Re: Missing devhelp branches

[Frederic Peters]

Ho,

> The latest commit to devhelp broke the string freeze. It seems that
> gnome-3-20 and gnome-3-22 branches are missing. Could you please
> branch devhelp at appropriate commits?

Sorry about that, I have now pushed branches.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-22

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The branch 'gnome-3-22' was created pointing to:

 6dbf7d7... sidebar: handle finalize with NULL GCompletion

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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-20

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The branch 'gnome-3-20' was created pointing to:

 904a685... Add Language headers to po files

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Re: 3.22 Release Notes Available to Translate

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Piotr,

> I committed some translated screenshots, but they are not shown on
> https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.22/index.html.pl - is this
> expected, or something we could fix?

It relies on browser content negotiation, the translated screenshot
appeared after I manually set Polish in https://help.gnome.org/languages
I just checked and it also worked after I set Polish as preferred language
in the browser.

Unfortunately it's not enough to link to the .html.pl file.


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Re: Freeze break request for GNOME Nibbles

[Frederic Peters]

Michael Catanzaro wrote:

> I'd like to push the Nibbles patches in these i18n bugs:
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763905
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763906
> 
> The first patch adds a few colors ("red" "green" "blue" "yellow" "cyan"
> "purple") as new translatable strings. Apologies for the very late
> string additions; the strings are already displayed in the UI, but not
> currently marked for translation.

Marking existing strings as translatable is not a freeze break.


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Re: 3.20 release notes available for translation

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

Allan Day wrote:
> The text of the 3.20 release notes is now done and is ready to be
> translated. There are some missing screenshots: we'll try and get
> those included as soon as possible. The release notes can be found in
> the usual place:
> 
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/log/?h=gnome-3-20
> 
> The release is scheduled for 23rd March, which is one week from today.
> 
> Just let me know if you have any questions, or if you spot any problems.

And I just enabled https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.20/


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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-control-center and gnome-desktop

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Since the translators are ok with it, here is +1 of 2 for the release team

ditto.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-18

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The branch 'gnome-3-18' was created pointing to:

 88e6951... Updated Thai translation

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Re: gnome-online-accounts: Permission to merge the Last.fm provider

[Frederic Peters]

Javier Jardón wrote:

> > The code is optional and not enabled by default, but having it merged
> > would make it easier to proceed with the required work on grilo and
> > gnome-music.
> [...]
> Its a bit late to add new features, but I trust you and Bastien this
> has been properly tested:
> 
> 1/2 for release team

As it's hardly a feature if it's not enabled this doesn't even require
an approval by the release team (imo).

Still, 2/2.


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Re: Freeze break request for Maps

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
> There you go +1

Sorry I didn't mention that, the gnome-i18n approvals have to come
from the coordination team.
  (https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/CoordinationTeam)



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Re: Freeze break request for Maps

[Frederic Peters]

Piotr Drąg wrote:

> 2015-09-07 20:21 GMT+02:00 Jonas Danielsson :
> > I would like a freeze break for Maps. I would like to add the command
> > line option '--local' to use local tiles from a directory supplied.
[...]
> > In lib/maps-file-tile-source.c:
> > "Failed to find tile structure in directory"
[...]
> The --local switch description ('A path to a local tiles directory
> structure') should be marked for translation as well, if it's visible
> to the user (in --help, I guess?).
> 
> Provided this gets fixed, I give 1/2 from i18n, as it's a low profile
> change that brings enough value.

Any other +1 from gnome-i18n?


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Re: Boxes: UI freeze exception needed

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Zeeshan,

 One of the main things my SoC student, Adrien Plazas has been working
 on as part of his project was to add a list view to Boxes:
 
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733252
 
 since it's a very much in demand feature, I'd like it to be included
 in 3.18. Hence this email. :)
 Screenshot is attached to the bug.

(In French, dated March 2015, a recent screenshot would be nice.)


 FWIW, we tried our best to get it finished before freeze but I guess
 plans are bound to fail when it comes to deadlines.

Let's get this in. (+1 for the release team)


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-16

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The branch 'gnome-3-16' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  33756ee... remove executable bit of po/uk.po
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Re: String additions to 'devhelp.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:

 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'devhelp.master':
 
 + Devhelp Website

Sorry about that, I thought I had already pushed the 3.16 branch.
I just did so.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-14

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The branch 'gnome-3-14' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  d60ffbc... remove executable bit of po/uk.po
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Re: String additions to 'devhelp.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Piotr Drąg wrote:

  Sorry about that, I thought I had already pushed the 3.16 branch.
  I just did so.
 
 Hi Frederic,
 
 Could you also push th 3.14 branch? This appears to be the last commit
 suitable for this branch:
 
 https://git.gnome.org/browse/devhelp/commit/?id=0e0f677be916b84ddf6dfd16de06cdfccfbbcb87

Sure, done.


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Re: String additions to 'zenity.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Arx,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'zenity.master':
 
 + Add extra-button
 + Supress ok and cancel buttons

Could you please branch zenity for gnome-3-16 before that commit?

Also, it should be suppress, double p.


Thanks!
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-tweak-tool.gnome-3-16'

[Frederic Peters]

Alexander Shopov wrote:
  we have until 3.16.2
 I see no .2 here https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointFifteen

Indeed, as it overlaps with the 3.17 schedule it's typically included
in that one, but it's not published yet.

 Does anyone have more info on timeline?

It is 4 weeks after .1, that would be tarballs due on May 11th.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-tweak-tool.gnome-3-16'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Rui,

Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM, GNOME Status Pages nore...@gnome.org wrote:
  There have been following string additions to module 
  'gnome-tweak-tool.gnome-3-16':
 
  + Don't suspend on lid close
 
 Hi, I'm aware that this breaks string freeze but the patches have been
 in bugzilla for a long time and the UI looks buggy without something
 like this so I decided to push and include it in 3.16.1 .
 
 I'll leave you some time to push translations before cutting the release.

Really, please try to follow the agreed practices (freezes and
schedules) they are quite essential to the general quality of what we
deliver to users.

