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Re: [GNC-dev] Scripting Gnucash actions without UI
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 17:51:40 +0800 Christopher Lam wrote: > It would thus be useful to know the types of tasks that users wish to > automate. I'll start: > > Every quarter, I personally tally up the GST account balances, which > allows me to submit to the tax office. I currently use the "Income > and GST Statement" report for tallying. I will also create some > transactions which will offset the GST accounts back to zero. This > could easily be automated. My GST is more complex with two different vehicles, company tax and the income tax to be reckoned as well. Vehicles only have a proportion of the GST to be put in the calculations. I attach my Scheduled transaction just for the amounts to be given to the tax office. There are also a series of scheduled transactions for the splits in the GST for vehicle expenses. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 19:10:17 -0500 Scott Traurig wrote: > Hi John, > > Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up > dry, and the conventional FAQ answer is not working. Scott, please keep this on the user list Liz Dodd Moderator ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year
On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 06:31:02 +1000 David H wrote: > This is getting ridiculous, can we stop the personal attacks now > please. I do not permit personal attacks on these English language Gnucash lists which I moderate. I privately email offenders to keep all of this off-list. Liz Moderator ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year
On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:37:01 +1000 Arman Schwarz wrote: > When I want to generate charts for financial years I just set the > start/end dates to 1 July / 30 June. I haven't run into a situation > where Australian financial years have caused problems. > > Is there a specific chart or report you're trying to run that doesn't > work in this way? > > Arman I think about this differently. Every time I run one of those reports and change the dates it takes time, repeated annually. How much time would it take to fix the code and not have to change the dates annually? Can I save time and effort by changing the code? Incidentally to the problem, how much will I learn for the future about the code? Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] gnucash-devel Digest, Vol 216, Issue 18
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:23:43 -0500 Adrien Monteleone wrote: > One slipped by I see. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/30/21 8:32 PM, Scott Morgan wrote: > > snip... > That account is now placed on moderation. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
[GNC-dev] Book advertised on help manual online
https://gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=4&lang=C&doc=help I've just deflected a post to this list complaining that the link to buy the book Gnucash 2.4 Small Business Accounting is not sending this person to somewhere they can actually buy the book. Disregarding why Packt's site is not working for this person, should we be still advertising a 10 year old book for Gnucash, which is 2 full revisions old? The intent of my reply was to refer this person to gnucash-user. I've got a copy of the book "somewhere". Having moved house since I bought it I don't know where it is, so can't really look at it to check my facts. Some more views on whether we should still be advertising this book? Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:05:42 + Christopher Lam wrote: > Devel, > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes > to get going quickly? > See draft, attached. Chris, the ATO asks for your option 2, with gross sales etc. I always do my form with option 1, and it appears that so long as I pay the money, they don't mind. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] "2" version of source code
On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:49:34 +0100 Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you can wait, I will try and spend more time on it soon. Multi > selection still might be tricky, what do you want that for? This was mentioned today on -user Where a split transaction has N splits, and N>=4 To select N-2 splits to delete Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Patelco stopped supporting OFX... other options
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 05:33:11 + Christopher Lam wrote: > Are you saying that SISS isn't compliant with OAIC's APP? Very > interesting, and not surprising... > I've noticed lots of discrepancies in Australian law and practice. > e.g. many forms in use have PDF forms with PDF's signatures, but the > recipient expect nothing other than print+sign+scan+unencrypted email > PDF/JPG. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't seem consistent with standard security and privacy online. Again, with Australian banks, its usually not "buyer beware" but "depositor and borrower beware". What I was finding implied that there was no useful way for Gnucash to deal with banks (in AU) if they change to WebConnect only for downloading transactions. It does smell like a privately run version of the UK's Making Tax Difficult - sorry Digital that is a set of tools which are intended to be closed source only. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Patelco stopped supporting OFX... other options
