Hey Mackenzie, please help comrade dak grok the following as well
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenkungsvertrag Die Schenkung ist ein zweiseitiges Rechtsgeschäft (ein Vertrag), aber nur einseitig verpflichtend, weil nur der Schenker leisten muss. regards, alexander. P.S. I'm insufficiently motivated to go set up a GNU/Linux system so that I can do the builds. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Hey Mackenzie, please help comrade dak grok the following as well
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenkungsvertrag Die Schenkung ist ein zweiseitiges Rechtsgeschäft (ein Vertrag), aber nur einseitig verpflichtend, weil nur der Schenker leisten muss. The GPL is not a Schenkung since there is no transfer of ownership. It is actually not true that it is nur einseitig verpflichtend since ownership implies duties. For example, if I make a Schenkungsvertrag over a bunch of toxic waste cans on public ground, it becomes the new owner's responsibility to move them away safely. If I make a Schenkungsvertrag over a horse, it becomes the new owner's responsibility to provide basic care and feeding or face animal protection laws. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Hey Mackenzie, please help comrade dak grok the following as well
David Kastrup wrote: [...] It is actually not true that it is nur einseitig verpflichtend since It's einseitig verpflichtend as in http://dejure.org/gesetze/BGB/518.html and http://vwi.andre-grahl.de/Recht/pdf/03_Script.pdf Pflichtenbegründende Rechtsgeschäfte (Verpflichtungsgeschäfte) - es werden einseitige oder mehrseitige Pflichtenverhältnisse begründet einseitig: Schenkung, Leihe, Erlass zweiseitig: Kaufvertrag, Dienstvertrag, Werkvertrag mehrseitig: Gesellschaftervertrag you crackpot dak. regards, alexander. P.S. I'm insufficiently motivated to go set up a GNU/Linux system so that I can do the builds. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Hey Mackenzie, please help comrade dak grok the following as well
Hey dak, just to clarify: the point was not that the GPL is somehow a unilateral contract (it's obviously a bilateral boiler plate contract form, not unilateral) but rather that even gifts are contracts under the German law. A totally gratuitous IP license IS ALSO A CONTRACT, silly dak. Whether this [act] constitutes a gratuitous license, or one for a reasonable compensation, must, of course, depend upon the circumstances; but the relation between the parties thereafter in respect of any suit brought must be held to be contractual, and not an unlawful invasion of the rights of the owner. http://supreme.justia.com/us/273/236/case.html Hth, silly. regards, alexander. P.S. I'm insufficiently motivated to go set up a GNU/Linux system so that I can do the builds. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Hey Mackenzie, please help comrade dak grok the following as well
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] It is actually not true that it is nur einseitig verpflichtend since It's einseitig verpflichtend as in http://dejure.org/gesetze/BGB/518.html and http://vwi.andre-grahl.de/Recht/pdf/03_Script.pdf Pflichtenbegründende Rechtsgeschäfte (Verpflichtungsgeschäfte) - es werden einseitige oder mehrseitige Pflichtenverhältnisse begründet einseitig: Schenkung, Leihe, Erlass zweiseitig: Kaufvertrag, Dienstvertrag, Werkvertrag mehrseitig: Gesellschaftervertrag you crackpot dak. A Schenkung is einseitig verpflichtend between the parties of the Schenkungsvertrag, however, as a consequence of the transfer of ownership, the Verpflichtungen connected with ownership will be established for the new owner. For this reason among others, you can't do a Schenkungsvertrag without the consent of the receiving party. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