In this case I am pretty sure translators would have been ok if that
had been asked soon after 3.16.0, with enough time before 3.16.1.



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Re: String additions to 'gnome-control-center.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We are missing gnome-3-16 branch for g-c-c

Those are the strings that Richard Hughes asked for inclusion, and got
permission.


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Re: 3.16 freeze break request for gnome-control-center

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Richard,

Richard Hughes wrote:
 Regarding https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746907
 
 Basically, if you search for settings you get an application that
 has no description, and the software center lets you remove it. This
 is super bad as removing gnome-control-center takes half of gnome with
 it...
 
 If you'd rather, I can just backport the AppData file without the new
 strings, although then it will only show the C version.

The freeze break idea is all about giving translators enough time to
provide our users a translated interface. In that sense it is not just
about adding new translatable strings, it is about all new strings
that would be exposed to the user.  So no, showing the C version is
not an alternative.

Important data point for translators, 3.16.1 is scheduled for April
13th.  (in my opinion it would be nice to have an answer quickly so
the strings can be added and translated in time).


Back to the bug report, I would agree with Bastien, Why is
gnome-control-center even visible in Software?; can't you just
blacklist it?


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Re: g-c-c UI freeze break request - bug 743400

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:
  I'd like to push the patches in
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743400 .
 
  There's a screenshot with changes there. Those patches also add new
  translatable strings for a11y purposes.
 
 +1 from me for the release team. I'll point out that this (being able
 to reorder input sources) was an explicit feature request from the
 Fedora i18n team.

That's also fine for me.

@docs, keyboard-layouts.page doesn't have a screenshot of that panel,
could gain a remark about reordering layouts but is stil fine as is.


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Re: Boxes: UI freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
 zeesha...@gnome.org wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I wanted to ask for a UI freeze break for the following bug:
 
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738517
 
  The only change that I'd call an actual UI break is addition of string
  No snapshots created yet. Create one using the button below. to the
  snapshots view when no snapshots are available.
 
  I'll attach screenshot to bug after sending this mail.
 
 
 Thanks for the screenshots. +1 for the release team. Seems harmless,
 and a clear improvement.

Seconded.

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Re: String additions to 'gedit.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gedit.master':
 
 + 8

This is from
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/commit/?id=567e1b3e53fa07c720c7fd62a33259209bc15c27

+  object class=GtkSpinButton id=tabs_width_spinbutton
+property name=visibleTrue/property
+property name=can_focusTrue/property
+property name=halignstart/property
+property name=hexpandTrue/property
+property name=invisible_char●/property
+property name=text translatable=yes8/property
+property name=adjustmentadjustment2/property
+property name=climb_rate1/property
+property name=numericTrue/property
+property name=value8/property

I guess it doesn't have to be translatable.


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Re: String additions to 'gedit.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Ignacio Casal Quinteiro wrote:
 damn glade, thanks Frederic I'll fix it.

Thanks; and for the record there's a 1 in the following commit that
also slipped in.


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release notes: updated git stats

[Frederic Peters]

Hey,

I have just updated the git numbers for the introduction paragraph of
the release notes; unfortunately it will mark the string as fuzzy in
translations, sorry about that.


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Re: freeze break requests for gnome-initial-setup

[Frederic Peters]

Javier Jardón wrote:

 On 17 September 2014 01:44, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote:
  gnome-initial-setup is getting some attention. Unfortunately it is
  very late in the cycle, but better late than never.
 
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734808 has a few patches
  from Allan and myself which help addressing window size issues for
  gnome-initial-setup. It was coming up taller than 768 pixels. The main
  size reduction patches have already gone into the release I made
  yesterday for .92. Whats left there now is some cosmetic cleanup
  patches to adjust padding and alignment on some of the pages.  These
  can be safely deferred until .1, but the patches are pretty safe.
 
 Id like to have an screenshot, but I trust you and Allan that the
 final result looks good
 Only for curiosity; What is the final size in pixels?

I can't give the precise number but given comment 12 it will probably
be around 760px, Bastien asked for 600px (that was a common height of
netbooks) but that's not considered doable without much larger
changes.

 1/2 for release team

2/2.



  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736764 has patches by Rui
  to remove filtering of IBus input sources. This follows a similar
  patch that we've applied in .91 to remove filtering of keyboard
  layouts - the idea here is that if the user asks to see more input
  sources by clicking on the more button, it is better to show all we
  have than to possibly filter out the one input source he was looking
  for. This patch removes an annoyance that has been reported in the
  Fedora 21 GNOME test day - not super-important, but nice to have.
 
 Patches are small and its a good improvement to complete the work
 started in #729208.
 1/2 for release team

I would be the maintainer I would nitpick as there are places where
indendation is made using spaces while the rest of the file is using
tabs.

But 2/2 nevertheless.


  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736763 has patches also by
  Rui to fix a bug wrt to locale changes - we were not actually showing
  the right input sources for the locale that the user just selected.
  This is a case where our well-intentioned attempt to show the relevant
  input sources has backfired to create confusion that actively prevents
  users from finding their input source. We should take this one.
 
 Small patch and makes sense
 1/2 for release team

2/2.


Of course it would be nice if a .92 tarball could be created soon
enough to be included in the release.


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Re: Orca: String-freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Piñeiro wrote:
 
 On 09/07/2014 12:07 PM, Alexandre Franke wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com wrote:
  2014-09-07 2:45 GMT+02:00 Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com:
  TL;DR: No good deed goes unpunished. Please, please grant this request.
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736214
 
  1/2 from i18n.
  2/2.
 
 1/2 from release-team

For the record approval from the i18n coordination team is enough for
string breaks; a notification to the release team is enough.


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Re: Freeze exceptions for gnome-maps

[Frederic Peters]

Jonas Danielsson wrote:
 2014-08-29 4:14 GMT-04:00 Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org:
  Hi,
 
 
 Hi!
 
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731068 - is the via points
  in routing.
 
  The patches are not marked as accepted.
 