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:43:13 -0700 jean laroche wrote: > > I found an explanation of Quicken's Express Web Connect at > > https://community.quicken.com/discussion/7851859/faq-how-quicken-connects-with-your-financial-institution-tips-tricks-and-best-practices. > > > > The short answer is it works the same as plaid and friends: The > > transaction data is retrieved nightly and stored on Intuit's > > servers and Quicken phones home to retrieve them. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > > That's interesting! They even mention screen scraping (I'm not sure > whether that's really what's happening, I would imagine that would be > extremely unreliable). I'm sure most data aggregators (such as plaid) > no longer use screen scraping, they must have agreements with Banks > to download directly, but I'm not too sure about this. I've found all of this very interesting. It doesn't meet my idea of secure. My idea is I hold my keys, and never share them. Various instructions from my bank include not sharing PINs so why would I want to share anything else that gave access (even read only)? I followed through to an Australian broker for these services and have their assurance that everything is safe and encrypted. It is quite clear on the website that the data gets sent daily, but there is not any clarity if it is stored on the route. https://quickbooks.intuit.com/au/resources/product-updates/save-time-direct-bank-feeds/ The advertised broker has an email address on that page with a parked domain. This is their correct domain https://sissdataservices.com.au/ from where I get this jargon filled piece Our consent driven open banking REST API enables accounting software, FinTechs, RegTechs and innovators to quickly and securely connect to consumer data from Australia's major banks and financial institutions. Access accurate (reconciled daily) and reliable (direct from core banking systems) open banking data via a single REST API. SISS Data Services has entered into formal data supply contracts with Australia’s largest banks and financial institutions to provide you access to consumer data. Modelled on the Consumer Data Right (CDR) framework, SISS Data Services provides you with all the resources you need to build and grow your solution, including REST API, accreditation, and developer sandbox. Search our data feeds How our data feeds work Click to enlarge Key features DIRECT DATA FEEDS High quality data feeds directly from the banks SANDBOX + DEVELOPMENT Start building your API today in our sandbox MORE DATA Look at the growing list of banks we have partnered with to date DATA RECIPIENT ACCREDITATION One central location to complete all your compliance SINGLE REST API FOR BANK DATA Single REST API to connect to bank data Who is the open banking REST API designed for? The open banking REST API is designed for accounting software providers (ASP), FinTechs, RegTechs and software developers wanting access to accurate and reliable balance and transaction information for credit cards and bank accounts. ✓ Single REST API ✓ Sandbox & Development Portal ✓ Transactional Based Pricing ✓ Major Banks ✓ Accurate & Reliable Data ✓ Direct Data Feeds (Core Banking System) We keep costs simple Our transactional pricing is month-to-month with no lock-in contract and no exit penalties. It is designed to get you connected quickly. Set up fee: Access to our incredible support team and the developer sandbox to connect your app. SISS fee: A per transaction fee for our product and service. Bank fee: This is the exact fee the banks charge us, directly passed onto you with zero mark ups. Set up fee $5,000 +GST SISS fee $0.03 (3 cents) +GST per line item Bank fee Nil to $0.05 (5 cents) +GST per line item == Now we've got a cost sample as well. I am not seeing a way for an individual to do this directly with the bank, and being able to cut out the middleman whether for security or cost reasons. But if your financial institution chose to use one of these services and cut out customer driven direct download services, they are up against consumer law in several jurisdictions. It's known as third party forcing here, and isn't approved. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Patelco stopped supporting OFX... other options
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 20:08:17 -0700 John Ralls wrote: > I think the only really feasible workaround is to reverse-engineer > the Web Connect authentication. That would mean installing Quicken > and setting up and using OFX Web Connect while monitoring the traffic > with wireshark. > https://redflagsecurity.net/2019/03/10/decrypting-tls-wireshark/ > might be helpful for decrypting the authentication traffic with the > browser. No doubt the quicken connection will also be encrypted so > you'll need to find the keys for that too to be able to interpret the > traffic--and working out the key exchange between Quicken and the > bank will also be necessary. Frankly I would expect a low probability > of success without help from a crypto expert. Reminds me of doing that once to switch a fragile windows client into a robust system running on another OS. When I got the code using wireshark, it was " 1 2 3 4" Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash donations
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:54:09 -0500 Paul Murray via gnucash-devel wrote: > Hi Ngewi > > I contribute to Obyte, an open-source payments project. We are > developing a product which might increase the number of donations > GnuCash receives. > > It is a payment solution that will allow recipients of donations to > automatically donate a percentage of the donation to other dependency > projects. So GnuCash could automatically receive a percentage of > donations made to other open-source projects, rather than only > receive donations directly. > > Would you be interested in knowing more about this? > > Cheers > Paul > I've let this through. Perhaps it is just advertising, and perhaps it is of use. I decided it wasn't my place to decide, and let it through Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] STP (Australia only)
