join links to the modules marked as ready for commit +1 That's what I think about it: - Coordinator is the one that approves translations to be pushed to git - Only coordinator and any committer are the ones that should be able to push to git - In case of no coordinator git access and no committer, the coordinator, and only him/herself should be the one sending batch mails with translations ready to push I don't disagree, however in this case, I was giving notification of PO files that the coordinator had manually flagged for commit. I put emphasis on this last one because if a random translator for a random language send translations to push, I don't know the status of that translation, if is good enough, if has bad wordings, etc etc. That's why we have coordinators. And that's the main reason that I think of a coordinator not as a emeritus status but as someone that is there 90% of the time. If you are not able to coordinate your translation community and be sure that translations, when ready, are pushed to git, that coordinator should start looking for a replacement. As a general principle. I agree. The sad reality is tha there are any number of low coverage languages that simply do not have the sort of internet presence to sustain that standard, but they are no less worthy of following a slower course to increasing coverage. I many cases there may be only one or two individuals working on their language across a wide swath of FOSS projects and they may not have the bandwidth to dedicate constant attention only to a single project, no matter how important it may be. In such circumstances I think allowances must be made for long latency and some administrative assistance form the 18n leadership. Those opinions have largely been formed over the past several years in the process of nurturing and mentoring under-represented languages on the Sugar Labs Pootle instance. cjl ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
GParted 0.14.0 to be Released October 10, 2012
Hello Translation Teams, GParted version 0.14.0 is planned for release on Wednesday, October 10, 2012. All language translations completed prior to this date will be included in this release. Thank you for your language translation efforts. Sincerely, Curtis Gedak (Maintainer of GParted) ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
[gnome-disk-utility] Created branch gnome-3-6
The branch 'gnome-3-6' was created pointing to: 2ebd40d... Post-release version bump to 3.6.2 ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Question about committer versus coordinator
El dc 03 de 10 de 2012 a les 06:45 -0400, en/na Chris Leonard va escriure: On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Bruno Brouard anno...@gmail.com wrote: Le 03/10/2012 10:44, Chris Leonard a écrit : So what happens when a team has a coordinator, but not a committer (like Khmer)? The Coordinator has marked a number of PO files for commit in vertimus, http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/km/all/ui/ If a team does not have a committer, will someone else commit those on the Coordinator's request or does each team require a committer? Just ask on this list for help for the commit and someone will do the job. But please, join links to the modules marked as ready for commit Bruno Bruno, Thanks. The Coordinator has applied for a commit account, in the meantime, if someone could commit the following which are flagged as ready to commit that would be great. http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/PolicyKit-gnome/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/empathy/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/eog/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evince/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gedit/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/master/po-tags/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-bluetooth/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-control-center/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-disk-utility/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-games/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-media/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-nettool/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-power-manager/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-screensaver/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-session/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-settings-daemon/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-system-monitor/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-user-share/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-vfs/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/master/po-properties/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libbonobo/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libbonoboui/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libgnomekbd/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libgnomeui/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/libwnck/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/nautilus-sendto/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/network-manager-applet/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/packagekit/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/vino/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/xdg-user-dirs/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/yelp/master/po/km http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/yelp-xsl/master/po/km I think that apart from xdg-user-dirs and packagekit (both external platforms), everything is pushed. Amazing work! from ~20% to +50%!! Cheers, -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