 They are now, any chance of a +2? If so they will be included in the
 (delayed, sorry!) 3.13.91 I will put together tonight.

I've built it, here's the second +1.


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Re: Freeze exceptions for gnome-maps

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

Jonas Danielsson wrote:
 The bugs:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722871 - is the GtkPopover one

Fine.


 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731068 - is the via points
 in routing.

The patches are not marked as accepted.


And https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731113 (check-in), I'd
be with Matthias on that one, I would delay it as it depends on
changes in goa (and a GNOME foundation account at foursquare).


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Re: Gnome Boxes freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Zeeshan,

  [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710306
 
  Hey Tim, sorry for being late with replies to freeze break requests.
 
  I'll grant you a +1 for the release team (selfishly, since I really
  really want this feature).

I'll second this.


 Thanks. While we await the second ack from release-team, I was hoping
 I can ask for another break:
 
 Put wizard  properties in a dialog -
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733367

Patches should ideally be marked as accepted before a freeze break is
requested; but if designers have tested it and are fine with it,
that's fine for me.

Are the issues you're planning to fixes those mentioned in
https://bug733367.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=284772 ?



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Re: Is Hitori a new GNOME 3-14 module?

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Michael,

Michael Catanzaro wrote:
 On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 23:37 +0100, Philip Withnall wrote:
  The plan (from the GNOME Games team, who are now co-maintaining
  Hitori)
  is for Hitori to be part of 3.14, yes.
  
  Michael, did you poke the release team about this?
  
  Philip
 
 I added it to gnome-apps, but not yet to meta-gnome-apps-tested, which I
 think is where it needs to go to show up in the official releases.
 
 Matthias, anything else we need to do to get this into
 meta-gnome-apps-tested, besides make a release with a 3.13 version
 number? Would be awesome to get Hitori into GNOME 3.13.4.

You could create a page on https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features
with the plans for games, then send an email to release-team@.


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Re: Is Hitori a new GNOME 3-14 module?

[Frederic Peters]

Michael Catanzaro wrote:
 Hi release team,
 
 I created a feature proposal to add a new game, GNOME Hitori [1], to
 GNOME 3.14. Hitori has been hosted on the GNOME infrastructure for a
 while and fits right in with the 15 games that are already released with
 GNOME.
 
 Since it's well past the feature proposal deadline, I understand if it
 needs to wait until 3.16.

Oh, don't worry about that deadline, it will be just fine for 3.14.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-12

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The branch 'gnome-3-12' was created pointing to:

 d57c948... post release version bump

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Marek,

Marek Černocký wrote:
 Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User
 visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak
 release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong.

Indeed, the way branching happened on the server caused that, thanks
for noticing, I have now manually removed *.sk files (and then checked
for other languages with the problem and removed *.da, *.el, and *.id).


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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

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Rafael Ferreira wrote:
 Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing
 https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I
 see it in English.  To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append
 index.html.pt_BR to the URL..

This is based on content-negociation so it should happen automatically
if your browser is configured correctly; but in your specific case
maybe there's a misconfiguration on the server and a mismatch between
pt-br and pt_BR.

(CC to Andrea Veri, he could probably tell)


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-initial-setup

[Frederic Peters]

Kalev Lember wrote:

 I would like to land gnome-initial-setup's wip/timezone branch before
 the .92 release. This unfortunately adds a new translatable string:
 
 _(We think that your time zone is %s. Press Next to continue
or search for a city to manually set the time zone.)
 
 I know it's coming late, but it would be great to have this in the final
 release.

fwiw that string was almost there in the past (between Oct 24th and
Nov 1st) and I could find existing translations in the current .po
files for as, es, fi, gl, and tg.



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Re: Coordination-list, still needed

[Frederic Peters]

Johannes Schmid wrote:

  Is it possible for you to just reject the spammers?
  If so, I have similar problems, and would like any info you have on
  doing that. How do people/crawlers get info on the list?
  Maybe you could remove such info.
 
 While you can mass reject mail, mailman doesn't allow you to mass reject
 subscription requests which makes things annoying.

Actually I had the same problem on another of our list and Andrea
changed its settings to require the subscribers to confirm by email
first; this stopped the annoying fake requests. You should search for
subscription policy and change it to confirm and approve.


Hope it helps,

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-control-center.gnome-3-8'

[Frederic Peters]

Hello,

Jirka Klimes wrote:
 On Saturday 11 of January 2014 01:10:55 Frederic Peters wrote:
  Hello Jiří,
  
  GNOME Status Pages wrote:
   This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
   http://l10n.gnome.org.
   
   There have been following string additions to module
   'gnome-control-center.gnome-3-8':
   
   + Team slaves
  
  You pushed your change to master and also to the 3.8 and 3.10 branches,
  but those stable branches are string frozen; you commit thus broke the
  string freeze.  Please revert or ask for permission.
  
 
 Sorry, I didn't know the Gnome schedules, but the change adds a missing
 feature and should not be reverted.
 The change has been committed as per bgo #720312 by Bastien.

Per comment 8 Bastien agreed for the commit to go in master, and
that's fine, but he did not say anything about 3.8 and 3.10, and those
are string frozen, and you have to ask for permission before you add
new strings to those branches.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-control-center.gnome-3-8'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Bastien,

   You pushed your change to master and also to the 3.8 and 3.10 branches,
   but those stable branches are string frozen; you commit thus broke the
   string freeze.  Please revert or ask for permission.
   
  
  Sorry, I didn't know the Gnome schedules, but the change adds a missing
  feature and should not be reverted.
  The change has been committed as per bgo #720312 by Bastien.
 
 I've unmarked the string for translation in gnome-3-8 and gnome-3-10,
 which should be acceptable for now.

The point of the string freeze is not to have new English strings pop
up in the interface; intentionally not marking strings as translatable,
while they should be, is absolutely not a solution, and that's a
misconception that should have died years ago.

The options are simple, please revert or ask for permission.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-control-center.gnome-3-8'

[Frederic Peters]

Hello Jiří,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 
 'gnome-control-center.gnome-3-8':
 
 + Team slaves

You pushed your change to master and also to the 3.8 and 3.10 branches,
but those stable branches are string frozen; you commit thus broke the
string freeze.  Please revert or ask for permission.