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:07:16 +1000 Graham Menhennitt wrote: > Hi Liz, > > I'm in the same boat as you - single employee (me) and having to move > to STP soon. Have you made any progress on this? > > I've been using GnuCash for quite a while. But I've never used it > directly for anything to do with the ATO - I just run a report every > quarter and copy the results to the BAS. > > I'm a software engineer so I know a bit about this stuff. But web > programming is not my area of expertise. > > Cheers, > Graham I signed up with Payroller which deals with my immediate problem, but doesn't answer the questions at all. I was disappointed to find that I still have to fill out an IAS every month. Just more work, for little gain. As far as BAS goes, that's how I have done mine over a long period. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] STP (Australia only)
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:37:51 + Christopher Lam wrote: > No immediate need for STP myself, but I am sure that a derivative of > income-gst-statement.scm can handle this easily. > If the payroll accounts are well defined and diligently written, then > it'll be easy to export periodic sums as csv (or XBRL if desired). > C > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 09:33, Liz wrote: > > > STP, or single touch payroll, is something thought up by the > > bureaucrats to be sure we pay our way. It has some aspects in common > > with the UK's making tax digital. > > > > This is supposed to be running already, but people like me, who own > > the company and pay only themselves, have a little more time before > > they are obliged to sign up. > > > > So far, I am learning a lot of new jargon. > > The data to be transferred needs setting out in a csv file (I > > understand that) > > The data is converted to XBRL (new to me) > > The data is transmitted using ebMS3/AS4 security (new to me) > > > > A receipt is generated and returned (no new acronyms here) > > > > There are a number of companies offering to be the middleman in > > these processes. Some are free, others are not. Most of them offer > > payroll, which I neither need nor want. > > > > I looked at some which were apparently Linux friendly and found jar > > files that would not run, and AppImage and Snap files that wouldn't > > work either. > > > > Questions > > Are other Australian Gnucash users dealing with this, or still > > stalling like me? > > Are there any preferred solutions that anyone on the list has tried? > > If I can find out the csv format required, would it be helpful to > > any users to be able to export this automatically from Gnucash? I > > could construct mine by hand and just copy it every month, so I am > > not needing this myself. > > > > Liz > > >From what I have determined so far the data list would include individual'sTFN Gross pay Tax remitted Superannuation remitted Superannuation messaging house identity There are options for specifying bank accounts to which remitted, and I think the main purpose of that is the construction of an ABA file to send to the employer's bank to make the payments. More experimentation as I explore will provide answers. I think producing the XBRL directly would be best. This could then allow a small company to directly access a service like Ozedi, which offers a service where a small company can buy credits with them in advance. https://www.ozedi.com.au/stp-payroll-providers/commercial-options/ I haven't explored other providers like https://www.obsecuremessaging.com mainly because their site doesn't contain much information. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] A non-techie in need of help
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:23:15 -0400 "Ellen S. Dunlap" wrote: > I'm a long-time satisfied Gnucash user, but have hit a technical snag > that is far beyond my ability to understand or remediate. Please join the gnucash-user list because that is the appropriate list for your query. Liz Moderator ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] report
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 12:50:42 +1000 Hilda Caceres-Rylatt wrote: > Dear Manager > I find so hard to get a simple list of invoices Payables entered for > the month. Your report options are non existent. It appears as a list > of vendor to be paid, no GST included. I need the information invoice > payable gst amount for this month for example. It is entered it does > not show anywhere. How can I do it? > Hilda Caceres > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel sorry guys I was tired and i didn't realise this was addressed to gnucash-devel and normally I would have rejected it and told the person to send to gnucash-user Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] How to contribute to GnuCash?