Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Le samedi 18 avril 2009 à 18:32 +, F Wolff a écrit : > Op Sa, 2009-04-18 om 15:38 +0100 skryf Simos Xenitellis: > > ... > > > What I would suggest is to try to clone the repositories of the GNOME > > release, > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > If you were to download these files in a compressed .tar.bz2, the file > > would be around 1.6GB. > > It would be quite straightforward to use a download manager and get a > > 1.6GB file. > > ... assuming a certain hard drive space and level of connectivity to be > available. > > It is actually not as big as I thought it would be, considering it > contains all branches of all projects. Git is really quite efficient. I > will however continue to download stuff directly from damned lies and > asking other people to commit on my behalf until damned lies can commit. > I am lucky that I probably have the bandwidth to be able to download 1.6 > GB over a few days/weeks, but I don't have hard drive space at the > moment :-) > > Translating GNOME is so much fun, I do it in my free time and I enjoy > it. One of the main reasons is because it is easy to do and the overhead > is minimal. As long as we continue to make it possible for people to > contribute as easily as it is now, I think we will continue to draw more > people (and I will continue to recommend it to people starting out with > localisation). > > A big thank you to everybody helping to make this the joy that it is > (and everybody committing for me :-) Wow, Friedel, you can write such mail every day, if you want. Thanks, that is very encouraging (especially after spending lots of hours for a technical migration...). Peace be with you! Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Op Sa, 2009-04-18 om 17:45 +0200 skryf Johannes Schmid: > Hi! > > Am Samstag, den 18.04.2009, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Frederic Peters: > > Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > > > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > > > 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp > > and gnumeric are both over 200MB. > > > > Actually the whole discussion scares me a bit. Do you really never test > the modules you translate? I mean of course you cannot check every > single dialog but at least a quick overview is a must for correct > translations imho. > > And if you use the jhbuilds available for all gnome modules that > shouldn't be a big deal and doesn't require any development skills. > > Regards, > Johannes Hall Johannes I don't find it that scary. What is the worst case scenario? While we have pre-commit hooks with msgfmt (and in damned-lies), translations can't break the applications. We don't need to worry about dialogue sizes like in the case of Mozilla applications. There are many things that should be checked in the interface, but I'm not aware of any really crucial ones. For me this is one of the strong points of working on GNOME. Of course, I always test the translations, but in the version of the GNOME application I currently have installed which is never the next one to be released. However, it means I get to test almost everything that is important in the running software without having to touch a development version, and I can focus on language issues - msgfmt and GTK will worry about the rest. Of course, I use everything available to do my translation well, like pofilter for technical review which tests things more exhaustively than msgfmt does, and try to get review from people from time to time. It could be that I'll want to look at development versions if my hardware and bandwidth situation improves or as I start working more on getting modules back to 100% from previously 100% translated ones. (Currently I'm often working from 0% or from long unmaintained ones.) While I'm mostly working on my own with limited ability to get the next versions, I think we are doing very well while maintaining very little overhead for translators. I don't think it is all that scary. Keep well Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/monolingual-translation-formats-considered-harmful ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Op Sa, 2009-04-18 om 15:38 +0100 skryf Simos Xenitellis: ... > What I would suggest is to try to clone the repositories of the GNOME > release, > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > If you were to download these files in a compressed .tar.bz2, the file > would be around 1.6GB. > It would be quite straightforward to use a download manager and get a > 1.6GB file. ... assuming a certain hard drive space and level of connectivity to be available. It is actually not as big as I thought it would be, considering it contains all branches of all projects. Git is really quite efficient. I will however continue to download stuff directly from damned lies and asking other people to commit on my behalf until damned lies can commit. I am lucky that I probably have the bandwidth to be able to download 1.6 GB over a few days/weeks, but I don't have hard drive space at the moment :-) Translating GNOME is so much fun, I do it in my free time and I enjoy it. One of the main reasons is because it is easy to do and the overhead is minimal. As long as we continue to make it possible for people to contribute as easily as it is now, I think we will continue to draw more people (and I will continue to recommend it to people starting out with localisation). A big thank you to everybody helping to make this the joy that it is (and everybody committing for me :-) Keep well Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/monolingual-translation-formats-considered-harmful ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