Thanks,
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Re: Release notes didn´t compiled the locale images

[Frederic Peters]

Hello Andrea,

It seems something is broken with help.gnome.org language negociation,
could you have a look at it?


Thanks!


Fred

Enrico Nicoletto wrote:
 Hello Frederic and list,
 
 I checked again the Release Notes link and neither Brazilian
 Portuguese nor German release notes are showing properly the
 images...
 
 It seems that the content negociation is failing at some point...
 
 May someone inspect it again?
 
 Thanks a lot.
 Enrico Nicoletto
 
 
 Em 07/10/2013 13:43, Rafael Ferreira escreveu:
 Sadly, it is seems the problem persists -- pt_BR are not showing
 up. Is there anything that came be done?
 
 https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/index.html.pt_BR
 
 
 2013/9/24 Enrico Nicoletto live...@gmail.com mailto:live...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks for the explanation, Frederic.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Enrico.
 _
 
 Em 24/09/2013 09:30, Frederic Peters escreveu:
 
 Hi,
 
 Enrico Nicoletto wrote:
 
 Hi folks!
 
 When I accessed the compiled Release notes at this URL:
 https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/index.html.pt_BR
 I observed that it stills require password (that was
 previously
 shown in this list) but this required authentication
 unables the
 general audience to see the document.
 
 This is because 3.10 is not released yet; the page will be
 open once
 it's done.
 
 
 Another point I would like to state is that Release notes
 is not
 showing the pictures stored in locale´s picture folder,
 for example
 for pt_BR/figures and de/figures.
 
 This is supposed to work based on content negociation (e.g.
 
  https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/figures/header-bars.png
 should give you
 
  https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/figures/header-bars.png.pt_BR
 )
 
 I just checked the server configuration and I believe it has has
 proper lines:
AddLanguage pt-br .pt_BR
AddLanguage pt_BR .pt_BR
 
 
 
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Re: need clarification on gnome library web site

[Frederic Peters]

Hey Ignacio,

Andika Triwidada wrote:
 I can't understand this sentence:
 
 libgit2-glib is a glib library which wraps libgit2 providing making it easier
 to develop manage git repositories in a GObject oriented application.
 
 Could someone please explain what do providing making and
 to develop manage mean?

This description was extracted from the libglit2-glib description, and
needs some more words to make sense :)

Could you see to it?

Thanks!
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Re: need clarification on gnome library web site

[Frederic Peters]

I wrote:

 Hey Ignacio,
 
 Andika Triwidada wrote:
  I can't understand this sentence:
  
  libgit2-glib is a glib library which wraps libgit2 providing making it 
  easier
  to develop manage git repositories in a GObject oriented application.
  
  Could someone please explain what do providing making and
  to develop manage mean?
 
 This description was extracted from the libglit2-glib description, and
 needs some more words to make sense :)

(description from the .doap file, I forgot to say)


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Re: String freeze break for GNOME Shell

[Frederic Peters]

Hey,

  Hello translators and release managers,
 
  I'd like to request a string freeze break for two GNOME Shell bugs
  related to the new system status menu.
 
  - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709043 deals with status
  labels for network devices
 
  The added strings are:
 
  - Not Connected
  - Disabled
  - Hardware Disabled
 
  - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709246 deals with the
  links to the control center in the network device submenu
 
  The added strings are:
 
  - Mobile Broadband Settings
  - Wi-Fi Settings
 
 
 These are fine-tuning fixups for a big new design, so kinda expected.  I'll
 give my +1 for the release team, but obviously the main affected people are
 translators, so their vote will decide.
 
 I may suggest that we commit this to master anyway, and if translators are
 not comfortable with getting it in 3.10.1, we can revisit the question for
 3.10.2, and backport the (by then) existing translations from master...

The release team gave its approval but I didn't see any answer from
the i18n side; 3.10.1 is next week, this may be enough, or not, for
translations, but waiting more days will definitely give less chance
to a positive answer; could you give a look at this soon?

Thanks!


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-10

[Frederic Peters]

The branch 'gnome-3-10' was created pointing to:

 85f61a3... Updated German translation

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Re: Release notes didn´t copiled the locale images

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

Enrico Nicoletto wrote:
 Hi folks!
 
 When I accessed the compiled Release notes at this URL:
 https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/index.html.pt_BR
 I observed that it stills require password (that was previously
 shown in this list) but this required authentication unables the
 general audience to see the document.

This is because 3.10 is not released yet; the page will be open once
it's done.


 Another point I would like to state is that Release notes is not
 showing the pictures stored in locale´s picture folder, for example
 for pt_BR/figures and de/figures.

This is supposed to work based on content negociation (e.g.
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/figures/header-bars.png
should give you
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/figures/header-bars.png.pt_BR
)

I just checked the server configuration and I believe it has has
proper lines:
  AddLanguage pt-br .pt_BR
  AddLanguage pt_BR .pt_BR



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Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell-extensions.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 
 'gnome-shell-extensions.master':
 
 + Delay focus changes in mouse mode until the pointer stops moving

This is a string that was not marked for translation.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-shell.master':
 
 + Delay focus changes in mouse mode until the pointer stops moving

This is the same string as in gnome-shell-extensions, it was not
marked for translation.


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Re: Release Notes Available To Translate

[Frederic Peters]

Kenneth Nielsen wrote:
 I think usually don't we fix only errors that give a wrong meaning in the
 source and fix typos in the English translation?

That's usually what we do in the last few days, when we wouldn't risk
a language team missing the time to unfuzzy the string.


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Re: Release Notes Available To Translate

[Frederic Peters]

Fran Dieguez wrote:

 Is there any website to review our commited translations?
 I can't access to https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/

Is this just because it asks you for a password, or is there another
reason you can't access that URL?