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 08:41:00 -0700 John Ralls wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:13 PM, John wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am the founder of a mobile app startup and a big fan of GnuCash. > > My team has some free time now. I wonder if we can contribute to > > develop an iOS companion app like current Android one. Can you let > > me know if you think that's a good idea? and if yes, how to start? > > > > Thanks, > > John > > It's a good idea if you're going to commit to maintaining and > supporting it for a reasonable value of forever. The GnuCash team > hasn't the time nor expertise to accept such an app as a contribution. > > To get started I'd think it best to contact Ngewi via the > GnuCash-for-Android support channels and discuss whether his design > is portable to iOS and what lessons he's learned and improvements he > might make. > > Once you're ready to start work I expect you'll want to recruit users > for usability testing of your UI mockups and later for beta-testing. > I'm sure some of our users will be interested in helping, though if > you're contemplating a commercial product you'll need to figure out > the right way to engage with a FLOSS community. > > Regards, > John Ralls > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel j...@vicinno.com's reply is below. I have indicated that to continue contributions to the list he needs to join the list. === Thanks for quick response. Yes, we will commit to maintaining and supporting it for a reasonable time of forever. Thanks for your suggestion too, we will contact the Android developer for advice before we start. To be clear: we won't do it commercially. The iOS app will be published as a free app in App Store. Our company is the contributor, which means we will do the followings under the name of our company: App Store publishing, GitHub repo, support/maintenance in your email list or forum, name in your contributor list, and others, not limited to the above. Also, we expect you guys list it as an official iOS companion app for GnuCash, same as you do to Android app, basically promoting the iOS app in your email list and home page link, maybe next to Android app, to let more users to use it, or no point to do it. If you guys agree with the above, we will start to plan the dev work. Thanks, John ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Test
On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 21:21:22 -0500 Derek Atkins wrote: > Testing mailman... > -derek It's fine, the spam is arriving in a normal fashion. Thanks for the efforts you are making to keep all running. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 12:53:19 +0800 Christopher Lam wrote: > The only addition so far is a reconcile report custom header with > total ending balance and total ending reconciled balance. Not sure > why it's not showing in your attachment. We'll try to work this note > that you can build;) I thought I may have run the installed binary so I carefully repeated the exercise on the built gnucash, got the warning that it was a developmental version that may not work, and an identical report output to that which I sent earlier. [holds two hands in air to say "I dunno"] Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 12:09:06 +1000 David Cousens wrote: > GTEST and GMOCK need to be installed to build GnuCash. Despite the > reservations expressed about using the installation of them as shared > libraries, I have used shared GTEST and GMOCK libraries since GTEST > and GMOCK have been in the GnuCash build without any problems and > this does not require defining GTEST_ROOT and GMOCK_ROOT. Installed both through apt on a Debian buster / sid system. googletest was installed by asking apt to install all the requirements for a Gnucash build. googlemock I had to install separately. I realise that you are saying that it should have "just worked" but it didn't. Editing CMakeLists.txt didn't work (perhaps I didn't get it correct). Specifying GTEST_ROOT on the command line did work. End result for my file - no change. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 19:56:25 -0800 John Ralls wrote: > It’s not that big. Just install it with your package manager, in > which case you shouldn’t need to set GTEST_ROOT and GMOCK_ROOT, or > clone it from https://github.com/googlestest > <https://github.com/googlestest> and set those variables to the full > path of the subdirs googletest and googlemock in your clone on the > cmake command line. It was installed, but I couldn't get the cmake to go ahead without putting the path on the command line. I've not used cmake before. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:49:05 +0800 Christopher Lam wrote: > Please experiment further (1) expand dates eg from 01/01/1980 to > 01/01/2099 (2) let me know the characteristics of the 77 missing > amounts > - are they unreconciled/cleared/reconciled? > > I guess you can build from source, would you care to try > https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-scheme-progress-and-reconcile-header > > which will add a reconcile-report header? This is the result from the the git build, working from a copy of my file I suppressed the description column No transactions from 31/8/18 to 31/12/18 77 or so in the file. Liz output3.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 12:02:38 +1100 Liz wrote: > > > > I guess you can build from source, would you care to try > > https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-scheme-progress-and-reconcile-header > > > > which will add a reconcile-report header? > > Started on this and come unstuck on GTest Checking for GTEST CMake Error at common/cmake_modules/GncAddTest.cmake:144 (message): GTEST not found. Please install it or set GTEST_ROOT or GMOCK_ROOT I don't really want a GoogleTest. Can I just make GMOCK_ROOT=/tmp ?? Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Reconciliation Report -- Can't find transactions