2009/4/18 Johannes Schmid > Hi! > > Am Samstag, den 18.04.2009, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Frederic Peters: > > Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > > > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > > > 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp > > and gnumeric are both over 200MB. > > > > Actually the whole discussion scares me a bit. Do you really never test > the modules you translate? I mean of course you cannot check every > single dialog but at least a quick overview is a must for correct > translations imho. If you're talking about my request, I do test my translations but no need for that to have thousands of MB on my disk. Neither do I need to wait hour to have a few files to translate (4 hours downloading now, with a reasonably good connection, and I'm only at gnome-blog). If it's not technically possible to download only /po and /help directories, bad luck for me, I'll do in a different way, thanks for the explaination :-) Yannig ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Johannes Schmid wrote: > > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > > > 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp > > and gnumeric are both over 200MB. > > Actually the whole discussion scares me a bit. Do you really never test > the modules you translate? I mean of course you cannot check every > single dialog but at least a quick overview is a must for correct > translations imho. Many translators do compile their .po files and install them in their /usr/ filesystem, with popular distributions tracking the GNOME development versions, it is really a viable solution. > And if you use the jhbuilds available for all gnome modules that > shouldn't be a big deal and doesn't require any development skills. This is, quite unfortunately, not true. Frederic ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Hi! Am Samstag, den 18.04.2009, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Frederic Peters: > Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp > and gnumeric are both over 200MB. > Actually the whole discussion scares me a bit. Do you really never test the modules you translate? I mean of course you cannot check every single dialog but at least a quick overview is a must for correct translations imho. And if you use the jhbuilds available for all gnome modules that shouldn't be a big deal and doesn't require any development skills. Regards, Johannes signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Le samedi 18 avril 2009 à 17:16 +0200, Frederic Peters a écrit : > Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. > > 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp > and gnumeric are both over 200MB. The git directory on the d-l server contains 5.7GB of data. Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
Simos Xenitellis wrote: > and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; > the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. 2.6GB, but that doesn't count some big repositories, for exemple gimp and gnumeric are both over 200MB. Frederic ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Yannig MARCHEGAY wrote: > 2009/4/18 DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar >> >> > I'm trying to understand everything about git. Do someone know how I >> > could >> > batch-download all GNOME po directories? I made such a script for SVN, >> > if >> > someone made the same for git, it would be great. I'd love not to have >> > to >> > download whole repositories with a lot of files I don't need for >> > translation. >> >> you can find download link at the bottom of damned-lies or >> http://l10n.gnome.org. > > That's for downloading every single repository, isn't it? What I mean is > what I did in > http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/Scripts?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=svn-checkout_l10n.sh SVN allows to checkout a subdirectory of a repository, so it was easy to checkout the po/ subdirectories only. In Git, this is not possible. The move to Git requires to update our translation workflows. What I would suggest is to try to clone the repositories of the GNOME release, and keep those on your system. We now know the figures; the GNOME 2.26 Git repositories would take about 2.6GB on your disk. If you were to download these files in a compressed .tar.bz2, the file would be around 1.6GB. It would be quite straightforward to use a download manager and get a 1.6GB file. Then, you can use 'git pull --rebase' to easily update them when you need to. You can find the individual sizes of the repositories at http://blogs.gnome.org/simos/2009/04/18/git-clones-vs-shallow-git-clones/ Simos ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
2009/4/18 DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar > > I'm trying to understand everything about git. Do someone know how I > could > > batch-download all GNOME po directories? I made such a script for SVN, if > > someone made the same for git, it would be great. I'd love not to have to > > download whole repositories with a lot of files I don't need for > > translation. > > you can find download link at the bottom of damned-lies or > http://l10n.gnome.org. That's for downloading every single repository, isn't it? What I mean is what I did in http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/Scripts?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=svn-checkout_l10n.sh ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Batch-download all GNOME po directories
> I'm trying to understand everything about git. Do someone know how I could > batch-download all GNOME po directories? I made such a script for SVN, if > someone made the same for git, it would be great. I'd love not to have to > download whole repositories with a lot of files I don't need for > translation. you can find download link at the bottom of damned-lies or http://l10n.gnome.org. -- Regards Dulmandakh http://www.dulmandakh.com ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