Just like last year, username/password are gnome/ftw


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Re: Question about DOC_LINGUAS variable

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've noticed that nautilus-actions has changed the variable DOC_LINGUAS in
 the documentation's Makefile, so DL can't find the languages included on it.
 
 This is the declaration of the variable:
 
 DOC_LINGUAS = $(patsubst $(srcdir)/%,%,$(shell find $(srcdir) -mindepth 1
 -maxdepth 1 -type d | $(GREP) -v $(srcdir)/C))
 
 I guess it's ok to use to compile the documentation without worrying about
 if there is a missing language declared in this variable (indeed, it's a
 good idea), but if DL can't handle it, should it be changed to the
 traditional language list?

I know help.gnome.org (née library.gnome.org) won't handle it; I just
checked damned-lies (stats/utils.py, get_doc_linguas) and I believe it
will also fail on such a declaration.



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Re: Clocks late break request (geolocation)

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:

  The code is available on this git branch:
  https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-clocks/log/?h=wip/geoinfo
 
 Given that I have publicly pushed for this to make 3.10 [1], I feel
 that I can't really say no now, so here is my +1 for the release team.
 Lets hear what the translators say, though - just a clarification: the
 new string you mention is just the description of the setting, or does
 this show up in the UI ?
 
 [1] http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/08/23/gnome-3-10-sightings/

Second approval for RT.


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Re: gnome-control-center UI and string freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Marek Kasik wrote:
 Bug 698532 - Do not prompt for remote username / password when adding
 printer
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698532
 (screenshot -
 https://bug698532.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=253939)
 
 This change improves installing of printers shared on samba servers. It
 shows authenticated servers in the list of available devices and allows
 user to authenticate against them. The printers available on such
 servers are added to the list after authentication.
 I tried to do it as minimal as possible.
 
 This is an UI change and string change.
 
 The change was accepted by designers.

And I said last week it would be fine if it came early this week, so
here's the first release team approval.


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Re: git submodules vs translators

[Frederic Peters]

Colin Walters wrote:

 Any other thoughts?

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599066 is the request by
translators to be able to auto-commit files from damned lies, from
2009.

It would help here.


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Re: gnome-games: Code freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Jiro Matsuzawa wrote:

 (cc'd: games-list@, gnome-i18n@)
 
 Some game modules have a bug to show their po header entry when they
 print the command line help.
 The bugs have been filed with patches:
 gnome-mines: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695997
 gnome-klotski: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696038
 iagno: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696042
 gnome-mahjongg: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696043
 swell-foop: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696044
 
 I'd like to commit them. Is it okay?

Fine; 1 of 2 for release team.


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Re: State of nautilus-sendto for 3.8

[Frederic Peters]

Cosimo Cecchi wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@gnome.org wrote:
 
  Patches are on the bug report, feedback and comments appreciated.
 
  [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680983
 
 
 Any opinion on this?
 No 3.7 tarball of nautilus-sendto has been released yet, and I'm planning
 to release nautilus 3.7.92 later today, so there would still potentially be
 time for the change to be included in this release.
 
 Even if I didn't spell it explicitly in my previous message, the change
 implies an UI freeze break request for nautilus-sendto, and a string freeze
 break request for nautilus.

I'd prefer to remove nautilus-sendto from 3.8; it's in my opinion way
too late in the schedule to get those changes in and appropriately
tested.

Still, I'd let this slip in, be tested in .92, translated, and removed
from 3.8.0 if necessary.


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Re: Typo in Glade

[Frederic Peters]

Juan Pablo Ugarte wrote:

 I never intended to make a new release for 3.8 but I see my development
 release got in
 http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/3.7.91/gnome-apps-3.7.91.modules
 [...]
 
 We could easily revert the string breaks but I still do not think glade
 will be ready to release together with gnome 3.8 specially since I did
 not had time to focus on bug fixing.
 
 Anyways I guess I will have to talk to the release team to sort this
 out.

I just updated the 3.8 moduleset to follow the 3.14 branch.



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Re: Freeze break request for bug 694796

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694796

Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote:
  Patch seems fine to me, 1/2 from r-t
 
 Another +1 from here. Seems safe enough,

Hi Adolfo, you need to be part of the release team to approve freeze
break requests :)


Allan, ideally you should make sure patches are marked as reviewed and
accepted before asking for freeze breaks; as I am not sure the comment
Rui made came after your request.

Anyway, count this as the second release team approval for the current
patch[1], given it's properly approved by the GNOME Shell team.


Fred

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=237517
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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

[Frederic Peters]

Cosimo Cecchi wrote:

 This cycle we redesigned the Shell overview, hiding the message tray by
 default from the view.
 The original design also added a new messages indicator to make the tray
 more discoverable, but it didn't make it in time for 3.7.90. Bug 687797 [1]
 contains a patchset that adds the indicator.
 Patches have been reviewed already and the request comes from the design
 team. OK to commit this?

1 of 2 for the release team.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687787#c26 says:

  As for the style, I think it's best to leave that for Jakub or Allan
  to tweak - right now it's using a simple light gray to transparent
  gradient.

It would be really great if those potential changes could also happen
soon.


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Re: GNOME Control Center: UI freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Debarshi Ray wrote:

 I would like to commit this patch to the Online Accounts panel in GNOME
 Control Center: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689645
 
 This is a UI change because it affects the way we tell the user that her
 credentials are not valid anymore. Here is a screenshot with the patch in
 place: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=234218
 
 The following new strings were added:
 Credentials have expired.
 Sign In to enable this account.
 _Sign In
 
 I have been using this patch locally on my system for quite some time and
 it is reasonably low impact.

Fine by me.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-6

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The branch 'gnome-3-6' was created pointing to:

 6fde927... Updated Malayalam Localization

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Nautilus Freeze Break

[Frederic Peters]

Hello,

Here comes another freeze break request; I was making screenshots for
the French release notes when I noticed the last modification time
column of Nautilus didn't have a proper date format (it had sep 23
2012 while it should have been 23 sep 2012). Turned out the format
strings were already marked for translation but those were not called
when actually used.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684661 has the trivial fix.