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:49:05 +0800 Christopher Lam wrote: > Dear Liz > > Thank you for experiments - this confirms that doing a proper > reconciliation report is *difficult* > > Please experiment further (1) expand dates eg from 01/01/1980 to > 01/01/2099 (2) let me know the characteristics of the 77 missing > amounts > - are they unreconciled/cleared/reconciled? > > I guess you can build from source, would you care to try > https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-scheme-progress-and-reconcile-header > > which will add a reconcile-report header? > > I'm fully aware this report is currently incomplete and will need > further refinements. For instance IMHO the primary sortkey should be > frozen to 'reconciled status'. > > I'd be keen to discuss further to shape it into a proper report. > > C > > Expanded date took a few goes with the system altering the date I typed - I had to use the calendar to enforce my requests. So, expanding the period into the future (01/01/2043 I got to) makes no change. Making the start date prior to the start of the file (01/01/1980) shows all the transactions, as it should. So with some experimentation A start date up to 31/08/2018 shows reconciled and unreconciled transactions A start date of 01/09/2018 shows unreconciled only. Building another package will follow. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: understanding scheduled transactions sql table
Wm, Please do not make any personal comments on the mailing lists. Liz, the moderator. -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/understanding-scheduled-transactions-sql-table-tp4674820p4674840.html Sent from the GnuCash - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
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Re: GnuCash Tax Invoice for Australia (Bug 695610)
I did ask for a separate AU Tax Invoice and posted my version on the bugtracker. At that time the work was being done on the editable Invoice with multiple items to edit.My invoice was not accepted because of the new complex structure being created. I have no interest in making a custom report; we need to offer to AU users a tax invoice which is compliant with Australian legislation and is selected from the menu. Ideally I would be able to choose that as 'my default invoice' in preferences and never adjust it again. (I am not a programmer, just an experimenter with code, so I won't be producing a patch). Liz -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-Tax-Invoice-for-Australia-Bug-695610-tp4660435p4660486.html Sent from the GnuCash - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: GnuCash Tax Invoice for Australia (Bug 695610)
Please accept this patch to provide a working AU Tax Invoice without having to change several defaults. The result from Bug 67008 still requires work to produce a legally valid invoice for Australia, and we do need this to "work out of the box" for ordinary Australian users. I was unhappy again yesterday when I had to remake pdfs of a large number of invoices because I was caught out by the last changes - my personal AU tax invoice was overwritten on update and I didn't realise that there were a large number of edits to make to the invoices to make them legally valid tax invoices for Australia. -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-Tax-Invoice-for-Australia-Bug-695610-tp4660435p4660472.html Sent from the GnuCash - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Fw: Question about Platform Support
forwarding to the list, please use "reply all" Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:25:38 -0500 From: Jacquelyn Sykes To: Liz Subject: Re: Question about Platform Support I was looking for a "Contact Us" link with an e-mail form to fill out. I didn't want to join a list at the time, since I'm not having problems using the program. (Also, I was e-mailing from work and didn't have much time.) Most web pages have contact limks at the bottom of the Home page - I didn't find any on yours. The project you described sounds like it would meet my needs perfectly. When it's done will I find it on the Download page? Thanks for your timely response, Jacquelyn On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:21:32 -0400 > John Ralls wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 2012, at 1:56 AM, Liz wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 May 2012 17:50:59 -0400 > > > John Ralls wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> On May 11, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Jacquelyn Sykes wrote: > > >> > > >>> I looked all over your web site and this is the only e-mail > > >>> address I found. > > >>> > > >>> I've been using your program for both Linux and Windows > > >>> operating systems and really like it. > > >>> > > >>> I recently bought an Android 4.0 tablet. Do you have any plans > > >>> to develope an Android version of GnuCash? If yes, when do you > > >>> think it might be ready. > > >>> > > >>> Unfortuneately, I don't have any programming skills to help with > > >>> it. > > >>> > > >>> Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. > > >>> > > >> > > >> You should have looked a little harder: You want > > >> gnucash-u...