Re: Add BillReminder to DL
On Út, 2008-08-26 at 09:26 -0600, Sean Burke wrote: Hello Og, Hi Daniel, Thank you for chimming in about this topic. I also have a great deal of respect for all the quality assurance that we, GNOME translators, have so hard fought to establish. I can assure you that when I set up my app to be translated via Rosetta, I made sure that only official team members of the Ubuntu translators team could perfom it. As you can see from the Swedish translation (for BillReminder) page: Please don't rely on this as a measure of quality assurance. Some downstream translation teams will accept anyone and everyone who asks. When I sought to join the team for my language, I never once spoke with the coordinator or demonstrated any sort of suitability for the job. Requests to join are rubber-stamped and as a result the Ubuntu translation of GNOME for my language is significantly worse than upstream. This is a standing problem and one with no easy solution. Importing translations from Launchpad could potentially do great harm to the work of upstream translators with no recourse save to constantly revert. Please don't do it. Sean Burke Definitely agree with Sean. Quality of translated strings in Rosetta is usualy halfway worse than in upstream. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
mån 2008-08-25 klockan 21:27 -0400 skrev Og Maciel: To whom this may concern; I was wondering if someone could add BillReminder to DL? Just a comment: I personally do not like that you import translations from Launchpad. GNOME has quality assurance, Launchpad hasn't. I'm the original Swedish translator. I did a checkout of SVN today and found that the last translator was someone called Zahirovic Mensur with the mail address Unknown. Difficult to contact him. Regards, Daniel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
Hi! Just a comment: I personally do not like that you import translations from Launchpad. GNOME has quality assurance, Launchpad hasn't. In general, please never import translations from anywhere in a GNOME module. The only files in po/ you may usually change as maintainer are POTFILES.in and POTFILES.skip. I think Claude will take care of adding the module to DL. Regards, Johannes signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
Hi, I'm not Claude but I have added it to Extras set, so enjoy it :) Stats should start to appear soonish. Cheers, El dt 26 de 08 de 2008 a les 09:55 +0200, en/na Johannes Schmid va escriure: Hi! Just a comment: I personally do not like that you import translations from Launchpad. GNOME has quality assurance, Launchpad hasn't. In general, please never import translations from anywhere in a GNOME module. The only files in po/ you may usually change as maintainer are POTFILES.in and POTFILES.skip. I think Claude will take care of adding the module to DL. Regards, Johannes ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- gil forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gil Forcada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not Claude but I have added it to Extras set, so enjoy it :) Thanks a bunch Gil! :) -- Og B. Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Keys: D5CFC202 http://www.ogmaciel.com (en_US) http://blog.ogmaciel.com (pt_BR) ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
Hello Og, Hi Daniel, Thank you for chimming in about this topic. I also have a great deal of respect for all the quality assurance that we, GNOME translators, have so hard fought to establish. I can assure you that when I set up my app to be translated via Rosetta, I made sure that only official team members of the Ubuntu translators team could perfom it. As you can see from the Swedish translation (for BillReminder) page: Please don't rely on this as a measure of quality assurance. Some downstream translation teams will accept anyone and everyone who asks. When I sought to join the team for my language, I never once spoke with the coordinator or demonstrated any sort of suitability for the job. Requests to join are rubber-stamped and as a result the Ubuntu translation of GNOME for my language is significantly worse than upstream. This is a standing problem and one with no easy solution. Importing translations from Launchpad could potentially do great harm to the work of upstream translators with no recourse save to constantly revert. Please don't do it. Sean Burke ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
Hey Sean, I know exactly what you mean and (even if it wasn't clear from my previous email) share yours and Daniel's concerns. I will definitely take your adivice into consideration as I shape BillReminder for a possible minor release soon. Many thanks, -- Og B. Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Keys: D5CFC202 http://www.ogmaciel.com (en_US) http://blog.ogmaciel.com (pt_BR) ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
tis 2008-08-26 klockan 08:17 -0400 skrev Og Maciel: Thank you for chimming in about this topic. I also have a great deal of respect for all the quality assurance that we, GNOME translators, have so hard fought to establish. I can assure you that when I set up my app to be translated via Rosetta, I made sure that only official team members of the Ubuntu translators team could perfom it. As you can see from the Swedish translation (for BillReminder) page: Believe me, this is a serious problem. I have been the manager for the Swedish Ubuntu Translators team for a couple of years. Swedish is a difficult language and many, many people can't write even close to correct Swedish. The method we used was to limit the translator group to only 5 people, and fight off all people who applied for membership. That was drastic but worked. Now we channel all translations through these few members. Since you are the administrator for this team and the project can only be translated by an official member of this team, is Zahirovic Mensur qualified for this work, is he not a member and maybe we found a bug on LP, or is there something else I missed? This has to be a Launchpad bug. This guy is part of no translator group and should not be able to do much more that make suggestions. I have filed a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/261660 Daniel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Daniel Nylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe me, this is a serious problem. I have been the manager for the Swedish Ubuntu Translators team for a couple of years. Swedish is a difficult language and many, many people can't write even close to correct Swedish. The method we used was to limit the translator group to only 5 people, and fight off all people who applied for membership. That was drastic but worked. Now we channel all translations through these few members. I too ended up doing the same exact thing back when I was the coordinator for the Brazilian team... and you wouldn't believe how much flac I got, but it is all behind now. This has to be a Launchpad bug. This guy is part of no translator group and should not be able to do much more that make suggestions. I have filed a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/261660 Thanks for filing this. I'll subscribe to it and will follow it. Cheers, -- Og B. Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Keys: D5CFC202 http://www.ogmaciel.com (en_US) http://blog.ogmaciel.com (pt_BR) ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Add BillReminder to DL
Em Ter, 2008-08-26 às 18:59 -0400, Og Maciel escreveu: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Daniel Nylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe me, this is a serious problem. I have been the manager for the Swedish Ubuntu Translators team for a couple of years. Swedish is a difficult language and many, many people can't write even close to correct Swedish. The method we used was to limit the translator group to only 5 people, and fight off all people who applied for membership. That was drastic but worked. Now we channel all translations through these few members. I too ended up doing the same exact thing back when I was the coordinator for the Brazilian team... and you wouldn't believe how much flac I got, but it is all behind now. Coordinator of the pt_BR Ubuntu translation team (to avoid any possible confusion). This has to be a Launchpad bug. This guy is part of no translator group and should not be able to do much more that make suggestions. I have filed a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/261660 Thanks for filing this. I'll subscribe to it and will follow it. Cheers, -- Leonardo Fontenelle http://leonardof.org ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