@RT: Andre already gave +1 in the bug report.

@translators: this doesn't add any string but this is an opportunity
to check your translations (this is about strings like %b %-e).


Thanks!

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Re: 3.6 Release Notes: Please start translating tomorrow!

[Frederic Peters]

Piotr Drąg wrote:

 I've updated Polish translation yesterday and it's still not reflected
 on the website. I don't think I have any tag errors, so what could be
 the cause?

Sorry, something was stuck on the server, it's now ok.


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Re: 3.6 Release Notes: Please start translating tomorrow!

[Frederic Peters]

Hi,

 btw, my latest commit was listed in
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/log/?h=gnome-3-6
 but not reflected yet in
 http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/release-notes/gnome-3-6/help/id
 nor http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/index.html.id; is
 there a sync problem?

I checked the script and didn't find any problem, so I spent a little
time on your translation.  I focused on the The GNOME Project is an
international community... paragraph, that you translated (Projek
GNOME adalah suatu komunitas internasional...) but that didn't appear
on library.gnome.org.

This is because the string you translated doesn't actually appear in
the original .pot file, where the string is:

  The GNOME Project is link href=\http://www.gnome.org/about/\;an 
  international community/link of contributors that is backed by a non-
  profit Foundation. We focus on user experience, stability, first-class 
  internationalization, and accessibility. GNOME is Free Software and 
  available to all. All our work is free to use, modify and redistribute.

(note the link tag)

That explains why this paragraph doesn't get translated, I don't know
if you had another string in mind.

Hope it helps,

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Re: 3.6 Release Notes: Please start translating tomorrow!

[Frederic Peters]

Andika Triwidada wrote:

 Sorry for the confusion. I have two translation files with only single 
 character
 difference in file names. I used the wrong file in previous commit, but
 the for later one I have made sure to use the proper one.
 
 My last commit has propagated to
 http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/release-notes/gnome-3-6/help/id
 This time it's easy to see because translation percentage was more than twice
 of the previous one.

http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/index.html.id now has
many translated strings; I guess it's working.


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Re: about release notes 3.6 translation

[Frederic Peters]

Andika Triwidada wrote:

  2. Where do 'More Information' and 'See Also' come from? I think they
  need to be translatable too.
  See current 
  http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/users-message-tray.html.id
  at bottom
  for instance.
 
  Those strings are part of http://l10n.gnome.org/module/yelp-xsl/
 
 Then why are they still in English? yelp-xsl is already 100%
 translated into Indonesian.

Because the server is using xml2po instead of itstool to create the
translated files, and xml2po doesn't add xml:lang=id, that is
required by the yelp xsl files to have See Also (and others)
translated.

I have a patch to the publishing hook ready, I just need to get a
sysadmin to apply it, probably tomorrow.


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Re: Two string changes for Nautilus

[Frederic Peters]

Bastien Nocera wrote:

 I've maintained nautilus-sendto for the past 7 years, and I'm happy with
 those changes. nautilus-sendto's UI has been in serious need for a
 redesign, and this is the first part of it.

But it's not the right moment in the cycle to get a first part of a
redesign in. I would prefer the whole redesign be set as a feature for
3.8.


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Re: Epiphany UI freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com 
 wrote:
  Hei,
 
  We've been working in a replacement for the default page in Ephy that
  shows a grid with the most visited pages. Unfortunately we weren't ready
  in time to land this before the UI freeze, but we think we can do it
  now, before 3.5.91.
 
  The wip is in the 'in-tab-overview' branch, but we would like to merge
  it before next week's release. We're still polishing details but you can
  try it already if you're curious. If you're lazy, you can just check the
  following screenshot:
 
http://people.gnome.org/~csaavedra/images/2012-08-30-overview.png
 
 It certainly looks fantastic. But it also looks like a considerable
 amount of new code, so getting it in for .91 is probably the last
 chance to land it before 3.6. That is, assuming it has already gotten
 review and testing by the epiphany team.
 
 I would say, go for it, +1 of 2 for the release team.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683040 is a crasher I just
got; I'd give a +1 nevertheless, to get it tested thoroughly, but if
there are still such bugs by 3.5.92, I'm of the opinion the feature
will have to be reverted.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-4

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The branch 'gnome-3-4' was created pointing to:

 5f82aa8... Updated Spanish translation

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Re: Indentation in translatable string

[Frederic Peters]

F Wolff wrote:

 Adding spaces is another interesting thing, because of possible
 double-width characters, or is only the starting point of the strings
 important? Frédéric, can you maybe give an example of output where these
 would be used?

Indeed, it would be used at the start of a line, it's used to
structure a little bit the output, like:

|  System installed packages which are new enough:
|(none)
|
|  Required packages:
|System installed packages which are too old:
|  (none)
|No matching system package installed:
|  (none)


Fred

[fwiw it's a patch in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669554]
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Indentation in translatable string

[Frederic Peters]

Hello all,

I am reviewing a patch and it adds several strings for translation,
(none),   (none), (none), i.e. they differ only by the
presence of some spaces at the beginning, used to display the string
at the right position.

I was about to suggest they should be removed so translators would
only get one string to translate but then I got to wonder about RTL
languages, perhaps it makes sense to have indentation in the string?


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Re: Indentation in translatable string

[Frederic Peters]

Luca Ferretti wrote:

 Il giorno 09/mag/2012 16:36, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org ha
 scritto:
 
  I was about to suggest they should be removed so translators would
  only get one string to translate but then I got to wonder about RTL
  languages, perhaps it makes sense to have indentation in the string?
 
 If alignment is needed, why not using gtk widget stuff and keep the
 shortest string ((none))? This way you should also be safe with RTL.

Indeed, but this message would appear in jhbuild, and be displayed in
a console.


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Re: Indentation in translatable string

[Frederic Peters]

Christian Hilberg wrote:

 I'd suggest the string none be translated (marked with context, for
 that matter), and the rest done in the source via string concatenation,
 like adding indentation and braces (which does not need translation,
 so why bother translators with that?).