@gnucash.org. > > >> > > >> No, Gnucash itself works only on Linux, Microsoft Windows, and > > >> Mac OSX. A student is working on a companion program for Android > > >> as a Google Summer of Code project. It won't implement Gnucash > > >> but will rather serve to collect transactions for later import > > >> into Gnucash. You can have a look at his proposal at > > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> John Ralls > > >> > > >> > > > I let this one through to gnucash-devel, partly because of the > > > statement that this was the address found on the web page, and > > > partly because the question did relate to a version in development > > > only. The question wasn't suited to my routine note directing > > > people to the FAQ and then gnucash-user. > > > > > > Could I ask the poster > > > Could we make gnucash-user more obvious than gnucash-devel on the > > > web page? > > > > > > Anything else that would help you see the user mailing list as the > > > place to which to write? > > > > I dunno. Starting on the main page, there's a block on the left side > > that says "Support" in big, friendly letters. Underneath that one > > finds "mailing lists" (after Documentation, FAQ, and Wiki), which > > points to the Mailing Lists wiki page [1]. That in turn has a > > heading "Support" under which one finds gnucash-user and its > > multi-lingual friends. After that is Development, with a > > description of the list followed by a link. > > > > Perhaps instead we should have a support page in the wiki that > > explains our support resources, including the user mailing list, but > > doesn't mention the dev list. We'd shrink the support box on the > > main web page to just the word Support, which would be a link to > > the wiki page. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > And down the bottom of the page, the only email address actually on > gnucash.org > "Server & email outage reports to: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > Translation problems? Contact: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org" > I was looking for a "Contact Us" link with an e-mail form to fill out. I didn't want to join a list at the time, since I'm not having problems using the program. (Also, I was e-mailing from work and didn't have much time.) Most web pages have contact limks at the bottom of the Home page - I didn't find any on yours. The project you described sounds like it would meet my needs perfec
Re: Question about Platform Support
On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:21:32 -0400 John Ralls wrote: > > On May 12, 2012, at 1:56 AM, Liz wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 May 2012 17:50:59 -0400 > > John Ralls wrote: > > > >> > >> On May 11, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Jacquelyn Sykes wrote: > >> > >>> I looked all over your web site and this is the only e-mail > >>> address I found. > >>> > >>> I've been using your program for both Linux and Windows operating > >>> systems and really like it. > >>> > >>> I recently bought an Android 4.0 tablet. Do you have any plans to > >>> develope an Android version of GnuCash? If yes, when do you think > >>> it might be ready. > >>> > >>> Unfortuneately, I don't have any programming skills to help with > >>> it. > >>> > >>> Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. > >>> > >> > >> You should have looked a little harder: You want > >> gnucash-u...@gnucash.org. > >> > >> No, Gnucash itself works only on Linux, Microsoft Windows, and Mac > >> OSX. A student is working on a companion program for Android as a > >> Google Summer of Code project. It won't implement Gnucash but will > >> rather serve to collect transactions for later import into Gnucash. > >> You can have a look at his proposal at > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit > >> > >> Regards, > >> John Ralls > >> > >> > > I let this one through to gnucash-devel, partly because of the > > statement that this was the address found on the web page, and > > partly because the question did relate to a version in development > > only. The question wasn't suited to my routine note directing > > people to the FAQ and then gnucash-user. > > > > Could I ask the poster > > Could we make gnucash-user more obvious than gnucash-devel on the > > web page? > > > > Anything else that would help you see the user mailing list as the > > place to which to write? > > I dunno. Starting on the main page, there's a block on the left side > that says "Support" in big, friendly letters. Underneath that one > finds "mailing lists" (after Documentation, FAQ, and Wiki), which > points to the Mailing Lists wiki page [1]. That in turn has a heading > "Support" under which one finds gnucash-user and its multi-lingual > friends. After that is Development, with a description of the list > followed by a link. > > Perhaps instead we should have a support page in the wiki that > explains our support resources, including the user mailing list, but > doesn't mention the dev list. We'd shrink the support box on the main > web page to just the word Support, which would be a link to the wiki > page. > > Regards, > John Ralls And down the bottom of the page, the only email address actually on gnucash.org "Server & email outage reports to: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Translation problems? Contact: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org" ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Question about Platform Support
On Fri, 11 May 2012 17:50:59 -0400 John Ralls wrote: > > On May 11, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Jacquelyn Sykes wrote: > > > I looked all over your web site and this is the only e-mail address > > I found. > > > > I've been using your program for both Linux and Windows operating > > systems and really like it. > > > > I recently bought an Android 4.0 tablet. Do you have any plans to > > develope an Android version of GnuCash? If yes, when do you think > > it might be ready. > > > > Unfortuneately, I don't have any programming skills to help with it. > > > > Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. > > > > You should have looked a little harder: You want > gnucash-u...@gnucash.org. > > No, Gnucash itself works only on Linux, Microsoft Windows, and Mac > OSX. A student is working on a companion program for Android as a > Google Summer of Code project. It won't implement Gnucash but will > rather serve to collect transactions for later import into Gnucash. > You can have a look at his proposal at > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit > > Regards, > John Ralls > > I let this one through to gnucash-devel, partly because of the statement that this was the address found on the web page, and partly because the question did relate to a version in development only. The question wasn't suited to my routine note directing people to the FAQ and then gnucash-user. Could I ask the poster Could we make gnucash-user more obvious than gnucash-devel on the web page? Anything else that would help you see the user mailing list as the place to which to write? Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Income/Expense Account Question