Avoiding strings where possible is exactly the source of my naive (?)
question, if I do:

  '  ' + _('none')

to get '  none', will that also work for RTL languages, or would they
expect the actual output to be 'none  ' ?


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Re: String additions to 'evince.master'

[Frederic Peters]

 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'evince.master':
 
 + Tiff Documents
 + XPS Documents

For reference those strings were not marked for translation, so it
doesn't constitue a freeze break.
  http://git.gnome.org/browse/evince/commit/?id=d814a1caa2cc

But do note a later update changed the Tiff Documents string to be
TIFF Documents, while this is technically a freeze break, but since
the initial string was only there for five hours, I believe this won't
be a burden on translators.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-font-viewer.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Hey Cosimo,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 
 'gnome-font-viewer.master':
 
 + All Fonts
 + Back
 + Copyright
 + Description
 + Info
 + Install
 + Name
 + Style
 + Thumbnail size (default: 128)
 + Type
 + Version

Could you branch gnome-3-4 before your changes?

Thanks,

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Re: What is the license of GNOME Commit-Digests?

[Frederic Peters]

Hey,

As noted in the page footer, This work is licensed under a Creative
Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported, meaning you can go ahead
and translate. Do tell me when you have something ready, I'll add a
link to the translation in the site sidebar.


Thanks!

Fred

(btw I have been on a slow internet connection recently, I'll be back
at home next week, and I'll get the digests for the previous weeks
published as fast as possible).

 
 cjl
 
 On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Jiro Matsuzawa
 jmatsuz...@src.gnome.org wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I will translate the GNOME Commit-Digests [1] for Japanese users and 
  developers.
  But I'm not sure what is their license.
  Can I translate them?
 
  Thank you in advance.
 
  [1] http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/
 
  --
  Jiro Matsuzawa
  E-mail:
    jmatsuz...@src.gnome.org
    matsuzawa...@gmail.com
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  GPG Key Fingerprint: E086 C14A 869F BB0E 3541 19EB E370 B08B ECC4 42E9
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Re: empathy-accounts UI changes

[Frederic Peters]

Guillaume Desmottes wrote:

 We've done some UI review of the new version of empathy-accounts [0].
 With the help of Allan I've picked and fixed some low hanging fruits:

This still needs approval by the documentation team, but here's
already one of two from the release team.


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-online-accounts.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:

 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 
 'gnome-online-accounts.master':
 
 + quot;Use forquot;

For reference, this happened after the module was branched for 3.4,
it's just that damned-lies hasn't been updated yet.


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Re: Epiphany freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Xan Lopez wrote:

 With all that being said, I'm formally requesting to break the freeze
 and land this in time for 3.3.91.

The UI changes are really minor, and I will help in making sure this is solid
before 3.4.0, so +1 from my side.

About translation work, I guess there not many new strings?


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Re: String additions to 'network-manager-applet.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Claude Paroz wrote:
 Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 à 17:29 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
  This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
  
  There have been following string additions to module 
  'network-manager-applet.master':
  
  + Automatically unlock this device
  
  Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
  might be worth investigating.
 
 Hi Dan,
 
 I'd like to clarify the status of network-manager-applet in GNOME. It is
 listed in core modules in JHBuild, so I suppose it is also submitted to
 general GNOME freezes, isn't it?
 
 Do you think it would be possible for you to make stable branches
 following GNOME releases, so as for example translators can target
 specific releases. I assume it's the same situation for other teams.
 
 What do you think?

Dan ?


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Jasper,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-shell.master':
 
 + %s has not emitted any errors.
 + Hide Errors
 + Show Errors

This broke the string freeze, please revert this commit, branch for
3.2 at an earlier point, or request an exception.


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Re: String additions to 'evolution-data-server.gnome-3-2'

[Frederic Peters]

Hi Milan,

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 
 'evolution-data-server.gnome-3-2':
 
 + \%s\ expects the third argument to be a string
 + \%s\ expects two or three arguments
 
 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.

Your commit (377ef823, Bug #659568 - One day delay in calendar view)
to evolution-data-server broke string freeze.


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Re: String additions to 'empathy.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'empathy.master':
 
 + D-Bus object path of the last account selected to join a room.
 + Last account selected in Join Room dialog
 
 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.

Those changes to Empathy were made to master, after Empathy was
branched, so they are ok.


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[devhelp] Created branch gnome-3-2

[Frederic Peters]

The branch 'gnome-3-2' was created pointing to:

 d51b40e... post release version bump

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'

[Frederic Peters]

GNOME Status Pages wrote:

 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-shell.master':
 
 + Removable Devices
 
 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.

That string was not marked for translation; I just fixed that.


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Re: Official GNOME module set

[Frederic Peters]

Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:

 I'd like to ask if there is any formal process to accept new modules to
 official GNOME release sets (and to delete obsolete modules from there).

The release team defines the GNOME Core module set, it has
dependencies on modules not hosted on the GNOME infrastructure (what
was known as external dependencies, see [1] for a tentative of
classification of those).

  [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00428.html

On top of that the marketing team defines a set of featured apps.

There are also modules that are following the GNOME schedule, by
tradition, love of coloured tables, or any other reason. Those also
includes modules that live in a grey area, between core and apps,
there are notable modules in this situation, such as Evolution.


 I have concerns about lack of an officially approved list of release
 modules. As a coordinator of one of local GNOME l10n teams with little
 manpower, I need such list to better prioritize translation efforts.  Of
 course, our main priority should be an official release set coverage.

I believe your main priority should be to provide a translated
environment to your users, rather than strict adherence to a set of
modules, especially as we do not distribute GNOME by ourselves and
rely on distributors, they could, for example, replace Evolution by
Thunderbird.


 Recently, Sep 18, 2011, 'aisleriot' module containing 527 messages was
 (re-)added to official GNOME release set. Now my translation team is
 forced to pay additional attention to these new 527 messages and revisit
 the whole translation to be in line with requirements pushed for
 official modules.

aisleriot was split off gnome-games on April 10th, I don't know how it
was handled in damned lies, I don't know if it got many new strings
but certainly you can have a good chunk of them from gnome-games.