Thanks for the confirmation, Christopher. Humblest apologies about the lack of a trailing "e"! Must be this new split keyboard (at least, that's my story :-) Cheers, -Bruce Christopher Browne wrote: > > On Wed, 31 May 2000 20:09:47 PDT, the world broke into rejoicing as > Bruce and Liz Chaplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the responses to my question. > > > > I especially like the one proposed below by Christopher Brown, using > > an Assets -> Account Receivable account. Since I am an engineer, not > > an accountant, I'd like to make sure that I have the details correct, > > in particular for the case where I eventually get paid for these > > expenses. The normal case is that I usually spend my own money, and > > then get reimbursed (I previously threw the expense advance scenario > > in there for completeness). > > One minor irritant: that should be "Browne." Don't worry; I won't be > looking up your address so I can drive by your house and pelt it with > bits of foam made into the shape of lower case "e"'s :-). I'll just > think happy thoughts and watch an extra episode of Monty Python at > some point :-). > > > So, to recap Chris's proposal: > > > > > --> Spent money on dinner on the road > > > > > > DR CR > > > Receivable from Co$40 > > > Credit Card $40 > > > > OK, so now I get paid by the company, and the money is deposited into > > my checking account: > > > > DR CR > > > > Receivable from Co $40 > > Checking$40 > > > > > > And now I pay my credit card bill: > > > > DR CR > > > > Checking $40 > > Credit Card $40 > > > > > > Is that correct? I'm doing what seems "intuitive" to my > > "non-accounting" brain ;-) If not, how should it be handled? It seems > > like a lot of work/entries to me. > > I think you're trying too hard to make accounting appear "non-intuitive." > Your intuition looks to be working quite all right. (Accounting is like > that; the "learning curve chasm" is there, but it is not all that much > worse than the "Unix learning cliff.") > > And it really _doesn't_ add any more work, as you're going to be making > several entries _anyways_. > > a) You'd be entering the transaction for the expenditure anyways, so >that you can reconcile the credit card account; that's one. > > b) When you pay the credit card bill, that's a second transaction. > > c) When the money comes from the company to pay for the expenditure, >that's three transactions. > > Nicely corresponding to the three transactions that you show up above. > The _only_ odditity is that instead of the expenditure going to an > expense account, it goes in the "Receivable from Company" account. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linux.html> > What happens when your "Windows Digital Nervous System" crashes? Do > we call that a "Microsoft Nervous Breakdown?" > > -- > Gnucash Developer's List > To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Income/Expense Account Question
Hi all, Thanks for the responses to my question. I especially like the one proposed below by Christopher Brown, using an Assets -> Account Receivable account. Since I am an engineer, not an accountant, I'd like to make sure that I have the details correct, in particular for the case where I eventually get paid for these expenses. The normal case is that I usually spend my own money, and then get reimbursed (I previously threw the expense advance scenario in there for completeness). So, to recap Chris's proposal: > --> Spent money on dinner on the road > > DR CR > Receivable from Co$40 > Credit Card $40 OK, so now I get paid by the company, and the money is deposited into my checking account: DR CR Receivable from Co $40 Checking$40 And now I pay my credit card bill: DR CR Checking $40 Credit Card $40 Is that correct? I'm doing what seems "intuitive" to my "non-accounting" brain ;-) If not, how should it be handled? It seems like a lot of work/entries to me. Thanks again, -Bruce Christopher Browne wrote: > > On Tue, 30 May 2000 21:00:13 PDT, the world broke into rejoicing as > Bruce and Liz Chaplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > I am presently trying to set up my GnuCash chart of accounts, and > > trying to do a better job of organizing them than Quicken did ;-) > > > > My question...I travel occasionally for business purposes, and any > > expenses that I incur are reimbursed to me by the company. I may > > receive a travel advance, or alternatively I am reimbursed after the > > fact. > > > > What are "business travel advance" and business expense reimbursement" > > classified as? It is a form of "income" to me, in that money is > > deposited into my account. However, it is not _truly_ an income (I did > > not "earn" the money, not does it contribute to my net worth), and the > > expenses are not _true_ expenses (I did not spend any money overall). > > I am afraid that creating an income account (like Business Expense > > Reimbursement), and an expense account (like Business Expenses) will > > end up creating a false record of what my income/expenses actually > > are. > > > > What is the appropriate way of dealing with these forms of expenses? > > What accounts should be created to deal with them? > > My "business expenses" are pretty few and far between, and so I take > the rather simple approach of applying reimbursements to reduce the > expense in the account in which I applied the expense. > > For instance, if I buy computer supplies for office use, I'll expense > the item under "Computer" expenses. When I receive the reimbursement, > I'll treat this as a reversal of the expense. > > If you wanted to track this sort of thing in greater detail, monitoring > month-to-month amounts that the company owes you, I'd suggest setting up > an asset account, "Receivable from Company," and then having the > "not-really-my-expenses" and the "not-really-my-incomes" go against that > Receivable account. > > --> If you get an advance/reimbursement > DR CR > Cash $500 > Receivable from Co $500 > > --> Spent money on dinner on the road > > DR CR > Receivable from Co$40 > Credit Card $40 > > The question here will be whether you normally owe money to the company > (e.g. - they generously pay you advances beforehand), and thus should > treat that "holding account" as a liability, or whether you normally > pay bills, and the company owes it to you, meaning that this "holding > account" is usually going to be an asset. > > Hope this helps... > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html> > So long and thanks for all the fish. > > -- > Gnucash Developer's List > To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Income/Expense Account Question
I am presently trying to set up my GnuCash chart of accounts, and trying to do a better job of organizing them than Quicken did ;-) My question...I travel occasionally for business purposes, and any expenses that I incur are reimbursed to me by the company. I may receive a travel advance, or alternatively I am reimbursed after the fact. What are "business travel advance" and business expense reimbursement" classified as? It is a form of "income" to me, in that money is deposited into my account. However, it is not _truly_ an income (I did not "earn" the money, not does it contribute to my net worth), and the expenses are not _true_ expenses (I did not spend any money overall). I am afraid that creating an income account (like Business Expense Reimbursement), and an expense account (like Business Expenses) will end up creating a false record of what my income/expenses actually are. What is the appropriate way of dealing with these forms of expenses? What accounts should be created to deal with them? Any suggestions welcome. Thanks, -Bruce -- Bruce, Liz and Aidan Chaplin San Diego, CA, USA -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnucash compilation error
Thanks Bryan...that fixed the problem. My g-wrap-install directory had also been created at / (!)...not sure why. After moving it to gnucash/lib/g-wrap-install, things compiled cleanly. Thanks again, -Bruce Bryan Larsen wrote: > > Similar problem to what I'm having. > > The g-wrap-guile you want should be in ./lib/g-wrap-install/bin/ > > for me, the makefile created a directory /g-wrap-install/ off of the root > directory. I just copied the directory where it was supposed to be and then it > worked. > > Bryan > > On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, Bruce andLiz Chaplin wrote: > > Was this problem resolved yet? I downloaded the latest src from CVS > > last night, and I am getting the same problem while trying to compilke > > tonight. I did run ./configure, and it detected no problems. > > > > I am running RH6.0, with Helix-Gnome. > > > > (Note: I poked around a bit in the directories, and found g-wrap-guile > > in > > /usr/local/src/gnucash/lib/g-wrap/guile. It is a scheme script. Not > > sure why it's not being found). > > > > Any help/pointers appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > -Bruce > > > > > > LE NY Yannick wrote: > > > > > > I have downloaded the latest CVS (03-31-2000), > > > I compile it and I have this errror: > > > > > > make[4]: Leaving directory `/projet/gnucash/src/reports' > > > make[4]: Entering directory `/projet/gnucash/src/g-wrap' > > > rm -f *.wrap > > > g-wrap-guile gnc.gwp > > > make[4]: g-wrap-guile: Command not found > > > make[4]: *** [gnome.wrap] Error 127 > > > make[4]: Leaving directory `/projet/gnucash/src/g-wrap' > > > make[3]: *** [gnome] Error 2 > > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/projet/gnucash/src' > > > make[2]: *** [build-flavor] Error 2 > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/projet/gnucash' > > > make[1]: *** [gnome.real] Error 2 > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/projet/gnucash' > > > make: *** [gnome] Error 2 > > > [root@localhost gnucash]# > > > > > > Any ideas to resolve it? > > > Thanks > > > > > > Yannick > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Si votre email etait sur iFrance vous pourriez ecouter ce message au tel ! > > > http://www.ifrance.com : ne laissez plus vos emails loin de vous ... > > > gratuit sur iFrance : emails (20 MO, POP, FAX), Agenda, Site perso > > > > > > -- > > > Gnucash Developer's List > > > To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > Gnucash Developer's List > > To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > - > Bryan Larsen, Senior Software Engineer & fall guy > Analog Design Automation: Analog Circuit Synthesis? Problem Solved. > > -- > Gnucash Developer's List > To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