 Are there any plans to make official set population process more formal
 and beforehand?

We could certainly work on making the jhbuild modulesets as the source
of module lists exposed on damned lies, as well as marking modules
deemed important by the marketing team, to facilitate their
identification.


Cheers,

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Re: gnome-control-center (Wacom) freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Bastien Nocera wrote:

 We've added configuration for Wacom graphic tablet in GNOME 3.2, but the
 panel is always present, whether or not we have a Wacom tablet, and,
 even more annoyingly, we can configure the absent tablet.
 
 The patch in this bug:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657424
 
 Adds 3 strings, and a link to the Bluetooth panel to setup a new tablet.
 A screenshot of the UI is available there as well.

What about hiding the panel when a tablet is not available? Is the
plan abandoned for 3.2, or is there another bug report?


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Re: Epiphany UI freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Claudio Saavedra wrote:

 There are a few rough edges in the new web application support related
 to overwriting and possible woes when saving new apps. There are a few
 patches in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658060 aiming to
 address this, but they add a dialog and a notification, plus a few new
 strings.
 
 Please look in the bug for details.

+1 from RT, pending i18n and doc approvals.


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Re: Wacom ui freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 
  The two patches are in:
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657810

Ok, pending i18n and doc approvals.


  and:
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657425

Has been commited already. **Please respect freezes.**



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Re: Power settings ui freeze break request

[Frederic Peters]

Matthias Clasen wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
  On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 15:41 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
   On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
  ...
   The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design
   team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell,
   these changes will not have much impact there.
  
   The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Maybe
   a few more from the removal of what to do when the power and
   sleep buttons are pressed, but that change already went in on
   master (after the announcement period, without an announcement).
  ...
 
  These are the changes the break request is for:
 
  http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=195390
 
  No objections for the docs, provided the end result matches
  these mockups (give or take some pixels). If it's different,
  please provide screenshots.
 
 
 In that case, +1 of 2 for the release team

Seconded, even if that has been commited already. (please, respect
the freezes).


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Re: Bug in gnome3.org

[Frederic Peters]

Daniel Mustieles García wrote:

 I've found a small bug in gnome3.org website. There is a missing tag in
 parties.html, so the po/build.sh script can't generate the website properly.
 
 I've filed a bug in bugzilla (
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650398) attaching a patch that
 solves it.
 
 Could you please review it?

Pushed, thanks!


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Re: Bug in gnome3-web.pot

[Frederic Peters]

Andre Klapper wrote:

 On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 10:14 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
  There are some strings in gnome-3.master.pot that seem to be part of
  the HTML's page code.
 
 If you consider them bugs (yes, likely), please file a bug report
 against website product in bugzilla.gnome.org.

parties.html javascript was not enclosed in CDATA, making xml2po go
berserk; I pushed a fix.

Cheers,

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Re: No release notes

[Frederic Peters]

Коростіль Данило wrote:

 http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/tree/
 Where files are? How can i translate it?

They are in the gnome-3-0 branch.


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Re: release-notes 3.0 translation

[Frederic Peters]

[copied to gnome-i18n@ because of general interest]

 Site http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/ ask now for a login and
 password (since last friday)
 It doesn't help us to translate them. Can you do something ?
 
 cordialement
 
 Bruno Brouard

The username / password pair is gnome / 3.0. Also you will want to use
http://library-next.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.0/ now, updates to
the old one have been stopped as we prepare the switch.


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Re: What about delay of GNOME 3 to september ?

[Frederic Peters]

 Yesterday there were some news talking about GNOME 3 will be delayed
 until next september.
 
 Was it April 1srt Fool Days joke? Or, is it a real new?

Vincent Untz has now posted confirmation,
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2011-April/msg3.html

Keep the translations coming!

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Re: [release-notes] Created branch gnome-3-0

[Frederic Peters]

Allan Day wrote:

 The branch 'gnome-3-0' was created.
 
 Summary of new commits:
 
   b766a4a... 3.0 notes - first draft

Here they comes! This is indeed still an incomplete draft, we will
announce when they're ready for translation.


Cheers,

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Re: string freeze break request for control-center network panel

[Frederic Peters]

Vincent Untz wrote:

 Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 10:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
  On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Matthias Clasen
  matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
   Hi!
  
   is about making the network panel show the same information as the
   gnome-shell network menu for devices that cannot be activated. In
   particular, we want to indicate if the device cannot be activated
   because firmware may be missing. This adds the same 'Firmware missing'
   string that was added to gnome-shell a while ago.
  
   Easiest for i18n is if you do the grep/sed magic to add the string from
   the gnome-shell po files to the gnome-control-center po files for those
   languages that translated it already. If that's possible, no objection
   from i18n.
  
  
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646027
  
  I have updated the patch to include existing translations from gnome-shell.
  Can I get an up-or-down vote on this ?
 
 Approval 1 of 2.

Some .po files got the string translated to English; once this if
filtered out it's ok to commit.


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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

[Frederic Peters]

Vincent Untz wrote:

 Le mardi 29 mars 2011, à 16:20 +0530, Andre Klapper a écrit :
  On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 22:25 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
   My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
   category. Advantages: 
 * it exists - so no need to break string freeze
 * it works on both panel and shell
 * it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
   their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)
  
  Looks like we have to come to an agreement here as this one has a 3.0
  target flag set...
 
 It's getting really late to add strings, and we're not completely sure
 how to deal with the new submenus from a layout perspective, so I
 suggest we should just put the missing .desktop files in Other. And
 we'll take time to find a solution we're really happy with for 3.2.
 
 I've attached a patch to the bug:
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
  http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=184663
 
 Opinions?

Works for me.


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

[Frederic Peters]

Vincent Untz wrote:

 Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
 mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
 GSettings, and more (see below).

I have been running that branch a little bit this afternoon, it works
well and looks like a very useful cleanup, I still have high hopes you
will manage the final bits to make it more similar to the shell layout
(centering the clock mostly).

1 of 2 from me.


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